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BOSCH GMF1600 Router Review (Including Comprehensive Overview, Specification and Setup)
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- In this video, I give you an overview of what I believe to be the most versatile and cost effective router in the market and why I chose it over the likes of Festool, Makita, Dewalt, Triton and Ryobi etc. The Bosch GMF1600 is a thing of beauty.
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Is it possible to get some advice from you on tools sold in the UK? We run 220 - 240 60 HZ but I would be happy to find 220 - 240 50 / 60 HZ great vid by the way even though I have the 1617 series love it.
Is this still an active link? All it takes me to is a medical packaging site.
Why not just drill another hole for the adjuster tool on the front and then flip the router around?
I've been using this router for two years. Absolutely love it! Decided to watch your video on a whim and actually learned something!
I've been...thick...the entire time, installing a bit and then remembering that I needed the dust hood. Thank you for showing me that I can just raise the motor to gain the needed clearance instead of removing the bit.
Thanks for the detailed review. I got this set precisely because I wanted to benefit from the multi use system with the fixed base under a router table. For anyone considering this, please check that you get an insert plate that has exactly matching holes for the bosch base pre-drilled. I got an aluminium one without holes, so I just drilled and tapped them myself. I was 0.4 mm off target in the plate and could not attach all screws.
Matt - *this is by far the best intro to the Bosch GMF 1600 ANYWHERE* (and I speak German too). Thank you so much! I have just ordered one. Everything else I've looked at is a compromise and either doesn't fit in a table, can't use 1/2" bits, doesn't have enough power, has no extraction, ... you get the picture. I'd rather buy once than have to buy twice (and spend even more!) to overcome disadvantages. I've seen guys who have 2, 3 and more routers because they're always getting over a shortcoming. You've shown how this is darn close to a universal router saving money despite great versatility. Basingstoke is an old stamping ground - but now I'm in Switzerland for the last 31 years. All the best, Rob.
The flat side is a bit confusing, since you don't need a flat side to run along a straight edge. On a completely round base, the cutter will always maintain the same distance, regardless how you rotate the tool. It could actually get you into trouble, if you don't press with perfectly balanced pressure against the straight edge, the flat side will leverage the tool away from the fence and misalign the cut. The only advantage I could think of to having a flat side would be to fit in tighter spaces. It could act as a tool rest for wrenching off the bit-holding nut, without the tool rolling, but it's on the same side as the cord, so that wouldn't work either, unless you hang the chord over the edge of a table. I put way too much analysis into that.
Hi Matt. I received my GOF1600CE today. Searched UA-cam for vids, found yours, which helped me a lot getting to understand this awesome machine. Thanks a lot for your in-depth demonstration. It's worlds better than reading a boring handbook. Subscribed and looking forward to more vids from you. 😎👍🏻
I'm used to larger, corded routers ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.
Watched it several times in last months and you gave me all the right reasons to go for it over any of the other brands. You should do this more often as it is a nice balance between objective and subjective (given your personal preferences). Take care
Got this for my brother's birthday after watching this. Says it's absolutely brilliant and everything he could've wanted. Cheers Matt.
I was already leaning towards this model. But as a new wood worker I would be more than happy for you to walk through a bunch of router operations, cuts, and tips with the Bosch!
One of the best reviews I've seen for a router (and I've watched a lot). Very thorough without a lot of fuss. Bravo -
I bought this router after your great review. It is really nice and I was using the plunge router with two fence kits..One fence on each side of a door, to machine a cove cut for harmon hinges. Great router kit , very happy with this purchase .thank you very much for the great video
"I'd rather make it difficult for myself than have the logo upside down...." LOL Love it! I can totally relate.
Great video.
Yes I am the same ! Is that OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). LOL 😎
Or… it was ironic.
If the hole for the height adjustment was predrilled the maker of the router plate was obviosly making it wrong…
would you mind doing a one-year after review ?
I own this router for maybe 4 years now, and, while I love the power of the motor, there are few things I hate about it:
- plastic for dust extractor all broke after few (light) usage... they are just too thin/brittle for such a big router
- the fixed router base give really little space to unlock the nuts, but you're lucky, you have a quick lock, where I have to use two wrench... even harder is such a small space
- the fixed router base fine control is almost not working and I have to sustain the motor by hand to remove some weight so the screw is working as normal (and there's no dust in it)
- plunge router base have some oil leaking, making it hard to slide up/down and grabbing lots of dust
- all the small hand-screws to change the setup (especially on the guide... vibration lossing them off) ...getting me nuts
- plunge base felt from the workbench, and the micro-adjust know, full plastic, broke... I know I will be able to get a new one from bosch, but I'm sure it will cost me a hundred :)
- I also bought the router table from bosh, and I HATE it. Actually I removed the small legs and made metal brakets and attached it to the side of my workbench (I can provide pictures if you want). I now have more space to unscrew the router bit... And the top is made of aluminum, leaving dark traces on every wood you slide on it... HATE IT !
/stop-ranting
Always a pleasure to see some of your old videos. Thanks
Tremendous. Watching 10 Videos until I found this. Including everything I was asking myself about my GOF 1600, which is nowhere documented. THANK YOU.
Great video. You explained everything so even a noob woodworker like me can understand.
A wonderfully detailed video. I hope this is the official Bosch video and that you get paid very well, because it is a luxury. They don't know how to sell better than you do!
Good review mate. Agree about the screws for the extraction. I really like the delay in the trigger. Keeps it a true soft start. Worth mentioning the micro adjust can be used when the plunge base is locked, which is great for adjusting on the fly. The fixed base has to be unlocked to use the micro adjust though. Great versatile router. Love mine.
One question. Everytime you use the fixed base under the table you have to unlock to use the micro adjust or can you leave the base unlocked? ( is it dangerous?)
regarding changing cutters, I find with mine, once you have tension on the wrench you don't need to hold the spindle lock, so laying it on it's side, holding the spindle lock, use wrench to get tension then let go ( retaining tension on the wrench ) and then using the handles to brace against means you can put more than enough force to loosen or tighten the collet.
Thanks!!!! probably one of the best tutorials on ANY product I have seen
Hi Matt, I am from Germany and I haven´t found such a good review of this router in german language. :-) I bought this router a week ago but I didn´t know how to use all the equipment that was in the box. Now I know for what I need all the things. Realy good job Matt, better then "Bosch". Best wishes from germany.
The best review of the Bosch GOF/GMF1600 I have ever seen. Thumbs up and subscription left.
I was not 100% sure before your detailed review but now it is clear to me that I will buy the GMF1600. Price / performance ratio, flexibility and multiuses is excellent from my point of view.👍🏻
Got this beast a couple weeks ago, been absolutely loving it and trying out all the different carbide bits and the shapes they create on my little projects- easily my favourite tool in my Bosch collection and thats saying a lot because I usually hate corded tools.
Hi Matt. Just took delivery of one of these in S Africa today. Looked at it and got to admit, was little daunted. Having watched your vid, can't wait to use the thing. Very helpful, as are all of your vids. Thanks.
Your dovetail instructions blew my mind. Brilliant!
For a beginner who is drooling over this router but doesn't have the money to get this. I highly recommend the Bosch POF 1400 ace/ POF 1200 Ace. Alot of the same features like the automatic depth lock. But the only drawback is that doesn't support 1/2" bits. But for me till now it hasn't been an issue yet
WELL DONE!!! Where were you when I was buying my three routers? Quite frankly, this was not available when I got my routers. Two big plunge routers and one small fixed base... Every single drawback you mentioned exists with ALL of my routers. Especially adjusting the router height while in the tables. (I've built two router tables to keep the big routers in but hate them because they require two wrenches to get the bits in and manual lifting to set the height.)
I also have it:) .... and I like the fixed base for hands-free copy milling so much that I bought another one ... so one can be permanently built into the table.
And you install it in the table with the switch facing you, so everything is at hand - the spindle lock, the speed control and also the fastening clips.
Fine-tuning the depth, however, you adjust above anyway ... but you adjust it roughly when inserting the motor....
So nothing is quite "behind" or "away from the hand".
Can you do a video where you talk about how to use a router, which speeds to pick, which size bits, etc etc...
Ohhh yes! That’s what these reviews were in preparation for! :)
Generally speaking larger bits should be run at lower speeds. But I've also noticed that at lower speeds for small, (and kinda dull :-)) roundover bits, for example, I get fewer burn marks.
When you buy a router bit it will state at what speed to operate.
Yes please! Preferably it will include your top 3 most used bits so we can know which ones to start with!
It's actually not a bad price. I was happy that there was a link to Canada's Amazon. Long term effort here, but I'll certainly consider this purchase.
At the time I needed to upgrade my table router, the GMF 1600 cost > € 700 here in Norway, and it only came with metric collets. For about € 250 I was able to purchase the Triton TRA001 (2400W/3.5 hp) on sale and it included both metric and imperial collets (6,8,12mm, and 1/4,1/2''). Since I've been shopping for routers that accept imperial bits pretty much everywhere here in this backward country, but without luck -- just some big question marks wondering "what is a collet -- I finally figured, Triton is a no-brainer for me. I'm not associated w Gustavsenas.no but these guys are good.
Interesting. Both imperial and metric would be awesome
Great video Matt.
I miss so much these kind of test videos.
Just wanted to say thank you for this very in depth description and test run for this model. Yours was by far the best explanation of the product whether good or bad. I have just ordered mine and can’t wait to give it a go. I will also be checking out your website and I’m excited to learn something new. Your product review was “bang on”! My fiancé is English and got a kick out of your sayings! 😉👍🏽
Awesome review as always Matt. I’ve had this router for quite a few years and love it’s features and power. It has to be mounted underneath the table the way you’ve done it otherwise you are feeding into the spinning bit the wrong way (the same direction as it’s spinning).
Glad you liked the video! Not sure what you mean by putting the router in the wrong way round. That’s like saying a clock will spin anticlockwise if you mount it upside down.... 😂
@@MattEstlea Not quite! It's more like mounting a clock facing towards the wall. (Provided you can see the hands through the rear of the clock.) :-)
I had no idea. Thanks. I’ve been curious for some time now and had no idea what to get as far as a tool with the most practical features and I find this is a well thought out piece of machinery and not some cheap crap you get tired of fussing with. I like that this Bosch also works well in a table where most of what I would imagine woodworkers go to on a regular basis but then handheld serves its purpose as well. Thanks again. I might get one before the year is out.
Probably my favourite video so far. Very well done. I was very indecisive about my next router purchase, but this has made it easy.
Brilliant Matt. I have a Bosch GMF 1600 CE. Why Bosch (a German company) doesn't offer the Bosch RA1181 router table in Europe is beyond me. It would be ideal.
Instead I will probably have to spend twice this to get a professional quality non-Bosch router table for my Bosch GMF 1600 CE (MRC EVS 23K) router.
I've got the same router kit and really like it. Once I realized how the switch works it has never bothered me in actual use. As mentioned by other, I really don't care for the flat cut into the router base. It makes following guides more difficult than it needs to be. I love the fence, it's great. The main criticism I have is with the fixed base used in a router table. The guy I bought the router table from set it up the same way you did and I couldn't stand having the adjustment under the fence. I could have remounted it and fixed that if it wasn't for the main issue. When hung upside-down, when you twist the micro-adjust enough, the router body will slip to the next notch in the course adjustment. So your lifting it up and then it will fall back down. I used it for almost a year before I had become feed up enough to buy a router lift table insert. Might have been a problem with the fixed base I got but it was intolerable in a router lift. Otherwise it's an excellent router system and I really do like it a lot.
Hi Bruce. Are you saying that you are using this router with a router lift? If yes, what lift did you go with, and how do you power the router? Is there a separate switch available and does it clear the lift clamps? What about changing bits? Is that difficult with it mounted in a lift? I would be eternally grateful if you are able to answer those questions. Thanks.
@@TrevorDennis100 Yes, I got a JessEm Mast-R-Lift and couldn't be happier. I have a Kregg router table and it came with a switch. It's mounted on the side of the table. You plug the router into the switch and the switch into the mains. You just lock the power switch on the router to the on position. When you flip the switch on the side of the table the router starts. Changing bits is easy. Just wind the router to highest position in the lift. You do need to get the offset wrenches that Bosch sells. The collet does not come above the surface of the router table. Bosch part no. RA1152. Mounting it in the lift wasn't hard. JessEm provides good instructions with the lift. Hope that helps.
Thanks, this was very useful.
It's an expensive bit of kit for sure, but the top side adjustment feature when in router table mode is a great feature considering the price of dedicated router lifts.
Great vid. So much detail. I appreciate it.
Nice review. Bought one. I wish I bought it Through your UA-cam channel. I have one suggestion about the router table and the issue of detaching it blindly. Put a small mirror inside the box with a small light.
A review that is long term, real world, and list actual good and bad? Don't think this is allowed on the internet.
Thanks for showing the fix base setup on a table. Was debating which exact router to get, now I know I'll be getting it through your link.
Glad I found your channel(?) Takes a little getting use to your English vs. mine (small joke - very small) . I have 4 Bosch routers but not this one. I heard and read that the plunger has some problems. Have you experienced any?
Also, a BIG THANKS! for showing the features. I own 3 - 1617 (fixed and plunge) and didn't know about the dust collection more than the one that comes with the miter set-up which does't do me much good in my uses.
Thanks again Matt, great and informative video.
One point worth covering about the switches ONLY being in the base is that when used in a router table you can NOT use the kind that hold the motor directly. You must mount one of the two bases that come with the router under the table or to the simple plate. Not a big issue, but something to be aware of.
Wonderful review, very helpful, due to fact I just purchased this and am new to this tool. Thanks so much
Just picked this up. Thanks for the review Matt!
I wish that you had published this video before I rushed out and bought a Festool router...
Oh well, I'm looking forward to seeing your in depth router series. If you can include advice on how to stop the bearing on a guided bit from marking the workpiece I'll be your friend for life!
Do you have the OF1400? If so, and you use guide bushings, check to see if the bit is centered in the bushing. Mine wasn't but I modified the guide bushing plate and was able to get it centered. I have a poorly made video of what I did.
If my OF1400 dies on me I'll be getting the Bosch for sure. One thing the OF1400 really needs but doesn't have is lights, especially for aging eyes.
Thanks Matt that solves a problem for me seeing how I can’t get a triton any more.
The machine sounds quite complicated to use. Thanks for the comprehensive review and demonstration.
Wouldn’t it be better if Bosh manufactured a cordless version of the router? I mean, that cord seems to be too much around the tool. It's rather inconvenient, I think.
Great job, and cheers!
Thanks for the detailed review Matt. Obviously you like the word “obvious” which obviously may be a concern for any newbie unfamiliar with a routing tool and operation.
Got one of these mounted in my router table. Lasted about 9 month with less than 3 hrs hobby use before the motor gave out. Think inverted in the table, the sawdust drops into the machine too easily through slots in the motor casing around the LEDs, these face upwards when mounted of course. UJK table with full extraction on it, profile cutting soft wood only. Needed a full motor rebuild...….
A very interesting review and as someone very new to enjoying woodwork I found it really useful, thanks
Excellent comprehensive review - very helpful!
Great review.
As you say in your video, the biggest advantage is that you don't need a router lifter, and this is precisely what has drawn me to this router. You rightly point out that a consequent £300 - £350 saving is to me made, but should probably have pointed out that this Bosch router is around £130 - £140 more than a Makita, so half of that saving is offset by the higher cost of the Bosch to begin with That said, the Bosch is still a saving overall, and probably easier to detach from the fixed base than a router lifter, but I am slightly concerned about the long-term reliability of the Bosch fine adjuster whilst it's mounted under the table, it looks a bit weedy....
I bought that router a while back. Absolutely love it! I especially love the power being controlled via the trigger button on the handle! On the note of bushings, I ended up getting Bosch's bushing kit. I have had no issues with it. I was on the fence between that and your standard screw on bushings, but read from other people that while doing prolonged routing, the vibrations can unscrew bushings...Not sure if it's true or not, but in either case, I am happy with Bosch's version of just twist and locking it in. Very good in-depth video, Matt! Would love to see more tool videos like this!
I had a bushing screw nut thingy come loose once. It dulled the bit and chewed the hell out of the threads of the lock ring.
@@ThekiBoran Sorry to hear. I guess the threaded screw on bushings have their downsides for sure.
@@norm_olsen
It was my fault for not securing it properly. I've only had it happen once.
@@ThekiBoran thread locker
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No thanks.
I just got this one referbd. It's great but it's enormous! Modded it with a toggle and a fsr in the trigger so i can control the speed from that if i want. The way it fits in the hands is also a bit odd ergonomics wise so I may go all the way and make some fun custom handles at somepoint
Where did you buy it from refurbished and how much was it? The model seems to be discontinued throughout the world and Bosch has not introduced an updated model, they seem to have just given up on it...the Americans still have their 110v version but no luck for the 240v
Thanks man... I have been looking at this to buy and this is the best review I have found
great router , had mine a few years now , only downside is no motor brake or very slow one and the plastic extraction ports always break after regular use.
My dust extraction failed badly. First, the chips within minutes had made the acrylic too hard to see through, it was just milky grey. Then, to add insult to injury, the plastic just snapped off. That is, without abuse - it just snapped :-(. Other than that, this router truly is a very sweet machine.
Hi Matt, I’m more or less a beginner wood working hobbyist, if possible could you do a tutorial on routing in general using various router bits, the fence etc. Much appreciated. Loving your channel by the way. Better than US videos where you fall asleep
That’s exactly what I’m preparing for by filming these reviews beforehand. Keep an eye out! :)
Thank you for a detailed and clear review! I am a newbie and have a question about the router table mounting. You mentioned 2 options - either have the speed adjust dial facing you (how you have it currently mounted) or the lock mechanism and height adjust dial facing you (what you recommend). Is it possible to have the best of both by turning the base 90 degrees, such that the handle with the trigger is closer to you? Doesn't that provide fairly easy access to all the controls - speed dial on the right, locking mechanism on the left? Thanks again!
Love it. Great review. Fast paced and to the point. Got this router and truly enjoying it.
Excellent review Matt as always. Your insight and ability to deliver the information is fantastic. I always learn something new. Keep up the good work.
This review is really well done, Matt. I bought one of these a few years ago here in Canada - yes, also available in the colonies! It really is a great router. I wasn't even aware of all the cool features when I bought it but was pleased to discover the height adjustment feature in the fixed base for example. I still need to buy some of the accessories like the dust extraction. They are not included of course with the basic unit. Agree with you on the responsiveness of the trigger. It's not an issue once you're aware of it. Still, an excellent product and not too expensive either.
Great Review !
Thanks
Lovely bit of kit, but out of the price range of most hobbyist home gamers I'd have thought. The plunge locking lever is brilliant - all routers should be like this.
Isn't a round base better for running against a straight edge, because it can't pivot away from the edge (which a straight router base with corners can)?
Brilliant Video, Matt. Can you also do a comprehensive router guide. Hope, I'm not asking too much.
If Bosch fit this router with a removable power cable like Dewalt does with its top model, this router would be PERFECT. I own this router and I love it but I just got used to having a router with removable power cable. It would be nice if other companies besides Dewalt did this. Craftsman had a Pro model from before Stanley revived the brand with a removable cable and I also have that one and it’s a great feature.
I have the 1619, which is a plunge base only router. I has a lot of the same features, but there are some big improvements with the 1600. thanks.
Great video Matt. Very informative. could you possibly follow this up by showing us how to fit the various dust extractors included in the box and explain the different type of applications they are used for. There is also a guide bit adaptor, although l can't find anything online to use with my 30mm inlay kit. Admittedly it's a big beast for inlay work but it is possible. I regard this router as better than my Dewalt, Trend and Makita routers in several ways and it feels better ergonomically. I enjoy watching your videos, keep it up!
Hi, very thorough review thanks 👍. Just checked out the bush kit and adaptor, wow that’s a lot (£24.10} for the adaptor which looks like a piece of pressed metal especially when the bushing set is only £36.
Matt, just wanted to say thanks for the video and the nuts for the dust shroud are behind the inner tork screws holding the black fences on.
I've just about finished table mounting one of these using the Bosch Fixed Base. I absolutely love the router 'for the most part'. I especially like the micrometre height adjustment on the f8ixed and plunge bases which is calibrated in millimetres and appears to have no backlash. What I don't like is that you have to loosen the clamp on the fixed base to adjust the height, and the the clamp is so difficult to undo. So I'd welcome thoughts on this if anyone has made a tool to undo that clamp. I am also thinking the spindle lock button is not that easy to access when the router is table mounted. but I might rig up a solenoid to take care of this. It would not be straight forward as the router have to be in the upper most position for the solenoid to align, but it is doable. I think I measured the force need to push the button at 2lb.
Hello, amazing video and I bought one ☝️. I did read the Manual and I could not find the speed description of each number selected. Could you please tell me if you know?
Example:
1 = 10 000 rpm
2 = ? Rpm
3 = ? Rpm
4 = ? Rpm
5 = 25 000 rpm
Thank you 😊
This will be my next buy.
Do you need to use the clear acrylic base for mounting the motor on a router table, or can you just bolt the motor to the fixed base?
Fantastic review. Wish I could like it twice.
When using it in a router table all the weight of the motor is supported by a small circlip. If you over wind the fine adjuster you can if you are heavy handed dislodge the circlip and the motor drops. Not easy to find a small circlip amongst floor shavings.
What really bugs me is that Bosch Professional tools (and many others, such as DeWalt) are so much more expensive here in Europe than in the US. I know it's the market, and what about purchasing power yadda yadda yadda, but I still feel like I'm being ripped off.
We are.
We can't even get the high end Bosch Tools in Canada.
Which is funny since Bosch is a German brand...
VAT, 20% in the govs pockets.....
I was thinking this router was price hiked here in NZ, but it turns out to be the same price as you'd pay for in the UK. That's still expensive, and markedly so compared to say the Dewalt DW618, but we are buggered without 240V power grid. I've had a Triton TRA001 on order since last November (nearly six months) but there is absolutely no sign of them coming to NZ any time soon. So if I can get a couple of questions answered, I think I'll get this Bosch with a fixed base and forget about the Triton.
When using the router on the router table how does one control the on/off electrical power. Should there be a separate on/off switch mounted somewhere convenient?
I have been searching for the bushing adaptor - please can you add the link or give me a trade description - great video
Haha I just got this in the mail today, guess I made a good choice! Excited for the review!
Travis Buley how are you liking this router? I’m on the market and are eying this one. Thanks
Great review Matt. An impressive machine.
Great router but I can't find anywhere to purchase it with the fixed base for a router table. Is it still available? Thanks
The best review out there..... Thanks..
Hi Matt, I have a GMF 1600 CE and am thinking of fixing it to a router table. I believe the machine has a restart protection. Does this interfere when switching on and off? How is your set up? Thanks Brian
Hello Matt, I have purchased the bosch gmf 1600 ce router....hope thats right...and Im also purchasing the ujk table. Can you tell me do I need the collet extension if I was to be changing the router bit above the router table via insert lift. Im very very new to this routing business. Great videos Matt.
This is exactly the question I was looking through the comments for. Did you get one and can you change bits with it table mounted? What about with a cranked spanner and decent sized hole in the table insert plate? I would be eternally grateful if you can answer this. Thanks.
Hi Matt,
Great review video. Have you done a follow up one about the using the Bosch under the router table. I would be really interested in how you have found it. I’m trying to decide between the Bosch and Triton, as they both offer above table height adjustment.
Parabéns Matt, moro no Brasil e sou um entusiasta de marcenaria. Comprei essa Tupia ontem e estava procurando reviews sobre ela, quando achei seu canal do youtube. Muito bom o seu trabalho. Será que ela cabe na bancada de tupia Bosch RA 1181? Obrigado!
Thanks for a great video mate !
I have the same router set, but not the dust shroud for the fixbase.
Do you have any idea on what model-number it has, can’t seam to find it anywhere.
Thank you ! 😊😊👍🏼
It's hard to imagine needing anything more than the 1617evspk.
Being a 1 armed woodworker, I'm looking forward to the new 7¼ circ/track saw (25GCN) that debuts next month in the US. I like the idea of the track and circ saw design. But a one handed plunge feature sounds like a dream. But I'm not certain that the tool will be good over time.
The US Bosch gives us very little info on their tools. :(
About the table router. Am I being thick or you can just fix it with the locks to one side and the speed control to the other??? having a small angle to the fence you can even have the level adjuster near the fence.
Is the Bosch GMF 1600 compatible with the guide bushes of the Porter Cable 4216 dovetail jig?
Regarding the unresponsive trigger, the delay almost seems like a safety feature rather than a bug. For example, you release the trigger to be done with the cut, and accidentally press the trigger again for just a moment. If there's an intentional delay in response it might ignore that extra input. Granted, proper safety procedure would tell you to keep control of the tool until the spinning element has completely come to rest, but that doesn't always happen. I wonder what happens if you try feathering the trigger -- will it ignore the quick press/release inputs and continue spinning down?
EDIT: I've had the Bosch 1617 for a while now and quite like it. My biggest gripe, aside from the inconvenience of attaching/detaching dust shrouds, is the switch on the body. There's that moment where you turn the tool on with only one hand to control it, so the trigger-actuated switch on the MRC23 is very tempting.
I agree about the delay in the switch it could be a good thing!
When you mount it under the router table, do you reach for the trigger every time you turn it on? I wonder if there's a way to wire a permanent switch installed on the router table to override what.
My router table has an NVR switch that I can plug the router into. So I only have to turn it on once, then it’s all controlled from the switch
@@MattEstlea I thought the router will not turn on if it was plugged in while the trigger is already pulled back.
This one does. It’s often a safety feature on power tools with on/off switches that can accidentally be left on. However seeing as this is a sprung trigger, it’s quite difficult to accidentally leave it on. Unless you use the trigger lock of course.
@@MattEstlea OK I just tried it on mine, and no surprise you are correct. It does turn on when plugged in if the motor is in the base and trigger already pulled/locked. The safety feature kicks in if the motor is inserted into the base when it's powered and and the trigger on the base is pulled/locked.
Gosh I've been wrong about it all the time. I even bought a separate motor for the router table thinking the Bosch won't work well under the table with it's fancy trigger switch.
Great review really in depth and useful thanks.
Do you still like this router? I am thinking of getting it, but a lot of people have complained about it just failing to start or they had problems with the plunge base like being sticky and/or side to side wobble.
Are the base plate holes adaptable with 1617? I.e. can you use 1617 accessory plates? Great video, sir!