2023 TRANSIT TRAIL Review | NEW Ford DIY Camper Van!
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2022
- Today we're reacting to the new 2023 Ford Transit Trail! The Transit Trail is Ford's first Van designed for Camper Van Conversion. Matt will give his thoughts and what features/specs excite him the most! Let's check it out!
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I love having my van connected to the internet all the time. It’s not expensive and is super convenient. I run led lights and smart speaker through my router just like at home. Works great. That combined with starlink is the holy grail.
That is awesome!
Can you mention what info your checking on from the connected van or what value it provides?
This isn't a review, this is a reaction to a promotional video.
Exactly
Yep. See same. Not gonna go off deep end because some bloke with a foreign accent plus favorable review says so. But will give it chance considering past 14+ years been F-150 owner.
Thanks for your excellent insights, its nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about!
Thank you! I agree. Lots of content from “car people” who’ve never built or worked on a transit.
Thanks! I do freelance writing that is mostly log and landing page content for dealerships. You just help me get my brain ready for some of my next orders.
Wonderful!
Thanks for sharing this review, considering your experience, as I thought it was very worthwhile.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for clearing some of it up.. this is the closest to our wish list other than hoping they finally jumped into a hybrid package like the pickup
Hybrid would be the dream… I don’t know what they are waiting for…
Yeah -- hybrid would be a big deal
That would be great having a battery pack and generator all in one like the f150
In my case my build is a cargo van with only stock rear windows (blocked by a back wall making a garage space) and a security wall between the cab and the cargo area, interior in some situations act like an electrostatic shield against cellular signals.
Having some serving external boost would be good in many situations at least in my setup.
That’s great insight 🤔
This is great Matt!!
Thank you!
Thank you for explaining this I ordered a transit in September and was afraid that I ordered the ring time. I ordered it with you previous video information thank you.
I had an order in and I converted it to a trail.
@@AVCRIG I was told that I could not do that. That I had a Vin number and a production date was imminent. And that they could not guarantee delivery within the next 10 months. It sounds like the only thing I did not get was the fan on the roof. Everything else that you'll have recommended I went with on my packages.
At the time of ordering the man stated that this was going to be a horse. He was impressed withe knowledge that I showed in requesting packages and items. I have to give you all the credit because that's where I got the knowledge.
@@johnlake5863 John, to clarify you ordered a van sept of 2022 and you have a vin? I've had an order with my dealer, who's supposed to be the biggest in the state of CT, since April 2021, and I don't have a vin..... I even converted it in July to a 2022 model..... Matt, any problems ordering and getting AVC Rigs?
@@johnlake5863 how did your delivery and concerns turn out for the chassis you bought?
Enjoyed your video. We're getting a Transit from Pleasure Van in April but we're not sure if it's going to be a Trail?!?!? One comment about the fan. We had 2 MaxAir fans in our motorhome. We had a power surge and it blew out the PC boards on both. $135 each to replace. We had Fantastic fans for many years and never had one problem with them. I would never own a MaxAir fan.
Thanks for your informative video,
Bob Frenette
We've had great luck with the MaxxAir fans!
What is a better option, 10 way heated seats or the swivel ones as I don't believe you can get them together? Thank You
So happy you did this video! I'm really trying to figure out what mods void the factory warranty on a regular transit and other vans. Is this the reason they added the factory dual alternators? What other mods to a regular van void the factory warranty? What do you think is a good price for the Trail? Do you think we will only get MSRP at this point?
I think prices will be silly till the chip and parts situations smooth themselves out. There will be a return to normalcy eventually. At this rate Ford can’t build them fast enough so why not keep raising prices. It’s unfortunate for us(all of us consumers) but the only thing to do is wait.
As far as warranty goes that’s a tricky one. When connecting to the Ford systems we just stick to the sanctioned connection points and build our own systems in the back. Drivetrain is another story. Probably best to ask a lift manufacturer. I heard that going over 245/75/16 could void warranty on something but I think it may have just been people talking out their 🍑
@@AVCRIG Can I even buy/build a Ford Transit Trail right now? I went online to build and order and it seems like only the basic Transit is available to order.
Has anyone been able to place an order for one of these? Any more info on when they can be ordered and there ETA?
I work at the Transit plant We are getting ready to start another shift for a total of 3 shifts.
When is Vegas getting these?
That’s awesome!
How is production going now, one year later? How many Transit Trail units you figure you produce in a month.
@@jr.6199 I honestly don’t know how many Transit trails we make. I work in the Bodyshop so they all look the same to me haha. I do know we build 8 E-Transits per hour.
@@jarheadmarine5655 thanks, are you still running 3 shifts and anything delaying production that you know of?
“Wheel lip liner” 💄💋
I ordered a 2022 on February 1st. Awd with the adventure prep. Then ford said they are not making more 2022s. So I ordered a 2023 but the adventure package was no more. I’m still waiting for my can lol. This new package is only available in 350 model if I’m not mistaken.
You know I did have a 350 on order so you may be right. Not sure on that one. I’ll get the package listing from gird loaded up.
What $ value would you say the wheels, rims, lift and side steps add?
Hoping to hear the fan has engineered metal support and gasketing.
They added "intelligent" to AWD, maybe just new modes.
Do you order the auxiliary fuel line extension for gas furnace and/or water heater, or the heater prep option for connecting a hot water tank?
That’s a tough question. Wheels are about 350 apiece, tires 185. It’s been a couple years since I’ve done a lift but I think they were about $1800 depending on who’s lift and what details you select. If you add running boards and installation for it all I’d guess about $6000. I think if you want all the options in the trail edition (it’s loaded with stuff) then its worth it. If you added all the options to a cargo then went and got a lift tires and runners you’d be about the same.
@AVC RIG the only feature I would nix is the inverter since it seems to be low spec. I imagine it can be useful while driving to power a laptop, recharge a portable power bank, or heat some water. Limitation is if it shuts off with the engine and only 400W.
The advantage of the Trail package doesn't seem to be purchase price but being factory it saves time, carries warranty, dealer service/parts, Ford engineered, insurance coverage and probably resale value.
Also has purposeful trim/wheel liners, correct clearances, driveline compatibility, and electronic systems tuned (AWD, speedometer and safety systems).
I don’t know where they got their information about what people want but anybody that knows anything about van conversions knows that almost everybody that wants a ventilation fan wants two of them and neither one of them is located where they put this one
Do you feel the extended option would be better for a buildout or is keeping the long version better for the turning radius? Thank You
If you’re in the van long term the extended does allow for some more valuable space. If it’s a weekend warrior I like the 148LB
Hi, you mentioned adding the Auxiliary heat/ac w/out controls (which now seems to have been rolled into the included trail package because it got dropped from my order summary) I'm wondering what type of upfit heater are you using that benefits from this option?
I don’t like the Aux heat/ AC. We install an Espar heater under the passenger. If we do AC we install a dometic RTX2000
@@AVCRIG thanks!!
I got a fully loaded Thor Rize with bathroom and kitchen awing black alloys etc for 79k? Rec Van Dealership 👍
I wonder if they will offer a trail version of the cutaway. ?
One Upgrade I'd like to see on the Medium/High Roof Transits would be "Barn" Doors for the Side
Yes! I love barn doors. My dad had a Chevy van when I was little and complained about the slider forever when we replaced it with a club wagon. I definitely with they offered a barn door on the MR/HR
I doubt that they will ever offer them. The entire side is one stamping, minus the front fender and doors. Build variations are a mortal sin in manufacturing.
The 400 watt inverter is not particularly impressive. 3000 watt pure sine wave with room for additional would be awesome. If ford really wanted to blow peoples minds, they would develop or source a push up roof option behind the cab area for the mid roof version of Transit. Lifting a vehicle creates a problem When trail driving into many more remote areas. A way to get that headroom back once parked at the camp site would greatly increase the desirability of the mid roof version.. Otherwise, the customer is just camping out of a slightly more comfortable version of the previous Econoline.
I have a feeling the big RV manufacturers will develop something around the platform. I still think independent builders (like AVC) will continue to be more innovative and push the interior options.
As for battery, I’m glad Ford didn’t actually do anything real. We’d all most likely have to replace it anyway so better off not paying for things that will end up in the scrap bin.
What I don’t get is the f150 with the same 3.5 gets a 2.4kw inverter.
@@TobyCostaRica that's because they are more enthusiastic about F series, inside the company, than they are regarding the Transit. The Transit being a European originated design. That exact mindset is why Ford has walked away from so many market segments. Taurus didn't fail in the market. Ford milked it and then ignored it until there wasn't anything left to save. Rinse and repeat with all the other vehicle lines except for the Probe, Festiva-Aspire and the contour, which were either badge engineered Mazda's or in house imports.
@@TobyCostaRica My thought exactly.
I'm placing my order and need to clarify if you are suggesting the dual alternators? Thanks!
It depends on your power needs. I don’t find that our system needs them for adequate charging.
@@AVCRIG thanks so much. This video (correction, all your videos) and your replies have helped me tremendously!
Great Video
Do you have any idea MSRP , heard around $65000 that seems like maybe 15000 compared to regular one
$12,700. I need to get that list published
70k
I can’t seem to find a spec sheet on the trail package, do you have a link?
I love the body style and Ford is where my loyalty lies. Did I see that AWD is standard on this? Any idea if you can fit a true queen size bed and an enclosed bathroom in a van this small? Price?
You definitely can fit a queen and a bathroom in this size van. If you’re taller than 5’6-5-8 I’d recommend a high roof though. (Or if you plan to be on it for extended time)
The hotspot has antenna on roof, might slightly improve signal.
Hats a good point. My daily is a 2019 and it doesn’t have the feature. I’ll test it out in my new/next van.
What type of rear ladder it is? OEM Ford? Lookin for exactly the same. Thanks
Looked like an aluminess rear tire carrier/ladder.
Haven’t seen any mention of the cost difference yet. Does it really make sense to go with the trail option vs doing the upgrades yourself to a cheaper van?
I think this would be a good follow up topic.
@@AVCRIG Thanks for the video. the cost today is $12,620, think it's worth the cost rather than adding stuff a la carte and aftermarket?
@@smars if you want all the items on the list then I think so. I’m reserving judgment till we see one in person.
Thank you! What is the ground clearance with that lift… not disclosed in any literature! Transit was low to begin with. Not fond of all the plastic fantastic stuff, grill and wheel wells, really! Does that plastic stuff effect approach angle. Was dreaming of a Sprinter for years- could never make that jump! Current Jeep Patriot 4x4 is tiny- but a rock crawler with 8.2 ground clearance. Ford Trail is interesting, would need roof racks and a solar vent. Great that trailer hitch is standard! Thanks Ford! Great comments on power bank! Thanks for great review of information available.
Quigley subframe lift and some nip and tuck I reckon … but the real mystery is how exactly is a 245/75-16 tire going to fit in the normal spare tire pocket without a shoe horn.
That’s a great question! I wonder if they opened things up. I was on the AMA yesterday. They said they opened up the front fender well (pinch weld modification) to fit the tire.
I’ll bet the dealer asking price is jacked up way over the MSRP on this van like every other new vehicle now. I wouldn’t even consider buying a new vehicle for at least 1 1/2 years or until the ridiculous markups subside.
I haven’t seen any Ford dealers marking up orders. I have seen vans that moved from special order to inventory get marked up. Ford corporate has been cracking down big time since your view is a common thought of the industry and people are rightfully upset. Now when I recently looked for a Sprinter I did see a local dealer asking for 20k over msrp. I’m really hoping things straighten out soon!
They are definitely listening to the customers
I’ve had my 2023 high roof extended transit ordered since August 10. I ordered the RV package, AWD, EcoBoost and several other items, it’s a little over $67K. This thing has to be in the low to mid $70’s. I get an email from Ford every month or so saying they still have no idea when I’ll get it.
I’m in the same boat. My cargo AWD 148HR LB was 66k. This pushed it to 72k
Mine just priced out a bit over $74k and with the 6% Maryland sales tax and fees I'm over $80k. I haven't actually put the order in yet. I'm trying to shop dealerships to see if anyone will give me something off MSRP.
I mean it's expensive but does come with the 3.5 TT but it looks detuned to 310 which I don't understand because they can get that without a turbo
I didn’t notice that detail. Interesting.
According to the spec sheet, it only has driver and passenger airbags. I know that a Crew van has limitations with the factory liner, but my new van will be my everyday driver/family vehicle and safety is non-negotiable. So I guess I will order a 2024 crew.
How important do you think the second alternator is for a 200Ah/2K watt inverter house system?
Unnecessary
@@AVCRIG thanks again Matt.
Should have added this to my comment yesterday but the one thing Ford could have done mechanically that would have made more difference than anything from a DIY/aftermarket versus OEM standpoint is relocated the rear shock mounts. Sure they can be trimmed or relocated aftermarket but for Ford to have provided an OEM solution would have been a lot better than including a tow hitch which anyone could do. The shock mounts aren't as much trouble off road as they look like they would be but among the potential van life or adventure van crowd perception is reality. They see the low hanging fruit and assume it will be an issue. To revise this would give a better perception and allow Ford to claim a 1" increase in ground clearance as they do sit approximately 1" lower than the rear diff.
That’s a great point. I’d love to see a factory shock mount alteration.
Does the new ford transit Trail come standard with the 3.5 eco boost v6 310 hp with 400 lbs of torque ?
I believe so yes.
What did you mean about widening the tires or pushing them outwards when the ford guy specified the increase of tire diameter by 2.5"?
I don’t think he said the rim is wider, I think he said they adjusted the offset with the wheel design. If you look at the current AWD wheel they look like dually wheels. I’ve reached out to aftermarket manufacturers and encouraged them to follow suit. (Not that they take notes from me)
Listen around 2:40 timestamp
Hi again. I have my Trail ordered but at just under $75k, I'm starting to wonder is it really worth it to start with the Trail if I'm going to do a professional build? I see the benefits of a DIY. Do you have any sense yet of what if any cost savings would be passed on to the customers cost if they start out with a Trail? Thanks!!
It’s all in exterior stuff. Aside from the factory swivels it seems like all the options are exterior parts. For us it doesn’t change the interior buildout cost or options. If you plan to do a lift and tires then it’s probably a good start.
@AVCRIG very helpful thanks!!
No
The wireless hotspot feature is useless. We got it in our 2020 van thinking we could use it to connect to the van remotely when it was in storage, but it shuts off after a short time to conserve battery power. Maybe they changed it for the new model year, but I doubt it.
It definitely shuts off after time. I can’t log into my 2022 after it’s been sitting for a week.
Using the hot spot from my phone and having it in my F150, I can speak to the car based system having drastically faster speed and better service. That said, unless you are doing heavy online work, it’s useless and when you get out to the hills, it is also useless. I would love to see a starlink partnership down the road.
Is the Transit Trail available in extended high roof?
yes
Earlier in their video the review what sizes the trail is available for (with the wrong pictures up to make it extra confusing) but they do say extended will be available.
Matt, did your confirmation email from Ford say " 16" silver steel wheels with exposed lugnuts" ? I took your order form in and only deviated the color, and happen to spot that on my confirmation email...
I’ll have to look. They have been updated a couple times since then as my dealer adjusted orders for us when the trail came out.
Is the interior of your an adventure wagon build? Thank You
It’s our build. We do full builds and sell DIY kits.
"We added a lift kit for more ground clearance"
"Looks like they added a lift kit to gain more ground clearance"
Me: Yup that's what I heard
" We added a long side step..."
" Looks like they added longer side steps..."
Me: Yup, that's what I heard already thanks
" We also added blah blah blah...."
" Well, it looks like they added blah blah blah"
I HEARD THAT PART TOO THANKS. THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT PART UP
My sprinter passenger van came with about 10 locations where I can charge my iPad that are in the UBC format. why would you even need a 400 W inverter for anything? It’s too small when it’s not too big
Agreed. It’s worthless.
You appear to use the terms “looks” and “aesthetics” a lot. If you are planning on creating a very functional off road van with superior off road upgrades for your build , is the added expense of a Trail Version a better option than a more basic cargo version with selected options? Thanks
If you want the best off road capable van I would get a Quigley 4x4 transit. The trail version is a good start in a factory available package. Adding an aftermarket lift and tires would functionally be the same in my opinion. Vancompass, transitoffroad, and quigley all do lifts for the transit. I think half of the trail edition stuff is more looks than function, but that doesn’t mean it’s bad, it’s good to understand what you’re really getting.
@@AVCRIG thanks, I’ve talked with Quigley. Waiting on the post 2020 conversion approval.
Exactly! I become concerned when the marketing people start using terms like "appearance". Appearance doesn't mean shit in Moab or the interior of Alaska. Where, the reason that you have a rifle storage place that is easily reached is because the wildlife you came to observe might try to make a lunch of you!
@@AVCRIG if Ford really wanted to be innovative they would put an air suspension on it like the Land Rover, believe the old Mercury version of the Explore had air suspension so they do know what it is.
I was told by my local Ford dealer this cannot be ordered till 2024. Do you have a contact dealer? They’re claiming that you can only add on the package if you’ve already ordered a 2023. What’s up with that? Thanks.
Because Ford can't deliver on most of its orders fir Transits. We ordered in October 2021. In July of 22 our order was canceled by Ford. We immediately reordered and as of November 11, 2022 we receive an email every 45 days apologizing for the lack of parts to build our 250 AWD.
Yeah this is stupid! I ordered a 2023 on June 5th and it's crickets except for the 45 day canned email. They can't deliver period so what's the point of this model tease?!
@@jonf7238 oh so sorry to hear that☹️
I’m holding onto my 2018 eco-boost. It only has 28,000 miles on it and does great on many trails with K02’s
@@SueT55 Matt is a good guy (from the video) I'm salty with Ford straight up. And now interest rates are much higher so a loan on these overpriced vans will be much more than when I ordered in June. I'm cancelling my order for a 2023.
High roof only I suppose? Both wheelbases?
I think high or medium.
@@AVCRIG I just looked it up, it's what you said, long wheelbase high/medium roof and also high roof extended length.
According to everything I've found they added a body lift, not a suspension lift. No way an OEM is going to use a 2.25 inch spacer lift on the suspension when they can have longer springs and a diff drop done in a couple of afternoons.
Totally. I’m very curious to see how they lift the van in person.
I agree. You might be able to retrofit the Ford Trail high lift suspension on an earlier Transit.
looks great. where can i get one? oh, i can't? don't even know how long until i can? why is ford pushing this so hard when it's not even available and why are companies shilling for ford when this thing is a mirage???
I think the industry is just messed up. If you watch the news a lot is going on with Ford (not necessarily stoked on it all). I do think there’s a pretty big disconnect between Ford Marketing and the actual production lines. On the recent AMA the engineer thought you could order them as of that day. I think it’s better to not take orders at all rather than cancel orders taken.
Frame & chassis?
It’s the same construction as the cargo van.
Price nuts
I really don't understand how ordering a van works. When I google this, I get extremely complicated forms and information that makes absolutely no sense to me.
Ruggedized? I can't believe that's a real word. 😅
I think I’ve heard it used in regards to military equipment like a laptop or something.
Not only is it a real word… it’s been used for nearly 20 years…
How about auto balancing?
Like auto leveling? RVs offer that but the systems are really bulky.
Are these available to order from Ford?
no, its exclusive dealership price ripoff ofc.
In theory yes, but the order bank for Transit is closed for now. I have a feeling they will open it back up. I’d reach out to your dealer and at least get on a wait list.
Idk........I don't see $64,000 worth of van there.
I just went to two different dealership to order one. Apparently you can no longer get a 2023…
What?!?!!
Come on, today is only Jan. 1, 2023!
@@TexasLocalProduce Ford called me back yesterday and they opened it up again. I was able to order one last night. However a few options are no longer available like the 360 camera.
I thought there was also news about how they we’re making interior builds easier. More holes? I dunno. Seems like a marketing hype trim. A little jealous about factory lift and 245’s but that’s about it.
I think we’ll see more info come out over the next few weeks/months as the media gets ahold of the vans. I am curious about interior changes (since that’s what we do) but I don’t expect much.
Maybe they finally moved that rear/cargo wiring harness into the wall cavity 😒
@@getaway_man we should be so lucky!
Is it a 22 foot chassis ?
Where's the Tesla wall?
I’d love to try one. @musk you out there?
$66k for awd panel van you have to be insane .....buy a ranger tremor for 20k+ less & buy a travel trailer or something
It’s a van thing. You do have a good point though.
Where are the Ranger Tremors that are under 20 grand? And rough terrain capable camper trailers are not inexpensive either
3.5 diesel
Ford needs to add enough power for a fridge and a microwave
I don’t think we’ll see them do that. Would take a proper battery system.
It’s the power boost option and yes, they do have it
I must not have seen the power boost option. I thought they only offered the Dual AGM and the little 400w inverter. I know the CCP has a 175 amp output, but that would only work while the van is running. Where can we find some more details?
Just ask dealer they help find a power boost
400 watt inverter sums it up. They didn’t listen to anybody. who asked for a lousy 400 W inverter for Pete’s sake. Nobody. Jeep wranglers and the Toyota FJ cruiser which I haven’t made in years both had comparable inverters years ago
It’s just a mix of all the stuff they have been putting in the vans for years. The only new stuff are the exterior options. All the inside stuff is the same as they have always done.
@@AVCRIG I suspected they wouldn’t fix the fact that only on the Teansit does the roof keep curving for almost two feet behind the driver’s backrest making overhead cabinets in that area untenable. There passenger vans also only come with side airbags in the back whether you want them or not also interfering with overhead cabinets depth to the point of being useless.
I wouldn’t recommend building a passenger into a camper. If you want lots of seats it won’t make a great camper. If you want a safe ride for passengers they make a perfect Van for that. The Crew is a good compromise. Seats and bags in the front half.
As for cabinets in the front portion of the van take a look at what we do. I think we have a pretty good solution for the HR cargo.
Good luck getting one in the next year w/o dealers gouging $10k-15k additional dealer markups. Pass. Wait for the vehicle glut a year from now and under MSRP.
I hope you’re right! We have on in order for sticker. I know Ford corporate is trying to crack down on ridiculous markups.
The folks at Ford really have a stranglehold on UA-cam info vids re: the Transit Trail. I had to go through SEVEN vids till I found yours here, that told me what I wanted to know: the van’s so inexpensive because there is NOTHING on the inside! No wonder the Ford folks spread some dead presidents around to get UA-cam reviewers to talk about outside features, and not talk about the inside! The only thing good about this is decent outside stuff, but what they DO include…like a 300w inverter (or was it generator?) and a misplaced fan…are essentially useless. Ford and all other manufacturers, step up your game already! 😡
If they only asked us how to build them we would set it straight! 😂
My take, fellow upfitters, the TRAIL is not a Sprinter killer or promaster KILLER, Not yet :
1-Not redesign involved
2-Marketing cosmetic red lipstick...still a cargo van
We need a true redesign oem camper van ready for upfitters:
1-better suspension oem, like liquid springs in the back for many needs and desires such as , better departur angle when needed on the spot etc.
2-AC ducted to the back running from the engine(not a one ton mini split), same with floor heating system, get the most of that powerfull engine. Or a total redesign of HVAC system optimized for upfitterd of class B+.
2-side flares fittings ready to install after market flares.
3-the current interior structure is optimized for cargo missions. Hence, redesign interior structure (at least 10 different types and options for upfitters) to optimize installation ...total redesign of interior cealing structure for drop down accesories such as Showers, drapes, kitchens, tables, storage, beds etc. Redesign the floor interior and exterior for things like, oem shower trays, water tanks(plural) that could fit in every unusable hidden space.
4-computer module hacking access to make the AWD more off-roaf capable such as sustainable silp diff. etc
5-detachable or option not to order the obsolete ,2000 year old design, backdoors (cargo doors not design for upfitters) to install our own back design set up, just imagine....Jesus, ala MadMax style designs back there.
5-detachable access pannels on the side for access to all, all utilities(a must have for upfitters). The engine has an access panel, i think.
6-Option of hybrid pronto
7-make the Transit trail lighter by 750 kilos.
8- 100 different options
-Ford, if i may suggest, make a van design for upfitters...to have a true canvas to work on.
All these for a price of 35k msrp, then u will have a true Sprinter and Promaster Killer.
all good points! I don't think we'll ever see a 35k msrp van though
Great thought! Thanks for sharing. I wish they were 35k too. 😩
Be realistic! All that purpose built variation for $35 grand? Plus the option to pick and choose? You don't work in the manufacturing side of the industry that is certain!
@@scottbrown7415 well fellow DIYer and/or upfitter, the BOm, actual bill of material, for a cargo van should be around 20k, enough delta to add options to reach a suggested MSRP of 35k selling direct to upfitters via an upfitter-pool fleet prices program( not popular with retail dealers) Just no space here to give details. But the point is we need a true redesign Transformer Transit Camper OEM, not a cargo OEM with lipstick called the Transit trail.
Keep dreaming. You are being very unrealistic.
Everyone should be ecstatic you can get a factory lift/upsize tire package from Ford, designed by Ford and warrantied by Ford.
Oh wow you had some single color custom T-shirts printed up and you act like you’re so well known that I should know what AVC stands for so you must be important
We’ve been building Transits since 2017 here at AVC (adventure vehicle concepts). I’ve built vans under two other shops before I started my own.
AVC RIG just fits on a shirt better (and your search bar). We do a lot more than flash our shirts and bloviate. Watch some of our videos. We offer some pretty good info you might learn a trick or two.
Looks good, if you're not to tall or doesn't mind sleeping in a fetal position.
It’s offered in a high roof and ext versions. The build they featured is by Vandoit and I’ve never been a big fan of their stuff.
@@AVCRIG I was referring to the length of the bed.
No hybrid transit, no buying
That would be nice. There’s no hybrid cargo van on the market for now though.
Enough with the side step nonsense.
Agreed
I bought a $10 stepstool for my van. Works perfectly!
I cant even find a regular transit van, the Trail will never be here. Waste of video. My local dealership ordered 2 Trails last Oct 2022 and they still have not seen anything.
I’ve seen some folks on the forum getting them. I know it’s been hard to get any Transit, let alone the Trail edition.
Who asked for dual AGM batteries? nobody
The dual AGM battery is really just to support the vehicle itself. It also comes with the higher amperage CCP and that’s useful for the buildout.
I bet it still rust within months of owning it.
Lol. Probably
Aluminum doesn’t rust
@@pimpdaddy9604 you might want to check the forums for rust. There are other parts that is not aluminum.
And you’re saying rust is not covered under warranty
I can't stand the discount, British Tim Cook.
😂😂
Found on road dead no thanks I'll pass 😂
Can you just listen the engineer explained we don’t need you interrupting the engineer, he’s an chief engineer what you know more than him, your interruption is pretty annoying
Question? I'm thinking about ordering a Ford 2024 Transit Trail in October. I want a removable second row 3 person seat but this van does not have them. So my question is can you recommend an after market removable second row seat for this van? Most of the time I won't want the seat installed into the van, only when necessary.
Our go to seat is from JMG systems in SoCal. We install them here at AVC but you can find a lot of installers on their website.