Working with lathes was something we did in school here in his age. Wouldn't mind my daughter using the one I have at work. If she just knew what she did. I think it is more scary with all unprotected chains, and how cramped it is and how hard they work. Very easy to fall and or bump into each other or just get tired and make scary mistakes.
Well, there are enough people out there waiting to do the job, I guess. Great unlce of mine lost 8 fingers in a hydraulic press back in the 50s or so. Still was able to hold a glass of beer. Always amazed me as a kid.
Goldenmath, I'm a mechanic and still cant understand, Do these slobs like working in filth on the floor, Is a broom too expensive or hard to use, They grubble around on the floor, Lets do everything the hard way, I have no respect for any of this,
@@stclairstclair ...I'm sure they are being paid by the piece... ...sweep the floor and you and your family don't eat tonight... ...don't make your quota and you're gone tomorrow...
Many of these companies see safety as a speed bump that they’d rather go around. It slows the workers down and it’s more expensive. A guy loses a hand, replace him. Sad but true.
greggy weggy, Jesus Christmas I had to go look up "conscience" I thought maybe you were butchering some word because my mind was going in a totally different direction, Ha ha! Answer: No they don't, But we put up with them because it's too damned easy, plus they have easy returns, God I'm pathetic..
@@BudFox559 it's amazing the equipment from then can last so long. The new computer controller stuff will be obsolete when the computer is considered outdated. The old stuff can never be outdated when a man can run it.
@@Zak-nv1tl what are you talking about? I'm talking about machines that are probably older than you. You must be talking about American machine shops that are almost out of business if you are in a shop with 80 year old machinery.
This is a good example of you get what you pay for! Surely the sprockets are made good enough to do their job, but due to lack of quality control and the scrap metal material sometimes you will get a sprocket that wears really fast or breaks.
Erik I'm guessing these are mostly for the local market over there. The motor bike market is staggering in size in Asia/India. I reckon these guys could turn a sow's ear into a silk purse!
@@SMHman666 No, they're turning a sow's ear into a rough pigskin bag. The milling operation appears to be the only part that's consistent. Otherwise, quality control there is non-existent.
I worked most of my life in places worse than this, honestly I was enjoying what I was doing. We worked together, we eat together, and listen to each other. These men have only one purpose to live, take care of their family.
Some good old machines I may have worked on many years ago in the UK, COLCHESTER LATHE and CINCINATI Milling machine still being put to good use in your country, well done you guys. I like they auto feed system you got going on the Cincinnati mill.- Thanks for the video -- Ian --UK.
I wish I had a pound for every Colchester hydraulic manifold I'd wired in my apprenticeship! _ oh wait, they paid me seven! I was at Rexroth, was joined by a guy from Cincinatti (Biggleswade) when they closed. I had a look when he popped in for his very last xmas bonus - a turkey and red wine. Never seen a machineshop like it, rows of mills and lathes everywhere (and 20 traps in the loo!).
All the dead lathes, drills, millings, cnc, grinders, are imported from uk and then they are repaired to sell again. I bought a 1975 pentograph Machines last year and its still working very nice.
foot pedals should never be allowed on a punch press. Two hand buttons set apart so both hands are needed to engage press is the only safe way. I hate seeing this. If he gets hurt, they will clean it up and put a new man on it tomorrow.
And these are the conditions that big business would have everyone working under. This is why off shore manufacture appeals to business because safety for workers costs profit.
I’m both amazed and saddened by this video. I can only imagine this was the the working conditions pre-union in America and abroad. I’m a Journeyman toolmaker, I’m familiar with every step of this process and it’s eye opening to see KIDS doing this work. I hope the company will do better with protection for their workers (yeah right)
@@hanksCorner7011 the kids should be getting education, then learn a skill later on. Yes I understand it’s sometimes needed for the kids to pitch in. It’s almost as if the whole system is working against them
Criticizes children's works. And you thought that thanks to this job, he is not starving? I wouldn't be surprised if he would also feed his siblings. You can only get out of poverty with work. This is a very hard-working nation, and it is pushing forward, at this pace it will soon overtake the world.
Third world countries are very different, mainly in culture. There are clear differences between tribal and civilization cultures. tribal cultures have no national identity and no pressure to build a state, making each tribe compete with each other, and the dominant law is the law of the stronger. India is a culture of civilization, it has the longest history in this aspect, unlike the countries of the Middle East and Africa. There are, of course, exceptions: Iran, Syria, and Turkey. But the United Arab Emirates only hold together thanks to centralized wealth in the royal family.
Awesome video. I love to see all the old British and American machines still working hard for a living after maybe 60 years of services. That chap putting the slots in the sprockets was amazing - just doing it by eye I think - too fast to see properly. Horizontal milling machines still have so many uses but you hardly see them any more. I have a lovely Elliott Sturdimill which is a universal machine.
Now you know why pattern parts don’t fit as well as OEM, and if the last guy gets a bit of the wire wheel in his eyes there’s plenty more people behind him who want to take the risk
@@JSAFIXIT They use whatever strength steel those recycled plates are, but commonly from a shipyard salvage. And to be fair those "can" actually be quite good ! Most ships are built using high-strength steel, especially the hull plating.
I understand, people are at their own risk, they are brave, no gloove,no respiratory protective mask, no protective boots, but at least the protective lens when grinding wire brush is used...
Там первый чувак не с того бока стоял. Дальше когда показывают когда собирают под станком, там видно что педаль жмут левой ногой с другой стороны станка.
@@sergateway Hard to believe I worked at a mass production automotive parts/machining plant in Columbus GA in the early 90's. They had 6-8 Cincinatti's running 24/7 trying to keep up with modern CNC's. I was told that they came off old WW2 Navy ships. The machines worked OK but the the tooling was always needing maintenance but the mills kept a rolling! Hardly anything is made in America anymore. Almost all the CNC's we had were made in Japan at the time. Mazak & Mori Seiki.
I went here to write the same comment. I have seen a lot of these videos, but the combination of some seams and paint gave me the same thought of ship scrapping.
That good old Made in America (Cincinnati) equipment has got to be 75 years old and will last for 75 more as long as the keep grease on it. Let's see the Chinese build equipment that lasts that long.
OSHA would have a shit fit. Also noticed that all of the cutting machines were made in the United States of America. Shipped over there when we gave up on US 😊😊
No the 4th generation inherited this from their grandparents. The grandkids went to college. Remember that saying who died and left you in charge? Well as soon as they gotten charged they sold the business . All they care about is money not the family name.
Станкам лет 90, где-то вот так до сих пор как Ижмаш работают, только вечно в начале начал, здания даже нет, и там так везде, на корточках сидишь и производишь
в росии путин большие заводы порозваливал и станков там нет( а эти порни как при сср -- все знают свою роботу в нас даже к жыгули нет нормальных запчастей, неговоря про мото иж)
the kid looks to be above 16. which I think is legal for him to be employed is this Indian state. but yes the safety inspector will probably have a field day in this workshop. :D
Quite a testament to the durability of American manufacturing equipment of the past that it's still running despite the horrendous conditions and lack of proper maintenance.
Oui la commande numérique n'a pas toujours existee et n'existe pas pour tout le monde. En plus question sécurité ce n'est loin d'être d'actualité. Pour le résultat final,c'est au top quand même.
When they discover the wheel and carts and tables, they will start to turn a real profit. Why toss these on the floor? Anyway, interesting to see the re-purposing of broken ships and the classic old USA Cincinnati mill. Wonder how that got there!
It even has an automatic indexer, much easier than the old one I ran. Those things run forever, somehow Cincinnati machines made it all over the world. 🇺🇸. There sure is a lot of wasted effort in that shop.
I know the Brits bought shiploads of American made Cincinnati machines around the WW2 time frame. Then the Cincinnati was bought by an Indian company, so probably from there.
Todo mi respeto a estos trabajadores, que cumplen con su trabajo en condiciones que pocos aceptarían; se nota que tienen conocimientos y experiencia, encima trabajan con máquina obsoletas, piezas de museo como quién diría. No me quiero imaginar lo que esta gente sería capaz de hacer con máquinas nuevas.
Y con materiales de reciclaje. Esas laminas de acero que utilizan para hacer eso son sacadas de camiones volteos, tanques, silos, plataformas, etc que desmantelan y recuperan el material. Solo falto el tratamiento termico de los dientes, asi como se ve no deben durar mucho.
Que no se romantice la pobreza y la precarización del trabajo. Me imagino que las piezas fabricadas aquí son las que uno encuentra luego asquerosamente baratas por internet. Para pensar señoras y señores
As a machinst, (NZ)I am shocked, and don't know what to start with... Scrap steel, of unknown composition??? Luck of the draw for the buyer of one of these sprockets. Milling the teeth on the old Cincinatti ( have worked those machines) looked like the coolant was basically water, no soluble oil ) Wonder how often they have to sharpen the cutters? Any oil used on the beds of those lathes? The guy doing the counter bores, why bend over all day, when the machine could be raised up? No ear plugs, no safety glasses, long sleeves... and using a wire wheel on the floor, to clean up the plates, why is it not on a pedestal? And who would use a wire wheel without safety glasses?!!!!!!!! That would be one tough place to work. Bet they don't stop for smoko every couple of hours.
Amazing & Quite satisfying to watch these guys work! They bust their asses off and somehow maintain those old ass presses, shears & dies✊🏼 either which way, great work gentlemen!
Working safely means more than guards that stop idiots putting their fingers into danger, it means thinking, and looking at their workmates with assorted parts missing to keep reminding them.
@@Mentorcase Guards and safety mechanisms can prevent any injury. In western countries they have 2 buttons on presses, one for each hand, that you have to hold to have the machine work. That way your hands can never be nearby the cutting part. Such solution costs nothing to implement, and people arguing that safety is stupid, have no brains to realize what they are saying. Only after they have a finger chopped off they realize what safety means.
@@Mentorcase It also means wearing safety glasses and appropriate footwear in a machine shop. I don't care how smart and attentive you are; it is a terrible idea to wear jewelry and long sleeves while you're on a lathe.
Astonshing! I will never complain about my working conditions ever again. I hope the owner of this busniess is truly generous to his people. From the look of the coolant, color, vapor and beading. It looks like anitifreeze, ethylene glycol is toxic. It prevents rust but is not so good as proper machine tool coolant. And gallon to gallon cost not that expensive. It is much safer, works much better for tool life for a return on the investment in many ways. Please,if no other change - get some eye protection! Anthing, old pair of glasses, plastic sheet on a headband... your sight - irreplaceable, priceless! You cannot provide for your family if you cannot see. Don't be foolish.
We ones worked like this in 1930 or so. We end up with cnc machines. New workers fress from school don't know how to use a conventional milling or latche.
Muncul diberanda langsung nonton, kalau dilihat hampir sama cara kerjanya dengan orang Indonesia, mana penonton dari Indonesia absen dulu... 👍🏼😅 Semangat kerjanya warga vrindavan cari rezeki halal buat keluarga
The first place I worked in was a pipe factory I was 19. It didn't look much different than that. Some of the mills in the maintenance department had cast iron Muncie 4 speeds on them, everything was covered in oil, with absorbent on the floor. No heating or cooling and the walls were corrugated sheet metal. I was glad to have the job.
That bit where they are tightening the sprocket blanks on lathe way beds is the icing on the cake. Not only is there no concern for the safety of humans, there is no concern for the equipment either. You can't just "fix" lathe ways. You can't just "fix" hurt humans. All that said, I'm constantly amazed at the output - they find a way and they optimise that way. Sure this isn't okay in developed countries, but the fact they can and have done this shows determination and hard work.
Safety wear: zero. 5S: nope. Child labour: yup. Building code: never heard of. Cheap endproduct: yes. Quality: no. TÜV..... never mind. It is unbelievable that this still exists in the 21st century.
The concerning part is the owners of these businesses take their families and their wealth to richer countries, buy everything up and no one seems to want to know about how they get their wealth.
I've met owners of similar shops and they are usually working on the machines themselves and most aren't wealthy, owning a machinist shop in the west might be big money but in third world countries that's not always the case.
Using a wire wheel with no eye protection and sitting directly in front of the plane of rotation. Have fun digging those little needles out of your eye when they get thrown.
We have it so good here in Canada. I’m disturbed to see that young boy who is probably roughly same age as my grandson working on a lathe with no safety glasses and leaving the key in the chuck which is a no no in any shop. videos like this show us why we have cheap bikes!!
@@danielelliott3659 theyre MASSIVE. Real old iron is just something else. I had a K&T I bought in Michigan relatively sight unseen when I first got into machining. Lets just say it wasnt about to fit in my garage 😂
Every now and then I watch these for a dose of reality and normalcy. Watching these hard workers calls me on and helps to rid myself of laziness. Thank you hard workers!
To me the scariest thing was that immense pile of carbon steel chips near the drill press at the end. Never mind that stuff cutting flesh to ribbons it can also conduct a spark better than you’d wish.
Какая термичка ст3??? Ты в своём уме? Термичка со ст4 начинается. Да и с чего ты взял, что там ст3? Это дверь от гаража какая-то. Там всё что угодно могло быть.
@@ваняпупкин-з2р Мот китайский есть, и ведомое не пластилин. Хотя по любому попроще, чем ведущее. В тюнинговых дюраль непростая и ресурс небольшой. Только для мира спорта
Waaaooo!!! DIOS BENDIGA a éstas personas trabajadoras,, gracias a ellas, hace 4 días, compré el juego de Catalina y cadena de mí motor cg200.... Saludos desde República Dominicana.
Самая долгая последняя операция - шлифовка, можно заменить на галтовку. В горизонтальный гранёный барабан с люком засыпают детали и куски битого абразивного шлифовального круга, много кусков, но и оставляют 40% свободного пространства, закрывают люк, включают привод барабана на 1 час, после открывают люк и достают детали. Механизированный труд, и за один заход можно обработать много деталей.
12:50 holy toe gap!!! You can fit another toe in between. These guys never give up their sandals. Even in a work environment with sharp metal pieces everywhere.
If you are cutting “softer” materials, e.g. 2024-t3 alumin(i)um, then a self-made cutter of high carbon steel may suffice for modest numbers. It will need to run slowly, with ample cooling and cutting lubricants, but it will cut these softer metals. The idea of cutting my own sprockets on the mill *is* intriguing…
@@dennisyoung4631 we need x40 for steel processing, we have a Latvian milling machine of 1951 in mind. I think to take him under intensive care, asterisks are needed in large quantities
@Hugh Jaanus aluminum sprockets are typically hard anodized. The very thin layer on the top is harder than case hardened steel! As soon as that microscopic layer is worn through, it wears like crazy
I've worked in steelworks all my life and I've never seen such dangerous and life threatening conditions..kid's working with lathes..PURE MADNESS!!
Working with lathes was something we did in school here in his age.
Wouldn't mind my daughter using the one I have at work. If she just knew what she did.
I think it is more scary with all unprotected chains, and how cramped it is and how hard they work. Very easy to fall and or bump into each other or just get tired and make scary mistakes.
Also, the grinding wheel at the end that forces the operator to stay in its plane with e.g. no eye protection.
This is pakistan . A safe country
Well, there are enough people out there waiting to do the job, I guess.
Great unlce of mine lost 8 fingers in a hydraulic press back in the 50s or so. Still was able to hold a glass of beer. Always amazed me as a kid.
That's why we're bringing more Pakistanis and Afghans to the United states
As a lifelong machinist, it makes me sad this is the reality of the world we live in
Much respect to these guys ,hope life gets better for you
At least get the wire wheel guy some damn safety glasses hahaha
Goldenmath, I'm a mechanic and still cant understand, Do these slobs like working in filth on the floor,
Is a broom too expensive or hard to use, They grubble around on the floor, Lets do everything the hard way, I have no respect for any of this,
@@stclairstclair ...I'm sure they are being paid by the piece...
...sweep the floor and you and your family don't eat tonight...
...don't make your quota and you're gone tomorrow...
Many of these companies see safety as a speed bump that they’d rather go around. It slows the workers down and it’s more expensive. A guy loses a hand, replace him. Sad but true.
What do you expect from this country.
Finally, I get to see exactly how my Amazon products are made!
Surely not, I mean Amazon must have some form of conscience ?
greggy weggy, Jesus Christmas I had to go look up "conscience"
I thought maybe you were butchering some word because my mind was going in a totally different direction, Ha ha!
Answer: No they don't, But we put up with them because it's too damned easy, plus they have easy returns, God I'm pathetic..
@@stclairstclair yup . 100,000,000% pathetic .
David Haney, U Mad?
Naw that's china's job. These guys products looks non slave n sweat.
I love how they keep their workshop spotless! Less chance of tripping over stuff, plus a tidy environment is more mentally pleasing.
Did we watch the same video?
@@davidscottblacksmith Sarcasm.
And no loose clothing either ! Top notch :)
And even the kid is good and professional. With that kind of efficiency shop can save on eye protection glasses too!
@@JohnSmith-hn6kv more of irony than sarcasm
Nice to see American machines still doing their job decades after they were pulled from American manufacturing companies.
Yeah I noticed the horizontal mill was a Cincinnati just like the ones I used in the late 70s
@@BudFox559 it's amazing the equipment from then can last so long. The new computer controller stuff will be obsolete when the computer is considered outdated. The old stuff can never be outdated when a man can run it.
@@bwma Not really. Retrofitting a modern DRO, CNC drive unit, etc is pretty common.
@@bwma that’s completely not true. You haven’t been in a machine shop if you think that.
@@Zak-nv1tl what are you talking about? I'm talking about machines that are probably older than you. You must be talking about American machine shops that are almost out of business if you are in a shop with 80 year old machinery.
this people are amazing workers.
0 industrial security, no boots, no glasses, no gloves.
JUST BALLS!
This is a good example of you get what you pay for! Surely the sprockets are made good enough to do their job, but due to lack of quality control and the scrap metal material sometimes you will get a sprocket that wears really fast or breaks.
Materials
Tolerances
Quality control
Throw that out the window and send it!
This is what you get.
Erik I'm guessing these are mostly for the local market over there. The motor bike market is staggering in size in Asia/India. I reckon these guys could turn a sow's ear into a silk purse!
@@SMHman666 No, they're turning a sow's ear into a rough pigskin bag. The milling operation appears to be the only part that's consistent. Otherwise, quality control there is non-existent.
hardening not done am i ??
@@tekkey1913 thank you, no hardening of the teeth or tempering
ormalizing for the scrap steel they use.
I worked most of my life in places worse than this, honestly I was enjoying what I was doing. We worked together, we eat together, and listen to each other. These men have only one purpose to live, take care of their family.
Some of those “men” should be in primary school. Honourable work, done well with pride no doubt, but child labour is child labour
@@timbray1814 Yes. There was litterly a child running a lathe alone.
@@TheTrex600ESP Don't worry. The kid has 5 years experience on that lathe...
@@scratchbuiltdesigns I bet he has.
realtalk buddy, i can relate with that
Must be from Pakistan, my salute to these brave men who risk their lives for their families... 👍👍👍
Though this is from Pakistan, Ludhiana in India is not much different. Very innovative people there as well.
Amazing what can be achieved with scrap steel, no child labour laws and absolutely no safety measures.
The laws are there, just not implied.
@@musawarrashid3018 Liar,
All these Safety first complaints.
Big difference between this skilled workforce and the Incompetence of UK workers!!
@@statementleaver8095 hahaha thats not a skilled workforce
"Cause those parts are going to be completely reliable.... NOT.
That steel looks straight off the ship breaking yard. God bless ‘em
U r right
I had the exact same thought
its actually the same steel they would have used anyway so why not.
@@muzaffarali3874
ghjhu
Oh! That’s what that is!
Работать на производстве - это тяжкий труд!Огромное вам уважение!👍
Nice
Some good old machines I may have worked on many years ago in the UK, COLCHESTER LATHE and CINCINATI Milling machine still being put to good use in your country, well done you guys. I like they auto feed system you got going on the Cincinnati mill.- Thanks for the video -- Ian --UK.
I wish I had a pound for every Colchester hydraulic manifold I'd wired in my apprenticeship! _ oh wait, they paid me seven!
I was at Rexroth, was joined by a guy from Cincinatti (Biggleswade) when they closed. I had a look when he popped in for his very last xmas bonus - a turkey and red wine. Never seen a machineshop like it, rows of mills and lathes everywhere (and 20 traps in the loo!).
All the dead lathes, drills, millings, cnc, grinders, are imported from uk and then they are repaired to sell again. I bought a 1975 pentograph Machines last year and its still working very nice.
Pakistan takes recycling to the next level.
foot pedals should never be allowed on a punch press. Two hand buttons set apart so both hands are needed to engage press is the only safe way. I hate seeing this. If he gets hurt, they will clean it up and put a new man on it tomorrow.
Tomorrow? They will replace him the same day
Clean it up? Hah
I worked 9 years on a paper guillotine and it was a two hand press to operate it unless in automatic mode which was useless.
Dan
میرے آقا ﷺْ کی آخری نصیحت مبارکہ یہ تھی
"میری اُمت نماز نہ چھوڑنا"
اللہ ہم سب کو پانچ وقت کا نمازی بنائے۔ آمین
💗💗💗💗💗💗۔..۔
This is how your Harly Davidson parts are made.
Lol you’re right
When Harley was made in America, not any more
@@joecrowe7062 royal enfields i think .. they built the bike in india
The metal in those sprockets were better quality.
Little do ya know, Harleys are belt drive 9/10 times, so they don't use these kind of sprockets
Этим парням некогда сидеть в тик токе или инстаграмм...у парней настоящая работа..молодцы
Не могут работать головой - будут работать руками. А я в ютубе посмотрю на этот цирк.
С такимитрудягами они нас через три года по имеют. Китай уже ПОИМЕЛ!
А ты так ибудеш сидеть в инете
@@КонстантинКустов-м4ш китай только вас поимел по экономике..а по вооружению ему до вас далеко
Зато у них рождаемость высокая, потому работают семью кормят
Dudes wearing sandals is insane. Anyone who’s every been around a machine shop knows how bad of an idea that can be. They work so hard for so little.
No eyeglasses around flying metal swarf either. Nary a glove in sight. Reminds me of my first job
Wearing long sleeve shirt is a hazardous.
Ведомые звезды для божественной Альфы и её клонов
Посчитать тонно*километры и альфа окажется мировым лидером
Баджаджи...
Сталь "пластилин-2"
Mad respect to those workers really wish the conditions were better for them.
And these are the conditions that big business would have everyone working under. This is why off shore manufacture appeals to business because safety for workers costs profit.
На этих станках ещё капитан Немо строил свой Наутилус😀
Love from Pakistan
Respect the hard work people around the world. God blessed you all.
I’m both amazed and saddened by this video.
I can only imagine this was the the working conditions pre-union in America and abroad.
I’m a Journeyman toolmaker, I’m familiar with every step of this process and it’s eye opening to see KIDS doing this work.
I hope the company will do better with protection for their workers (yeah right)
@@hanksCorner7011 the kids should be getting education, then learn a skill later on. Yes I understand it’s sometimes needed for the kids to pitch in.
It’s almost as if the whole system is working against them
Was same in Europe in 1800.. It’s 2021 in the whole world. At the moment a single machine can do all that work faster and better.
Dont be sad, they are making good money and low overhead exporting directly.
Where are the kids?
This is probably in Detroit
The level of respect I have for these guys is INFINITE!
BTW: 1:46 There is a missing step in the process. The discs are now clean.
So do I ! They work with so olds machines and the results is like they have worked with modern machines....
@@istaff124 how do you think things were produced before?
@@istaff124 those old machines were likely imported from closed down factories and shops in North America and the UK
Falta fazer a têmpera para endurecer o material, assim a peça desgasta rapidamente.
@@davedarling6512 they had to have been. That’s a Cincinnati mill he’s cutting the teeth with.
It's awesome how UA-cam is against the dislike button, but doesn't mind child labour videos 👍
Criticizes children's works. And you thought that thanks to this job, he is not starving? I wouldn't be surprised if he would also feed his siblings. You can only get out of poverty with work. This is a very hard-working nation, and it is pushing forward, at this pace it will soon overtake the world.
3rd world countries man, especially if this family business.
Third world countries are very different, mainly in culture. There are clear differences between tribal and civilization cultures. tribal cultures have no national identity and no pressure to build a state, making each tribe compete with each other, and the dominant law is the law of the stronger. India is a culture of civilization, it has the longest history in this aspect, unlike the countries of the Middle East and Africa. There are, of course, exceptions: Iran, Syria, and Turkey. But the United Arab Emirates only hold together thanks to centralized wealth in the royal family.
School is worse...
@@VoltZero83 It's still child labor. Justifying it doesn't change facts.
Awesome video. I love to see all the old British and American machines still working hard for a living after maybe 60 years of services. That chap putting the slots in the sprockets was amazing - just doing it by eye I think - too fast to see properly. Horizontal milling machines still have so many uses but you hardly see them any more. I have a lovely Elliott Sturdimill which is a universal machine.
Now you know why pattern parts don’t fit as well as OEM, and if the last guy gets a bit of the wire wheel in his eyes there’s plenty more people behind him who want to take the risk
There is also the issue of not knowing what type of steel its made from.
I've worked in shops rhe US that are pretty much the same crap holes with very little process control.
@@JSAFIXIT They use whatever strength steel those recycled plates are, but commonly from a shipyard salvage. And to be fair those "can" actually be quite good ! Most ships are built using high-strength steel, especially the hull plating.
@@JSAFIXIT simplemente se lleva a templar y problema resuelto, si no manda hacer piezas personalizadas.
@@theupscriber65 LOL i highly doubt that.
An OSHA inspector would die of a heart attack if he ever walked into that place
Probably why we don't actually make anything these days.
True, lots of hazrds are present all over the work area. Even the PPE of the workers are not suitable enough and not properly observed.
I understand, people are at their own risk, they are brave, no gloove,no respiratory protective mask, no protective boots, but at least the protective lens when grinding wire brush is used...
Thats the beauty of trusting their machines and skills. Protections can make the work inconvenient.
😄😄😄😄😄
I’m going to assume the days since last accident sign just stays at 0 forever. Those workers deserve better
🤣🤣
Все работают без очков, наверное в соседнем цеху производят запасные глаза 👀 👆🏻
J U2
Да, сразу за цехом с запасными пальцами.
@@I80gor, с запасными индусами.
Да там и стены вываливаются, и пол народа в сланцах гоняют. Люди- расходники
@@zaiabivatel а не паки ли это?
педаль у пресса в начале в очень удобном месте
Там первый чувак не с того бока стоял. Дальше когда показывают когда собирают под станком, там видно что педаль жмут левой ногой с другой стороны станка.
Должно работать 2 человека. Но и один справляется.
Там раньше работал чувак с длинными ногами и в стиле Вандама в шпагате на двух грузовиках Volvo.
Amazing work done by hand. They were using a USA Cincinnati mill form probably the 1940's to cut the sprocket teeth.
The shit-cinnatis.
Pretty cool stuff I used to be a machinist until covid happened this is pretty cool to watch
@@sergateway Hard to believe I worked at a mass production automotive parts/machining plant in Columbus GA in the early 90's. They had 6-8 Cincinatti's running 24/7 trying to keep up with modern CNC's. I was told that they came off old WW2 Navy ships. The machines worked OK but the the tooling was always needing maintenance but the mills kept a rolling!
Hardly anything is made in America anymore. Almost all the CNC's we had were made in Japan at the time. Mazak & Mori Seiki.
@@anthonyrichard461 we had one with a double turret and we could only get one to work. Fucking G codes on that thing
Now you know where those old ships go!
I went here to write the same comment. I have seen a lot of these videos, but the combination of some seams and paint gave me the same thought of ship scrapping.
Dogui
@@RusakovLA me too
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Yep, after making chamfer, you still can see shipboard curvature - so this chamfer has a different depth around the sprocket.
That good old Made in America (Cincinnati) equipment has got to be 75 years old and will last for 75 more as long as the keep grease on it.
Let's see the Chinese build equipment that lasts that long.
Так вот оказывается, почему приходится раз в два месяца звёздочки на своей технике менять.
OSHA would have a shit fit.
Also noticed that all of the cutting machines were made in the United States of America. Shipped over there when we gave up on US 😊😊
You gave up on the USA when you stopped making these machines.
Probably machines shipped over on our old ships and they even scrapped our ships to make parts for motorcyles.
No the 4th generation inherited this from their grandparents. The grandkids went to college. Remember that saying who died and left you in charge? Well as soon as they gotten charged they sold the business . All they care about is money not the family name.
Станкам лет 90, где-то вот так до сих пор как Ижмаш работают, только вечно в начале начал, здания даже нет, и там так везде, на корточках сидишь и производишь
в росии путин большие заводы порозваливал и станков там нет(
а эти порни как при сср -- все знают свою роботу
в нас даже к жыгули нет нормальных запчастей, неговоря про мото иж)
the kid looks to be above 16. which I think is legal for him to be employed is this Indian state. but yes the safety inspector will probably have a field day in this workshop. :D
Техника безопастности на высоте!
Как и вопрос к качеству метала, возможно марки пластилин
да там все пи...ц... матерьял вообще по ходу рандомно берут, хрен пойми откуда, короче какая та помойка, а не производственная линия
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@@Omicami 8
Хоть бы какую-то закалку прошли... А так металл с чермета....и это на заднее колесо мопеда...
Молодцы ! Если бы была польза от космоса они были бы первыми там ! Диву даюсь ихней находчивости .
Ну да высокие технологии, да и производство на высоком уровне.
Парням не хватает плоской шлифовки
А еще удивил подросток на токарке
Присмотритесь как он использует отсутствие фрикциона или тормаза
@@dad3842 Незнайка на луне ШЕДЕВР Блокбастер
Quite a testament to the durability of American manufacturing equipment of the past that it's still running despite the horrendous conditions and lack of proper maintenance.
That steel plate was the side of a cruise ship last week.
I myself was just wondering if they get their metal from the shipbreaking yards
Best use for a cruise ship i can think of..lol
Молодцы огонь!!! Привет из России 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
Oui la commande numérique n'a pas toujours existee et n'existe pas pour tout le monde.
En plus question sécurité ce n'est loin d'être d'actualité.
Pour le résultat final,c'est au top quand même.
Почему не босиком работают
crazy to see tools made in my city all the way around the world still working hard
Nice
All my respects for this workers!
When they discover the wheel and carts and tables, they will start to turn a real profit. Why toss these on the floor? Anyway, interesting to see the re-purposing of broken ships and the classic old USA Cincinnati mill. Wonder how that got there!
It even has an automatic indexer, much easier than the old one I ran. Those things run forever, somehow Cincinnati machines made it all over the world. 🇺🇸. There sure is a lot of wasted effort in that shop.
I know the Brits bought shiploads of American made Cincinnati machines around the WW2 time frame. Then the Cincinnati was bought by an Indian company, so probably from there.
the drill press on the floor so the guy has to bend over to use it? I guess laborers are cheap.
@@AffordBindEquipment the guy on the bench grinder with the wire wheel at the end looks like a pretty painful job too.
Conveyor belts and organized, flowing process. My uncle used to come in and fix these 3rd world messes
nice work fellas...1950's machines looking fine.hard days effort.
So, this is where old Cincinnati horizontal mills spend the rest of their days.
I was thinking the same thing. That old American stuff seems to lives on and on.
It's like machine hell.
It's really nice to see people working in safe environments.....
🤣 comment of the month bro...
Звёзды из низкокачественного металла- это прям качество 😂
Сколько же их получится из моих старых гаражных ворот?!🤔😂
Да нормальные звезды)) на сезон 2 штук хватает))))
Todo mi respeto a estos trabajadores, que cumplen con su trabajo en condiciones que pocos aceptarían; se nota que tienen conocimientos y experiencia, encima trabajan con máquina obsoletas, piezas de museo como quién diría.
No me quiero imaginar lo que esta gente sería capaz de hacer con máquinas nuevas.
Y con materiales de reciclaje.
Esas laminas de acero que utilizan para hacer eso son sacadas de camiones volteos, tanques, silos, plataformas, etc que desmantelan y recuperan el material.
Solo falto el tratamiento termico de los dientes, asi como se ve no deben durar mucho.
Harian magia
Que no se romantice la pobreza y la precarización del trabajo. Me imagino que las piezas fabricadas aquí son las que uno encuentra luego asquerosamente baratas por internet. Para pensar señoras y señores
Honda's state of the art production facility👍
😁
Hard to believe machines like this can still work after looking like they haven’t been cleaned and maintained for the past 30 years 😂
Yeah, and my damn car that's 5 years old that I baby has problems.
you can see the main components seem in good care.
As a machinst, (NZ)I am shocked, and don't know what to start with...
Scrap steel, of unknown composition??? Luck of the draw for the buyer of one of these sprockets.
Milling the teeth on the old Cincinatti ( have worked those machines) looked like the coolant was basically water, no soluble oil ) Wonder how often they have to sharpen the cutters?
Any oil used on the beds of those lathes?
The guy doing the counter bores, why bend over all day, when the machine could be raised up?
No ear plugs, no safety glasses, long sleeves... and using a wire wheel on the floor, to clean up the plates, why is it not on a pedestal? And who would use a wire wheel without safety glasses?!!!!!!!!
That would be one tough place to work. Bet they don't stop for smoko every couple of hours.
No safety glasses or equipment JS
You just pop over there and shout them all that expensive equipment.. I'm sure they'd be grateful.. 😁
@@kemshead sorry mate can't travel right now covid lock down. Soon maybe
All cultures are equal.
@@kennyg1358 Not knocking their culture mate, just their safety, and engineering standards.
Straight forward case of health and safety gone home. Loved it though.
Amazing & Quite satisfying to watch these guys work! They bust their asses off and somehow maintain those old ass presses, shears & dies✊🏼 either which way, great work gentlemen!
Mass production on a lathe is a dangerous job 1 second of not paying attention. Notice the left arm shirt of the man working one . No joke
That’s nice to see they’re working safely
Working safely means more than guards that stop idiots putting their fingers into danger, it means thinking, and looking at their workmates with assorted parts missing to keep reminding them.
@@Mentorcase ！ ！，
@@Mentorcase Guards and safety mechanisms can prevent any injury. In western countries they have 2 buttons on presses, one for each hand, that you have to hold to have the machine work. That way your hands can never be nearby the cutting part. Such solution costs nothing to implement, and people arguing that safety is stupid, have no brains to realize what they are saying. Only after they have a finger chopped off they realize what safety means.
6'S
@@Mentorcase It also means wearing safety glasses and appropriate footwear in a machine shop. I don't care how smart and attentive you are; it is a terrible idea to wear jewelry and long sleeves while you're on a lathe.
The masters of steel, great job guys
Trabalho insalubre tem até crianças no meio dessas máquinas, trabalho incrível mas muito precário ..
Язык мольчит, руки делают, каждый мастера своего ремесла
Pakistan got really talent when they put their mind on something..
Astonshing! I will never complain about my working conditions ever again. I hope the owner of this busniess is truly generous to his people.
From the look of the coolant, color, vapor and beading. It looks like anitifreeze, ethylene glycol is toxic. It prevents rust but is not so good as proper machine tool coolant. And gallon to gallon cost not that expensive. It is much safer, works much better for tool life for a return on the investment in many ways.
Please,if no other change - get some eye protection! Anthing, old pair of glasses, plastic sheet on a headband... your sight - irreplaceable, priceless!
You cannot provide for your family if you cannot see. Don't be foolish.
Makes you appreciate what you have, right? I hope they see your comment, and at least think of implementing the measures you mentioned
Verdade mesmo ao menos para os olhos 🇵🇹
Meu Deus tanta falta de proteção e tanto trabalho eu nunca trabalhei uma sentezima parte dessa jente
We use car antifreeze in machine shops in PA all the time. The owners don't care, one light bulb burns out screw another in (employees)
@@moparone7962 I cannot comprehend that mindset.
I like how those old American made Cincinnati horizontals are STILL putting in work.
Those machines will never wear out
14 minutes without an accident? Incredible!
more like centuries
There are 2 rules not to ignore when operating a lathe.
#1 Glasses
#2 No loose (long sleeve) clothing.
Every lathe operator in this video is like 😎
We ones worked like this in 1930 or so. We end up with cnc machines. New workers fress from school don't know how to use a conventional milling or latche.
@@Dutchamp I could turn it around and say you old time manual guys wouldn't understand G Code
Crazy but love it. I can see tones of productivity and safety improvements though;). No one have protective eye glasses or gloves. Amazing!
They do have gloves
Muncul diberanda langsung nonton, kalau dilihat hampir sama cara kerjanya dengan orang Indonesia, mana penonton dari Indonesia absen dulu... 👍🏼😅
Semangat kerjanya warga vrindavan cari rezeki halal buat keluarga
Жду видео где они айфоны клепают 😂
Love those safety sneakers
Brave mechanics team, great job but no any PPE, no hurts, no injury no blood that is excellent system!
А потом звёздочки на сезон покататься на мотоцикле не хватает потому что сделано с металлолома.
Какие бабки такие и тапки.
так наверное просто закалку не тут делают.
The first place I worked in was a pipe factory I was 19. It didn't look much different than that. Some of the mills in the maintenance department had cast iron Muncie 4 speeds on them, everything was covered in oil, with absorbent on the floor. No heating or cooling and the walls were corrugated sheet metal. I was glad to have the job.
Beers don't buy themselves.
That bit where they are tightening the sprocket blanks on lathe way beds is the icing on the cake. Not only is there no concern for the safety of humans, there is no concern for the equipment either. You can't just "fix" lathe ways. You can't just "fix" hurt humans.
All that said, I'm constantly amazed at the output - they find a way and they optimise that way. Sure this isn't okay in developed countries, but the fact they can and have done this shows determination and hard work.
Safety wear: zero. 5S: nope. Child labour: yup. Building code: never heard of. Cheap endproduct: yes. Quality: no. TÜV..... never mind. It is unbelievable that this still exists in the 21st century.
Don’t forget housekeeping
The concerning part is the owners of these businesses take their families and their wealth to richer countries, buy everything up and no one seems to want to know about how they get their wealth.
Exactly
They are pretty much shafted, aren't they ?
Do
@@ewigeblumenkraft1362 No one forces them to work there....
I've met owners of similar shops and they are usually working on the machines themselves and most aren't wealthy, owning a machinist shop in the west might be big money but in third world countries that's not always the case.
Glad to see a Pakistani mate doing a useful and informative work..rather than producing cringe 18 plus content which is so common these days.!
Pretty amazing when you think its made with old ships hulls cut out in strips.
Using a wire wheel with no eye protection and sitting directly in front of the plane of rotation. Have fun digging those little needles out of your eye when they get thrown.
Sigh..... Among all the other atrocities, THIS one made me sad and mad. Squatting for hours, too.
We have it so good here in Canada. I’m disturbed to see that young boy who is probably roughly same age as my grandson working on a lathe with no safety glasses and leaving the key in the chuck which is a no no in any shop. videos like this show us why we have cheap bikes!!
Cheap bikes like Indian Motorcycle Company? Okay.
I’ve often wondered why sprockets are ALWAYS asymmetrical. This video has explained everything.
Seeing a Cincinnati Horizontal Mill in a factory like this makes you realize just how good they were.
Sold mine when I moved from California to Alaska. Hated to do it just to heavy to move
@@danielelliott3659 theyre MASSIVE. Real old iron is just something else. I had a K&T I bought in Michigan relatively sight unseen when I first got into machining. Lets just say it wasnt about to fit in my garage 😂
Every now and then I watch these for a dose of reality and normalcy. Watching these hard workers calls me on and helps to rid myself of laziness. Thank you hard workers!
Thabnks for appreciating their hardwork life here is very difficult compare to western countries.
To me the scariest thing was that immense pile of carbon steel chips near the drill press at the end. Never mind that stuff cutting flesh to ribbons it can also conduct a spark better than you’d wish.
Steel chips/shavings of that size are not flammable. Need a very fine steel wool to transmit a flame.
Все хорошо, только там Ст3, быстро износится. Я думал еще термичка будет, но где там. Зато всегда работа будет)
Ждал в конце)
Какая термичка ст3??? Ты в своём уме? Термичка со ст4 начинается.
Да и с чего ты взял, что там ст3? Это дверь от гаража какая-то. Там всё что угодно могло быть.
@@blblblbl111 Похоже на швеллера, или судовые переборки. От корабля
Ведомые звёзды сейчас очень редко калят, даже дюраль делают
@@ваняпупкин-з2р Мот китайский есть, и ведомое не пластилин. Хотя по любому попроще, чем ведущее.
В тюнинговых дюраль непростая и ресурс небольшой. Только для мира спорта
Hard working guys....they deserve more salary than IT professionals
Waaaooo!!! DIOS BENDIGA a éstas personas trabajadoras,, gracias a ellas, hace 4 días, compré el juego de Catalina y cadena de mí motor cg200.... Saludos desde República Dominicana.
I love watching these guys, very talented and ingenious to be able to do so much with so little
This is unskilled labor man...They are treated like slaves for pennies a day. Dont sugarcoat it
Самая долгая последняя операция - шлифовка, можно заменить на галтовку. В горизонтальный гранёный барабан с люком засыпают детали и куски битого абразивного шлифовального круга, много кусков, но и оставляют 40% свободного пространства, закрывают люк, включают привод барабана на 1 час, после открывают люк и достают детали. Механизированный труд, и за один заход можно обработать много деталей.
Я уверен они без вас там разберутся!
@@Васильевич-и5ю Так же как и остальные без тебя.
Whole new meaning for “Made in Pakistan”
We are also manufacturing company bro in india
Настоящие трудяги👌👏
Nothing but respect for those guys.
Imagine what they could do with modern equipment?
А я думаю что у renthal такое качество стало, 🤣🤣🤣
Believe it or not, but this is ecology. Old stuff operated by slaves of poverty.
12:50 holy toe gap!!! You can fit another toe in between. These guys never give up their sandals. Even in a work environment with sharp metal pieces everywhere.
Damn good catch!
Отлично работаете 👍фрезер классный. Давно думаю себе заиметь такой .
Hi mother Russia🌚🌝
If you are cutting “softer” materials, e.g. 2024-t3 alumin(i)um, then a self-made cutter of high carbon steel may suffice for modest numbers. It will need to run slowly, with ample cooling and cutting lubricants, but it will cut these softer metals.
The idea of cutting my own sprockets on the mill *is* intriguing…
@@new-estate39 привет
@@dennisyoung4631 we need x40 for steel processing, we have a Latvian milling machine of 1951 in mind. I think to take him under intensive care, asterisks are needed in large quantities
- so what steel you use?
- yes
good strong steel 😉👍
Fish steel. Found in Scrap Heap.
Not even hardened. It will last a couple of weeks lol
correct answer
Respect to those people. Hardworking for food and support family.
No case hardening? On anything over 50cc it won’t last longer than a week.
It doesn't have to, they are 2 cents a piece...
on 70cc its works upto 500km with 2 or 3 persons :-) its pakistan baby
@Hugh Jaanus aluminum sprockets are typically hard anodized. The very thin layer on the top is harder than case hardened steel! As soon as that microscopic layer is worn through, it wears like crazy
@Hugh Jaanus yea, had one on a Kawasaki xz12r with 174bhp but it had a case hardened ring of 48 teeth,
Yes exactly. It's scrap steel. Won't last at all.