Dog Brothers vs PTK-SMF | Tuhon Philip v Tuhon Tim Waid: Double Knife Fight!
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Tuhon vs Tuhon - in this episode we have Pekiti Tirsia Kali standouts from PTK-SMF and Dog Brothers Canada/GAMMA in a double knife fight!
Who do you think won and why? Leave a comment below!
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As you get older, you learn to let the fight come to you. 🙏
A dog Brother spars hard and often ...not taking anything from tuhon waid but that's a hard opponent to fight against regardless of someone's standing in their system...that's why boxers are hard to beat...they bang gloves more often than their martial arts counterparts.
I am pretty sure phillip has had boxing training, he goes body jab-right body hook-right hook to the head-right uppercut- right hook to the head and lands ALL of them. if this man has no boxing experience I will never talk about martial arts online ever again.
@@daanvandijk166 strikes are universal brutha. Those strikes patterns you mentioned are actually part of the Qol de mama, Sabayan drill and use the basic strikes of PTK knife. His strikes did not come from boxing, but they exist in boxing.
I don't think that is Tim Waid. Arms not veiny enough and no tattoo on the arm.
😂
Tim was 0 in real fight 😅, he is only bla, bla, bla😅
Tim strike like a stick, not like a knife.
walks a lot and even runs. but cannot reach the target and hit. Bad work with knives. I'm disappointed
Technically it looked superior ---- but in application it fell short. Just wasn't his day that day.
@@FMASource I don't think so. If U told about Tim. There are not defense techniques and tactics in his movements. Only run. IMHO. May be it is a PTK problem. Not defense, only attack.
@@SteelFistClub That is what makes it better. You don’t want to think defense with weaponry or fighting in general.
@@FMASource True, both Tuhons are great, and Tim is a powerhouse, and sparring is always a difficult thing, philip did the right decisions to be more defensive, and you clearly can see he knewed whats coming, offensive vs Tim would be suboptimal, because philip would play Tim's game then and he would have a lot harder time to get his points or go to the vital spots, Tim has mastered this for decades..
This was really good content. Not useless commentary, effective slow motion and pointing out details.
You’re welcome. I think I filmed the original video.
Blade flighting- blade rules... Tuhon Philip ended the bout on first contact.
No question. But even if we gathered data from the entire fight and extrapolated information from all clashes...Philip wins.
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What sucks about FMA is the fight ends in about 3 seconds with a knife stuck through on someone's face. This is total badass. Me like it long time. :)
Either one can easily kill me, but it's hard to come back from getting stabbed that hard in the neck. Respect to both gentlemen though.
Title should be Pekiti-Tirsia vs. Pekiti-Tirsia.
Good knife sparring video. Our training group does: single stick, double stick, & espada Y daga sparring, kickboxing & dagger sparring. We haven't tried double knives yet
It can be a lot of fun. Personally, I haven't spent much time on it as I am currently focusing on single knife. One day I will put more time into it.
Tuhon Philip won as he strikes first deadly strike into the neck and also strikes more than Tuhon Tim and his strikes is more accurate. Tuhon Philip seems to be having more control overTuhon Tim.
Good point about controlling the fight. You'd think it's the guy moving around more...and it sometimes that's the case. Just not in this case.
Awesome breakdown. Love that first contact. Tuhon Philip won just because of that. Has that been his style?
Tuhon Philip, like all of us are multi-dimensional...but if I were to characterize his style it would be to say he is versatile.
It would be interesting to see your training routine 🤺?
I'm not saying I'm better or saying that I can beat Tuhon Tim. I respect his title and rank but the more I watch this video the more I see he telegraphs his attacks and leaves himself open to attack.
I respect his rank, it is well earned.
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This is a very very old video. Rematch this in 2021 and you’ll see a much different fight.
Michael McLean does it matter? Would love to see a rematch.
Both are old guys now .Tim gotta be in his 50s and Philip damn near 80. So no..let's not rematch this...
This ain’t it chief
Philip wins on points no doubt. I'd think if hypothetical cut wounds were the measure, Phil "dies" after Tim. Draw?
If you want to infuse "reality conditions" to this, we can. And it might even be fun, but let's not take it too too far.
So, yes --- there is a possibility that both die. However, after the first clash Tim sustained critical, life threatening injuries. Everything depends on how quickly they can mitigate blood loss and make their way to emergency room. Philip needs first aid. Now...as the fight progresses...certainly they both die.
Tim actually lands a very good shot towards the end --- it was mutual but Tim got the advantage there.
In reality the first 3 seconds of contact Tim died and Tuhon Philip is fine, if Tuhon Philip trusts would have been for real, Tim slash would have been very weak if it happens at all
Getting a 6 inch blade right in the jugger would instantly end the fight
Nice techniques
But I missed the Turkish slaps
What happened guys?
Tim waid has a very flowery fencing kind of style. He also trains with a lot of non stick contact with that messes up distance training and it shows here. He should have known better that dancing around and slashing doesn't work against simple thrusts. He failed to defang the snakes with his slashes to nowhere instead of the arms and then rebounding to the face. rebounding to the face ..
Fight him
Tim swings bad, Philip just waits, and simply stabs
Why no one of this two masters uses at least one of the moves teached in kali knife drills (hubud, palasut, etc) (*1)? I've seen this happened in other kali knife sparring videos.
Why the situations that those drills represents never happen? When in the close distance they just try to stab and cut his opponent first, or go to the clinch.
I know that drills are not the real combat; that the prupose of drills is to gain reflexes, speed and coordination. But why train so much (*2) to improve atributes that they will not use in a fight?
I'm a kali practitioner too, but this questions are taking me away from the art and i'm not receiving satisfactory answers from other masters. That's why i am asking this to you master Rubio, i'm searching for anwers. Thanks.
*1 Example: permanent contact between the fighters arms during a parry with the armed hand.
*2 If those drills were trained more sporadicaly there be no problem, but they are one of the more frecuently trained drills in FMA.
When there is real pressure and real intention, the aesthetics of technique fade and are replaced by their core principles.
@@FMASource Yeah but why we don't just practice only the core principles and movements that we will do under pressure, instead of loosing time with drills and movements that we will not use.
HEMA, creolean fencing and italian stiletto schools also have some limb destructions like attacks, they are not like olympic fencers who only target the body, but even without the supposedly essential kali corto mano drills those styles are very effective in knife combat.
Great video Paulo. I can’t believe I did not watch this three years ago. Or I may have but forgot. I’m old.
Tuhon Phillip won in my opinion.
Thank you for the video and the comments!
Who cares who won! It was a great fight between two highly skilled man and broken down by a good analysis. Much thanks !!!
Absolutely! There are no "winners" ---- we as the audience wins by learning from this match. But also, Tuhon Philip won ;)
You can def tell that Philip has put in the hours sparring / fighting. Great distance reading, knows what to ignore, and lands those thrusts.
Well both men are very great and the one who teaches combat knowes its a two way deal The guy who held his space was using far differant energy ~ Wow
what great mastry both winning and loosing multable times in a single battle is real
In my opinion Tuhon Philip won
Who won this knife encounter? ... no doubt it were the spectators!
Two top-notch fighters, paired with a great fight commentator made it such an instructive video.
Thanks a lot for that!
They both learn from the same guy :)
Hi mr Rubio, what does the SMF stand for in tuhon Waid’s ptk system.
*It wasn't power but "kilos"*
😂 Philip continues to sacrifice his life to get the strike 😂 why?
this is the beauty of FMA. it is not about the volume of strikes, but the lethality. A fatal blow is more than a thousand throws.
That's Mike there ! 🤗
callind waid tuhon?
Tuhon Philip won.
Wow!
Philip is such a powerhouse regardless of what weirdness is thrown at him.
I noticed Tim’s index fingers on both hands were in the classic “L”.
I’m surprised they weren’t broken in some of the exchanges.
Great breakdown as always bro!
I sometimes hold it like that whenever I am just out of range --- I don't even know why. I guess it's very comfortable to casually hold it like that. But when the range closes and it's time to bang...full grip, tight.
I learned this lesson the hard way at the 2019 Pintados Knife Championship. I was fighting a much stronger, bigger person and I had to deliver more power --- well, I ended up jamming my thumb and it was wrecked for almost 6 weeks.
@@FMASource no doubt! Its sticking out just bagging to get hurt.
Great video btw bro!
This has to be at least a decade old right? I remember going to Tuhon Waid seminar seven years ago and his arms were tatted up.
@@methodtraining we were noticing the same thing . This really showed a different version of tim ppl are used to seeing in his demos.
Tuhon Philip
This is an old video
Sled Dog!
Little boy playing with Daddy Philip. Practice more kid!
How many times have you spar with Tim?. Zero. It’s easy to be on the Internet, isn’t it?