Thanks for the guide! Word of advice for anyone doing this, just cause the holes of the retention rod line up doesn't mean that the pads are on properly! I just fixed my mistake, my left pad was hanging lower than the right because it wasn't seated correctly. Best the check your brakes after a round around the block.
The stock Brembo pads are sintered. If I remember correctly, when you buy the stock pads from a Royal Enfield service centre, the RE original packaging says "sintered". I think the problem is that these are rated FF while the EBC ones are HH.
I think you're right, the difference between the Brembo pads and the EBC pads is very noticable. So they must be different even though both are sintered.
@@losttogether4ever Indeed and the difference is in the friction rating. Stock pads are rated FF while the EBC pads are HH (you can see it in the model numbers) which means that the latter have a higher coefficient of friction at normal as well as high temperatures. Another interesting thing is that my Interceptor has barely 2500 kilometres on it and the front pads are almost half gone! I think my next set will be EBC. I just need to find a reliable source here in India.
I have the EBC (HH) pads both front and rear. Makes a big difference. The rear brake has anti squeak plates. Use them on the EBC's as well, or your rear break will squeak. You may need to bend the clips a bit to make them fit. Before my rear brake was useless, but with the HH pads it actually slows down the bike.
Excellent instructional video. I suspected that HH spec front pads would sort out the issues people have been complaining about. Most manufacturers fit rear pads that give a dead or wooden feel, I'm sure its to protect inexperienced riders from locking the rear inadvertently....when you learn how to use a good rear brake it can be a wonderfull tool, especially for dive free braking in town riding and for trimming speed in fast sweeping curves. SBS (Scandanavian Brake Systems) pads have given me some really noticeable improvement on several bikes in the past.
Fast, no BS, comprehensive video. Great job. I see you are still rolling the Pirelli Phantoms... Would be interesting how many miles / kilometers you get out of them. I was unlucky enough to get my GT650 with Ceat tyres which are "nothing to write home about" kind of tyres. They do the job but are mostly "meh".
Hey Vlad! Thanks for watching, ya I'm not sure how many kms I'll get out of the Pirellis I'm at 10,000kms so far, they aren't too bad of a tire, also nothing spectacular. Not sure what I'll replace them with probably not until next season I'm thinking of doing an Outex tubeless conversion over next winter, I'll do a video when I do as well.
@@losttogether4ever hi... I've seen videos about converting spoked rims into tubeless.... I really don't think it's worth the risk of losing air mid ride... I'm actually planning to buy the alloy rims from RE. They don't look that bad to be honest. But new rims mean new tyres so im on hold on that project for now - i have just about 5.5k kilometers on my stock tyres.
I got 6000miles each out of 2 front Pirelli’s & 12000, from the rear. I thought they suited the Interceptor well. Changed to Bridgestone because of price & also have them on another motorcycle.
Just looking at getting the GT what are your essential first upgrades, what is longest trip you’ve undertaken with bike , much pressure on your wrists?
Thanks for watching, my longest ride is probably around 400 kms. A bit of pressure on my wrists but nothing too uncomfortable. The bike from the factory is pretty well sorted, as far as essential upgrades I'd say Brake pads, Bar end mirrors and Exhaust if I were to pick 3 that made a difference.
Thanks for watching and subscribing, I don't have a shop manual but I do have access to one as well as the torque values, they are a sticky on the unofficial Royal Enfield Community forum --forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?board=30.0
That's a good idea, the Brembo pads come stock on the GT650, the difference is in the compound, for my upgrade I chose to go with an EBC semi sintered compound, stock is a milder organic compound. I'm sure sintered or Carbon Ceramic Brembo pads would perform similarly. Thanks for being a part of our channel!!
Nice review. Brembo opened a subsidiary, Bybre, in India to serve the Indian market some time back. The nicer bikes built there use them, like BMW G310, various smaller KTM models, even the now retired HD 750.
@@gotpkrgotpkr The EBC USA made sintered HH brake pads have been popular for both the 650's and Himalayan, probably a good bet and improved my initial brake bite.
What are your thoughts on a wider back tire? I have a '22 Continental GT and am thinking of doing that for a little more high speed freeway stability. I've read a 150/70-18 will fit with a slight mod to the chain guard.
There's been a lot of discussion over on the unofficial Royal Enfield forum about a 150 rear tire most riders that have done this seem to really like it for stability, however the experts have said that squeezing a 150 tire on our narrow rims won't give you better handling, they say the narrow tires which feel twitchy is actually evidence of flickability. The fatter tire may feel more stable but might sacrifice quick handling. That said I'll probably look for a 140 rear when it's time, the 150 does look great though.
How did the new pads feel, was there a noticeable difference between the old an new, and pleae come round and clean my bike to the same level as yours😊
Thanks for watching, the new pads feel great!! Definately more bite on the front end, the rear seems to grab with less effort as well. Well worth doing !!
Notice much difference? I just swaped out my rear pads with same ones you recommended. I didn't notice much difference. Nothing like my brembos on my bmw! LOL
I agree with you, the rear brakes are limited by the caliper, the v-rated pads are the best you can use in my opinion, a stronger caliper would give you more bite, but I don't think there is an alternative caliper we could use. The big difference is on the front which is used the most.
@@losttogether4everNo, there's only 1 hole. I saw another video with the same system as mine. One clip only. removed my rear pads cause one of the pads seems to be loose, but upon cleaning and reassembly... remains loose. 🤣🤣🤣 making squeaky noises. I'm going to do it again but need to get cooper grease or something similar.
You should never lube the mounting bolts, the calipers are still new with factory grease on them I see no reason to mess with the rubber boots. The pins maybe but I didn't have any brake grease on hand it usually gets washed off in the rain or regular washing of the bike.
Excellent video, very clear and easy to follow. I’ll be fitting these to my Continental GT.
Thanks for the comments!! You'll see a big difference.
Thanks for the guide!
Word of advice for anyone doing this, just cause the holes of the retention rod line up doesn't mean that the pads are on properly! I just fixed my mistake, my left pad was hanging lower than the right because it wasn't seated correctly.
Best the check your brakes after a round around the block.
Good tip! Yes it's always good to do a second check to make sure everything is seated properly. Thanks for watching and contributing to our channel.
I’ve just done mine now I’m wondering 🤔mine is very slightly lower mine side how much was it on yours and how did you know it wasn’t seated properly ?
The stock Brembo pads are sintered. If I remember correctly, when you buy the stock pads from a Royal Enfield service centre, the RE original packaging says "sintered". I think the problem is that these are rated FF while the EBC ones are HH.
I think you're right, the difference between the Brembo pads and the EBC pads is very noticable. So they must be different even though both are sintered.
@@losttogether4ever Indeed and the difference is in the friction rating. Stock pads are rated FF while the EBC pads are HH (you can see it in the model numbers) which means that the latter have a higher coefficient of friction at normal as well as high temperatures.
Another interesting thing is that my Interceptor has barely 2500 kilometres on it and the front pads are almost half gone! I think my next set will be EBC. I just need to find a reliable source here in India.
I have the EBC (HH) pads both front and rear. Makes a big difference. The rear brake has anti squeak plates. Use them on the EBC's as well, or your rear break will squeak. You may need to bend the clips a bit to make them fit.
Before my rear brake was useless, but with the HH pads it actually slows down the bike.
Excellent instructional video. I suspected that HH spec front pads would sort out the issues people have been complaining about. Most manufacturers fit rear pads that give a dead or wooden feel, I'm sure its to protect inexperienced riders from locking the rear inadvertently....when you learn how to use a good rear brake it can be a wonderfull tool, especially for dive free braking in town riding and for trimming speed in fast sweeping curves. SBS (Scandanavian Brake Systems) pads have given me some really noticeable improvement on several bikes in the past.
Thanks for being a part of our channel, those are good points, I'm not familiar with SBS pads, I've always used EBC.
Thanks, really appreciate the time and effort.
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
Another clear, concise how-to video......with some teaching points!!👍👍👍
Thanks so much Frederico!!
Outstanding channel! Glad I subscribed. Starting to watch your India videos as well. Great stuff! Very interesting.👍
Thank You so much!! We had a great time in India and can't wait to go back, hopefully with a tour of the Royal Enfield factory as well!
ive just fitted ebc hh pads to the front of mine, incredible difference, 2 finger braking now possible
I know the difference really is night and day!! One of the best upgrades ever!
Thanx a lot. Very helpful and intersting video.
Glad it was helpful!
That's a great video, thanks very much!
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching!!
Fast, no BS, comprehensive video. Great job. I see you are still rolling the Pirelli Phantoms... Would be interesting how many miles / kilometers you get out of them. I was unlucky enough to get my GT650 with Ceat tyres which are "nothing to write home about" kind of tyres. They do the job but are mostly "meh".
Hey Vlad! Thanks for watching, ya I'm not sure how many kms I'll get out of the Pirellis I'm at 10,000kms so far, they aren't too bad of a tire, also nothing spectacular. Not sure what I'll replace them with probably not until next season I'm thinking of doing an Outex tubeless conversion over next winter, I'll do a video when I do as well.
@@losttogether4ever hi... I've seen videos about converting spoked rims into tubeless.... I really don't think it's worth the risk of losing air mid ride... I'm actually planning to buy the alloy rims from RE. They don't look that bad to be honest. But new rims mean new tyres so im on hold on that project for now - i have just about 5.5k kilometers on my stock tyres.
I got 6000miles each out of 2 front Pirelli’s & 12000, from the rear. I thought they suited the Interceptor well. Changed to Bridgestone because of price & also have them on another motorcycle.
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Just looking at getting the GT what are your essential first upgrades, what is longest trip you’ve undertaken with bike , much pressure on your wrists?
Thanks for watching, my longest ride is probably around 400 kms. A bit of pressure on my wrists but nothing too uncomfortable. The bike from the factory is pretty well sorted, as far as essential upgrades I'd say Brake pads, Bar end mirrors and Exhaust if I were to pick 3 that made a difference.
Many thanks I shall do those first
Great vid, and plan to tackle this next weekend. How about tackling bar end turn signals from moto gadget?
Thanks!! That's a really good idea I'll look into that !! Thanks for being a part of our channel!
How'd you figure the torque values? Do you have a shop manual?
Also subbed
Thanks for watching and subscribing, I don't have a shop manual but I do have access to one as well as the torque values, they are a sticky on the unofficial Royal Enfield Community forum --forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?board=30.0
Merci pour cette vidéo très claire et bien expliquée 👍
Je vous en prie! Merci d'avoir regardé et de faire partie de notre chaîne !
Good job! My gt has 22k , my brake pads can last a little longer
I have to change the brake fluid soon
greetings
Thanks for watching and subscribing!! These bikes are awesome!
Could you please review the BREMBO REAR BRAKE PADS 07BB02 for the gt650?
That's a good idea, the Brembo pads come stock on the GT650, the difference is in the compound, for my upgrade I chose to go with an EBC semi sintered compound, stock is a milder organic compound. I'm sure sintered or Carbon Ceramic Brembo pads would perform similarly. Thanks for being a part of our channel!!
Nice review. Brembo opened a subsidiary, Bybre, in India to serve the Indian market some time back. The nicer bikes built there use them, like BMW G310, various smaller KTM models, even the now retired HD 750.
Thanks for the info! Good to know.
Hey there, i have the bybre on my interceptor black ray 2023 and i wanna change the pads . Do u have an idea which one are better ?
@@gotpkrgotpkr The EBC USA made sintered HH brake pads have been popular for both the 650's and Himalayan, probably a good bet and improved my initial brake bite.
Any reason you can’t leave the breaks on the bike and just pull the pin and remove the pads and insert the new ones?
You could possibly do that I didn't want to damage the rotor when I pushed the pistons back into the caliper!
What are your thoughts on a wider back tire? I have a '22 Continental GT and am thinking of doing that for a little more high speed freeway stability. I've read a 150/70-18 will fit with a slight mod to the chain guard.
There's been a lot of discussion over on the unofficial Royal Enfield forum about a 150 rear tire most riders that have done this seem to really like it for stability, however the experts have said that squeezing a 150 tire on our narrow rims won't give you better handling, they say the narrow tires which feel twitchy is actually evidence of flickability. The fatter tire may feel more stable but might sacrifice quick handling. That said I'll probably look for a 140 rear when it's time, the 150 does look great though.
How did the new pads feel, was there a noticeable difference between the old an new, and pleae come round and clean my bike to the same level as yours😊
Thanks for watching, the new pads feel great!! Definately more bite on the front end, the rear seems to grab with less effort as well. Well worth doing !!
Notice much difference? I just swaped out my rear pads with same ones you recommended. I didn't notice much difference. Nothing like my brembos on my bmw! LOL
I agree with you, the rear brakes are limited by the caliper, the v-rated pads are the best you can use in my opinion, a stronger caliper would give you more bite, but I don't think there is an alternative caliper we could use. The big difference is on the front which is used the most.
@@losttogether4ever that's my weekend project!!!
trust me mate bmw does use chinese parts all over there bikes and one of the reasons for that is that they are made in china now !😛
Do you have the link to the pads ?
Sorry, no I don't I bought them from E-bay, they were a single listing. If you search the pad numbers on E-bay you'll find numerous matches.
@@losttogether4ever it’s all good, thank you very much ! Also, awesome video
odd, my rear brake only has one pin to remove...
Are you missing one of the pins? Is there 2 holes for the clips?
@@losttogether4everNo, there's only 1 hole. I saw another video with the same system as mine. One clip only. removed my rear pads cause one of the pads seems to be loose, but upon cleaning and reassembly... remains loose. 🤣🤣🤣 making squeaky noises. I'm going to do it again but need to get cooper grease or something similar.
Would have been a better job if you had had Lubed the the sliders on the callipers front and rear also the mounting bolts and securing pins….
You should never lube the mounting bolts, the calipers are still new with factory grease on them I see no reason to mess with the rubber boots. The pins maybe but I didn't have any brake grease on hand it usually gets washed off in the rain or regular washing of the bike.
Does anyone have rotor part numbers?
Not sure of the actual part # but E-bay has lots available both Enfield and EBC