We used to mod amps to do this in the mid 90s at Black Market Music in LA. Lots of these are out there cheap - and with some knowledge and tweaking you can get past the unusual tones that they typically put out. A good basic platform for a lot of ideas.
That valve set up should pump out 50w with perhaps some chassis mods. 2 prong!!?? Beware the bare feet on concrete floor! We all learned that one back in the day 😳😳😳⚡⚡⚡ Outstanding presentation thanks!
I have one of those, I bought it right by where John Lee Hooker was playing in Blues Brothers movie. 30 years ago. Sounded great but blew it out after a few days and have not yet had it repaired. (projector still working.)
Back in the 70s, we didn't have pedals and relied on the combination of our guitar, amp and speakers to get the right sound. I made a tube amp with two preamps channels, one channel was modelled off of a Fender twin reverb and the other channel was modelled off of a Marshall amp. They fed four 6L6GC tubes for 100 Watts output. We used to play with the 6L6GC tube bias to get that sweet distortion. We found that setting the bias so the output tubes just started to glow red worked the best. We also played a lot with the presence circuit which introduced a feedback loop from the output transformer back into the preamps. I was a bass player at the time and traded the head for a Peavey 140 Watt transistor head. I build a custom set of ported speaker cabinets with a JBL 140 15 inch speaker in each. I had a 1960 Fender Precision at the time with flatwound Rotosound strings. Alas, everything is long gone.
@@spoookytooth ABSO'!! There certainly were pedals in the 70's!! Yet of course not like there are pedals NOW.. The only diff' NOW, is that, like with everything else electronic.. advancements in technology have shined upon Guitar equipment.. offering more brands & a Zillion' & 3 pedal choices.. *To the best of My knowledge, the 1st commercial "standalone effect" ever manufactured, was in the late 1940's.. a tremolo unit by DeArmond.
Growing up, playing in my backyard, on Bogen amps, old twins... And just growing into my future. I'll be 69 this year. And I'm not stopping for a damned thing!! If you're going to blaze. Give that shit all you've got!
@@NoWayOut55 MY MAN!! You GO My Brother of the "Guitar World"!! Myself, I'm pushin' 60 and My hands are gettin' so damn arthritic that It's takin' away My dexterity, speed & accuracy.. 3 MAIN INGREDIENTS of playin'!!😔 And yeah, My Dr.''s worked with Me to help Me get some relief.. BUT.. I AIN'T GIVIN' UP.. 🎸Has saved My Life.. several times!! So to hear that You Sir, can still rip It up.. I'm glad for Ya'.. Keep on jammin'!!🎸
I had a stereo Robert's Reel to Reel that I used as guitar pre Good Stuff there Oh , and I grew up in a Electronics repair shop in the 70s in Elmhurst Queens Sa2 many great items pass thru Dad's shop
I lived at 111th st 43rd ave Corona from age 6 to 10. Remember school science room was full of great stuff that got me into electronics. 1st thing the teacher taught us was how a hand cranked Generator produced current. Fsntastic times in 1970s Queens.
Welllll'.. I was hopin' I could "borrow" It from Him.. juuuust'.. for a cup'la days.. mmm'maybe a week the most.. Ya' know.. I'd even bring It back in "better shape" than It was before I borrowed It!! Thaaat's a bit better than keepin' It safe!!🤣
That is a killer tone. Pretty transparent overdrive, nice and even across the frequencies even without the compressor. Slap a Sennheiser MD421 on it with that SM57 and you have a great recording amp.
Great tone! Very reminiscent of Malcom Young from AC/DC. New caps and a general clean-up should kick it along even more. Good luck and thanks for posting
Years ago I played an old office PA/intercom amplifier made by a company named Bell. It pushed a 4x10 Super Reverb cabinet that had a blown amp head. One of the best sounding amps I ever played. To this day I have no idea where they are.
I had a "British " made "Hacker" active intercom speaker from the 50s ..had 3 valves and I GPO( 1/4") jack input and it was clean up to full blast. Was too well made for Guitar. It was only a 6" speaker but you could play a Bass guitar through it. They built to much higher specs in the 50s /60s the gear had to last.
Shhh. These sort of unconventional guitar amps are a hidden secret to getting unique tones. Don’t tell a lot of people because they will sky rocket prices.
I hear the secret sauce is in the transformers. Rick Beato’s UA-cam friend made a video with the guy from 2 rock that said he can’t tell us why but it’s something to do with the iron. I wish he would have spilled the beans, lol. Im a sucker for this crap. I hope you convert the Jack some how. What an amazing piece of history. Makes me wonder how the the movies must have sounded.
You could hypothetically do a gig with this if you mic'ed 🎤🔊 the cab and ran it thru the mains . This would really be nice used in a recording studio setting. 🎸
I like this.. "amp" so much, that I've charted EVERY abandoned Theatre within fair proximity of where I reside.. And I'm gonna hunt One a' these BEAUTIES down to add to My Gear Collection.. I've run thru' this clip numerous times.. and I just gotta' have "IT".. I WANT that TONE!! Its completely in a "League Of It's Own"!!
Turned one of these things into a vox amp to better utilize that preamp pentode, then utilized the rest of the 12ax7s to create a hotrodded marhsall kind of thing. Basic tone control with the Dumble jazz/rock switch. Made it so you could blend the two channels together. Shit SCREAMED
It sounds rally great. The dark sound on lower volume might be moddable, with a high bleed capacitor on the volume potentiometer. What is the purpose of the bread pan?
Do ya think some of that overdrive is from leaky caps? I used the same amp for a while,but it was way too fragile to bounce around in a band cube truck and yep- it disappeared I had changed the two pin jacks to regular 1/4 inchers,but always remembered the live 500 volt chassis- never touch the strings and a microphone with an ungrounded wall plug -especially with a beer- soaked mustache CUIDADO AMIGOS,NO BUENO
It sounds like Pete Townsend's guitar from The Who. Not bad for a projector amp. There is a few others who have done the same on UA-cam, some have done some mods.
Did you modify/remove anything from the circuit? I bought one of these and a matching speaker years back (blame Blake Mills) and an amp tech buddy unhooked the thing that visually reads the audio on the film strips, to make sure it didn't make extra noise, and maybe unhooked some other stuff so I wouldn't electrocute myself and put regular speaker jacks on it... I can't remember if I even played through it once I got it back home and it's been on a shelf. Thanks for the reminder to pull it out and test it.
Nice riffage! I love it! I would be playing Neil Young riffs all day. How many watts do you think it’s pushing? I would be very careful with that speaker. I picked up an Ampro speaker with a similar vintage Jensen speaker (field coil speaker) in it a few years ago. Unfortunately, It was ready to turn to dust when I bought it. Hopefully yours is in much better condition, but I wouldn’t crank it too much! Anyway, thanks for sharing that cool, funky old amp!
Does Not Sound like Crap!Its All in the Tone,and Ears of the Players,Choice!So Ya Might like Your Guitar so distorted or delayed,that you cant tell if ya Suck!😂So This Clean Vintage Tones are COOL!😮😊❤❣
You definitely have an input impedance mismatch 1 meg input is required. You will never clean up this amp with headroom without getting these gain staging setup properly. Sure it will buzz and fuzz but, NO CLEAN
Sounds like what it is…crap.
GR8 B8 M8
but rare old crap !
I love the tone
But crap (i.e. distortion) from tube amps is highly valued by guitarists 😂 For music playback, I'll always prefer solid-state!
Comments like this always make me wonder what type of amp the commenter prefers. In Peter Sokol’s case I’d say a Peavey Bandit.
I’ve never had better tone than plugging into something like this. They take effects really well.
I freakin love that sound, especially with your playing style. tears in my eyes... seriously!
We used to mod amps to do this in the mid 90s at Black Market Music in LA. Lots of these are out there cheap - and with some knowledge and tweaking you can get past the unusual tones that they typically put out. A good basic platform for a lot of ideas.
That valve set up should pump out 50w with perhaps some chassis mods.
2 prong!!?? Beware the bare feet on concrete floor! We all learned that one back in the day 😳😳😳⚡⚡⚡
Outstanding presentation thanks!
That thing sounds awesome
I have one of those, I bought it right by where John Lee Hooker was playing in Blues Brothers movie. 30 years ago. Sounded great but blew it out after a few days and have not yet had it repaired. (projector still working.)
5:15 I wanted him to play “Uncle Salty” by Aerosmith. That sound would be perfect for it.
Back in the 70s, we didn't have pedals and relied on the combination of our guitar, amp and speakers to get the right sound. I made a tube amp with two preamps channels, one channel was modelled off of a Fender twin reverb and the other channel was modelled off of a Marshall amp. They fed four 6L6GC tubes for 100 Watts output. We used to play with the 6L6GC tube bias to get that sweet distortion. We found that setting the bias so the output tubes just started to glow red worked the best. We also played a lot with the presence circuit which introduced a feedback loop from the output transformer back into the preamps. I was a bass player at the time and traded the head for a Peavey 140 Watt transistor head. I build a custom set of ported speaker cabinets with a JBL 140 15 inch speaker in each. I had a 1960 Fender Precision at the time with flatwound Rotosound strings. Alas, everything is long gone.
There were pedals in the 70s.
@@spoookytooth
ABSO'!! There certainly were pedals in the 70's!! Yet of course not like there are pedals NOW.. The only diff' NOW, is that, like with everything else electronic.. advancements in technology have shined upon Guitar equipment.. offering more brands & a Zillion' & 3 pedal choices..
*To the best of My knowledge, the 1st commercial "standalone effect" ever manufactured, was in the late 1940's.. a tremolo unit by DeArmond.
Maybe He's sayin' in other words that: We didn't have any, cuz' they were outta' my/our price range or something similar (?)
Growing up, playing in my backyard, on Bogen amps, old twins...
And just growing into my future.
I'll be 69 this year.
And I'm not stopping for a damned thing!!
If you're going to blaze.
Give that shit all you've got!
@@NoWayOut55
MY MAN!! You GO My Brother of the "Guitar World"!! Myself, I'm pushin' 60 and My hands are gettin' so damn arthritic that It's takin' away My dexterity, speed & accuracy.. 3 MAIN INGREDIENTS of playin'!!😔 And yeah, My Dr.''s worked with Me to help Me get some relief.. BUT.. I AIN'T GIVIN' UP.. 🎸Has saved My Life.. several times!! So to hear that You Sir, can still rip It up.. I'm glad for Ya'.. Keep on jammin'!!🎸
That old Epi sounded great through it. I'd totally track with a rig like that- a great secret weapon for the studio!
Wow, love the tone!
All of these sound so good. Great playing.
I had a stereo Robert's Reel to Reel that I used as guitar pre
Good Stuff there
Oh , and I grew up in a Electronics repair shop in the 70s in Elmhurst Queens
Sa2 many great items pass thru Dad's shop
I lived at 111th st 43rd ave Corona from age 6 to 10. Remember school science room was full of great stuff that got me into electronics. 1st thing the teacher taught us was how a hand cranked Generator produced current. Fsntastic times in 1970s Queens.
Sounds damn good. You should store it at my house where it will be safe.
Welllll'.. I was hopin' I could "borrow" It from Him.. juuuust'.. for a cup'la days.. mmm'maybe a week the most.. Ya' know.. I'd even bring It back in "better shape" than It was before I borrowed It!! Thaaat's a bit better than keepin' It safe!!🤣
Surprisingly clean overdrive
Thanks for posting. Hear some vintage AC\DC tone into the amp directly. Killer!
Get that thing going through a Marshall quad and it would kick ass
cooool! ill have to keep im eye open for Filmosound now..
There's a TON of other projector amps out there....
@ oh interesting.. any recommendations??
Wow 😮 Absolutely beautiful sound
😂
Love that ancient tube tone got a lot of texture
That is a killer tone. Pretty transparent overdrive, nice and even across the frequencies even without the compressor. Slap a Sennheiser MD421 on it with that SM57 and you have a great recording amp.
😂
Sounds nice, I wonder if you can get some twangier tones after you update it.
Might sound cool with a spring reverb.
Love the video and the sound :) nice to see something different
I have two 1953 Fender Deluxe amps. They have the same tube configuration.
Great tone! Very reminiscent of Malcom Young from AC/DC. New caps and a general clean-up should kick it along even more. Good luck and thanks for posting
Years ago I played an old office PA/intercom amplifier made by a company named Bell. It pushed a 4x10 Super Reverb cabinet that had a blown amp head. One of the best sounding amps I ever played. To this day I have no idea where they are.
have a bell 118 cab for bas that can DO A PUNCH
I had a "British " made "Hacker" active intercom speaker from the 50s ..had 3 valves and I GPO( 1/4") jack input and it was clean up to full blast. Was too well made for Guitar. It was only a 6" speaker but you could play a Bass guitar through it. They built to much higher specs in the 50s /60s the gear had to last.
Glorious.
Great rock sound!
Freakin' AWESOME!! I can almost see Joe Walsh bustin' into Walk Away!!
Fullosound! Nice gritty tone. I have a newer projector with EL84s but haven't used it yet so I'll be watching...
This amplifier with a tube screamer should sound fantastic, which it already does!
Sounds amazing
Love your playing, not showing off. Letting us hear the amp. Very nice.
Shhh. These sort of unconventional guitar amps are a hidden secret to getting unique tones. Don’t tell a lot of people because they will sky rocket prices.
Filmosound retromods are already pretty well-known among players who pay attention to the boutique amp world
Getting hard to find for cheap. Almost cheaper to buy new parts.
@@alanshewitt oh but there’s others. Many many others. It’s probably a good thing guitar players aren’t the brightest 😝
wonderful sound 🙋🎸
Great stuff! I’ve got some NOS tubes for that little gem if you’re interested.
Those connectors look similar to whats on a Lesley cabinet.
Sounds great
Kinda reminds me of an AC4 😊
…when it’s unplugged.
I hear the secret sauce is in the transformers. Rick Beato’s UA-cam friend made a video with the guy from 2 rock that said he can’t tell us why but it’s something to do with the iron. I wish he would have spilled the beans, lol. Im a sucker for this crap. I hope you convert the Jack some how. What an amazing piece of history. Makes me wonder how the the movies must have sounded.
Great tone! It sounds like old AC/DC guitars.
Sounds surprisingly good
You could hypothetically do a gig with this if you mic'ed 🎤🔊 the cab and ran it thru the mains . This would really be nice used in a recording studio setting. 🎸
In the 70s, we used to plug a radio amp or similar into a guitar amp to create distortion.
OMG that sounds so sweeeeeeeeeet!
That's probably the most perfect dirty sound I've ever heard.
The compressor killed it. Better without.
I like this.. "amp" so much, that I've charted EVERY abandoned Theatre within fair proximity of where I reside.. And I'm gonna hunt One a' these BEAUTIES down to add to My Gear Collection.. I've run thru' this clip numerous times.. and I just gotta' have "IT".. I WANT that TONE!! Its completely in a "League Of It's Own"!!
Turned one of these things into a vox amp to better utilize that preamp pentode, then utilized the rest of the 12ax7s to create a hotrodded marhsall kind of thing. Basic tone control with the Dumble jazz/rock switch. Made it so you could blend the two channels together. Shit SCREAMED
sounds good.... rock it!.. P90 is my favoritee ...
Lovely
I find it nice both playing and filmamp
The drive tone, sounds like a tube screamer
But you didn’t explain it later!! What’s with the bread pan? Dashnerds need to know.
ua-cam.com/video/l57oXyCt8oY/v-deo.htmlsi=_2WTxY-CQiqDN7Pr&t=148 😊
It’s a little short on shielding
Yep. Shields a bit to reduce noise.
Half a Faraday cage.
Chicken in the breadpan....pickin out dough..
Sounds great. No need to change any components.
Yeah, pretty cool, I like the shield
Sounds nice!
It sounds rally great.
The dark sound on lower volume might be moddable, with a high bleed capacitor on the volume potentiometer.
What is the purpose of the bread pan?
Wasn't this exact video uploaded years ago?
this would be a great preamp for a Randall Commander!
I like it, good score!
Sounds great!
Awesome! I need go check out the thrift stores!
Do ya think some of that overdrive is from leaky caps? I used the same amp for a while,but it was way too fragile to bounce around in a band cube truck and yep- it disappeared
I had changed the two pin jacks to regular 1/4 inchers,but always remembered the live 500 volt chassis- never touch the strings and a microphone with an ungrounded wall plug
-especially with a beer- soaked mustache
CUIDADO AMIGOS,NO BUENO
Very clever - any way to know how many watts of output for that unit?
very cool
Does it sound like “Even order Harmonics” to your ears? It does to mine. Sounds cool.
It sounds like Pete Townsend's guitar from The Who. Not bad for a projector amp. There is a few others who have done the same on UA-cam, some have done some mods.
I will confess that I only know about these because of the Walrus 385 pedal and their explanation of the Bell & Howell trick.
Sounds Hiwatt ish. Very nice, clear tone.
Thos old projector amps sound good and are cool
Did you modify/remove anything from the circuit? I bought one of these and a matching speaker years back (blame Blake Mills) and an amp tech buddy unhooked the thing that visually reads the audio on the film strips, to make sure it didn't make extra noise, and maybe unhooked some other stuff so I wouldn't electrocute myself and put regular speaker jacks on it... I can't remember if I even played through it once I got it back home and it's been on a shelf. Thanks for the reminder to pull it out and test it.
All I did was remove a couple tubes that weren't needed.
Amazing ❤
Nice riffage! I love it! I would be playing Neil Young riffs all day. How many watts do you think it’s pushing?
I would be very careful with that speaker. I picked up an Ampro speaker with a similar vintage Jensen speaker (field coil speaker) in it a few years ago. Unfortunately, It was ready to turn to dust when I bought it.
Hopefully yours is in much better condition, but I wouldn’t crank it too much! Anyway, thanks for sharing that cool, funky old amp!
Has a bit of Television Marquee Moon tone.
Sounded WAY better without cimpression pedal.
What is the round thing in the lower left corner of the speaker cabinet?
Its got that effortless Klon sound
Has a real early AC DC vibe
It souds awesome!
Josh homme probably has one of these already.
what is the purpose of the bread pan?
.... I was looking for the part where an OD is used
So, what was the bread pan for? Did I miss it?
It reduces noise. I'm not sure exactly what it's doing but it may be shielding one of the tubes. It's a lot noisier without the bread pan.
How many watts and how loud was this cool vintage amp?
Cool ❤
Does Not Sound like Crap!Its All in the Tone,and Ears of the Players,Choice!So Ya Might like Your Guitar so distorted or delayed,that you cant tell if ya Suck!😂So This Clean Vintage Tones are COOL!😮😊❤❣
Cool!
Pretty 🆒👍😊
Macs were the industry standard.
Sounds great to me
Sounds great to me ,
Cool , but will it Chug ?!!
No
Great sound! What model is it? I'd like to look up the schematics for it. Thanks!
Model 179
@@DashnerGuitars Thanks! I found the schematic. By changing the 2.7k R and the25 uF C on the 6JGT, you can change the gain and frequency response.
29.00 now you're talking my language
😢cool! Dude you got an amp!
I can make some bread while playing this thing and then go panorama
The word is out on these.
Awesome cool 😂
Try an old old Bogen PA amp .....
Bred pan was an accident. Laying against the machine created a fizz. Wich sounds gd. That’s all
You definitely have an input impedance mismatch 1 meg input is required. You will never clean up this amp with headroom without getting these gain staging setup properly. Sure it will buzz and fuzz but, NO CLEAN
I HATE CLEAN
@DashnerGuitars GO hide behind Mudd buzz then 😂