Fixing my Rocksolid Garage FLOOR
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2018
- See how THIS FLOOR held up. 2 years later video: • How does it hold up?! ...
If you haven't seen the first video then you might need to check it out to understand what's happening in this one.
First Garage floor video: • Upgrading my new Garag...
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After the first video, I wasn't happy at all at how the Rustoleum Rock Solid floor kit worked. I had done a ton of research on the product, watched videos here on UA-cam and somehow my flooring didn't turn out anything like others floors did. In this video I'm going to try and put the floor coating on again, over the first coat and hopefully, the garage floor can start to look like it should!
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Let's see what name for the fly gets voted up the most!
your supposed to re-etch and sand slightly if doing it more than a day later.
Wrecked Fly rebuild .. YammyFly ftw
Call the fly, Fossil. What's with the green mesh Nikes?
Looks like more of a stationary than a fly
Maurice would be a good name for it
For how much you’ve spent so far, you probably should’ve just hired a company to do it.
no he probably saved 4 grand on a professional epoxy flooring gig. nice try tho
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, I think there should be a cut off for saving money VS having someone else do it.
aboynamedben not true kind sir. I work for a decorative concrete company, and we would have ground the floor in the beginning and applied a much more premium epoxy, and applied it correctly. Plus we would have sealed it so it will last a lifetime. Probably would have ran him $2,500. More money, but would last much longer, and look 10x better.
And lose all that DIY UA-cam revenue?
When I got my garage quoted, Most professionals charge about $6 a sq/ft from start to finish.
Did this to my 2 car garage, did all the steps you did but at the end I put it on with a roller that had a 1 inch nap on it. Turned out thick and even. About 2 years later it’s still perfect.
I know these videos are a lot of work but it really helped me out, So thank you. the 80 grit advice for the concrete was money.
Saw the problems before they happened when I watched the previous video on this project.
#1 mistake made when using concrete dyes, sealers, paints, epoxies, coatings, new concrete, etc. is not examining, cleaning, preparing, and completely fixing the concrete that will be taking the coating. Now for all the details and why:
Whatever the concrete feels like as far as texture and what it looks like, will make a huge difference. A smooth concrete surface will need less material.
Some concrete is more porous, so will require more material anyway. And the epoxy/coating being put on can vary as well, depending on the material itself and temperature etc. For example, a warmer application will likely soak in better, would require more coats, but I believe should provide a stronger surface.
As far as color, even some opaque coatings will not completely prevent the discolored look between areas. So what you see on the surface, can and will come through in some way.
The fix:
This was the fix, a lot more material, a lot more coats, until it is all leveled off and thick enough to hide colors and textures.
Next time, spend extra time on the concrete first.
If the surface, like this one, is uneven all over, textured in various ways, needs patching...then you might want to go all in and grind down the high spots, clean well, etch well, clean well again, then pour the best high strength self leveling concrete on top one can find.
Then put on rocksolid. And it won't 3-8 boxes, but 1-3.
Important reminder, provide texture in the coat, unless you want a super smooth but potentially very slippery floor. Rocksolid I believe sells a texture material, so do many others.
There is no way you can achieve results that look great (the epoxy look that everyone expects) with only 1 to 3 boxes. Even if the concrete is smooth and all the other factors you've mentioned are properly taken care of, there needs to be a minimum thickness of the epoxy to get the results. 1 to 3 boxes is next to nothing when it comes to what actual epoxy floor pros would use. Just take a look at all the videos from the smaller companies who sell epoxy. They would have recommended 10 gallons of epoxy for this garage. He ended up putting 6 boxes of Rocksolid on. That is only 3 gallons of material. It is ridiculous that Rust-Oleum is recommending only half that amount. Bottom line is if you want great results it is going to cost some money so might as well do it right and spend it to get enough material.
Marty McFly - clearly a fly stuck in time.
Alex Berghefer glad I read comments because that was my first thought when he said it lol
Wow, that looks a LOT better! You should name the fly Larry
Glad I saw this video! I am planning on fixing up my garage floor. Thanks Chase!
Wish I saw your video 2 days ago when I did my garage floor.. I’ll redo it tonight this way the real way, thanks!
Man, your garage setting looks ultra clean...i'd say even cleaner than my room right now
I did crazy research before buying/ using rocksolid and watched so many dam videos that I felt professional lol. In the end I had pretty much the same experience you guys had !! Going to put the clear over mine shortly and hope it gives it more uniformity....
I just tried this product on my new concrete floor, 2 boxes that advertise 400-500sqft only covered 200sqft and was so thin I could see concrete better than I could the mica(metallic) flake. After 2 days of prep to achieve such dismal results, I just painted with regular concrete paint and vowed to never use rustoleum brand again. You have way more patience and money than I do!
Thanks for sharing and providing the "fix". I know it hasn't been long, but how is your floor holding up? Are there any bike tire prints or scratches appearing as you use it?
It’s been about a week... how well is the new thick layer sticking to the original product? I’m thinking about redoing mine because I followed the boxes recommendations but in reality you need to double it.
hey thank you and yummi for brighting my day and everyone els
can you use a polisher after its cured to smooth it out?
When you going to review the icon airflite?
whats the square footage of your garage?
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I have used this quite a few times, and use the first coat as a primer. Put it on too thick and you will get bubbles
Did you put the anti-skid additive into this second coat?
The work bench is legit! \M/
Did the second coat stick to the first coat pretty well? @chasedontwowheels
Very very helpful video. He provided the right negative information that helped me compensate with same product. I figure it takes at least 50% more than the product says it takes. Thanks
is it still anti slip since it didn't look like you added the anti slip to this second coat.
Has anyone added the clear top coat more than the recommended 7 days after application of the regular product? curious how it turned out and if it worked still
I loved the first video yo made, I know you worked you ass off but it was hilarious at the end when you finish and the fan stopped, Im a fan now...
Yes it looks better, does the material really bond back to itself with out any prep in between layers? Seems to me its going to lift????
i am glad that you kept trying.
Was that the 200-250 sqft per box that u used or smaller box ?
I see the swirls that you’re doing is that just for appearance or is it a little covering technique that you’re doing?
Chase, your super smooth flooring is going to be a nightmare for audio, ECHOmare!
Would painting the floor gray first have helped? I think I saw a video about similar stuff years ago where the dude said you should paint the floor. I thought it was weird but seeing how much it costs I see the cents in it. (Sorry, had to do that)
Do you think you the primer that Rustoleum sells for garage floors would have helped you not needing so much to get the finish you wanted?
Year and a half later, still look okay? Thanks for posting!
Whatever happened to that checkerboard flooring you had?
Chase, I just went through the same thing with Rock Solid!!! Thanks for doing this video!!! I will do what you did! Since that was 3 years ago can you tell me how the re paint job held up? Thanks again!!!
So would A new construction home need that much prep clean up? Could I just wash and lay the product down?
How well is it holding up?
for the cost of this stuff might as well go with an actual multi step epoxy system
I was your first subscriber I've been watching you since 1992!
The Kleb oh my God, since 1992... Subscribed 13 years before UA-cam was founded, interesting!
JOELEGANT ‘92 is when Chase was born.
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Haha Waaay before its time! When it was still a thought.
a new name for the fly? since its a "fly no more" fly, lets call it WALK
fly's name should be Han Solo because he's stuck in carbonite
Looks good so far.
So the box said two kits for single car garage? Is that for two coats or a single coat? Correct me if I'm wrong, but 1 kit is one box? I would suspect that it's just for a single coat. So for two coats you would need 8 kits for a double garage like yours.
I had a feeling you were going way to light with this stuff. HEAVY COATS Breh. It ain't gonna hurt.
The Rustoleum kits at HD/Lowes for ~$100 are great. It will cover a 2 car garage like the box says. I did this to my current house 2-3yrs ago and it is holding up and looks good. These are paint flake kits and may explain the consistent coverage. I’m going to be doing this again in a 3 car garage soon and will probably grab 2 kits and some extra flakes.
Just a couple tips for you, if you ever run into problems and have to redo this.
If it's been over 7 days since you applied that first coat with this coating, you should hit the floor with a light sanding with 100 grit paper, or a floor screen. Past 7 days the coats won't have a chemical bond, and you will instead need to create the proper amount of "tooth" for the new coat to grab to. You may see delamination of the top coat appear later down the line.
Use a jiffy style paddle when mixing the components together, or another paddle designed for resinous coatings, as well as ensure it is the proper size for the amount you are mixing up, so that it is fully submerged into the material. This will limit the amount of air you draw into the mixture, which can be a problem with some resinous coatings, leaving bubbles in the surface after it has cured.
Use a squeegee/magic trowel to apply resinous coatings for the initial spreading of material on thick coats. This just makes life easier, and lets you control the variation in the epoxy more effectively. Normally contractors would also backroll a system like this, which is exactly what it sounds like. You just go back to the beginning and roll over it using a mohair to 3/8" nap approx. Use cleats or spike shoes to walk over the wet material.
I'm a concrete geek
Only one person should roll it on since two different people will spread using different pressure, making the variations obvious
You are correct. You MUST abrade between coats. If not, the top coat will delaminate in time. This coming from a flooring contractor. I hope this is the one time peeling won't happen. Good luck.
one thing i notice when you guys was rolling the paint on the floor you was rolling in a circular motion. when we painted our garage floor we didnt do that type of motion r and it came out great. plus i wouldnt leave stuff in the garage and paint around it. but i know everyone is different!
Solution to an extremely expensive product that doesn't actually work, buy more of it to realize it's still not what you want.
but they are the ones that paid for the time.....2 part epoxy and save yourself a ton of money and have a finish that lasts and looks better.
@@crushsmith7534 which product do you recommend?
Antislip was in the first application but not the second?
If you left it longer than a week between the first and final coats, you must scuff up (lightly sand) the floor to avoid delamination of the new epoxy coating. Hoping it all works out well for you.
I am surprised they did this without sanding first, an using the degreaser and acetone.
Bro...... I hit the sub button as soon as you said they'd make a dinosaur out of that fly....lmaoooo 👍👍
Ucoat it is a the best product out for the DYI !!! I used gray on a 3 1/2 car and looked amazing !!!!! and that was 1 1/2 kit and I had extra when I was done !
In a few years they're going to get his DNA and make a dinosaur or something. Lol. Freaking hilarious. Great vid buddy
So what's the cost difference between the epoxy and the floor tiles from the last house?
I spent $400 for a cheap epoxy on my last house. In this one, I spent $800 on plastic tiles, and it was worth it. Better look & much more comfortable on your knees. Much easier to walk around on tiles vs. a hard concrete floor for 8 hours.
That fly is stuck like chuck and it looks a whole lot better now brother
kd4ysi whats up brother
I think part of your coverage problem has to do with the fact that you guys were swirling it on instead of actually rolling it on. I wonder if using a spray gun would have helped.
Evan Solomon not sure why he didnt read the previous video's comments/suggestions. A roller is used to roll, keep it wet and roll it smooth. Enough with the swirls 😂
I mean, unless he was going for that pattern. Then, 👍👍
I’ve a 5000 sqft warehouse that I coated in floor paint that was nowhere near as much as the rustoleum, I used my Wagner airless sprayer, and the finish on it is immaculate. Flat, smooth and nowhere near as much work. With the quality of the concrete, should even make it stand out with just a light top coat
Yup. Im a Sailor so painting is part of my job. It was painful to watch them use the roller like that. More exhausting, pulls your mucles in a way that can make you really stiff the next day, ruin the roller and much worse finnish as the paint isnt applied evenly. Its thicker on the top and bottom of the swirls as well as the edges of the roller when it passed sideways, you gather paint on the plastic part of the roller making it give out paint less evenly and you rip cotton (or whatever its made of) off the roller due to the abrasive concrete, which stays in the the paint as well as worsens the rollers performance in taking up and spreading paint evenly.
Neil Dougan I think for a small garage floor like this it would be easyer with a roller. When spraying, espeially in small areas, you need to cover up every last inch of what you dont want painted to prevent overspray.
Spraying does give the best result, but its usually used for large scale projects since it needs a lot of preperation.
You should go back to the tile floor like your old garage. It will solve 2 problems. 1 the AC noise I still can hear and the issue of not having a lot of it. $600 you could have had a better floor than you last apartment.
I dont think it looks that bad but maybe its just the way it hits the camera lense
Right! Looks pretty decent I just think its not that resistant towards scratches it seems
How do you get people to send you shit without having to pay for it, or did you buy that flooring. I want to do this over OSB wood flooring do you think it will work?
Nope had to buy everything. This specific product is only meant to be applied to concrete floors
Whens the next wrecked bike rebuild going to be?!
Some kind of cool bike! Well hopefully something single sided swingarm!
Same issue had to do 2 coats for desired results. You have 7 days before its fully cured and sanding is needed between coats. If you went passed 7 days before doing second coat there maybe peeling issues.
Thank you for posting the video. If you are saying that one box is $100, how many square feet of coverage would you say that you really used, to get the 'look and texture' that you wanted for that money? If you spent $700, and got really only about 1.5 car garage of coverage, that's quite pricey, or perhaps that's why the places that do this for customers, actually charge so much, because they really layer it on heavy like that, and don't follow the box suggestions for use / coverage....!?
Is this a 2 car garage?
‘I was so unhappy with this stuff when I used it the first time, I bought more and I’m gonna use it again!!!!’
Brilliant.
Dude...after watching your first video I researched it a bit, and that stuff scratches SUPER EASY!! No way its worth the investment. It may look cool right now, but in a year its gonna look like crap from what I have seen.,....SKETCHY!!! Congrats on the new house though Chase!!
why no swisstrax?
i saw a photo of where a guy used the rock-solid blackpearl for the first coat and the blue for the 2nd coat and it looked amazing
Literally watched first video, drive to Lowe’s, but product ($166 per box), installed product on my garage (2boxes-2car garage), come inside and shower, sit down and THEN this video pops up 😕. Guess I’ll be applying another 2-3 boxes tomorrow. Question though! Did you ever apply a top clear coat?
How did it turn out? :)
Hey mate, just letting you know that your not the only person that Rustoleum duped with their fake advertising of the supposed coverage. I have a 7.5m x 4.5m work shed that I am renovating. Firstly I used a concrete grinder to get my floor perfect, then used the probably 6 boxes of the crack filler. I did go with the Rustoleum primer for my floor, as in the instructions they say that it will use less of the main coat. Unfortunately I unboxed my primer and main coat at the same time and for some unknown reason Rustoleum decided no to label anywhere on their packaging the difference between the primer bag, main coat bag and the clear top coat bag. This is just a really big oversight by Rustoleum and when each bag is inspected closer all of the bags are EXACTLY THE SAME!!! Why Rustoleum ???? So you can probably guess where this story is going, after rolling the 4th bag down in my shed, I went to open the 5th bag and guess what, it wasn't primer but main coat...... So I ended up just using that pack as a primer packet, all in all 6 primer packs in which Rustoleum say will cover 134 square meters but yet it only did 34 square meters, alarm bells should have started ringing but too late I had already purchased 4 more main coat packs and 2 clear coat packs. And guess what they were still not enough to cover my floor. So now that I am so far down this rabbit hole, I have acquired 8 more packs. I too have come to the same conclusion as yourself more is better so in the next week or so I will see if a total of 20 packs of this great product will actually be enough to cover my floor. Oh and in Australia they sell Rustoleum in a 2 car garage pack (2 bags of epoxy) for, wait for it $280..... So Iv spent over $5k on my stupid floor that all these other you tube videos say is fantastic. Thanks for making a real video of what people should expect when they use Rustoleum.
Chase, I have that exact product down. It takes exactly what they say on the box.. you used two and a half or two car garage of course it's not going to turn out properly.
Seems like you probably could have painted the floor then go over it with an epoxy to get that look on the cheap?
Still looks better than bare concrete either way good job for a first time
Who ever buys this house after you is going to wonder who the hell is so lazy that they paint around the furniture
Because F*ck it haha
I thought the exact same thing
Its actually way more common than you would think, especially on walls :p
Its all too common. Why you just buy new or get from a very old couple that just past..
😂😂😂
Looks so much better. you could still see the slight cracks from were the concrete was cracked. Now not so much. Just name the fly BOB.
did my garage a few years back .. bought a kit from Lowes of rustoleum $55 for a gallon ..did 1/2 one week did the other half the next ..put it on thick.. no problems with that wavy crap ... kit was different back then ..came in 2 metal cans
There are some video in you tube about this that was done by pro's and they were using a lot of material using a 5gallon bucket.
long haired roller and forget all that fancy swirling shit just apply a thick even coat and its amazing
You should paint the walls a fossil Gray that would look great with that flooring.. just saying let me know what you think
Bikes are baller. Killed me 😂 "They going to be able to get this flies DNA and make a Dinosaur or some shit" 🤣
I honestly screamed at my laptop after the eleventh minute of you using a paint roller like a rag on a stick. forward. backward. slight angle. forward. backward straight again.
Like an english wheel. you wouldve ended up with a more uniform finish with less swirls in it.
You still happy with it? Being it is a Polycuramine and not Epoxy, do you regret using it?
Poor fly ...but good video i am glad youre honest about the thickness to achieve beautiful results
This video changed my mind about Rocksolid. I just paid a professional to do it.
I went to Home Depot and bought three gallons of gun metal garage floor paint for $35 a pop. Put down all three coats then purchased the five gallon clear epoxy for $100 and put three layers of clear. Floor look great and cost less than $500!
As a hobby I used to paint cars and trucks. When using a transparent product put a solid base coat down for a uniform coat. then put your metallic coats on. there is a lot of ways to do this .
Looks better, but in my experience the Rustoleum floor epoxy isn't good long term. Repairing it is just throwing good money after bad. I did all the cleaning and prep, including etching and mine scratched up quickly with using tools in the garage and couldn't hold up to floor jacks, so I ended up using Race Deck over it for a few years, then used the product you used to have, SwissTrax. Swisstrax is much better than RaceDeck due to being thicker and quieter. Easier to replace a spare Swisstrax tile if you ruin one.
T the fly after your supermoto/dualsport i think thats your supermoto/dualsport
I think I'll just get the tiles for my garage. The cost difference can't be that much if you gotta lay it on that thick.
The name of the fly has to be Rocky :-) That's solid :-P
this product is supposed to be semi transparent that adds depth to it. When you poured it into the bucket it was clear. IT gained its color when you added the metallic coloring.
One of the biggest complaints I hear about the big box epoxies is that the color batches are never the same. You need to get the same lot number when you buy epoxy and that typically is not possible when you buy it from a big box store. The second most popular complaint is that it peels because the preparation was done incorrectly “as per the manufacturer specifications”. Always diamond grind or shotblast, always install a primer first and you won’t have any problems.
Well said..............spot on
Do you think, that maybe, the additive you added to reduce slippage also reduced reflectivity giving a bad impression? I noticed what I think is an orange peel effect after the first coat, and that after you gave it the second treatment in this video, smoothed the surface out which made it look better. Looks great, but $700--yikes!
Ralph the wrecked bike rebuild fly, he is all powerfull and all knowing, his spirit will forever judge the motorcycles in the c2w garage. RIP RALPH!
Question I have is, when you put it on that thick, will it come up when you drive on it ... especially when your tires are hot? It looks great .... but concerned the “extra product” wouldn’t adhere as well? Anyone have any experience here? Thanks.
😂 Dude you cracked me up in this video. I’m like look at this poor guy 🤦🏻♂️. You started out so positive and ended up more and more frustrate. And the fact that you spent all that money and more importantly 3 days of your time is hard to swallow. Looking back would you have just hired someone?
He did a great job with following the instructions and making these two videos. Rustoleum totally dropped the ball on their instructions and had a seriously overpriced kit considering the coverage and the professional competition.
How much have you spent? 😟 Your up to six boxes, correct..
Yoooo.. you need heat to pull bubbles as well, it will make it suuuuper smooth
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