Behringer JT-4000 Micro - Any Good For DAWLESS?
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2024
- This video explores whether the @behringer JT-4000 Micro can cut it as a multi-voice DAWLESS synth in 2024.
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At less than £50, this little beauty can do lush pads and 90's retro trance sounds 'til the cows come home. But can it work without a DAW? Is it a bargain synth destined for your DAWLESS setup, or just a toy???
Great work here! (thanks for the shoutout)
Reminds me I really need to post an update on how to use a cheap microcontroller to achieve the same thing.
Thanks for stopping by Floyd. Love your channel and find it a source of so much useful stuff.
Behringer f'ed up bigtime with no MIDI in. What a nightmare to make it work.
Thanks for your thoughts. I suspect Behringer had their reasons. It’s certainly proven to be a talking point.
Interesting workaround!
Thank you!
I thought so. There are other options but this seemed to be more budget friendly.
This is really cool. Thanks for the info
Anytime my friend.
That's cool! I think that jt-4000 micro can be really great if you already have other gear that you can easily put it in chain with.
Thanks pal. Yeah, its certainly not a standalone device. The keyboard isn’t what I’d call playable - but useful to check the thing works!
The Behringer JT-4000, now with a free degree in ICT/programming, which you'll definitely need in order to use the MIDI in in a DAWless setting!
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Really useful, great detail on connections using the Pi; got a Pi 3B knocking around somewhere unused so this is worth a try.
No worries. I’ve got a Pi 3B now as a dedicated USB midi USB host. It works a treat.
Aconnect is a life saver, thank you for sharing! I got my JT-4000 talking to my MIDI keyboard and my DAW! Even incorporated my Volca Beats from my DAW through my raspberry pi and MIDI drum pads!
Nice one Patrick! So chuffed it’s been a help.
I used a Akai MPC One + for this work around .😀
Yeah, I’ve heard this was a thing. Apparently some other grooveboxes work in a similar way. Thanks for stopping by.
@@3dims Also did it with the Pro VS Mini too lol but yeah it works great
Fantastic, worked perfectly!
Nice one!
Works on the KORG Nu:Tekt too
@@kenfuller9907 which is perfect as you only need one power supply.
Out of the box MIDI routing in the Raspberry Pi?! Who knew! Awesome, thanks for the walkthrough. I wonder if it works on a Pi Zero as I have a few of them laying around (plus they are cheaper, albeit need an external USB hub to connect the devices into it)
No worries. I’ve been experimenting with the Pi to use more of its power, so expect to see this original idea expanded upon.
Pi Zero should work fine, its such a tiny amount of computation to route the MIDI data compared to what the Pi Zero is capable of. You are correct about the powered hub I'm sure too
Thanks for stopping by and letting us know your thoughts.
I bought one on a whim and quickly sold it. It is a neat device, but even with workarounds like this, it is almost literally a VST in a box. I could only see myself using it with a Max4 Live programmer/librarian in my DAW, and at that point I might as well just be using a VST anyway.
Fair enough. If there wasn’t an analogue filter then I’d be right there with you. For me, the filter makes the JT-4000 good VFM.
so cool
Thanks dude!
Cool video, another thing worth mentioning is a few midi merge boxes have a usb midi out now, even some audio interaces have usb midi out now aswell, i have a arturia minifuse4 andnit has 2 ports in the back that can handle midi, audio and memory cards
Thanks for adding these points
The other option I will try out in the future is using AUM on the iPad Pro I have. This should work DAWLESS, but I felt the Pi was one of the more cost effective options, so decided to plump for a video show casing this in the first instance.
Interesting. I hardly have a clue about these things, but I'm interested. So what does SSH mean?
SSH is a way of remotely sending commands to the Raspberry Pi without having a screen and keyboard plugged into the Pi. Sounds more complex than it is.
@@3dims Thank you!
what version of linux are you running on the pi ?
It’s the 32bit flavour of Raspbian.
The number of people, purely dawless is minute. Most people who play out live will have a laptop or ipad in the mix BUT.. For the minimal cost to Behringer, they should have put 3.5mm midi ports on it.. And of course they know that this would inspire lots of UA-cam videos on the matter.. Whats the ole saying? Any publicity is.... 😂
That’s refreshing to hear… I’ve moved between Dawless and hybrid over the years, but if you read some of the comments on my last video you’d think not having midi in was the living end. There may be some truth in leaving stuff out, either to encourage upsell or discussion.
it conects to the swing easy enough without all that pie programming business
Ah cool. I also hear MPC One works without a MIDI Host. Unfortunately I have neither of these. Thanks for letting us know.
I tried the KeyStep and it will not work
This how you deal with a sound you like, I have had a lot of fun with mine, I didn’t go as far as yo did, but I have ordered what I need to make it MIDI, one guy says it’s a toy? I’m having some gum with it, this will be my first time adding MIDI capabilities I’ll have a total of 4, I don’t know if I can turn it 16 voices, going to try. It’s just for fun and a learning experience I’ll be adding a user made osilator, for fun. I’m doing it for any other reason!
Nice one. Glad to hear you are seeing past the diminutive size and getting some interesting stuff out of yours. I have been considering getting a 2nd, but will hold off for the time being as I’ve still got more exploring to do.
Should have used a micro controller.
I’m sure you are right, but I can only use what I have.
When I use a raspberry pi 2 I hear interference sound. Anybody knows how to solve that?
I would suggest having a look at the RPi 2 power supply. I find that different USB plugs are better at isolating electrical interference than others. What are you using?
@@3dims I use a Samsung Phone power supply.
@@evertmeurs can you try another power supply? Maybe a USB power bank if you have one? That could help you isolate what's generating the noise.
@@3dims I now have a different problem. When I turn on my raspberry pi and my jt4000 is also connected, my jt4000 starting to play random sounds. When I try to play on my midi keyboard no midi connection and the jt4000 keeps making random sounds. Is my raspberry pi broken or something?
That’s a bit odd. My suggestion would be to try a fresh install of the OS. Could be a spot of corruption on the SD card which is creating some weird effects. Let us know how you get on…
dude its a toy.
Absolutely. Awesome you can make cool tunes with a toy these days!
So were the 303 and 606. Cheap plastic boxes. Doesn’t mean they aren’t useful and can’t sound good…
100% agree. I drew the same 303 comparison in a previous comment (on another video). I aslo got to thinking about how LFO use a Speak & Spell on their eponymous track, so we are in good company :)
Anyone who thinks that way doesn't deserve one anyway.
@@SpeccyMan 😂😂😂