I got super lucky and scored a large form in a sea of small form from local grocery store here in New Orleans. I figured it out after a frost last winter when I lost almost all the leaves on a 4 vine pot. I cut it all back and now I have 8 vines! It is very true that they grow and size up much quicker than small form. I also have a small form cutting from my first ever monstera that got dry rot two summers ago when I was out of town. So I’ve watched them grow simultaneously and you can ABSOLUTELY tell. The leaves sized up significantly after only three leaves. ❤ I need to find a sport now!!
I thought I wanted a large form until mine grew--LARGE. My Thai Constellation is a space bully. I also made the mistake of using a plastic D-shaped pole on it and it bent the pole. And moving it to the shower for the weekly spray down becomes quite a challenge. But it is a beaute!
Wait, so, how do you deal with bent D-shaped poles? Do you just not put it on the poles anymore? Or have you found a way to deal with it? Cuz I was thinking about buying one and putting one on an extra-sturdy moss pole but I'm kinda worried about how big the leaves get.
@@sandy_carpetsthesecond5013 I haven’t dealt with it yet but most likely I’ll get a garden stake or two and find ways to strap it to the pole to reinforce it. As for the type of pole I recommend using, I think the best for this situation is doing a DIY pole with chicken wire mesh, like the one Sydney plant guy uses. And then use a piece of plastic to conceal the back half so that it doesn’t dry so quick, and also direct the aerial roots down the pole. Hope this makes sense!
Thanks for the info! I'm in the states, and for the longest time I didn't even know about small form and large form. The plants here are not generally labeled one way or another. I have found this to be true in big box stores as well as specialty shops, and even a lot of websites.. I have no clue what my monstera is. I will have to wait until it grows a little more. But knowing the difference and the care differences is valuable info. Thanks!
Great video for a beginner like myself. Thanks for warning me that I may lose 1/2 of my east & south facing kitchen nook to the monsters. The deep Craftsman style eaves make the lighting there perfect for plants and painting. Added bonus, the house to the east is white, so as the sun sets, it reflects off that house & the nook fills with golden light.
That's an interesting one! Heard it not so long ago in another youtuber's vid. Also heard that if the petiole sheeth gets these little spikes (kind of like coarse-grained sandpaper) it's large form.
If you're looking for that "jungle" vibe then a basic small form is the thing. I have 2 sibling ones (ie separated early on from the same pot), sat next to each other, both in leca on coir moss poles. They are absolutely LOVING life! Regularly producing 18" leaves with average 4-6 holes (and yes, ruffles) The downside is that in the right light they do grow very tall, very quickly. They're my twin bois and my pride and joy! 😁💚
Wow I just realized this is a new video. Perfect timing too. I wonder if anyone actually sees this comment if anyone knows anything about monstera white tiger I found a listing on Etsy and a few people talking about it on reddit but idk how it differs besides the tiger stripe like variegation.
I prefer small form since they can get big but are small. I got the aurea and albo both are stunnning and grow fast. Plus I’m in a small space so it helps with the amount of space
@@KayleeEllenOfficial it’s definitely on my wishlist but I want one like yours that has green and mint. Most of the ones sold near me are all mint like a white monster. I do love half-moons but I prefer more well balanced variegation. Like what u said in your tour vid that I agree with is that being fully variegated like a white monster looks a bit sick or nutrient deficient.
Got myself a large form for cheap. It grew like crazy but then I had to put it in a lower light setting but with much more space. Suddenly, she appears more like a small form. The ruffles were there early on.
When she called Thai Constellation cheap in the U.S., I almost choked. LOL. I don't know about elsewhere, but where I live, in Tampa, FL, they are more expensive than Albos. I've been wanting a Thai, but have seen rooted potted plants with 3-5 leaves priced at approximately $350. Rooted cuttings with 1-3 leaves priced at approximately $225. And unrooted cuttings with 1-3 leaves priced at approximately $175.
They've been showing up at the big box stores in all sorts of sizes, so keep an eye out and you should find one soon! I got one for 25 bucks a couple of weeks ago
I bought one Thai at Publix of all places, almost had a heart attack when I saw it! It was $49, my second one I bought a Walmart for $29. I live in Bradenton, so they are “in the area” Don’t give up or over pay! Good luck!
I’m pretty in know with my gals. I still thoroughly enjoyed this video. I have (large forms): Mint, Aurea, 3 Thai and Green. Small form: Albo cut into 3 and an Aurea ❤😅. I may or may not be Monstera obsessed 🤣
I love Alo and anthurium etc but monstera are my favourite genus ❤ I shouldn’t because I know being in Australia they’re incredibly hard to find. I don’t know about the UK however I have my sights on the large form Albo 😂
Hi, I have a Albo in small from and yellow Marylin, Mint/white Monster, Green and Lime in large Form. For me the lime is the most beautiful and the white monster/mint is not so appealing to me💚
I've tried the monsters deliciosa small form, not a big fan. I live in small apartment, I do have siltepecana, adansonii, Peru, and cobra. Love them working great.
I now have four monstera ( five if you include one I planted with another one ) all in my desperate attempt in growing a large form . Problem is in uk I cannot find a mature size so I know it’s definitely large form. My latest one was sold as large form but young plant . It’s more of a bush type that even baby leaves have splits and an occasional hole . Doesn’t look like the ikea type at all so I’m hoping it is the big one as I’m running out of space 😂
What happens if you have huge leaves, secondary fennies, but massive internodal spacing.. but also massive petiol ruffles? And it isn’t stretching.. has tons I means tons of light. Large for leaves small form spacing send help lol
My regular monstera small form was huge!! It got thrips and I lost it all but managed to save one cutting. It has since only put out a few new leaves, but it was saved!! I’d like the Thai constellation and the large form or something. I tried buying one large form and it turned out to be a regular one. Hard to find the real kind.
What do you think of the petiole vs. sheath theory? Apparently, the large form sheath usually finishes with a prominent slightly sticking out point, less than halfway along the petiole and on the small form the sheath is more than halfway along the petiole with no little sticky out point at the end ? Again you need them to be more than juvinile I guess somewhat.
As far as the aurea goes,...any tips or suggestions regarding leaf burn/melt? With bright light or even indirect light my yellow keeps burning/melting. I even added silicon to my watering regimen. It's being such a bugger!
Is thai constellation creme brulee real? And what about the many names like platinum and white snow? Or are they all just lucky, random, highly variegated versions of the thai constellation? I feel like I see thai constellation monstera change their type of variegation all the time. Edit: I personally own a small form albo, two thai constellation monsteras and a standard boring one (don't tell him I said that).
The thaicon definitely get massive leaves, loads of holes and tight internodal spacing just like the large form. I guess because they are always large form.
I have a very mature monstera cutting (plant is over 20 years old!) and I thought it was small form, but it has some qualities that would suggest she's rather big form in the end. She's not really vining, leaves are not as big as in a big form and didn't yet get any secondary fenestrations, but I guess they might be bigger than small form's? I'd use some expert to tell me what is she really 😅 it's like she's half and half!
@@heatherjensen3327 that's what I thought until just recently! Now she's just pushed out a bigger leaf with secondary fenestrations, so maybe it was just the environment that stunted her growth? 🤷♀️
I found what I thought was an albo sport from a grocery store. White variegation with some mintyness. Well I have 2 leaves in my care now and the variegation on those is looking more aurea or green on green colored with white speckles in the pale green area. I have no idea what to make of it.
@@Thrinmeister Fruit growing on a Thai Con? 😲 Well that might be a new rare plant and plants that are beautiful and give edibles are on my wish list.11
Can a small form grow and climb up a brick wall? I hate moss poles but have a beautiful brick wall inside and I'd actually prefer that to happen for our house.
I got super lucky and scored a large form in a sea of small form from local grocery store here in New Orleans. I figured it out after a frost last winter when I lost almost all the leaves on a 4 vine pot. I cut it all back and now I have 8 vines! It is very true that they grow and size up much quicker than small form. I also have a small form cutting from my first ever monstera that got dry rot two summers ago when I was out of town. So I’ve watched them grow simultaneously and you can ABSOLUTELY tell. The leaves sized up significantly after only three leaves. ❤ I need to find a sport now!!
I got super lucky and scored a large form in a sea of small form from local grocery store here in New Orleans. I figured it out after a frost last winter when I lost almost all the leaves on a 4 vine pot. I cut it all back and now I have 8 vines!
It is very true that they grow and size up much quicker than small form. I also have a small form cutting from my first ever monstera that got dry rot two summers ago when I was out of town. So I’ve watched them grow simultaneously and you can ABSOLUTELY tell. The leaves sized up significantly after only three leaves. ❤
I need to find a sport now!!
I thought I wanted a large form until mine grew--LARGE. My Thai Constellation is a space bully. I also made the mistake of using a plastic D-shaped pole on it and it bent the pole. And moving it to the shower for the weekly spray down becomes quite a challenge. But it is a beaute!
Wait, so, how do you deal with bent D-shaped poles? Do you just not put it on the poles anymore? Or have you found a way to deal with it? Cuz I was thinking about buying one and putting one on an extra-sturdy moss pole but I'm kinda worried about how big the leaves get.
@@sandy_carpetsthesecond5013 I haven’t dealt with it yet but most likely I’ll get a garden stake or two and find ways to strap it to the pole to reinforce it.
As for the type of pole I recommend using, I think the best for this situation is doing a DIY pole with chicken wire mesh, like the one Sydney plant guy uses. And then use a piece of plastic to conceal the back half so that it doesn’t dry so quick, and also direct the aerial roots down the pole.
Hope this makes sense!
Chatty repots are fun, but even as a seasoned plant collector, I still super appreciate informative plant content! Thanks for this!
I'm a fan of the Aurea, I like yellow. I also LOVE your plant shelves, they look really nice!!
This was delightful, love monstera and seeing all the varieties! The splits on the Brazil common form are really elegant.
Thanks for the info! I'm in the states, and for the longest time I didn't even know about small form and large form. The plants here are not generally labeled one way or another. I have found this to be true in big box stores as well as specialty shops, and even a lot of websites.. I have no clue what my monstera is. I will have to wait until it grows a little more. But knowing the difference and the care differences is valuable info. Thanks!
Great video for a beginner like myself. Thanks for warning me that I may lose 1/2 of my east & south facing kitchen nook to the monsters. The deep Craftsman style eaves make the lighting there perfect for plants and painting. Added bonus, the house to the east is white, so as the sun sets, it reflects off that house & the nook fills with golden light.
If the leaf sheeth is smaller than half of the leaf-stem = large form… bigger than half = small form. This method never fails
Never heard this and thank you
That's an interesting one! Heard it not so long ago in another youtuber's vid. Also heard that if the petiole sheeth gets these little spikes (kind of like coarse-grained sandpaper) it's large form.
Yesss was it my video? When I learned this sheeth tip it became so much clearer and easier! ❤
Yes I saw this on someone else’s video on here…and it’s been true every time
@@plantwithroos yes! I think so! 😊 it was really informative, loved it! ❤
If you're looking for that "jungle" vibe then a basic small form is the thing.
I have 2 sibling ones (ie separated early on from the same pot), sat next to each other, both in leca on coir moss poles. They are absolutely LOVING life! Regularly producing 18" leaves with average 4-6 holes (and yes, ruffles)
The downside is that in the right light they do grow very tall, very quickly. They're my twin bois and my pride and joy! 😁💚
Wow I just realized this is a new video. Perfect timing too. I wonder if anyone actually sees this comment if anyone knows anything about monstera white tiger I found a listing on Etsy and a few people talking about it on reddit but idk how it differs besides the tiger stripe like variegation.
Thank you Kaylee! 🪴
I prefer small form since they can get big but are small. I got the aurea and albo both are stunnning and grow fast. Plus I’m in a small space so it helps with the amount of space
You should try a mint some time! I've really grown to like them
@@KayleeEllenOfficial it’s definitely on my wishlist but I want one like yours that has green and mint. Most of the ones sold near me are all mint like a white monster. I do love half-moons but I prefer more well balanced variegation. Like what u said in your tour vid that I agree with is that being fully variegated like a white monster looks a bit sick or nutrient deficient.
@kindallnight1615 yeah I agree with that!
Got myself a large form for cheap. It grew like crazy but then I had to put it in a lower light setting but with much more space. Suddenly, she appears more like a small form. The ruffles were there early on.
When she called Thai Constellation cheap in the U.S., I almost choked. LOL. I don't know about elsewhere, but where I live, in Tampa, FL, they are more expensive than Albos. I've been wanting a Thai, but have seen rooted potted plants with 3-5 leaves priced at approximately $350. Rooted cuttings with 1-3 leaves priced at approximately $225. And unrooted cuttings with 1-3 leaves priced at approximately $175.
They've been showing up at the big box stores in all sorts of sizes, so keep an eye out and you should find one soon! I got one for 25 bucks a couple of weeks ago
@@jessief2150 ~ Seriously? Where do you live, that you saw them in a store?
I bought one Thai at Publix of all places, almost had a heart attack when I saw it! It was $49, my second one I bought a Walmart for $29. I live in Bradenton, so they are “in the area” Don’t give up or over pay! Good luck!
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really appreciate your informative videos!
Great and very informative video, thank you 👍🏻
I’m pretty in know with my gals. I still thoroughly enjoyed this video.
I have (large forms): Mint, Aurea, 3 Thai and Green.
Small form: Albo cut into 3 and an Aurea ❤😅.
I may or may not be Monstera obsessed 🤣
I'm with you there! I'm on a total kick atm
I love Alo and anthurium etc but monstera are my favourite genus ❤
I shouldn’t because I know being in Australia they’re incredibly hard to find. I don’t know about the UK however I have my sights on the large form Albo 😂
Hi, I have a Albo in small from and yellow Marylin, Mint/white Monster, Green and Lime in large Form. For me the lime is the most beautiful and the white monster/mint is not so appealing to me💚
Love your videos!
I've tried the monsters deliciosa small form, not a big fan. I live in small apartment, I do have siltepecana, adansonii, Peru, and cobra. Love them working great.
I have a large form monstera ❤her and I have small albo, small aurea and my Thai. I❤❤❤❤❤ monstera. My best friend has a large form aurea!!!!
I now have four monstera ( five if you include one I planted with another one ) all in my desperate attempt in growing a large form . Problem is in uk I cannot find a mature size so I know it’s definitely large form. My latest one was sold as large form but young plant . It’s more of a bush type that even baby leaves have splits and an occasional hole . Doesn’t look like the ikea type at all so I’m hoping it is the big one as I’m running out of space 😂
Another comment: Kaylee like I’ve commented below I have an Aurea and Albo. They will be going into Leca onto a moss pole together ❤❤
What happens if you have huge leaves, secondary fennies, but massive internodal spacing.. but also massive petiol ruffles? And it isn’t stretching.. has tons I means tons of light. Large for leaves small form spacing send help lol
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Thai Constellation is cheap in Australia. Baby is AU$20.
My regular monstera small form was huge!! It got thrips and I lost it all but managed to save one cutting. It has since only put out a few new leaves, but it was saved!! I’d like the Thai constellation and the large form or something. I tried buying one large form and it turned out to be a regular one. Hard to find the real kind.
What do you think of the petiole vs. sheath theory? Apparently, the large form sheath usually finishes with a prominent slightly sticking out point, less than halfway along the petiole and on the small form the sheath is more than halfway along the petiole with no little sticky out point at the end ? Again you need them to be more than juvinile I guess somewhat.
As far as the aurea goes,...any tips or suggestions regarding leaf burn/melt? With bright light or even indirect light my yellow keeps burning/melting. I even added silicon to my watering regimen. It's being such a bugger!
Is thai constellation creme brulee real? And what about the many names like platinum and white snow? Or are they all just lucky, random, highly variegated versions of the thai constellation?
I feel like I see thai constellation monstera change their type of variegation all the time.
Edit: I personally own a small form albo, two thai constellation monsteras and a standard boring one (don't tell him I said that).
I don't know if I missed it, but it would've been interesting if you addressed how the Thai Con breaks those identifiers for large form.
Could you explain what you mean?
The thaicon definitely get massive leaves, loads of holes and tight internodal spacing just like the large form. I guess because they are always large form.
I have a very mature monstera cutting (plant is over 20 years old!) and I thought it was small form, but it has some qualities that would suggest she's rather big form in the end. She's not really vining, leaves are not as big as in a big form and didn't yet get any secondary fenestrations, but I guess they might be bigger than small form's? I'd use some expert to tell me what is she really 😅 it's like she's half and half!
If it is 20 years old and not taking up half a room wirh leaves 2 feet long - it isnt large form
@@heatherjensen3327 that's what I thought until just recently! Now she's just pushed out a bigger leaf with secondary fenestrations, so maybe it was just the environment that stunted her growth? 🤷♀️
I have a large-form Aurea, but I don't have Insta to show you lol 😂
I found what I thought was an albo sport from a grocery store. White variegation with some mintyness. Well I have 2 leaves in my care now and the variegation on those is looking more aurea or green on green colored with white speckles in the pale green area. I have no idea what to make of it.
Yeah as nice & tempting as those large forms are. I know to stay away due to lack of space. The temptation is there though. 🤣
Yeah it's literally like growing a full-on tree in your house 🤭
I've got a albo but always wanted a Thai con but I just don't have the space 4 one.
Kaylee, but have you ate the Monstera fruit 😋?
Ooo! A shop in Santa Cruz near us has a fruit growing on their Thai con. It’s been developing for like 9 months and isn’t ready yet!
@@Thrinmeister Fruit growing on a Thai Con? 😲 Well that might be a new rare plant and plants that are beautiful and give edibles are on my wish list.11
Can a small form grow and climb up a brick wall? I hate moss poles but have a beautiful brick wall inside and I'd actually prefer that to happen for our house.
Hi! Do you find your white monster monstera grows slow? Mine is so slow!
I do! My only guess is it's due to the lack of chlorophyll
@@KayleeEllenOfficial that’s what I think too! I was scared that it was due to something I was doing. Thank you!!!
Is monstera Marilyn very different from
Aurea?
Do you know where I can get a monstera Thai constellation from before 2018. The hardier version?
Just saw a $22 one with 3-4 leaves at Kroger. Must be the newer difficult version I’m thinking.
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What about monstera truebii? Is that even a real plant?
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Is Thai con a small form?
Large form :)
Large form monsteras need a large home. They aren't pretty little plants, they are persons living in your house...
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Wow that devil monster looks like a Tim Burton plant if ever iv seen one! 🖤🤍
I got super lucky and scored a large form in a sea of small form from local grocery store here in New Orleans. I figured it out after a frost last winter when I lost almost all the leaves on a 4 vine pot. I cut it all back and now I have 8 vines!
It is very true that they grow and size up much quicker than small form. I also have a small form cutting from my first ever monstera that got dry rot two summers ago when I was out of town. So I’ve watched them grow simultaneously and you can ABSOLUTELY tell. The leaves sized up significantly after only three leaves. ❤
I need to find a sport now!!