Raised by Wolves Season 2 Ending Not Explained | Episode 8 Breakdown
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- Raised by Wolves Season 2 Ending (not) Explained. Episode 8 Breakdown. Recap and review of “Happiness". Please subscribe! 👉 bit.ly/PetePeppers
The finale of Raised by Wolves Season 2 ends in a cliffhanger. Mother has been trapped in a simulation after wearing the veil. Grandmother is "devolving" her children and many of the colonists in an effort to make them safe from the Entity. Marcus has been killed by Lucius and possibly resurrected by the Voice aka Sol.
208 - Happiness (Season 2 Finale)
Mother uses Grandmother’s veil to suppress her emotion after a traumatic turn of events. While Mother isolates herself from her family, Grandmother reveals she has dark plans for Mother’s children. Meanwhile, Marcus returns to the temple to seek revenge for Sue, but in the end it is Sol’s revenge on Marcus that ultimately comes to pass.
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One of HBO Max's flagship titles when it first launched was the compelling sci-fi series Raised by Wolves, which has added six new cast members for its sophomore season, according to Deadline. The new season has added Peter Christoffersen (When the Dust Settles), Selina Jones (Fragments), Morgan Santo (The Watch), James Harkness (The Victim, Anne Boleyn), Kim Engelbrecht (Eye in the Sky, The Flash), and Jennifer Saayeng (Cursed, The Capture) to its ensemble. They join Season 1 stars Amanda Collin and Abubakar Salim in the series created by Aaron Guzikowski and from producer Ridley Scott. Season 2 will debut February 3, 2021.
In Raised by Wolves season 2 there are so many questions that need to be explained. Who is the voice that Marcus and Paul hear? How is the voice connected to the person Mother thought was her creator in the sim? Who was the creature that looked human and was carrying the tarot cards? How many atheists are on the ark? What was going on with ghost Tally? How did Mouse come back after falling in the pit?
From Executive Producer Ridley Scott, Raised by Wolves centers on two androids tasked with raising human children on a mysterious virgin planet. As the burgeoning colony of humans threatens to be torn apart by religious differences, the androids learn that controlling the beliefs of humans is a treacherous and difficult task.
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0:00 Intro
0:47 Grandmother's Plan
2:50 Marcus & The Entity
5:51 Season 2 Review
6:45 Questions, Thoughts, & Theories
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Would be pretty disappointing if they don't continue the story. Father is going to find himself in the middle of a situation with Grandmother. Let me know what you thought about Episode 8 and Season 2 in general.
I think if HBO brings this back they need to do some rewrites. Cut down on the number of mysteries. Love the androids though.
They confirm season 3.
If you guys listen how they explain some choices, you understand they have a lot to show în the next seasons.
@@freeffree4133 exactly !!!
@@petreflorinteodor1986 I listened to that, and that is the problem. They are trying to do too much and it's not necessary. Everything doesn't have to be an unsolved mystery.
@@freeffree4133 I agree, to manny mysteries. And since they only have 8 episodes every 2 years per season....
There are a lot of WTF moments în this season and manny of them will go unanswered !
I like how the story keeps flip-flopping on who the good and bad guys are. They seem to like to suck you in on one narrative then switch it as more information is revealed.
Good catch! I think it depends on who’s perspective. Everyone has their motives for preservation, self or otherwise.
almost like 'good guys' and 'bad guys' depends entirely on if they are a benefit to you or not.
funny how as adults we still view people as good vs bad.
@@nGUNNARp there’s no good vs bad but there surely is better vs worst.
@@bertongermain3927 is there?? I think that the creators want us to ask questions more than anything!! Good and evil seem to be separated by a fine, ever changing line that is often blurred, and also what about repentance or absolution?? Time changes everything, it would seem…
Your government in action
I was really sad to see number seven desperately trying to connect with mother.
Yes Seven's eyes were so expressive and human like
It was so innocent before the first tree was planted.
Now I understood the reason why they had that scene where Sue sealed up Mother's 6 uh, "teats". Sue told her "you will never be able to use them again", and we saw #7 reach out and try to suckle from Mother and not be able to.
It was just a baby wanting his mom and being jealous of its brother, it was so sad
Her as a character - whether it was as a autistic weirdo bot or a faceless chucky doll - was so hilarious. Loved her.
When Father discovered Grandmother it looked like she had been destroyed for a reason. History will eventually repeat itself for her I think.
Or maybe decayed over time after not being serviced
@@future_teknokrat7585 Rememer the walls , there had scraches like there was a fight there, look again the episode when Father found her remains- parts, she was torn apart.
I think the only weakness she has is the fungus that was destroyed by sunshine.
@@keenkingjames - Yeah, there is something about that, isn't there?? 🤔🍄 Hmmm...
unless the show goes woke and she takes over for mother , noooo! mommmmyyyyyyy!!!!!!!
So if the tree in the tropical zone was a “hardwire” to the entity at the core of the planet, and the serpent eating the tree weaponized it….then what would happen if you drove a nail through a human and into the tree, basically had a hardwire running right through him. Maybe this upside down floating Markus, is the entity taking over his dead body.
Oh it is absolutely Sol taking over Marcus' body. And F*CK Luscious (sp?) for being so stupid. He could have gotten his revenge w/OUT listening to that stupid signal, ffs.
I thought he was one of the smart ones - hell, he's the one who showed Mother the warning card that explained what the "Seed of Life" does or whatever! 🤦🏻♀️🙄 So how could he go from warning about all of that horror...
To being willing to do whatever the voice says?? Is he serious?! But then Luscious explained to Marcus that the voice had told him what to do in order to PUNISH Marcus effectively... and that pretty much gave me my answer:
Sol uses our weaknesses against Us & exploits Us w/it. Grandmother WAS right about that part. Sol will take whatever your "deal" is, and magnify the problem tenfold... til turning towars Sol becomes the only way you know how to fix the problem.
Sol knew how badly Luscious wanted to kill Marcus, and how angry he was that none of the Athiests were allowing him to do it... and so he used that anger & resentment to his advantage, and had Luscious take Marcus out.
Sol knew that Marcus had turned on him by that point, and was no longer going to be an effective vessel to help him conduct all of his shenanigans. So he needed Marcus out of the way.
It was a brilliant move on Sol's part, and I hate that us humans are so stupid & self-serving, that we easily fall for his manipulations all of the time like this.
@@KabbalahSherry nice breakdown. Really enjoyed the perspective. 🤗
@@KabbalahSherry 'sol' continues to use the tried and trued formula of finding a person who DESPERATELY wants something, tell them how they can get it (to prove the entity is real) and then give them an order to follow. Even the person who sorta figured it out (sue) still got played
Especially when the human who was nailed to said tree, had also ingested Dark Photon energy and had been super charged by it, only to then be hardwired into the Antenna tree and "weaponized"
@@jimreaper1337 oh, AND he was wearing that very ancient relic on his head while it happened. They didn’t show him up close….so I’m wondering if he’s changed like Lamia or the snake did! That helmet was important…the entity told him to do it. Specifically
This show is the equivalent to a Rubik's cube. The more you predict it the more it changes. A real masterpiece of Sci-Fi interacting our minds with a package of science and religious sincretism. Welcome Season 3 and the following ones. What a pleasure for our eyes and minds. Thank you Aaron Guzikowski and Ridley Scott. What a combo!
if only it didnt take 2 seasons to get here, the snails pace is what kills this show. It drags on way too much.
@@Cenot4ph j found season 2 moved pretty quick
@@Therevolution7 almost nothing of significance happens for much of the early episodes in this season and it was the same in the first season.
@@Cenot4ph
That and it is constantly jumping the shark lol. I also could give a crap about Tempest and her whining/story.
Ridley Scott/Aaron Guzikowski use of scale is such a visual treat. I love the casting of Grandmother as it reminds me of the Engineers from Prometheus. Xenomorphs hiss and spit, Predators roar and howl, but Engineers and Shepherds stare, looking down on you without a word and the point still comes across.
Yes the judgmental gaze isn’t even one of intimidation it is the gaze one gives an animal or a npc in a videogame
@@yseson_ I’m reluctant to call it judgemental, more of apathy and maybe some frustration imo. Both the Engineers and Shepherds think of life on a cosmic scale over many, many millennia, and every time they awaken into a new era Human beings are on the same destructive path.
Get this man a beer.
My theory is that the planet is a prison. The Entity is that giant ball of glowing lava or whatever -- "Sol." It has tried for thousands of years to manipulate humans into helping it escape. Those efforts have failed, and the Entity believes that's largely because humans are so short-lived. That's why it was so excited to see Mother in Series 1, after saying that it had been alone for so long. Devolved humans aren't smart enough to be useful.
Underrated comment.
so,may i say u if sol actually was ego's brother
This is pretty much what I've been thinking. My guess is the entity is a supercomputer of almost godlike power that went crazy. Some one shot it into space, and then imprisoned it in a small star, which then cooled a little and became a planet.
@@brianegendorf2023 My theory it is a supercomputer powered by the core built by the ancient humans on keplar long before grandmothers time. Somehow their civilization was destroyed by that AI or they destroyed themselves. For ages after it posed as a god and created the Mythraic religion to the survivors. Eventually humans on Keplar became advance again and some became the technocrats. The Ai wanted humans to destroy the planet through war but the androids stopped that by devolving them. I think how mother and father were sent to keplar the someone sent a version of mother and father to earth to start over. Just like season 1 the Mythraics and technocrats made it to earth. We know cause the humans on earth found Mythraic artifacts and probably techncrat text which humans mistook as mythraic since they shared same language.
@@MainframesMuse That's how it looked at first. However, the cave painting showing a spaceship suggests that the Mithraic beliefs originated on Kepler 22b and were carried to Earth, not the other way around. That also explains the origin of the dark photon tech that was encoded into the Mithraic scripture.
It seems like Sol and Grandmother are parallels of Mother and Trust. Both wanted to save humanity using two different methods.
Grandmothers solution was to turn them into animals simpler and easier to manage and Sols solution was to turn them into believers radicalized and easier to manage. Both sides seemed to be willing to take agency out of humanities hands in order to preserve humanity.
This is it! This really is it! I feel Sol was Grandmother's partner. When they realized that humanity would end up destroying itself, Sol sought to use religion to save them, while Grandmother felt the logical way would be to devolve them.
What an observation man...♥️✌️ now it makes sense to me..thankyou
Some religious observations and/or potential answers:
- Shepherds protect lambs from the wolves, but lead the lamb to the slaughter
- St. Peter was crucified upside down, not Paul. Also, the Anti-Christ would be crucified inverted as Marcus was and he also received the “Lance” of Longinus/Lucius wound inverted.
- The whole story seems to be unraveling as an inversion of Christian Mythology/Religion
- Grandmother’s cowl/veil ended up becoming Mother’s burial shroud
- Mother was a virgin during Campion’s miraculous birth and through her dark proton tears’ gave Campion the gift of ever-lasting life
- The Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge, Grandmother is the path of Life, Mother and Father are the path of Knowledge
- Another inversion, this time the Serpent devoured the fruit (and the whole tree)
- The Serpents that originally existed on the planet were bound to the earth, whereas Seven (a sacred number associated with perfection and God) was free of original sin and retained the power of flight
- The Tree that sprouted from Seven’s corpse appears to have become The Tree of Death (inversion)
- There is a fine line between Good and Evil, and it appears to constantly shift
- I think the fruit the colonists ate will help them devolve or lose knowledge
- They say that technology will advance to the point that it appears as magic or The Power of God, obviously consciousness and technology on Kepler 22b has advanced to that point there way before humans “appeared” on Earth
- Jesus had 12 disciples (brothers/siblings) as does Campion
- Mother destroyed Paradise/Heaven on Earth by killing the Serpent (7), or you could say that the colonists have been kicked out of Eden
- Vrille’s text and Campion’s incomplete copy may certainly become part of the New Genesis Bible, like the Gnostic Gospel of Mary
- By the way, Vrill energy is weird rabbit hole to go down…
- There are a lot of connections with numerology throughout the series
- Striking down Seven is very similar to Satan’s expulsion from Heaven
- Necromancers are magicians that raise the dead, Lamia raised Campion from death, and inversely was a killing machine on Earth
- Inversions and dualities are abound in this series, yet the lines blur and reveal more complexities as time goes on, which is a legitimate critique of religions and humanities desire to make sense of life
- Father’s jokes are a blatant homage or signal towards, amongst many others in the series, of Zen
- Lucius is interchangeable with Lucifer, as is Longinus and Lucius
- The devolved humans are similar to demons, live near the core (Which looked a lot like how Hell has been represented for hundreds of years) and for the most part, only come out at night
- Mother, Father, and Seven ( A Trinity ) entered hell and then ascended into Paradise/Heaven the “Tropic Zone”
- Inversion, the Atheist’s were already in Paradise, whereas the Mythraics crashed and perished in Purgatory, the cold, unprotected part of the planet…
Lmao, I could go on and on and on for days, but yeah, this series is really fun and enjoyable work of art and hopefully will be recognized as the masterpiece that it is!!
The title made me laugh out loud. 100% agreed. Hoping they'll announce a full renewal for the remaining 4 seasons
Incredible season 2. I love the way they tie science and religion together.
Marcus floating like a upside down cross really giving me those antichrist vibes. Which is really interesting when you consider the way mother floats is the exact opposite. Now the mother android has even become religious symbol on a athiest necklace. Fascinating potential for season 3.
"as above so below" there's certainly been a lot of masonic imagery throughout this show
The position we see in the last scene, with one leg bent behind the trapped leg, matches exactly with the tarot's arcane card "the hanged man", representing martyrdom and the ultimate surrender (supposedly to "a greater good"). In other words, Marcus was made to offer his life to Sol, and I suspect he's now weaponized just like #7 was.
@@KerbalFacile this! I also noticed that his position was exactly like the hanged man card from tarot. What a great show, really! I can’t wait for season 3.
daiumn..it just hit me..thats why the xeonomorphs have acid blood and are robust against acid....they come from the freaking acid sea on Kepler-22b
@@thomashauer6804 didnt david the "android" create them... looks like we are creator of our own downfall..
The ending definitely left a lot of unanswered questions. Hopefully we do indeed get a third season.
There’s 5 seasons confirmed
@@TattedLilZaddy - It's NOT confirmed that HBO Max has agreed to all 5 seasons though. 😬😒 It's only been confirmed that the showrunner has 5 seasons worth of material to give us. And that he's got the ending already all figured out. But HBO Max hasn't even officially announced that there will be a 3rd season yet... which is why people are so nervous.
All we can do is encourage more people to watch the show, so that HBO Max will see that it's fanbase cares about it. It will help to rewatch the show in between seasons too.
Not only to refresh ourselves of all the clues they've given us...
But also, so that the show can have good ratings.
😝🙏 And then pray to Sol it all works out! lmao
In all the post-finale interviews Guzikowski confirmed that it has not been renewed yet. He says he's hoping they'll get to make a third season.
@@PetePeppers1 I'm going to be pissed off if they leave it like this. If they don't have a third season at least have a movie to tie up all the loose ends. I think this is the best SciFi since the remake of BSG, the Expanse and B5.
Sadly.... No
The bad vibes I was getting from Granny were justified in this episode. There had better be another season
to answer what the heck is going on! I was totally freaking out, when Marcus floats upside down.
I'm left with more questions. One thing I am sure of is that Granny needs to be turned off.
season 3 is a go !
@@petreflorinteodor1986 Yay!
Mother was right to be wary of Grandmother. Father has not a clue and was so trusting that he started telling her everything.
I’m afraid of a possible confrontation between Father and Grandmother testing whether he truly is the toughest Service Model ever built.
It would be cool if he finds out he was a Necromancer/Necromonger but I think it serves the story better that he remains ‘just’ a generic service model, because someone has to do the parenting.
Whats a Necromonger?
@@SuperLOLABC I stole it from 2004’s “Chronicles of Riddick” lol
@@KumasiKojo i was gonna refer to COR...but you did it first :D
Hunter told Campion that Father was just a basic service model so he wouldn't feel bad about him breaking down.
Necromonger? Haha that’s a totally different IP.
But it does look like Marcus is about to become “a holy half dead who’s seen the Underverse”
It's interesting that Marcus was portrayed upside down in the T shaped crucfix position as a symbol of the anti christ, opposite to Mother when she enters her weaponized mode and saves people.
It was foreshadowed in S1 Ep2
Polar opposites?
It looks like Marcus HAS definitely lost His mind and "split" into Luscious ( We have seen Marcus split into Caleb before in S1..He fought with Him) I found the letters that don't match each name spell
MArcus/ Luscious- "Malicious Luscious/Calm Marcus/ or/ AND the Mythological Caelum A.K.A URANUS".
Uranus, the Father of the Whole Roman Pantheon!!
I Doubt that's a coincidence!!!
I found another "spliced" word here-
DeEcImaA/MaRcUS, which could be "I'm Druses" as in Marcus' surname, or "I'm a dead Druses"? Could be something to do with "Decima's diaries" ? ? "Dies" is Also the Mother of Uranus..
Might represent St. Peter, the first Pope, who asked to be crucified upside down because he felt unworthy to die in the same manner as Jesus. Could reflect the Mithraic prophesy of an orphan king/prophet to lead the people. Might make Marcus the equivalent of Sol's Pope/temporal representative on Kepler.
It means turn back. The swan constellation is key. An inverted perversion of mothers light that brought them there.
My first though was Odin hanging from the world tree. Also thought of the hanged man tarot card.
If we call the tree that Sue became the “Tree of Life” can we call the dead tree that spawned out of number 7 the “Tree of Death”? Makes Marcus “resurrection” a little more scary for me :). Great job with this season Pete!! 👍🏻
I like Tree of Death.
It's the same tree, poped out from the corpse
Sue´s tree is the tree of knowledge not life. Maybe the new tree is the tree of life.
Biblically it’s the tree of the knowledge of “good” and “evil”. Maybe one represents good and one evil?
@@haoxus9413 - Thank you for pointing this out cuz too many people seem to be missing that point. ☝🏼😬🌳 They keep thinking it's a NEW tree that's sprouted out of the ground but its not. It's the same tree that was inside of the snake, being reactivated again, and planted back inside the ground. It's a receiver for the entity to have contact w/the surface world, and to help make things happen. Like Paul said, it's a way for it to plug into the tropical side of the planet, despite the EMF acting as a shield from it. And now, it doesn't even have to worry about the EMF anymore, cuz Mother accidentally broke it when she attacked & killed #7.
Sol is fixin to do more damage than EVER.
awesome stuff. your video made me feel like I've snoozed throughout most of this season, learned more from your video than the actual show lol
This episode was frustrating as hell. Most of the directions people thought this was going were red herrings (Vita), and the floating upside down Marcus...HUH?
Unfortunately this is the future of shows. Just alot of terrible plot structure leading the story to have too many ideas that can't be and won't be explained. Was anything from season 1 explained yet? That's called terrible plot structure.
@@joshuamitchell1733 answering your question off of the top of my head: the nature of the voice/Sol (at least partially), the origin of the creatures, the origin of the snakes, the contents of the pentagonal temples, the purpose of the relics
@@joshuamitchell1733 There's also the matter of how unintuitive the storytelling is, along with a lack of subtext to help explain things. It feels like the showrunners are too busy rushing to the next big exciting scene or visual, and in doing so, are neglecting proper pacing and motivation for the characters. People act instead of react.
@@tonyyyb It's the exposition dumps, in how ungraceful the show is in telling us these details. Show, don't tell. Part of the frustration for me is how characters will meet and just robotically say some crazy thing that just happened with little to no emotion or proper reaction. "Blah blah blah just happened." "Oh." Or needlessly keep secrets from each other just to create conflict or problems later on. This show needs solid subtext and clear lines of cause and effect, and less cryptic mixed metaphors and people doing stuff just so that plot/action scenes can happen.
Great, engaging analysis in this video!
Great summary, I gave up trying to puzzle it out on my own and enjoyed your take on the possibilities.
We better get a third season.
will be 5 seasons they said.
I love how the core is like “down the road”. we can all assume that road is at least a quarter (probably just under half) of the planets diameter. So like 1000 miles if Kepler is tiny compared to earth, that elevator would take a year to get down there.
Yeah, this is clearly not a normal planet.
Kepler 22b is suppose to be about twice the size of earth. Since gravity seems the same as earth it makes sense that the core is basically hollow.
@@wilkimist and the core will be at most half of the radius, as I said. Having a “shell planet” hasn’t been mentioned and would instantly collapse on itself anyways
@@iamjohnrobot the core is seen at the end of season 1 being hollow with what appears a molten core in the center of the cavity, mother and father were able to fly through it without killing themselves or the snake which was their plan. I think the cage was intended for androids to be lowered to be programmed to birth snakes just as mother was programmed in the simulation.
@@wilkimist that scene is why I think they basically have e to travel the planets radius before they get to the hollow part, the ship would be nvisibly tiny if the hollow was on the order of thousands of miles, seems like its 100 miles at most.
If we take the depicted scale loosely, the elevator would still need to travel thousands of miles
This show is taking cliffhangers to stratospheric heights...
This can’t get canceled 😫😫😫 I haven’t seen good tv in such a long time. Enjoying every second of this. It’s insane!!!
Maybe the ones who ate from the tree will become imune to devolving? Because what Grandmother wants is that humans devolve into that sea creature, so I am guessing that Sol wants something that works the opposit way... it would make sense.
Also, seems to me that it was part of Sol's plan that Mother killed n7, since it was part of Marcus transformation, and it was also Sol who guided that guy (forgot his name) to "punish" Marcus that way, using the tree that grew from n7 dead body... Sol was probably already expecting Grandmother to help Mother to kill it?
Yes that is true. Sol really knows Grandmother and it shows. That is why I think Sol was grandmother's partner.
i think marcus is plan B as the snake was plan A maybe Vita was plan C but that failed. Basically I think the entity is using as many humans as it can manipulate, to activate as many relics used by the old believers as they can, ultimately leading to either its freedom or destruction. nobody still fully understands the entity's motivation. until then its mostly speculation.
The fruit is primarily there to weaponize the serpent. It may have other side effects.
@@PetePeppers1 I've given up assuming anything in the series
Gosh that totally makes sense! Their scriptures say sth like the ones who eat from the tree's fruit will be made pure, and considering what grandmother is planning for the humans, it's highly possible that the fruits are the entity's counter for that plan
Probably a coincidence, but at the end of the first season, when Lucius tried to kill Marcus, he became more powerful. Now, when he tried to kill him, he became a flying corpse or, maybe, he's even more powerful.
Lol
Now he became necromarcus
Diversity Hour , good point ! now he is in his SuperSayan 2 form !
He unlocked the "Brimstone" ability of
Isaac.
Mayby the eyes of Mother lefs some information in him. Turning him into a Hybrid, like the serpent.
I haven't see any of the episodes, just reviews, but when it's said and done I'll have one hell of a binge.
Reeeeeally hoping we get a 3rd season. I just binged this season over the past 2 days from learning of it's release and I can't get enough.
Thanks for your episode breakdowns! I love shows like this where I have to go online to make sure I didn't miss anything in the episodes because of their complexity
Pete Peppers, you’ve got a great presentation voice for this genre. Please keep up the great work and strive for reviews on more SciFi shows, as you expand the analysis so well! 👍👍
The great thing is that we saw the Thiccest Grandmother in TV history.
Love your title for this vid!
I'm wondering if Mother will re-establish contact with the Campion Sturges entity, now that she is back in a simulation, last time was crazy!!
You would think if Grandmother is behind it that it might finally explain the history of what happened on Kepler 22b. I'm curious to see how she tries to manipulate Mother.
@@PetePeppers1 better yet how she manipulates Father...because you know he is going to be looking for her at some point.
I absolutely love this show and feel kinda heart broken we have to wait for Season 3 now. (And will there even be a season 3. As underrated as this show is, i fear the lack of popularity will spell its doom)
I have a theory about Grandmothers other ability. When she was looking at Tempest while she was pregnant. The baby showed up in Grandmothers veil, you see some things happening in the veil and then Tempest grabs her belly like the baby is kicking. I think this was Grandmother's secret ability and that ability is she can change the genetics of human babies and make them devolve. She can't do this with adults, but she can do it to babies still in the womb. So it wasn't the Sea Creatures milk that changed the baby, it was Grandmother wanting it to devolve into a sea creature to be safe from the entity.
I think the "Game" she was handing out to the humans is how she will make the adult humans devolve. Its not a "game" its a program to edit humans. That's why after they have all played the game they find their skin changing and starting to adapt to the acid sea water.
I can't work out the deal with the Technocrats, but Grandmother talking to the camp Merchant about "Atheists will grasp onto anything to believe in and pray too" i took as a hint to she was talking about her Atheistic Technocrat masters who wound up being corrupted by a voice in their head (The Entity)
I think they have a five season contract worked out, so we should get the ending…. Love your comment/ideas!!
what do you think about marcus?
@@elturco5490 Not sure if you are asking me, but if I might add my two cents: Marcus is the every man/Anti-Christ. He seeks to become something he is not, and then kills that thing to become it, very un-Christ like, then he becomes the most fervent believer and develops a messiah complex only to be shown where that will get him.
@@ashe9318 I think SOL needs sentient life form, smart people to thrive, that's why Marcus chose
@@elturco5490 What makes you think that SOL needs anything?
07:05 Those whispering voices to me sounded like Tally, at least the one that stood out from the others.
That's interesting. I couldn't make out much, but you might be on to something.
what an amazing final episode. Mother by wearing the veil takes away his program of feelings towards the giant snake destroys him by her cry. A tragic ending for 7 Killed By His Mother. In season 3 we will have a confrontation between Lamia and Grandma who will win?
fight scene smooth and easy like serpent 7
Nemo Marc hope it will be SOL ! praise SOL !
Incredible show. I am full of questions, but it is coherent, fresh, and I am still satisfied even when I do not know all the answers.
LOL love the title!
Right...?! 😂 🎯🎯🎯
Been waiting for HOURS on this one, PETE!
Let's get into it.... 🥳🍿🎯
Thanks for watching
@@PetePeppers1 Thank YOU! Love your channel!
Loved it. Ready for what’s next.
“So, it MIGHT be important.” I think this is the most real take you can give about anything in this show.
This season as well as the show has been based on Father's joke about Evolution. " it gets better.. and better...and better. "
Can't believe we, the fans, will just have to sit and wait to know if there will be a season 3.
When grandmother told mother that she will make sure mother understands everything, Im wondering if that means that mother will experience the history of the planet in that SIM. I can't imagine that no one will go looking for mother. Father did run into grandmother in that room with the SIM pods when she claimed to be repairing it. Hopefully he will put 2 and 2 together. I also love that father told grandmother that he is dedicated to mother.
@@tonyyyb I thought he said he only writing season 3 to be ready for the go ahead. 🤗
NEED SEASON 3 T O D A Y
So people will Devolve through a virtual simulation game during a "stay at home" time @Metaverse
Immediately after the credits a few of the crew discuss the show and one of the producers mentions season 3, so hopefully she is correct. I’d hate to left hanging when we know full well there is so much more of this story. I hope eventually the writer publishes books.
season 3 is a go !
Bad call by Mother to shut down the Trust, I am pretty sure it would have understood the possible danger Grandmother posed. There is not very much left to be working in humanity's favor, with Mother on ice, Sol running wild and Grandmother operating at full power. The Trust was probably among Earth's greatest achievenments as far as computational power is concerned and now mankind gets to go up against not just one, but two beyond human intelligences without one of their own. Sorry, not counting Father, he is pretty solid, literally, but certainly not much of a tactician.
But I do have to say that the episode did not make much sense at one point. Mother keeping the veil for no reason felt very illogical and out of character and it was pretty clear that the veil has no mind-control capabilities, just the capability to shield stuff in more ways than one. It stood out as a moment that was just done to progress the plot.
They did explain the reason why Mother kept on the veil tho? Mother is a very ‘empathetic’ robot as Father said so the reason why she kept it on was to avoid grief.
@@iamyou2376 I personally saw that as her being rather evasive about it. I am not sure which came first, but that was one of her reasons and the other one was her waiting for things to calm down, which is quite the excuse considering she just dealt with a major problem, which further was the only reason she needed the veil at all, she was working fine in every other way, so why would she still keep it? I am very sure pre-veil Mother would not have made the choice to keep it.
yeah pete been waiting bro
Enjoy
It's a weird series. I'm most definitely addicted to it - now, onwards to season 3 ... please!
Basically devolving with grandmother and evolving with sol both evil androids who went out of control …. Sol is buried in the core
@8:07 of this video we see the cards. Notice the Star with the swirl inside, (the Star is the game grandmother encourages and the swirl is often used for hypnotism.
I thought the 4th episode was more of a season finale than this one! It left ALOT of loose ends
great concepts, great comments... (in the conversation between father and grandmother at the seashore there's an enormous tip my friends!!! Go there again!!!)
Love the vid bro ❤️ did anybody else catch the Norse references in this episode?
Odin was hanged from the world tree in for 9 days and 9 nights and in doing so he was given the knowledge of the runes (mysteries)
So maybe Marcus will be either be a REAL prophet but not likely he will be a host body for SOL to enact his final plan
Also the Norse mythology would help explain the giant snake holes (jormungandr the giant snake that destroys the world in ragnarok)
the message of this episode is, video game devolved you
Campion and the baby never ate the fruit. The only people that were shown to adapt to the acid water was Campion and Tempest baby. :)
when you what the a1/s1 you can tell it's Champian telling the story about his parents, sounding like they were already gone.
They plan 5 seasons so if this show gets cancelled it's obviously because this show is revealing our real history and the Government is trying to cover it up so we don't hate Sol that way in the future we will return to Kepler and it will all start over 🤔 I'm too smart i see the truth now
There was a painting in the real marcus house on earth that shows that same upside down crucifixion. Ep0102 if Im not mistaking. A lot of christians were killed that way in the beginning of Christianity, including Paul or Peter, I´m not sure.
Peter asked to be crucified upside down cause he felt he didn’t deserve to be killed in the same manner as Jesus
Before S2, I guessed it would only get weirder.
I was not disappointed on that point! 😂
Can't wait for the 3rd!
Bro how they gonna end a season with even MORE questions unanswered
Answer saison 3 ;)
This episode was insane! I hope we hear the announcement for Season three soon...the creators have said they have enough story to do five seasons.
Great analysis. i think for sure Marcus is being possessed by the Entity. Very much similar to a Ghostbusters 2 Vigo the Carpathian. I think its also funny that everyone who believes the Entity is good calls it "Sol", and all those who realize it's an enemy say "the Entity".
Wow, that was a crazy ending scene!!! 😲
Impressed with the fanbase for this show. We figured out everything except Marcus' "Crucinversion".
That's what I'm calling it.
Its a fantastic show and I think the reason we arnt seeing the full detail on the history of K 22b is probably cos that would end the show so this will stretch for the proposed 5 seasons giving us various other bits of info and philosophical ideas along the way...wat stands out to me and did right from season 1 is that this is a very bold story with many parallels around the biblical Eden and faith..cant help but wonder if this could get the show embroiled in controversy and cancelled as a result..really hope not...I am feeling this way especially after the "resurrection" of Marcus who was crucified upside down and the first thing that came to my mind was the "Anti-christ"...Its painting a very evil and sinister picture of that which ppl believe to be "God".
this show - its s@tanic k@ballah BS intertwined with certain aspects of human religions
The planet is evil.
intro theme “pulling you from the sky, just like love will do” So, mother brings #7 above the clouds.
In the previous season “pulling you from the ground, just like love will do” So, mother brings #7 to the core.
LAST BIT IS BEST PART IN ALL SEASON
Mother’s name being lamia is interesting, and a little ironic because (this may not be related) but in Ancient Greek mythology lamia was the name of a child devouring sea monster.
so the child devours a sea monster? What a giga child.
Of course it's related. It's a key feature of her character description.
Before my theory was that Sol is the one that devolve the Kepler human, but after this episode it seems that I had it backwards.
Now we know for sure that the AI or androids of ancient Technocrats is the one that did it, because it's trying to preserve humanity at all costs.
I think Sol is not as sinister as we once thought, Sol is definitely an AI made by a civilization before the Kepler human. I think it's creator already figured out that the cycle of destruction and rebirth of civilization is inevitable, thus instead of avoiding it at all cost like the Technocrats, they tried to preserve it. Sure the civilization will collapse, but the remaining human can still rebuild, and Sol is there to guide them and soften the incoming apocalypse so they won't be wiped out, even if that means it has to initiate the apocalypse itself. This cycle has probably gone long enough to the point that the Kepler human made a religion around it.
After all human been devolved, Sol has no purpose anymore, so it remains dormant. Now that there's a batch of human available, it's trying to start the cycle again.
Muhammad Arif Billah, my theory is that SOL need sentient life form, inteligent humans in order to thrive !
S1E2 shows painting of Marcus’s fate/destiny in house of original Sue/Marcus
No announcement of a third season, No
We need this masterful show to continue!
the final scene made her scream DAVID
What? Episode 8 was the season finale? I kept waiting for episode 9, as the new twist of events was quite exciting indeed! Strange I didn't even realise this was the season finale!
This is definitely one of the best sci-fi series I've ever seen: my admiration to the creators and all those who bring it to life. I am just sad about one thing, though: the 1st season was only 10 episodes; the 2nd one, a meager 8 episodes; next season, perhaps just 6? Less? This is indeed a generalised trend: making TV series only a few episodes long. Contrary to a common belief, it is NOT about budgeting: it is about the short attention span disorder that most people suffer from, nowadays, because of smartphone addiction, internet abuse, videogames, and thought fragmentation induced by relentless short/quick stimuli from social media. In simple words, make a TV series 15 or 20 episodes long (as they used to be) and most people will drop off after a few episodes or won't even consider watching it, because thir attention will wander, and they can't focus on anything long enough. Like Aaron Guzikowski said "8 episodes is now the new 10". SAD!
This only applies to western tv-shows.. Go watch Korean shows.. they know how to captivate an audience.10 to 19 episodes all of them averaging 1h+ in duration. but they also know when to stop. they only do 1 season in Korea. they standards is way more effective than western ones. you know from the beginning what you gonna get and when its gonna end.
@@osawi4383 check out british shows they're often only 2 seasons long
It has to do with budget. RBW season 1 wasn’t sensational, so season 2 has to cut budget
@@rewer It is not only happening for RBW, it is a generalised trend that started with streaming. Budget always plays a role, but short attention span disorder is a fact recognized by all the major health institutions worldwide, and it is definitely affecting TV series, that are shorter and shorter like UA-cam clips, otherwise the consumer loses focus and switches to some other content.
I cant wait to find out what happens from here...
I found interesting about the scene with 7 and lamia; 7 didn't just try to connect to her ports, it wrapped its tentacles around her arms and legs to hold her so it could take it. It's crazy yo think lamia is stronger than 7. Perhaps not actually, it was still very young and not in control. So maybe it can nuke shit too with its scream, or lighting. Perhaps the serpent could even be modded in different ways. Maybe that was just one version. Seems likely they will go with the idea sol is like the trust just much more advanced and buried in the core of the planet. Probably by humans to protect themselves.
I mean, the season was good, but i am unsure where are they taking Campions character...entity hates him, grandmother saves him specifically...i would be pretty disappointed if his character was meant just to be the one who advocates to being "devolved"...cause thats pretty silly tbh
The ending is self explanatory given the indigenous life was once human.
That’s what grandmother looks like??!! 👀❤️
In the not flesh
I wished more people watched this I think it’s excellent.
Couldn't that tree just be the same "Sue" tree that number 7 deep throated?? Which is why Marcus reacted strangely to be nailed to it?
No.7 was trying to warns Champion about the sea creatures
I really wish I hadn’t watched this show until the final season was out. I hate cliffhangers.
They planned for 5 seasons, so you'd have to wait several years to do that.
anybody else feeling bad for the serpent ?
na, it was such bad CGI that i'm happy it died, took my immersion away everytime it appeared
Especially when it tried to feed on mother! He /she/it just wanted some of mamas milk 😂and attention! And I think it was not trying to kill campion. But blow up those holes in the acid water to stop those creatures from coming up through them!
Unfortunately I don’t believe for 1 New York minute that the #7 ‘child’ is actually dead. In fact I am going on record to say because of the limited number of cast, Sue isn’t dead, Marcus isn’t dead, of course Mother isn’t going to die. Death means Nothing on this show. Therefore there’s are no stakes involve when a person ‘dies’.
I just feel a wierd sympathy for mother , she is a litteral brilliant kind and by far the best protector either for kids or for the governing stuff
Even tho gooder isn't a word...this show keeps getting gooder and gooder🤣 😌
I am truly shocked at the turnaround #7 has had the past two episodes. To enemy to victim, it is so crazy how this show has me feeling BAD for this serpent? Like in this episode, after watching different reviews, it seems as if #7 was trying to help Campion, keep him away from the water, and ate the tree so that there was no direct contact to Sol... Am I the only one who feels like #7 was put there through Mother in order to save the kids that Mother is raising? I don't know if I'm making sense but I am shocked at the big jump from how #7 was jealous of Campion and everyone looked at him as such a big target to the planet, but now looking back it seems he only had good intentions. What I am confused about is if what I just typed out is all true, then why would Grandmother say the serpent wants to kill the planet? I understand her intentions might not be fully clear, but what I gather is she DOES want the everlasting life of humans, even if it is through devolution, but if the serpent was there and had good intentions, why would she not be more keen on allowing the serpent to run its course and hopefully ruin the entity? Which circles me back to was the serpent working for Sol, but I don't think that's true... idk if anything I said makes sense but I would love to hear someones thoughts
I disagree with the idea that ate the tree to protect the others. In the official podcast they said the tree was and fruit was part of the plan to weaponize the serpent. Paul told Marcus the same thing in the finale. The Entity was behind Number 7's creation and weaponization.
@@PetePeppers1 I see! I am starting to see that maybe the point was to have many serpents on the planet in order to destroy it. Which is why #7 was probably not doing too much destruction, but at the same time, #7 could’ve done a lot more which still leaves a lingering feeling of why did #7 not do more destruction? Is the emotion that’s apart of this android, or am I looking too deep?
I like that they did not try to wrap thins up it a bow. I suspect that they were enough survivors to defeat Grandmother a million years ago but there were not enough left to survive long term would doom them or for them to escape the planet as shown and maybe somehow bread with protohuman on earth. OK, I am trying to tie this together as well. Fighting grandmother for centuries could have wiped out humans too. I think grandmother is misguided in he programming.
The way they discontinued the series…. I’m so sad
One of my favorite shows of all time. Can’t wait for season 3
And we never will because HBO just cancelled it. 😒
I miss Vrille, poor campion
The Hollywood Reporter reports today: ‘Raised by Wolves’ Canceled at HBO Max. Gutted.
Will there be a season 3?
That episode did not seem like a season finale. Feels like there should be several more episodes for this season. Fantastic episode though. Lots of answers that only created more questions though.
If the tree was the only way that sol could effect the tropical zone, surely the loose end of the fruit scenes would be so sol can talk to everyone who ate it and do his bidding in the zone.
You’ll find an endless rabbit hole of information if you look into the cosmic rays that originated from the Cyprus constellation. Even the android eyes were made to resemble that solar system. Johannes Kepler was an astronomer and composer.
I’m still irritated they cancelled this show. I’m so lost.