I would like to know if he didn’t have a physical body after loosing the ring what did he look like and how was he able to gather supporters. There was also another time he didn’t have a body which was when neumenor was destroyed. How did he reform a body? Why wasn’t he destroyed as there was no ring his life force was tied too. Do all Maiar have the ability to live without a body? Gandalf was “sent back” after dying but saurumon just died as did the balrogs. Why does Sauron have this unique ability to survive he physical body being killed multiple times??
He is Maia . Essentially an immortal Spirit , and possessing great magic and cunning he recreated his form. But , because of his diseased spirit , he eventually lost the power to appear in beautiful or noble form , and appeared as a Dark Lord and eventually The Eye . Along with his last great magics , his Essence was tied to The Ruling Ring and upon it's destruction , his works were undone and his spirit scattered/destroyed . Hope that helps .👍🍻
@@antoniehm87He was originally and essentially an immortal spirit that was around at the Beginning with , and created by , the Mind of Illuvitar and , as such , imbued with great power . Rather than thinking of Sauron and Gandalf as beings who would die if their physical bodies were destroyed , think of them as Spirits , who created physical bodies for themselves to interact with other physical beings , like Elves and Men , etc. If you have not , read The Silmarillion . Imho , it is even better than LOTR , and you can't get higher praise than THAT ! So they return to their actual forms rather than dying .
30:10 Correction, Sauron's master plan to corrupt the Elves was an abject failure, so he tried to save some remnant of his original plan, and dolled out the elven-rings to the other races to see if maybe he could get some percentage of return on his investment. It mostly failed with the Dwarves, but was a resounding success with Mankind.
@@Cuppa_Doc it needs to be said that the rings in some form affected the dwarfs not like the kings of men but its noted that it made the dwarves more greedy and lust for gold, and that sometimes brought them chaos. as example the story of erebor, durins bane etc
It always proves that evil is never defeated but must be fought generation by generation. The monster is never dead, even when the hero is done. When the fight is over for the time being, the good men who have thrown evil down must build a future that is good. And so must we. When we have thrown down the evil that plagues us.
Ahh sauron the boss who brcame a couch patato, choosing to spend his time watching events unfold on the T.V. (palantir) rather than take a active role as a immortal dread spirit that could have swung the war at many points throughout.
12:12 Imagine Sauron and the werewolves were all transformed by Luthien into chow chow, St. Bernard, Chocolate Labrador, and golden retriever pups ----- and they couldn't change back!!
In addition to being a great reformer who would bring law and order in a scenario of cultural decay after the War of Wrath, I think Sauron saw himself as a Promethean figure who would lift Humanity out of cultural prehistory and technological ignorance: The Silmarillion says that the men of the East and South built cities of stone and had access to metallurgical knowledge.
It should also be noted that we learn Sauron’s “story/motives etc” from the side of his enemies. All he wanted was to bring order to a chaotic world. He would lift all races up and banish the darkness of ignorance from their eyes and bring about true peace! The only reason he ruled with an iron fist is because he understood the other races lacked the will to govern themselves. For the time being free agency would have to be removed. All hail our wise master Sauron!
This video makes me think, where were all the other "gods"/"maiar" in the time of the 2th and 3th age? And could they have done anything to help in that time?
That's what I don't get. Tulkas could literally punch Sauron into oblivion without a thought even after having fought Melkor; he's just that strong. The only justification for the Valar not outright killing Sauron is that either they wanted him to purge Eru's "mistakes" from the world, or they were told not to interfere by Eru because Eru wanted motrals to be purged.
@@FEARSWTOR I always thought the reason was because when the Valar went to war directly with Melkor, the crossfire basically turned most of the world into a wasteland from all the destruction. You know, after the Valar finish fighting at full strength the world winds up looking like Townsville after the Powerpuff Girls finish fighting Mojo Jojo. AKA utter destruction/ 99.999% collateral damage.
Well Sauron did uphold his end of the promise. He did release the man. Define release to your own opinion. Freed him from the guy pain and join him with his wife.
After the War of Wrath, Sauron believed he could restore order to a society in disrepair, and I believe he also imagined himself as a Promethean hero who might save humanity from its cultural nadir and technological ignorance: According to the Silmarillion, the southern and eastern men gained access to metallurgical expertise and constructed stone towns.
I did not realize that Sauron and Morgoth were not together in the war of wrath . I assumed Sauron was with him till the end? I believe that is what was said?
Anyone know how the Maiar like Sauron or the Balrogs were able to walk the earth presumably unchecked in their power, while the Astari had to be sent with limitations and for a specific mission? Is this a difference between the First Age and the later ones? Or why was Morgoth, a Valar for that matter, allowed to visit the mortal realm (again unchecked in power)?
The Maiar like Sauron and the balrogs came to Arda (Middle-Earth) on their own account with the sole purpose to dominate the world with their evil so their powers went unchecked. Then somewhere in the third age the actions of those roque Maiar resulted in a situation where there HAD to be intervened by the Ainur or else the dark plans of Morgoth and Sauron would have been successful. But the solution of sending more Maiar into Arda to fix the mess of some other maiar has its obvious flaws so they made sure their powers couldn't be used to actually lead or dominate the free people and were solely there in an advisory role.
I could see that, Maybe even play as Morgoth during the war of wrath. Don't stop at orcs. We could have dragons, werewolves, vampires. All under Sauron's control.
did you just skip over how Finrod slayed the werewolf and died to save Beren? Ok its a video of Sauron but when you were into that part of the story its kind of strange to skip over that part.
Saurons intention for Gollum was death. He was sent to Shelob and was captured but set free for a promise of sweeter meats. How did he speak to giant spiders? How did Bilbo talk to dragons? 🤔🤔🤔
First time Morgoth was taken away in chains was NOT the Battle of the Powers. It was tge War for tge Elves. The Battle of tge Powers was his final defeat.
ok, it would be of great help in my head if someone could explain this. The three rings made exclusively by the elves. How did they know they were betrayed by Sauron when they put them on? There was none of Sauron’s work and evil in them, so this makes zero sense to me.
I don't remember if Sauron "created" Orcs as a warrior race, or corrupted existing beings, but that era when Sauron began building his armies would be a good focus. Maybe you've covered this already? 🎉😂
Plot spoiler: i liked his incarnation as halbrand on rings of power. Wow, it was so clever how they did it. He looked a little bit like Aragorn and i honestly had no idea he was Sauron until the end. He was very much Sauron the deceiver, very well done and what a plot twist!
You are talking a load of crap. Rings Of Power is "fan fiction" that ignores the lore of Tolkien. Looking at your other post(s), you are either trying to provoke reactions or a shill on behalf of Amazon.
@@chadbrierley9989 I could say the same about you working for Sky. Strange that when the truly dire house of the dragon came out, all these bizarre attacks on its rival, Rings of P suddenly appeared. And as for deliberately provoking people? Definitely not, nevermind that many people are attacking a series I love. That's what I'd call provocative. My main aim is to find out a good solid reason why people dislike Rings of P and so far, nothing substantial has cropped up. For example, someone complained because one scene had a cow in it. Oh, and when I was disappointed by the hobbit movies I didn't have some kind of mental breakdown and start writing all these nasty comments on UA-cam about either the movies themselves or attacking anyone who liked them. And while I'm all for free speech and believe in respecting other people's opinions, to insult someone personally just because they don't agree with you is pointless and only shames the person who made them in the first place.
@fred20097 The reason most people hate it is because they are acting like Tolkien was just a terrible writer and wrote it in their own way entirely it's led many people to believe silly things like Galadriel was a warrior and the orcs have compassion and sauron... I don't even want to look back on that but their is no such thing as halbrand It's even worse some fans of this show say awful things such as Tolkien didn't care about color when he literally wrote the Haradim and the Easterlings were of color. Tolkien wanted people to expend on his work I have no issue with this but Amazon don't do that. Instead they crap all over his work because they seem to think he didn't understand his own story
@@mysticwraith6667 I never in a million yrs thought I'd ever be defending Amazon, but anyway - the creators never claim to follow a faithful rendition of Tolkien. They merely based the series on Tolkien's work; I've heard apart from anything else because of copyright issues. But this then makes watching it more unpredictable and exciting. I'm sorry if you feel that rings of p is disrespectful to Tolkien. I don't get that impression. And while Tolkien is clearly a genius, his novels aren't perfect either. Ty for explaining though. I happen to think Peter Jackson crapped all over Tolkien, much more than rings of p. For example, the hobbit movies bore little resemblance to the novel, although I wouldn't have minded if they'd been worth watching, but they weren't.
I never read books. Return of the king (Movie)The Lady thrust her sword in the face armored big guy with big mace. His that guy was Sauron in physical form ???
falkland states that the L's hid their rings and never used them again And yet they wore them openly On to that is glad we're all at hers you didn't give his to Gandalf Who wore it openly you could see that he had it wasn't hidden it wasn't secret granted they didn't use those powers or abilities that the Rings gave them except maybe subtly like the mayor of Galatriel and the fireworks of Gandalf and the chaming of the river and the Brennan Brilliant yep by L Ron subtle magics which could have been done by the by the individuals themselves without the aid of their rings or at least that is implied that they could already do these things without the aid of the rings but still they wore them and they still they could be seen wearing them so I don't know how they were kept secret and hidden when t. hey were not I feel like hiding something in plain sight
Tolkiens work is pretty pessimistic, the hero fails in the end, and its only dumb luck that saves the day, and there will be another evil that will rise to take Saurons place. Only divine grace helps the characters. Mankind is doomed.
39:47 amazon would have u think differently about that...clearly they diddnt read the books - heck they could of just watched this vid but noooooooooooooo we have to get some stupid idea that sympathy towards orcs is the way to go....
Soo funny. Tolkien and a few pals in the English literature dept . Sitting In the pub. Discussing Ancient Celtic tales and made up languages. Started this crazy multi billion €$€€€ Industry. Shows how credulous we are. Some people truly belive in elves dwarfs hobbits etc. lol. How sad. But fun. At least T Pratchett was tongue in cheek
Can't wait for the next release of Amazon's Rings of Power. The first series was about the best interpretation of the lord of the rings ever. Shame he added shots from the truly appalling Jackson version of the Hobbit. Those movies should be buried down deep and never see the light of day
![The Complete History of the Rings of Power [COMPILATION]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rsCaXGvMypM/mqdefault.jpg)
👀 Which period of Saurons life do you wish there was more information on? 🤔
His actual form during the 3000-3019 period
I'm not sure, but it would sure be great to know what Sauron thought of Eru Iluvetar
I would like to know if he didn’t have a physical body after loosing the ring what did he look like and how was he able to gather supporters. There was also another time he didn’t have a body which was when neumenor was destroyed. How did he reform a body? Why wasn’t he destroyed as there was no ring his life force was tied too. Do all Maiar have the ability to live without a body? Gandalf was “sent back” after dying but saurumon just died as did the balrogs. Why does Sauron have this unique ability to survive he physical body being killed multiple times??
He is Maia . Essentially an immortal Spirit , and possessing great magic and cunning he recreated his form. But , because of his diseased spirit , he eventually lost the power to appear in beautiful or noble form , and appeared as a Dark Lord and eventually The Eye . Along with his last great magics , his Essence was tied to The Ruling Ring and upon it's destruction , his works were undone and his spirit scattered/destroyed .
Hope that helps .👍🍻
@@antoniehm87He was originally and essentially an immortal spirit that was around at the Beginning with , and created by , the Mind of Illuvitar and , as such , imbued with great power . Rather than thinking of Sauron and Gandalf as beings who would die if their physical bodies were destroyed , think of them as Spirits , who created physical bodies for themselves to interact with other physical beings , like Elves and Men , etc. If you have not , read The Silmarillion .
Imho , it is even better than LOTR , and you can't get higher praise than THAT !
So they return to their actual forms rather than dying .
"Give us an upload worthy of Sauron."
And then he did. Nice job, mate.
You can say that ladd to Prime video Amazon 😂😂😂
Love that you put it all together, I'm excited to sit here and listen instead of working 💪
Thank you! Enjoy 😁
I’d like to see you in my office son
30:10 Correction, Sauron's master plan to corrupt the Elves was an abject failure, so he tried to save some remnant of his original plan, and dolled out the elven-rings to the other races to see if maybe he could get some percentage of return on his investment. It mostly failed with the Dwarves, but was a resounding success with Mankind.
Interesting the Dwarves could resist Saurons rings but not the Arken stone.
Dragon sickness
The dwarves are made of the stuff of Earth, with a will as strong as Stone, but not stronger than the arkenstone. 😂
@@Cuppa_Doc it needs to be said that the rings in some form affected the dwarfs not like the kings of men but its noted that it made the dwarves more greedy and lust for gold, and that sometimes brought them chaos. as example the story of erebor, durins bane etc
This one is really dense! As someone who is writing LOTR TTRPG campaigns based on The Silmarillion, this is a wonderful resource.
@@Blubdunk so bro, can I come over? 💀
Sauron kept his word to Gorlim. He freed him from life and sent him to his wife in the afterlife.
The rhymes were unintentional.
It always proves that evil is never defeated but must be fought generation by generation.
The monster is never dead, even when the hero is done.
When the fight is over for the time being, the good men who have thrown evil down must build a future that is good.
And so must we.
When we have thrown down the evil that plagues us.
Ahh sauron the boss who brcame a couch patato, choosing to spend his time watching events unfold on the T.V. (palantir) rather than take a active role as a immortal dread spirit that could have swung the war at many points throughout.
"Boss, boss, the enemy is at the gates"
"Not now shagrat, galadriels getting out the shower again"😂
12:12 Imagine Sauron and the werewolves were all transformed by Luthien into chow chow, St. Bernard, Chocolate Labrador, and golden retriever pups ----- and they couldn't change back!!
I still wouldn't sleep around those puppies.....
In addition to being a great reformer who would bring law and order in a scenario of cultural decay after the War of Wrath, I think Sauron saw himself as a Promethean figure who would lift Humanity out of cultural prehistory and technological ignorance: The Silmarillion says that the men of the East and South built cities of stone and had access to metallurgical knowledge.
Finally someone who also understands the greatness and importance of our Master!
It should also be noted that we learn Sauron’s “story/motives etc” from the side of his enemies. All he wanted was to bring order to a chaotic world. He would lift all races up and banish the darkness of ignorance from their eyes and bring about true peace! The only reason he ruled with an iron fist is because he understood the other races lacked the will to govern themselves. For the time being free agency would have to be removed. All hail our wise master Sauron!
I never replied to Orc Lords before 🎉🎉 this is cool, very cool. So you both survived the fall of Barad-dur? That's mega mega. 😊
@@ZENmud always pack a parachute
All hail spooder-sauron...
Yeahup. Sauron is my favorite character across fiction.
I also liked Darth Vader and the White Witch of Narnia.
10:08 thats a polite way of saying they wore the orcs faces as well
May God bless you and your work sir ❤❤❤ just found this channal and subscribed immediately ❤ respect form Croatia-Europe ❤❤❤
,nice work dude thanks
So good!! Thank you!!!
Fear is always and only the force that drives evil. Fear. And in that fear is why so much atrocity is committed
I’ve always kind of wondered: if somehow Melkor was released…. Would Sauron follow him, or fight him. Fun to think about
I think eventually Sauron would betray him as he they had different end goals but would he defeat him? Well hard to to say
This video makes me think, where were all the other "gods"/"maiar" in the time of the 2th and 3th age? And could they have done anything to help in that time?
That's what I don't get. Tulkas could literally punch Sauron into oblivion without a thought even after having fought Melkor; he's just that strong. The only justification for the Valar not outright killing Sauron is that either they wanted him to purge Eru's "mistakes" from the world, or they were told not to interfere by Eru because Eru wanted motrals to be purged.
@@FEARSWTOR I always thought the reason was because when the Valar went to war directly with Melkor, the crossfire basically turned most of the world into a wasteland from all the destruction. You know, after the Valar finish fighting at full strength the world winds up looking like Townsville after the Powerpuff Girls finish fighting Mojo Jojo. AKA utter destruction/ 99.999% collateral damage.
I get the feeling that Sosuke Aizen from Bleach would praise Sauron for some things but criticized him for others. Any thoughts?
You forgot to include he really likes pink macaroons… but only the pink ones.
Well Sauron did uphold his end of the promise. He did release the man. Define release to your own opinion. Freed him from the guy pain and join him with his wife.
Outstanding history of Sauron :)
After the War of Wrath, Sauron believed he could restore order to a society in disrepair, and I believe he also imagined himself as a Promethean hero who might save humanity from its cultural nadir and technological ignorance: According to the Silmarillion, the southern and eastern men gained access to metallurgical expertise and constructed stone towns.
Hell yeah brother
I did not realize that Sauron and Morgoth were not together in the war of wrath . I assumed Sauron was with him till the end? I believe that is what was said?
Sauron: (sits on his ass and does nothing) "How did I lose?"
Anyone know how the Maiar like Sauron or the Balrogs were able to walk the earth presumably unchecked in their power, while the Astari had to be sent with limitations and for a specific mission? Is this a difference between the First Age and the later ones? Or why was Morgoth, a Valar for that matter, allowed to visit the mortal realm (again unchecked in power)?
The Maiar like Sauron and the balrogs came to Arda (Middle-Earth) on their own account with the sole purpose to dominate the world with their evil so their powers went unchecked.
Then somewhere in the third age the actions of those roque Maiar resulted in a situation where there HAD to be intervened by the Ainur or else the dark plans of Morgoth and Sauron would have been successful. But the solution of sending more Maiar into Arda to fix the mess of some other maiar has its obvious flaws so they made sure their powers couldn't be used to actually lead or dominate the free people and were solely there in an advisory role.
"shadow of morgoth" sounds like a game we need WB to make. Instead of talion you'd now be sauron making his army
I could see that, Maybe even play as Morgoth during the war of wrath. Don't stop at orcs. We could have dragons, werewolves, vampires. All under Sauron's control.
I always thought a game as played as one of the blue wizards would be epic
That thumbnail picture looks very nice, any idea where I can find it? I wish to buy it and make it a poster on my wall
It’s a commissioned piece we had done by the incredible Ralph Damiani 😁
Sauron: gimmie dem rangs, the elves: nah fam
did you just skip over how Finrod slayed the werewolf and died to save Beren? Ok its a video of Sauron but when you were into that part of the story its kind of strange to skip over that part.
I’m pretty sure he talked about it.
@@jimbombadill probably because he killed just one of sauron's many werewolves. Not sauron himself.
4:04 commiserating
Saurons intention for Gollum was death. He was sent to Shelob and was captured but set free for a promise of sweeter meats. How did he speak to giant spiders? How did Bilbo talk to dragons? 🤔🤔🤔
"Build me a Sauron worthy of Mordor, Amazon ?!"
First time Morgoth was taken away in chains was NOT the Battle of the Powers. It was tge War for tge Elves.
The Battle of tge Powers was his final defeat.
44:52 it’s just a little Cheeto dist
👍👍 A very good history, thanks for posting!
Sauron put a secret back door in the rings of power
Wait, I thought his name was Halbrand and he was from the ‘Southlands’ 😂
We don't talk about the show that shall not be named.
Sauron is just lucky he didn't live forever, coz he would have been crucified during the Catholic Inquisition.
As near in approach to the wholly evil will as is possible.
ok, it would be of great help in my head if someone could explain this.
The three rings made exclusively by the elves. How did they know they were betrayed by Sauron when they put them on? There was none of Sauron’s work and evil in them, so this makes zero sense to me.
"He's had a hell of a life" 😂
To know the world of Tolkien, get to know Tolkien.
I don't remember if Sauron "created" Orcs as a warrior race, or corrupted existing beings, but that era when Sauron began building his armies would be a good focus. Maybe you've covered this already? 🎉😂
Sauron didn’t create orcs….morgoth did by corrupting captured elves.
Pixel Sauron?!?!
so sauron became weaker and weaker from second age onwards?
Plot spoiler: i liked his incarnation as halbrand on rings of power. Wow, it was so clever how they did it. He looked a little bit like Aragorn and i honestly had no idea he was Sauron until the end. He was very much Sauron the deceiver, very well done and what a plot twist!
You are talking a load of crap. Rings Of Power is "fan fiction" that ignores the lore of Tolkien. Looking at your other post(s), you are either trying to provoke reactions or a shill on behalf of Amazon.
@@chadbrierley9989 I could say the same about you working for Sky. Strange that when the truly dire house of the dragon came out, all these bizarre attacks on its rival, Rings of P suddenly appeared. And as for deliberately provoking people? Definitely not, nevermind that many people are attacking a series I love. That's what I'd call provocative. My main aim is to find out a good solid reason why people dislike Rings of P and so far, nothing substantial has cropped up. For example, someone complained because one scene had a cow in it. Oh, and when I was disappointed by the hobbit movies I didn't have some kind of mental breakdown and start writing all these nasty comments on UA-cam about either the movies themselves or attacking anyone who liked them. And while I'm all for free speech and believe in respecting other people's opinions, to insult someone personally just because they don't agree with you is pointless and only shames the person who made them in the first place.
@fred20097 The reason most people hate it is because they are acting like Tolkien was just a terrible writer and wrote it in their own way entirely it's led many people to believe silly things like Galadriel was a warrior and the orcs have compassion and sauron... I don't even want to look back on that but their is no such thing as halbrand It's even worse some fans of this show say awful things such as Tolkien didn't care about color when he literally wrote the Haradim and the Easterlings were of color. Tolkien wanted people to expend on his work I have no issue with this but Amazon don't do that. Instead they crap all over his work because they seem to think he didn't understand his own story
@@mysticwraith6667 I never in a million yrs thought I'd ever be defending Amazon, but anyway - the creators never claim to follow a faithful rendition of Tolkien. They merely based the series on Tolkien's work; I've heard apart from anything else because of copyright issues. But this then makes watching it more unpredictable and exciting. I'm sorry if you feel that rings of p is disrespectful to Tolkien. I don't get that impression. And while Tolkien is clearly a genius, his novels aren't perfect either. Ty for explaining though. I happen to think Peter Jackson crapped all over Tolkien, much more than rings of p. For example, the hobbit movies bore little resemblance to the novel, although I wouldn't have minded if they'd been worth watching, but they weren't.
Why does every culture have a god who creates everything and then creates beings that screw everything up?
Free will.
Why do you pronounce Elves like Owlves?
I never read books. Return of the king (Movie)The Lady thrust her sword in the face armored big guy with big mace. His that guy was Sauron in physical form ???
Video 287
Its no mere story
falkland states that the L's hid their rings and never used them again And yet they wore them openly On to that is glad we're all at hers you didn't give his to Gandalf Who wore it openly you could see that he had it wasn't hidden it wasn't secret granted they didn't use those powers or abilities that the Rings gave them except maybe subtly like the mayor of Galatriel and the fireworks of Gandalf and the chaming of the river and the Brennan Brilliant yep by L Ron subtle magics which could have been done by the by the individuals themselves without the aid of their rings or at least that is implied that they could already do these things without the aid of the rings but still they wore them and they still they could be seen wearing them so I don't know how they were kept secret and hidden when t. hey were not I feel like hiding something in plain sight
Tolkiens work is pretty pessimistic, the hero fails in the end, and its only dumb luck that saves the day, and there will be another evil that will rise to take Saurons place. Only divine grace helps the characters. Mankind is doomed.
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Sauron is an elf?
Sauron was a Maiar. A lesser being than the Valar from Eru Ilúvatar's mind
39:47 amazon would have u think differently about that...clearly they diddnt read the books - heck they could of just watched this vid but noooooooooooooo we have to get some stupid idea that sympathy towards orcs is the way to go....
First here!
Hello there!
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Sauron sounds like trump
Dude it’s crazy how you can’t pronounce your’R’s
Soo funny. Tolkien and a few pals in the English literature dept . Sitting In the pub. Discussing Ancient Celtic tales and made up languages. Started this crazy multi billion €$€€€ Industry. Shows how credulous we are. Some people truly belive in elves dwarfs hobbits etc. lol. How sad. But fun. At least T Pratchett was tongue in cheek
Can't wait for the next release of Amazon's Rings of Power. The first series was about the best interpretation of the lord of the rings ever. Shame he added shots from the truly appalling Jackson version of the Hobbit. Those movies should be buried down deep and never see the light of day
Jackson LOTR is iconic and loved by millions today. Amazon's version is trash
HEY Y'ALL WHO'S HERE FROM THE RINGS O POWA??
Maybe think about diversifying your voice inflections.
UNSUBBING.
I like his videos. You sound like a brat kid
Get these advertisements off my screen. I don't want them!
Then u need to pay for ad free. Get over it ads are why this is free
Alves? Wtf? Alves? Cmon man, say it correctly - dont b that one guy