I share your concern about how Nigel Farage seems to be given a "free pass" by so much of the mainstream media. Thank goodness there is somewhere in the media that the risks Farage and Tice present are being taken seriously.
Nothing clever about being able to do his podcast on a train, you can phone your mother from the top of Everest these days. Might be a nice publicity stunt for Farage which given the death rate on the big hill might be a good suggestion
As someone who has trouble with sensory overload and can get a bit flustered when podcasts have lots of noise, hosts who interrupt or talk over each other, etc the way Rory was so mindful of not flooding the audio with background noise from the train was so appreciated. That and seeing y'all just roll with what was undoubtedly an inconvenient wrench thrown in to the day is refreshing. Even though I'm quite to the left of both Rory and Alistair, this podcast is such a great way to stay informed and hear mature discussion on issues that are increasingly critical to all our countries, no matter where you're listening in from. Hopefully there will one day be a field trip to the States but either way i will definitely plan a vacation to Europe so it coincides with a live show!
London to Cambridge is operated by GTR under the ‘Great Northern’ sub-brand. They also operate Thameslink, Southern and Gatwick Express, they were all merged into one big operator a few years ago.
The Lib Dems are focusing on a smaller number of target seats and specific campaign issues in those seats. In our constituency for example the focus is on water & sewage - Layla Moran was quite clear on the national Lib Dem policy on water on Radio 4. Sadly they, and even the Greens, don't get the same publicity and air time as Farage & Reform though.
Portillo moment coming against Sir Geoffrey Cox KC in Torridge and Tavistock! Labour Isabel Saxby to win! Met her numerous times, a wonderful person who's doing what's best for her community, more than can be said for GC in the Virgin Isles.
I know you're mainly talking about the far right in Germany, but I was saying to people around me that we were becoming far right when the Conservatives and Farage's party were going more right wing, a good 9 years ago and was shouted down as a 'lunatic lefty'
A young family member has just finished his GCSEs and will be taking A'level politics next term so we have been discussing the election and matters around British politics but so his younger brother does not feel left out I have just ordered one of your politics for younger readers for him. Maybe in time it will influence his A'level choices - who knows
It's a little ironic that Alistair fell for the "Biden walking away" narrative from the G7 as it was a carefully clipped video where the person he was walking towards was cut from the shared footage
His bodyguard was arrested for betting on the date of the election, supposedly having overheard Sunak a couple of days before it was called. Please don't phrase things in ambiguous ways that could be interpreted in any number of awful ways. Just give the clear facts
At 30:00, winning marginals with 30% of the vote in a 3 way contest. Of course, it's possible to win the election in a 2-way, with just over 25% of the vote, with your losing opponent getting nearly 75% if you win just over 50% of the seats with 51% of the vote and lose just under 50% of the seats with 0%. In a 3-way election you can win the election with about 17% (i.e. 50% with 33.4% of the vote and lose just under 50% with 0%).
To add to your comments on Israel bombing southern Lebanon…reports on The Guardian of the Israeli Air Force bombing civilian villages on the southern Lebanese coast forcing the occupants to leave their homes and livelihoods: it’s sounding like a deliberate policy of de-populating the area by indiscriminately targeting Lebanese civilians…which itself is a Crime against Humanity but they don’t care, as usual.
Guys, out of interest, is parliamentary politics between parties in reality more like what we see with you two, or more adversarial like we see in PMQs or election campaigns - which as the public is all we can easily see.
The most astonishing aspect of the election campaign is the total absence of focus on the Tories covid record. That alone ought to keep them out of power for a generation.
This supermajority nonsense just shows how entrenched they are in Tory main character syndrome, laughable "exceptionalism" totally out of touch with reality. Their potential demotion to third place doesn't give Labour remarkable superpowers in and of itself. It just diminishes the tories themselves to irrelevance (we can but hope) while labour tussle with the other emerging opposition parties in the usual way.
He already showed them ( showed one, the other is a match apparently) Check the last couple of vids. Nice, although I personally wouldn't have paid that much for them.
You guys should do a podcast from a track day somewhere. Not to vox pop but if you ask folk off camera I bet you'll get a huge spectrum of views from people who share a common hobby and interest.
I think UK's federal health administration should check Lead levels in the water supply of people who voted for Brexit and are planning to vote for conservatives in this election cycle.
What would be really great is if you put aside the the football and election theatrics of Ed Davy to devote more time to talking about what is happening in Gaza, and has been happening for the last 77 years. Today's news could be the beginning of an all out conflict with Lebanon, of which we'll have front rows seats. I'd love to see Rory and Alastair appliying the same level of investigative journalistic detail on this issue as Owen Jones does on his channel. He's brining us the truth, albeit uncomfortable, which is probably why he has over half a million subscribers. People are fed up with polititians/political commentors skirting around the truth and avoiding uncomfortable realties that don't play well with party political agendas. Surely we can move beyond this when people are suffering the worst horrors of genocide. If, as Israel's allies, we get dragged into an all out conflict, ignoring the realities of the genocide in Gaza to safegaurd a few more votes for a particular party may well be at the expense of us all.
Totally disagree with Rory about it being harder to win as an extreme party in “first past the post”. An extreme party can actually overachieve in FPTP if there’s a variety of parties and a mixed result across the board, whereas a system like Australia with preferences really ensures that non centrist parties struggles.
It's compulsory voting that counts against extremists in Oz - most low-engagement punters don't want the political outliers. If you are so inclined you can give a first preference to an extremist knowing that your vote is not wasted via your second and subsequent preference. Under FTTP an extremist _can_ get home when all the moderates score a similar number - which looks like the seat Farage is contesting.
@@davidbrown4849 yes indeed. Both preferences and compulsory voting help big time in Aus. You literally end up with the most preferred candidate from every single eligible voter. That’s what Pauline Hanson got so upset when she lost her seat years ago, despite being ahead in the primary vote. PS: are you from Wollongong??
Rory. Big fan of yours but can you please set the record straight on your views on foxhunting with dogs? It is an abhorrent practice, so cruel. It's something that the wealthy landowners see as a bloodlust sport but dress up as protecting their chickens. Please tell me that you are different from them.... If you support this barbaric act can you clarify why?
I have been considering voting for Reform and your arguments about his policies being fantasy are not landing as you would want. The reason i am drawn to Reform is because they appear to be the only party who want to do something about the extremely high levels of immigration. The government appears incapable of reducing immigration and I suspect they don't want to as it keeps wages low. Nigel is our voice when neither labour nor the tories represent us, and that is why people will vote for him and not care whether his sums add up.
They complain about it, yet have no realistic plan to deal with it. The easiest thing in the world is to stand on the outside and throw stones. Nigel Farage would be devastated if his party won the general election, as he knows how quickly his backers would realise the emperor isn’t wearing any clothes!!
Please stop pronouncing Kim Jong Un as Kim "Yong" Un. Its Korean not German (Js aren't pronounced as Ys). You can call him a lot of things but not Yong.
i think what you guys dont understand is that they have absoulutely humailited the conversative party. the fact he is a manlet, thats humilating. the fact that he has never done a real job in his life, thats disgusting. the fact that he wasnt even elected by anyone other than the mps who are a bunch of feckless fathers and workshys is EXTREMIST. you've also got the fact he isnt even british, and hes talking about immigration, thats insulting. Then you've got the fact he hasnt been around for that long, disgraceful. and to top it all off, he hasnt really done anything, maybe the smoking ban? you know rulers in this country have died for almost being half as bad as one of these things. its one of the many reasons no one will fight for this country. at best its not a country anymore, its a shopping mall. call me a smug elistist, but no one is is going to charge into battle screaming "FOR THE BENTALLS CENTRE!!!!!!!!" for the rest of you reading this comment. I know i am not supposed to look at them but i just cant help it. i am actaully subcribed to alot of pro establishment/leftie channels just to see what they are saying about me. I'd love to be in the room when they both came up with this idea. "hey what we should is just casaully have one of us do the podcast on a train, then they'll think we are like one of us! just like in the tony blair era! he was just like us! oh no rory, i think its best you do it, your more "hip" and i dont really feel like doing it."
You should genuinely be ashamed of how you both ignore what Israel does in Gaza. You’re not even on the fence - it’s like you’re speaking from October 8th
shouldn't broadcast from a train with a bad signal. don't do the brand any good. don't do you any good. most of all makes you look amateur and annoying. like bbc today interviews.
"Unfunded HyperBollocks" should be the new "Omnishambles" 👏👏
😂👏👏👏
I am going to use that phrase about Reform nonsense
Hyper Bollocks is a fabulous term and should definitely go viral.
I need to translate that into French! 😊
This podcast is essential I love the ease and honesty of the chat with you both. Thank you
I share your concern about how Nigel Farage seems to be given a "free pass" by so much of the mainstream media. Thank goodness there is somewhere in the media that the risks Farage and Tice present are being taken seriously.
You both did brilliantly today, not easy when you could have been cut off at anytime.
You both are essential for getting us through
the election.
Technology is amazing Rory is stuck on a train in the middle of nowhere and he can still do his podcast.
Yes, but i thought 1st class QWiFi connection might be a bit better!😂
Of course. But the connection would have been 100x better in any other country.
British train technology certainly isn't amazing.
On in "Great Britain" ah
Nothing clever about being able to do his podcast on a train, you can phone your mother from the top of Everest these days. Might be a nice publicity stunt for Farage which given the death rate on the big hill might be a good suggestion
Alastair's "hyperbollocks" is just the portmanteau we need to describe how absolutely bananas this year has been.
I can’t believe Rory has a signal that strong on a train 😮
It’s stationary - it’s the speed of the train hopping between cell towers that causes connection issues.
As someone who has trouble with sensory overload and can get a bit flustered when podcasts have lots of noise, hosts who interrupt or talk over each other, etc the way Rory was so mindful of not flooding the audio with background noise from the train was so appreciated. That and seeing y'all just roll with what was undoubtedly an inconvenient wrench thrown in to the day is refreshing.
Even though I'm quite to the left of both Rory and Alistair, this podcast is such a great way to stay informed and hear mature discussion on issues that are increasingly critical to all our countries, no matter where you're listening in from. Hopefully there will one day be a field trip to the States but either way i will definitely plan a vacation to Europe so it coincides with a live show!
Thank you again gentlemen, entertaining and informative as usual.
Great conversation guys. I still think you'd cry for Ed Davey, Rory if he was able to come in by parachute and recuse you from your train 😅
Love the phrase "hyper-bollocks"! Going to nick that one, if you don't mind, Alastair.
London to Cambridge is operated by GTR under the ‘Great Northern’ sub-brand. They also operate Thameslink, Southern and Gatwick Express, they were all merged into one big operator a few years ago.
The Lib Dems are focusing on a smaller number of target seats and specific campaign issues in those seats. In our constituency for example the focus is on water & sewage - Layla Moran was quite clear on the national Lib Dem policy on water on Radio 4. Sadly they, and even the Greens, don't get the same publicity and air time as Farage & Reform though.
I think my train from Cambridge to London must have been delayed because of Rory‘s train today. 😮
Rory answered his own question "saw him twice in the newspaper today" - mission accomplished, isn't it. Usually they're just ignored.
Portillo moment coming against Sir Geoffrey Cox KC in Torridge and Tavistock! Labour Isabel Saxby to win! Met her numerous times, a wonderful person who's doing what's best for her community, more than can be said for GC in the Virgin Isles.
There was someone talking to ClassicFM on that train too!
I love listening to you two and that you're on different sides makes it more interesting....!!!!
Rory! I was on the train behind which got cancelled ! Made me take 3 trains to get from Brighton to London
I know you're mainly talking about the far right in Germany, but I was saying to people around me that we were becoming far right when the Conservatives and Farage's party were going more right wing, a good 9 years ago and was shouted down as a 'lunatic lefty'
Our politics is rather broken when we have an unambitious manifesto from the two main parties. Especially starting from such a lowly position.
Why don't you do an empty chair interview with Nigel Farage
I would rather listen to an empty chair than Farage any day.
Alastair, I look forward to buying (and reading) one of your politics children’s books for a 12 year old smart girl I know.
Bought it yesterday! A signed copy 🙌🏼!!
A young family member has just finished his GCSEs and will be taking A'level politics next term so we have been discussing the election and matters around British politics but so his younger brother does not feel left out I have just ordered one of your politics for younger readers for him. Maybe in time it will influence his A'level choices - who knows
Rory, thanks for braving a faulty train journey to make a live podcast. Great topics discussed!
Do any of these polls ask how likely the respondents are to vote on July 4th? Lots of people opine, but how many actually vote.
Good point! We will run a poll on our socials to see
The YouGov poll asks how likely you are to vote
You looked knackered by 10 pm, Rory. Hope you get a good night's 😴
Did Rory get to his event on time?
Xi in Xi Jin ping is pronounced “she” like the cat’s mother 😂
It's a little ironic that Alistair fell for the "Biden walking away" narrative from the G7 as it was a carefully clipped video where the person he was walking towards was cut from the shared footage
Doing a podcast from a broken train. Only way could be more Britain 2024 would be if was on the way back from a cancelled NHS appointment.
I’ve just read one poll which suggests Rishi Sunak could be the first PM to lose his seat.
The John Howard of UK politics. Oh, what a sweet day that was in 2007! How I laughed!
Still laughing about lil Johnny .
where can i find tory attack ad on starmer?
Sunak’s assistant was arrested today… 👏
His bodyguard was arrested for betting on the date of the election, supposedly having overheard Sunak a couple of days before it was called. Please don't phrase things in ambiguous ways that could be interpreted in any number of awful ways. Just give the clear facts
Britain is working
I feel that narrative was well controlled 😂
I've just watched an interview with rory on the ABC in Australia. When are you coming to the land of Oz?
At 30:00, winning marginals with 30% of the vote in a 3 way contest. Of course, it's possible to win the election in a 2-way, with just over 25% of the vote, with your losing opponent getting nearly 75% if you win just over 50% of the seats with 51% of the vote and lose just under 50% of the seats with 0%. In a 3-way election you can win the election with about 17% (i.e. 50% with 33.4% of the vote and lose just under 50% with 0%).
Is Rory nearly there yet?
To add to your comments on Israel bombing southern Lebanon…reports on The Guardian of the Israeli Air Force bombing civilian villages on the southern Lebanese coast forcing the occupants to leave their homes and livelihoods: it’s sounding like a deliberate policy of de-populating the area by indiscriminately targeting Lebanese civilians…which itself is a Crime against Humanity but they don’t care, as usual.
Alastair's shirt matches the bedroom colour scheme.
The suspension is all true!
Guys, out of interest, is parliamentary politics between parties in reality more like what we see with you two, or more adversarial like we see in PMQs or election campaigns - which as the public is all we can easily see.
A is a spot florid today? Take care brother.
The most astonishing aspect of the election campaign is the total absence of focus on the Tories covid record. That alone ought to keep them out of power for a generation.
11:35 special guest appearance by Steve Zissou on Rory’s train
is Rory advising the tory election campaign?
You forgot about Germany
Rory's stalled trsin stands in witness to Labour call for rsil nationalisation!
61%
This supermajority nonsense just shows how entrenched they are in Tory main character syndrome, laughable "exceptionalism" totally out of touch with reality. Their potential demotion to third place doesn't give Labour remarkable superpowers in and of itself. It just diminishes the tories themselves to irrelevance (we can but hope) while labour tussle with the other emerging opposition parties in the usual way.
Anyone remember Boris 8 nuclear plants promise?
"Up to 8" so he kept his promise since 0 is within that bound. 😂
Almost getting great
Rory has taken to the train network in order to not show us all the pots!!!
He already showed them ( showed one, the other is a match apparently) Check the last couple of vids. Nice, although I personally wouldn't have paid that much for them.
@@ruthmeb I missed it! thanks for the heads up :D
Enjoy privatisation, Rory.
You guys should do a podcast from a track day somewhere. Not to vox pop but if you ask folk off camera I bet you'll get a huge spectrum of views from people who share a common hobby and interest.
I think UK's federal health administration should check Lead levels in the water supply of people who voted for Brexit and are planning to vote for conservatives in this election cycle.
Federal what?
👍👍📗📗👍👍
I don’t think the king of spin can get upset about other politicians hyperbole on budgets! Hehe
What would be really great is if you put aside the the football and election theatrics of Ed Davy to devote more time to talking about what is happening in Gaza, and has been happening for the last 77 years. Today's news could be the beginning of an all out conflict with Lebanon, of which we'll have front rows seats. I'd love to see Rory and Alastair appliying the same level of investigative journalistic detail on this issue as Owen Jones does on his channel. He's brining us the truth, albeit uncomfortable, which is probably why he has over half a million subscribers. People are fed up with polititians/political commentors skirting around the truth and avoiding uncomfortable realties that don't play well with party political agendas. Surely we can move beyond this when people are suffering the worst horrors of genocide. If, as Israel's allies, we get dragged into an all out conflict, ignoring the realities of the genocide in Gaza to safegaurd a few more votes for a particular party may well be at the expense of us all.
Rory in First Class, tut tut tut
Yet not a pot in sight!
It’s empty haha…
he is a conservative after all
@@3zObafouzrA posh Tory boy.
He reminds me of a buck-toothed Tommy from a Leo Kessler yarn. 😂
Damn I love that countdown music. Could get you bouncin in a nightclub
Totally disagree with Rory about it being harder to win as an extreme party in “first past the post”. An extreme party can actually overachieve in FPTP if there’s a variety of parties and a mixed result across the board, whereas a system like Australia with preferences really ensures that non centrist parties struggles.
It's compulsory voting that counts against extremists in Oz - most low-engagement punters don't want the political outliers.
If you are so inclined you can give a first preference to an extremist knowing that your vote is not wasted via your second and subsequent preference.
Under FTTP an extremist _can_ get home when all the moderates score a similar number - which looks like the seat Farage is contesting.
@@davidbrown4849 yes indeed. Both preferences and compulsory voting help big time in Aus. You literally end up with the most preferred candidate from every single eligible voter. That’s what Pauline Hanson got so upset when she lost her seat years ago, despite being ahead in the primary vote.
PS: are you from Wollongong??
@@daveb3987 yes
@@davidbrown4849 legend. Good to meet fellow Illawarra Steelers supporters out in the wild haha
Arguably putin preferred the Tory government as they followed his desired policy through Brexit to do what he can to put fractures in the EU
Every time I listen to Farage speak, I do find him making sense. But when it comes to finances, I haven’t got a clue, to call out the BS.
He makes complete sense, it’s true.
(Unless you have a modicum of decency or more than 3 GCSEs).
@@StopTheRotOnly if you are allergic to thinking.
Do you really think they are that logical.
Rory. Big fan of yours but can you please set the record straight on your views on foxhunting with dogs?
It is an abhorrent practice, so cruel. It's something that the wealthy landowners see as a bloodlust sport but dress up as protecting their chickens. Please tell me that you are different from them....
If you support this barbaric act can you clarify why?
"an annual report they do every year' 😅
Thanks for your wisdom and insights. It really is helpful.
alastair please pronounce putins name properly
It’s not amazing that a train is broken down…
I have been considering voting for Reform and your arguments about his policies being fantasy are not landing as you would want. The reason i am drawn to Reform is because they appear to be the only party who want to do something about the extremely high levels of immigration. The government appears incapable of reducing immigration and I suspect they don't want to as it keeps wages low. Nigel is our voice when neither labour nor the tories represent us, and that is why people will vote for him and not care whether his sums add up.
They complain about it, yet have no realistic plan to deal with it. The easiest thing in the world is to stand on the outside and throw stones. Nigel Farage would be devastated if his party won the general election, as he knows how quickly his backers would realise the emperor isn’t wearing any clothes!!
Please stop pronouncing Kim Jong Un as Kim "Yong" Un. Its Korean not German (Js aren't pronounced as Ys). You can call him a lot of things but not Yong.
i think what you guys dont understand is that they have absoulutely humailited the conversative party. the fact he is a manlet, thats humilating. the fact that he has never done a real job in his life, thats disgusting. the fact that he wasnt even elected by anyone other than the mps who are a bunch of feckless fathers and workshys is EXTREMIST. you've also got the fact he isnt even british, and hes talking about immigration, thats insulting. Then you've got the fact he hasnt been around for that long, disgraceful. and to top it all off, he hasnt really done anything, maybe the smoking ban? you know rulers in this country have died for almost being half as bad as one of these things. its one of the many reasons no one will fight for this country. at best its not a country anymore, its a shopping mall. call me a smug elistist, but no one is is going to charge into battle screaming "FOR THE BENTALLS CENTRE!!!!!!!!"
for the rest of you reading this comment. I know i am not supposed to look at them but i just cant help it. i am actaully subcribed to alot of pro establishment/leftie channels just to see what they are saying about me. I'd love to be in the room when they both came up with this idea.
"hey what we should is just casaully have one of us do the podcast on a train, then they'll think we are like one of us! just like in the tony blair era! he was just like us! oh no rory, i think its best you do it, your more "hip" and i dont really feel like doing it."
Ac is so so pro Isreal it’s incredible
still pinching ideas..
Do you both feel awful sleeping at night?
Alastair should be in prison over the iraq invasion.
You should genuinely be ashamed of how you both ignore what Israel does in Gaza. You’re not even on the fence - it’s like you’re speaking from October 8th
shouldn't broadcast from a train with a bad signal. don't do the brand any good. don't do you any good. most of all makes you look amateur and annoying. like bbc today interviews.
You MUST be fun at parties....
Just you mate
@@evonne_oshhhhhhh. He’s a very important guy who is trying to help them out.
(It’s interesting he wasn’t offended by being in AC’s bedroom).