Exercise in critical thinking - 41:00. About Amir Khusrau canonizing Hindustani music. That all of the swara akshara are in sanskrit and the nes of Ragas too in Sanskrit. What's more plausible?. 1. That Amir Khusrau was secular enough to name them in sanskrit. OR 2. They already existed and Amir Khusrau continued in an existing tradition that preceded the Mughals /Islam. It's an easy choice without blinkers on. It is soft peddling of the narrative that culture was somehow introduced after the advent of Islam in the Indian subcontinent. It's just folk lore history that promotes Islmaicist supremacy buttressed by leftist historians and brown colonials.
Thanks for saying this. I'm a khadi boli speaker. And even many centuries before Amir khushro tulsidas wrote in poetic khadi boli. Kabir composed Dohas. Meera Bai sang many songs. Amir khushro is a latter addition but Marxist and Islamist tries to make him some kind of pioneer which he was not.
Dear Shahzad, I hope this letter finds you in good health and high spirits. First and foremost, I want to express my utmost respect and admiration for the incredible work you do. As a regular listener of your podcasts, I am always amazed by the wisdom and insights you bring to the table, despite your relatively young age. Your words resonate deeply with me, and I believe many others feel the same. Recently, while watching your podcast with Danyal Sheikh, I was deeply moved by your candid discussion about your personal journey, particularly when you shared your experience of emotional breakdown and burnout. It takes great courage to open up about such struggles, and I want you to know that your vulnerability is not only appreciated but also serves as a source of inspiration for countless individuals, myself included. In your conversation, you touched upon the prevailing hardships faced by the people of Pakistan, especially the rising inflation and the challenges of survival. It is a painful reality that many of us can relate to. However, amidst these difficulties, your voice stands out as a beacon of hope and resilience. Your sincerity and dedication to addressing the issues that plague our society are commendable. I want you to understand, Shahzad, that your impact goes beyond the screens and the podcast episodes. You have ignited a spark within many of us, urging us to rethink our mindsets and work towards a brighter future for Pakistan. Your ability to shed light on the need for change and transformation is truly remarkable, and it is this quality that makes you a wise person in the eyes of thousands, including myself. Please remember, Shahzad, that for every individual who expresses their appreciation openly, there are countless others who silently draw inspiration from your words. Your work has the power to touch lives and instill a sense of purpose within those who listen attentively. You have become a catalyst for change, and your influence reaches far and wide. While the journey you have embarked upon may be demanding, I implore you to stay steadfast and resilient. Your efforts are not in vain, and your voice has the potential to bring about the transformation our society so desperately needs. Your authenticity and passion have already sparked a shift in mindset among many, and we are here to support you every step of the way. On behalf of the numerous individuals who appreciate your work, I extend my heartfelt gratitude to you, Shahzad. You are an inspiration, and your words have the power to kindle hope and determination within us. Please take care of yourself and know that you are not alone in your endeavors. With utmost respect and gratitude, Saeed Risalat
46:00 Hindustan/ much of North India and Pakistan was ruled by Sultans and Mughals for several centuries, can you really say these kings & empires except few were as tolerant as the Hindu kings towards different schools of Arts? For example destruction of idols, sculptures and paintings was a very common thing during invasions, and after the invasion was done it wasn't much promoted like it would have been under a Hindu or Buddhist empire. I disagree with biased hindutva history and their portrayal of Muslims kings , but can't you give little credit to a religion and culture which has always allowed several ideologies, arts and school of thoughts to nurture? It's not same same , three is a reason why 80% hindu country became a secular democracy in 1947.
30:35 is a very touchy and sensitive topic that resonates in India as well. Fortunately many of us have held on to our diversity of languages, culture, food, culture etc - despite a counter current of an imposition of one language-one identity. People who migrate from one part of the country to another, in search of opportunities, do not want to learn the local language. On the other hand if they migrate to Germany or France they are perfectly ok to learn French or German. This needs to go away. Once you migrate to another part of the country or world - seeking a livelihood : you necessarily need to learn the local language - be it Sindhi, Pashto, Odiya, Bengali, French, Marathi or Getman
Loved the previous podcasts and this one too ❤❤ I hope Indus Blues is successful and keeps the tradition going. Love Areib Azhar and people like him trying to preserve our multifacted culture, I hope truly wish that they succeed; rooting for them. Thank you Shehzad and TPE for giving these people the spotlight they deserve ❤❤❤
Shahzad , your podcasts have become a permanent part of my life. It took me some time before I started liking them but now I throughly enjoy them. You are doing a great job & I have learnt so much from you. Keep doing it & don't ever get discouraged by anything ❤
There is a huge correlation between Hindu Sanatani culture and the effects of psychedelics...it pushes people towards yoga, meditation, vegetarianism, nature, love, compassion, non-violence, consciousness...in a way towards Sanatan or Hinduism. Psychedelics were banned by Nixon cuz America was going so much towards eastern Sanatani culture and refusing to go on Veitnam war...psychedelic revolution is coming again with so many authentic research shows tremendous benefits...
dude it was banned by Nixon because of Ganja and drugs that came along with it, Hippies were getting high and singing HareRama HareKrisha and some of them still do.Looks India is becoming second class Pakistan and Pakistan is getting enlighten and saying let's not solve every problem with Islam
What is Hindu culture? There is Indoo ( indus valley Sindh) culture, There are Gujrati, Bengali, Punjabi , Baloch, Pashtun, Tamil, Katnataka, Kerela, Nagaland, Manipur, Odissa, Rajsthan , Mizoram etc cultures.
@@sabrinakhan8217 Hindu is geographical term for this region so it is definitely Hindu culture, and for your kind information there was no Indoostan or Indoos ,it is Hindustan,Hindus and India,Indians.
It is part of culture in southern and eastern states of India to teach your child classical music or/ and classical dance. The family takes great pride in this endeavour.
So fascinating! Just a suggestion - why don't you do a chronological history episode of from the times of indus valley till today and what all conspired in the culture here in south Asia. Will show where everything comes from.
Lol that would be a death wish in a place like Pakistan. Just look at what they did to Salman Taseer. And now millions believe Taseer's killer lives in heaven
46:20 It was nor "South Asia" nor "Indian" culture. This is "Sanatan" civilisation. the Mazaar care point which you raised was due to Sanatan Culture. you will not find anything in Muslim World. Music, Culture etc. what is left in Pakistan are the remnants of Sanatan Civilisation. In countries which are converted long back, you will not get these things.
Again, at 36:00 , this is exact Sanatan Civilisation and concept. Which is different from Abrahamic Religions. God is within us says Sanatan while in Abrahmic Religions, gods resides in different dimension.
@@maazakram6236 sahi baat bhai sahab. Karnatic music , Samaveda ( jisko origin of music bhi bolte Hain ), natya Shastra , veena , damru , Shri Krishna ki bansuri , Natraj nritya, ancient India ka ( vada , Gita aur nritya ) ka concept ye sab to exist hi nahi krta tha? Podcast me bhi inhone respected khusro ki baat ki asal me unhone kuch modifications kiye , kuch naye raag banaye the , ijaat nahi Kiya tha .
I really appreciate your videos for reasons more than only entertainment!!! Your discussions not just interesting but also eye opening in terms of the views on the other side of the border!!! Keep up the good work!!!❤
To be very honest, I'm enjoying these non-political podcasts on TPE more than the political LEFT-RIGHT, PTI-PML-PPP-Establishment, etc. topic ones. Please see if you can bring more such guests on your show. The wealth of knowledge that Arieb Azhar has and the love for his craft is just superb!
I'm really Glad that you made prominent that fact that as a Pakistani we can all be Sindhi, Punjabi, Pashtoon Baloch, Siraeki... and I think you should Invite Sardar Shah or Ayaz Latif Palejo for Sufism and Sindh's History and Cultures, Legacy... People need to know that.
Or sare gama pa ka. Use isliye kiya tha kyuki.. Original jo yeh sab ke origin hai. Woh ek religion books se hai. Or usne ussi ka use kiya tha.. And the saraswati name is also mention in rig veda...
Jizya wasn't imposed becoz of intermingling of cultures on non Islamic cultures,temples weren't broken becoz of it,khilji and ghauri etc contemporary writers confirmed that he destroyed somnath becoz he wanted to break a symbol of Indian culture!!
Social media was started way back when doctors encouraged parents fighting rare diseases to communicate with other families online and post pages by writing and self publishing thier findings and they would try to figure out how to treat and survive that's a culture
Always wondering about the end music note. Is it copied or own production. Please share details if there in an extended version available or full track.
#junaidakrambhi #muzamilbhi #daniyalbhi #shehzadbhi #naeembhi #moroobhi #podcast I love these guys all. #podcast #askganjiswag I learned new things, whenever I watched podcat of them. These guys changed my mind about Hindu & English peoples etc. I had the toxic thinking about these peoples (as per our old culture teachings ) , but now I am the completely change about these are all . Love U So much (Best personalities in Pakistan #junaidakramsir #muzamilbhi #daniyalbhi #shehzadgbhi #naeembhi #moroobhi #podcast) #irfanjunejobhi
EUROPEANS WERE VERY ADVANCE IN ART AND MUSIC. AND THEY REALIZED IT LONG TIME BACK HOW IMPORTANT "MUSIC AND DANCE" IS FOR SPIRITUAL AND PHYSICAL GROWTH. THIS IS THE REASON THEIR IS ALWAYS A "MUSIC TEACHER AND PIANO" IN OLDEN SET UP OF "CLASS ROOMS". I LOVE TO DANCE AND SING BUT ALONE AS I AM NOT GOOD, BUT AS FAR AS I ENJOY I DO NO CARE FOR MY "AUDIENCE"SAME WAY INDIANS ARE WHO PROMOTE DANCE AND MUSIC IN BEAUTIFUL WAYS.
Honestly, despite being skewed in favour of anti-PTI forces, I still used to listen and analyze these podcasts. With passing time, I literally have come to the conclusion that Shehzad Ghias' discourse is often bereft of logic. Yesterday, even a sixth-grade kid was wearing mirth on his face on how stupidly Shehzad posited some argument. I swashbuckled him on Twitter and got blocked.😂😂
44:37 umm my brother in christ Pakistan is built exactly on that ideology. The Two Nation Theory what are you even on about? More than that you'll always find the hindus trying to merge in but never the Muslims because monotheists have that "superiority" ingrained in them for reasons I dont really understand.
Thanks for the wonderful conversation. From the podcast I gather that both of your are in agreement that culture and ideas in general are an emergent phenomenon, arising from group interactions. Assuming that I rephased the idea of your conversation correctly, does that not mean that ideanity being a cultural product also arises from the group. So where does it leave space the self to exist.
@vishalchauhan009 yesterday your major gaurav arya said that Hinduism even existed during the hunter-gatherer period 🤣 10000 years ago we worship same God ( mahadev ) as today ...it means mohenjodaro were Hindus
Correction: Hz Amir Khusro was never the head of Chishti order, the mantle was passed to Hz Nasiruddin Chiragh Dehlavi by Hz Nizamuddin Auliya Rest, bhai Shehzad title main add kardein the philosophy of drugs, LSD aur baki chooran ki baatein bhi tou theeinn :D
as muslim, let me tell u something. in India, has existed the santan dharma (dharma not= religion), literally means, eternal laws. here ppl only cared about the true nature of existence and did not care for belief systems hence produced a scientific outlook free from existing biases hence you see natyashastra for example which is totally scientific. on the other hand islam is belief system, which has killing of kaafirs and apostate as part of duties hence produced aurangzeb and khilji. by romanticizing islam stop justifying the murdering cult that it is.
“It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.” - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
Interesting conversation. I might not agree with completely central Asian cultures merger with indigenous cultures. Because that process also destroyed many existing Indian cultures, which were developed organically like Nalanda Library by Bakhityar Khilji. Anyway Interesting podcast, Shehzad. As a musician, I like the conversation.
“Science is constantly proved all the time. If we take ... any fiction, ... and destroyed it, ... that wouldn't come back just as it was. Whereas if we took every science book and every fact and destroyed them all, ... they'd all be back because all the same tests would [produce] the same result.” Ricky Gervais
Hello Shehzad bhai. Hope you are doing well. I am a big fan of you and you are a most unbiased podcaster always talks with hidden facts and perspective. I would like to request you to please invite Dr. Ishrat Hussain and talk about his book "Governing the Ungovernable". This book has many flaws and it is like our PST books(fabricated history). I respect him alot but want clarification on topics he wrote on this book. Thank you so much. Hats off to your content 🫡
That composite and syncretic order of public life is indeed Indian and not south Asian. Temples of Multan are in dire condition and pak archeology dept is scared to restore them due to fear of islamist reaction. Attempt at revisionism is appreciated but only do it to acceptable extent and don't stretch it too much.
Sir apne history sahi se nhi padi.. Kyuki puri muslim history me yehi dekha gaya ki hindus ko betray kiya.. Baki ap 2 3 logo ko utha ke yeh kaho ge ki Sare muslim bhi ache the toh phir kya keh sakte hai.. Or bro ek baat or muslim ke khilaf hate nhi hai.. Lekin yeh history isko kuch or nhi bana sakte.. Or India ka oldest name is not hindustan which is from indus river. Balki aryavart and bharat varsh are the oldest name of India which is well documented history..
what is the state of Classical music in Pakistan? , In India Hindustani music is dominated by Muslims such as Ustad Bissmilla Khan (My favorite) Zakir Hussain, Bade Ghula Ali Khan, Begaum Parveen Sultana to name few
Bassss.......... shuru kar diya. Itne lambe interview sunne ke baad bhi tumhara aqal nahin khula kya? Ab bhi Music ke andar Tu Tu Mein Mein kar rahe ho? 🙄
@@meghdiip8503 Yaar Itne Time Kahan Ke Theen Ghanta Ka Interview suNo, I just go with highlights, we always hear Qawwali and Sufi singers and never heard of Hindustani Classical singer which is my interest.
Islam means "submission to will of God", NOT "submission to will of Maulvis". Islam is a beautiful religion that understands the human condition and seeks tolerance and compassion from it's believers. Surah Al-Baqrah, Ayat 62: "The [Muslim] believers, the Jews, the Christians, and the Sabians- all those who believe in God and the Last Day and do good- will have their rewards with their Lord. No fear for them, nor will they grieve." (2:62) The rest of the Quran dealt with waging war against Kuffar because there was no option left for the Muslims. Charter of Madinah literally considered Jews as part of the Ummah before they became hostile towards the Muslims, and made Madinah difficult to live in. Not a single Pakistani Mualvi points this out, even though it's known by scohlars in other Muslim Coumtries. Mazrat kae saath, bajae nafrat pehlanae kae, aur bagair sochae samjhae doosron ki baat ko pehlanae kae, Quran aur SAHIH Hadith parh lo aur khud cheezain samjho. Peace ✌
If God wanted everyone to have the Same belief system, He would have done so. Differences in faith are a part of Gods holy scheme and anyone who tries to impose his belief on others is disrespecting God and His wisdom. Shams of tabriz (RA)
Yar can u also do a video on "Karachi Affair". It is the Agosta Submarine scandal that has also recently resulted in arrest of then French President and same is allegedly related to 1st suicide bombing in Karachi and most importantly, a naval chief was indicted by NAB and then had to undergo a plea bargain. Since its election year and the issue is hot in France as well bcz the dead french engineer families are still seeking justice, can u like do a video on what the hell is this scandal and who is responsible bcz Benazir, her Investment Minister and Defense Minister had went together to sign this deal but no one talks about them, Maleeha Lodhi's brother, its just a very embarassing and complicated scandal probably spearheaded by the Defense Minister. The navy intelligence who caught this kickback scandal and Mansur ul Haq the chief who made plea bargains all pointed fingers at the Defense Minister who isnt being questioned and literally most of the money is still untracked despite the Chiefs plea bargain with which 2 years of naval salaries were paid. Its on wikipedia called Karachi Affair, very embarassing scandal named after our city. Commented on ur prev video of Karachi Police case but I think this is recent so u may read my comment, sorry for irrelevance as regard this video topic.
Hinduo se war nahi thi par Mhaare mandir ese hi tode. Sirf hidu nahi jain or buddh mandir bhi ese hi tod die waah 👍😂. Mai Rajasthan se hu koi Ibrahim lodhi ke saath nhai lada Chicha .Akbar ka general Sikh tha 😂 waah Sawai Raja Man Singh Jaipur ke pariwar se the. Kuch sahi se padh lia kro Chicha.
Music and swara always existed in indian culture. According to hindu mythology Sarswati is goddes of music and wisdom who carries veena(sitar like instrument). Music and art is considered devine in hindu culture.
Shehzad are u serious of protecting dargah was a South Asia thing..😆😆😆..okk just show me one temple in Pakistan that is protected like that....I think you need to learn about your religion....
Well, in those areas like in Thar where Hindus live, you find respect of places of worship. There is also active community support. This is also for certain Sikh Gurdwaras, like Nankana Shahab, Kartarpur, Panja Shahab..etc But yes, there are also temples that are completely deserted and not kept well as a complete migration of the Hindu population took place. Just like muslim mass migration happened in East Punjab etc.. As to Dargah culture, well, it is sort of a composite culture. So it's not actually comparable with a masjid or mandir
@@user-rh5jp2sh4s composite culture has a boundary I hope understand...I don't have to explain to you about abrahamic religions and Hinduism I guess... Think in a wider perspective..
@@yjkbuddy Talking of ground realities.. like for e.g many Hindus also vist shrine in Sehwan Sharif of Laal Shahbaz Qalandar, similarly Muslims vist shrine at Odero Lal So that happens on ground but sure, can have long religious, theological debates but that won't change realities
"BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL", MORE OVER BEST MUSIC AND DANCE IS FROM AFRICA AND ALSO THEIR INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS. IN USA NO ONE MAKES THEIR FUN. MOSTLY NEW IMMIGRANTS FROM AFRICAN COUNTRIES ARE VERY WELL EDUCATED AND MOSTLY ARE IN "MEDICAL INDUSTRY"NO ONE MAKES FUNOF "PATHANS", I STAYED IN PESHAWER ALSO IN ABBOTTABAD AND I KNOW WHAT THET TALK ABOUT PUNJABIES AND HOW MUCH THEY FUN OF US. THEY ARE HIGHLY RACIST LIKE PEOPLE FROM KARACHI(URDU SPEAKING" AND I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
Shazad. Either you don't know history, or you are fed wrong stories, or you are plain lying. Also call it indian subcontinent, not south Asian. I can see your bias.
Exercise in critical thinking - 41:00.
About Amir Khusrau canonizing Hindustani music.
That all of the swara akshara are in sanskrit and the nes of Ragas too in Sanskrit.
What's more plausible?.
1. That Amir Khusrau was secular enough to name them in sanskrit.
OR
2. They already existed and Amir Khusrau continued in an existing tradition that preceded the Mughals /Islam.
It's an easy choice without blinkers on.
It is soft peddling of the narrative that culture was somehow introduced after the advent of Islam in the Indian subcontinent.
It's just folk lore history that promotes Islmaicist supremacy buttressed by leftist historians and brown colonials.
For those folks who don't get it yet.
Ask yourself, why a poet who reveled in persian composition would suddenly choose to borrow sanskrit words..
+100
Thanks for saying this. I'm a khadi boli speaker. And even many centuries before Amir khushro tulsidas wrote in poetic khadi boli. Kabir composed Dohas. Meera Bai sang many songs. Amir khushro is a latter addition but Marxist and Islamist tries to make him some kind of pioneer which he was not.
Dear Shahzad,
I hope this letter finds you in good health and high spirits. First and foremost, I want to express my utmost respect and admiration for the incredible work you do. As a regular listener of your podcasts, I am always amazed by the wisdom and insights you bring to the table, despite your relatively young age. Your words resonate deeply with me, and I believe many others feel the same.
Recently, while watching your podcast with Danyal Sheikh, I was deeply moved by your candid discussion about your personal journey, particularly when you shared your experience of emotional breakdown and burnout. It takes great courage to open up about such struggles, and I want you to know that your vulnerability is not only appreciated but also serves as a source of inspiration for countless individuals, myself included.
In your conversation, you touched upon the prevailing hardships faced by the people of Pakistan, especially the rising inflation and the challenges of survival. It is a painful reality that many of us can relate to. However, amidst these difficulties, your voice stands out as a beacon of hope and resilience. Your sincerity and dedication to addressing the issues that plague our society are commendable.
I want you to understand, Shahzad, that your impact goes beyond the screens and the podcast episodes. You have ignited a spark within many of us, urging us to rethink our mindsets and work towards a brighter future for Pakistan. Your ability to shed light on the need for change and transformation is truly remarkable, and it is this quality that makes you a wise person in the eyes of thousands, including myself.
Please remember, Shahzad, that for every individual who expresses their appreciation openly, there are countless others who silently draw inspiration from your words. Your work has the power to touch lives and instill a sense of purpose within those who listen attentively. You have become a catalyst for change, and your influence reaches far and wide.
While the journey you have embarked upon may be demanding, I implore you to stay steadfast and resilient. Your efforts are not in vain, and your voice has the potential to bring about the transformation our society so desperately needs. Your authenticity and passion have already sparked a shift in mindset among many, and we are here to support you every step of the way.
On behalf of the numerous individuals who appreciate your work, I extend my heartfelt gratitude to you, Shahzad. You are an inspiration, and your words have the power to kindle hope and determination within us. Please take care of yourself and know that you are not alone in your endeavors.
With utmost respect and gratitude,
Saeed Risalat
Saeed bhai thank you so much ❤❤❤❤❤❤😭😭😭😭
I second your sentiments word for word.
46:00 Hindustan/ much of North India and Pakistan was ruled by Sultans and Mughals for several centuries, can you really say these kings & empires except few were as tolerant as the Hindu kings towards different schools of Arts? For example destruction of idols, sculptures and paintings was a very common thing during invasions, and after the invasion was done it wasn't much promoted like it would have been under a Hindu or Buddhist empire. I disagree with biased hindutva history and their portrayal of Muslims kings , but can't you give little credit to a religion and culture which has always allowed several ideologies, arts and school of thoughts to nurture? It's not same same , three is a reason why 80% hindu country became a secular democracy in 1947.
Andhe age royen apne Nayan khoen
What can you expect from these ignorant kids born out of a tutored fake culture
Agreed
30:35 is a very touchy and sensitive topic that resonates in India as well. Fortunately many of us have held on to our diversity of languages, culture, food, culture etc - despite a counter current of an imposition of one language-one identity. People who migrate from one part of the country to another, in search of opportunities, do not want to learn the local language. On the other hand if they migrate to Germany or France they are perfectly ok to learn French or German. This needs to go away. Once you migrate to another part of the country or world - seeking a livelihood : you necessarily need to learn the local language - be it Sindhi, Pashto, Odiya, Bengali, French, Marathi or Getman
Loved the previous podcasts and this one too ❤❤ I hope Indus Blues is successful and keeps the tradition going. Love Areib Azhar and people like him trying to preserve our multifacted culture, I hope truly wish that they succeed; rooting for them.
Thank you Shehzad and TPE for giving these people the spotlight they deserve ❤❤❤
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Shahzad , your podcasts have become a permanent part of my life. It took me some time before I started liking them but now I throughly enjoy them. You are doing a great job & I have learnt so much from you. Keep doing it & don't ever get discouraged by anything ❤
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There is a huge correlation between Hindu Sanatani culture and the effects of psychedelics...it pushes people towards yoga, meditation, vegetarianism, nature, love, compassion, non-violence, consciousness...in a way towards Sanatan or Hinduism. Psychedelics were banned by Nixon cuz America was going so much towards eastern Sanatani culture and refusing to go on Veitnam war...psychedelic revolution is coming again with so many authentic research shows tremendous benefits...
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dude it was banned by Nixon because of Ganja and drugs that came along with it, Hippies were getting high and singing HareRama HareKrisha and some of them still do.Looks India is becoming second class Pakistan and Pakistan is getting enlighten and saying let's not solve every problem with Islam
Nice Theory but not just Hindu culture but Native pagan culture as well. Auvasca is a psychedelic drink pioneered by Amazonians.
What is Hindu culture? There is Indoo ( indus valley Sindh) culture, There are Gujrati, Bengali, Punjabi , Baloch, Pashtun, Tamil, Katnataka, Kerela, Nagaland, Manipur, Odissa, Rajsthan , Mizoram etc cultures.
@@sabrinakhan8217 Hindu is geographical term for this region so it is definitely Hindu culture, and for your kind information there was no Indoostan or Indoos ,it is Hindustan,Hindus and India,Indians.
It is part of culture in southern and eastern states of India to teach your child classical music or/ and classical dance. The family takes great pride in this endeavour.
And which part of india do you think Hindustani classical music and kathak are taught?
46:46 Sindh Rivier originates from India
There has never ever walked a more humble and down to earth person than Arieb Azhar.
A refreshing dive into music, spirituality, psychedelics and culture of this region. Thanks.
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So fascinating! Just a suggestion - why don't you do a chronological history episode of from the times of indus valley till today and what all conspired in the culture here in south Asia. Will show where everything comes from.
Lol that would be a death wish in a place like Pakistan. Just look at what they did to Salman Taseer. And now millions believe Taseer's killer lives in heaven
it is Indian subcontinent not south asia
Keep doing the good work sir 👏 🙏 👍
46:20 It was nor "South Asia" nor "Indian" culture. This is "Sanatan" civilisation.
the Mazaar care point which you raised was due to Sanatan Culture. you will not find anything in Muslim World. Music, Culture etc. what is left in Pakistan are the remnants of Sanatan Civilisation. In countries which are converted long back, you will not get these things.
Again, at 36:00 , this is exact Sanatan Civilisation and concept. Which is different from Abrahamic Religions. God is within us says Sanatan while in Abrahmic Religions, gods resides in different dimension.
aby islamic golden age mn music instruments bnay gay thy snatani mn music kha sy aagya
@@maazakram6236 sahi baat bhai sahab. Karnatic music , Samaveda ( jisko origin of music bhi bolte Hain ), natya Shastra , veena , damru , Shri Krishna ki bansuri , Natraj nritya, ancient India ka ( vada , Gita aur nritya ) ka concept ye sab to exist hi nahi krta tha?
Podcast me bhi inhone respected khusro ki baat ki asal me unhone kuch modifications kiye , kuch naye raag banaye the , ijaat nahi Kiya tha .
I really appreciate your videos for reasons more than only entertainment!!! Your discussions not just interesting but also eye opening in terms of the views on the other side of the border!!! Keep up the good work!!!❤
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To be very honest, I'm enjoying these non-political podcasts on TPE more than the political LEFT-RIGHT, PTI-PML-PPP-Establishment, etc. topic ones. Please see if you can bring more such guests on your show. The wealth of knowledge that Arieb Azhar has and the love for his craft is just superb!
Arieb Pahi IS Zabardast!
No more and no less!!!
1:02:23 it’s so sad to see that our folk dance and music is withering away.. 😢😢
I'm really Glad that you made prominent that fact that as a Pakistani we can all be Sindhi, Punjabi, Pashtoon Baloch, Siraeki... and I think you should Invite Sardar Shah or Ayaz Latif Palejo for Sufism and Sindh's History and Cultures, Legacy... People need to know that.
I like the fearlessness of the guest. More power to him.
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@@urrasscal8380 I have no idea what you are on about. I assume you are implying that I'm a muslim and " kauwa biryani kha" is suppose to be a slur?
@@urrasscal8380 unwanted gyan to tum free may bant rahey ho ... rakho apne pass, shaied apkay kam aajai
Or sare gama pa ka. Use isliye kiya tha kyuki..
Original jo yeh sab ke origin hai. Woh ek religion books se hai.
Or usne ussi ka use kiya tha..
And the saraswati name is also mention in rig veda...
Fascinating conversation.
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There are similar name ragas always in Carnatic music like bhairavi, kalyani etc
admire your guests and the diverse topics u facilitate and encourage
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Seven swara comes from SAMVEDA one of the four Vedas.
Sam means song
SAMVEDA teaches song in the praise of lord.
Thanks for introducing us to Arieb Azhar. I loved listening to Shamrock Rovers.
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Nice change from toxic politics and delving into deeper issues
correction - classical tamil literature like sangam is older than sanskrit
Your guest had a fine knowledge of indian culture.. ❤
Jizya wasn't imposed becoz of intermingling of cultures on non Islamic cultures,temples weren't broken becoz of it,khilji and ghauri etc contemporary writers confirmed that he destroyed somnath becoz he wanted to break a symbol of Indian culture!!
Shahzad has bought one shirt and never changed. Btw Love you Man❤
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Wow!very refreshing ! Respect from India
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Social media was started way back when doctors encouraged parents fighting rare diseases to communicate with other families online and post pages by writing and self publishing thier findings and they would try to figure out how to treat and survive that's a culture
Absolutely love hearing arieb talk.. would love to see him on his own podcast.
This episode is commendable.
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Always wondering about the end music note. Is it copied or own production. Please share details if there in an extended version available or full track.
#junaidakrambhi #muzamilbhi #daniyalbhi #shehzadbhi #naeembhi #moroobhi #podcast I love these guys all. #podcast
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I learned new things, whenever I watched podcat of them.
These guys changed my mind about Hindu & English peoples etc. I had the toxic thinking about these peoples (as per our old culture teachings ) , but now I am the completely change about these are all . Love U So much (Best personalities in Pakistan #junaidakramsir #muzamilbhi #daniyalbhi #shehzadgbhi #naeembhi #moroobhi #podcast) #irfanjunejobhi
EUROPEANS WERE VERY ADVANCE IN ART AND MUSIC. AND THEY REALIZED IT LONG TIME BACK HOW IMPORTANT "MUSIC AND DANCE" IS FOR SPIRITUAL AND PHYSICAL GROWTH. THIS IS THE REASON THEIR IS ALWAYS A "MUSIC TEACHER AND PIANO" IN OLDEN SET UP OF "CLASS ROOMS". I LOVE TO DANCE AND SING BUT ALONE AS I AM NOT GOOD, BUT AS FAR AS I ENJOY I DO NO CARE FOR MY "AUDIENCE"SAME WAY INDIANS ARE WHO PROMOTE DANCE AND MUSIC IN BEAUTIFUL WAYS.
49:27 to ye Guest pehle Atheist the past me and abh kya hai? Muslim hai ya Chrsitian ya bs Deist
Thank you for bringing Arieb Azhar sb on the show. . . 1.5 hr discussion was really short time for such guests.🎙️📄📚👍👍🙏🙏
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Honestly, despite being skewed in favour of anti-PTI forces, I still used to listen and analyze these podcasts. With passing time, I literally have come to the conclusion that Shehzad Ghias' discourse is often bereft of logic. Yesterday, even a sixth-grade kid was wearing mirth on his face on how stupidly Shehzad posited some argument. I swashbuckled him on Twitter and got blocked.😂😂
44:37 umm my brother in christ Pakistan is built exactly on that ideology. The Two Nation Theory what are you even on about? More than that you'll always find the hindus trying to merge in but never the Muslims because monotheists have that "superiority" ingrained in them for reasons I dont really understand.
I love and live for what UA-cam did for make up artists
Thanks for the wonderful conversation. From the podcast I gather that both of your are in agreement that culture and ideas in general are an emergent phenomenon, arising from group interactions. Assuming that I rephased the idea of your conversation correctly, does that not mean that ideanity being a cultural product also arises from the group. So where does it leave space the self to exist.
INDIA oldest name was Bharatvarsha not Hindustan...the name hindustan was given laters by Persians...
I think it is written in Hindu texts
@@umroyaar NO
@vishalchauhan009 yesterday your major gaurav arya said that Hinduism even existed during the hunter-gatherer period 🤣 10000 years ago we worship same God ( mahadev ) as today ...it means mohenjodaro were Hindus
Mein name ki baat kr rha hu
Oldest name Bharatvarsha aur Aryavrat
@@umroyaar so from where does swastika sign came in indus valley civilization?
I LOVE TO DANCE "LUCKY SEVEN" OLD BRITISH FOLK DANCE. BUT I DO LOVE ABIDA PARVEEN , NUSRAT FATEH ALI, AND MYSELF( ALONE)
A seemingly innocent looking topic that will be fire
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Sindhu flows into Pakistan from India.
45:05 "akbar ki faoj ka sipahsalar sikh tha"????😂😂😂,,, vo maan singh tha jo rajput tha rajasthan kaa,,😂😂😂
Correction: Hz Amir Khusro was never the head of Chishti order, the mantle was passed to Hz Nasiruddin Chiragh Dehlavi by Hz Nizamuddin Auliya
Rest, bhai Shehzad title main add kardein the philosophy of drugs, LSD aur baki chooran ki baatein bhi tou theeinn :D
as muslim, let me tell u something. in India, has existed the santan dharma (dharma not= religion), literally means, eternal laws. here ppl only cared about the true nature of existence and did not care for belief systems hence produced a scientific outlook free from existing biases hence you see natyashastra for example which is totally scientific.
on the other hand islam is belief system, which has killing of kaafirs and apostate as part of duties hence produced aurangzeb and khilji.
by romanticizing islam stop justifying the murdering cult that it is.
You guys need to have subtitles in English. I am sure it would increase your subscribers, massively .
Thanks
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“It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.”
- Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
Awesome!
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Interesting conversation. I might not agree with completely central Asian cultures merger with indigenous cultures. Because that process also destroyed many existing Indian cultures, which were developed organically like Nalanda Library by Bakhityar Khilji. Anyway Interesting podcast, Shehzad. As a musician, I like the conversation.
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A man of wisdom
EVEN SCIENTISTS DISCOVERED IF YOU PLAY MUSIC NEXT TO PLANTS THEY GROW FASTER(LIGHT MUSIC)
Good brave channel😊
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ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IRISH BRITS AND SCOTS IS TO FIND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "SKIRT WITH OUT UNDER WEAR AND BRITISH WITHOUT POTATO HEAD".
The interview should have been for atleast 3 - 4 hours long so that more cultural things could have been covered, but thanks anyway for this podcast.
“Science is constantly proved all the time. If we take ... any fiction, ... and destroyed it, ... that wouldn't come back just as it was. Whereas if we took every science book and every fact and destroyed them all, ... they'd all be back because all the same tests would [produce] the same result.”
Ricky Gervais
Bhai ye culture waali baat hi south asia ke muslims ko samaj nhi aati, sab se sab arabi bnna chahte hai, baaki jagah ke muslims aise nhi hai
yay tum log khty ho muslim ny aj tk ni kha hum arabi han ya turk
You belong to the same filth. Trying to impose narratives on others .
Hello Shehzad bhai. Hope you are doing well. I am a big fan of you and you are a most unbiased podcaster always talks with hidden facts and perspective. I would like to request you to please invite Dr. Ishrat Hussain and talk about his book "Governing the Ungovernable". This book has many flaws and it is like our PST books(fabricated history). I respect him alot but want clarification on topics he wrote on this book.
Thank you so much. Hats off to your content 🫡
Sure thing
Thank you ❤❤❤
1:22:09 aare bhaiya south north east west hamre liye hai...apke liye bs India hai😂😂🤦
29:54 isme buri baat kyun nahin hai
Geust ji ka awaj to raza murad(ind) jaise hai.....nice
Hey Shehzad, would love for you to bring Shahbaz Taseer on your podcast! Please consider my request 😊🙏🏻
That composite and syncretic order of public life is indeed Indian and not south Asian. Temples of Multan are in dire condition and pak archeology dept is scared to restore them due to fear of islamist reaction. Attempt at revisionism is appreciated but only do it to acceptable extent and don't stretch it too much.
Kabhi kabhi koi koi Pakistani log bhi samajhdaari ki baat kar lete hain. Keep it up.
Plz invite kushal mehra to discuss the idea of hindtva and indian politics🙏🙏
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Old persian and sanskrit are two dialects of the same language.
Please invite Jai vardhan singh he is from JNU and has a vast knowledge on Ancient india Historian.
His voice matches closely to Raja Murad
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Shahzad sir! You are cute😌
1:04:58 phir to apki langri qoum he 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Sir apne history sahi se nhi padi..
Kyuki puri muslim history me yehi dekha gaya ki hindus ko betray kiya..
Baki ap 2 3 logo ko utha ke yeh kaho ge ki Sare muslim bhi ache the toh phir kya keh sakte hai..
Or bro ek baat or muslim ke khilaf hate nhi hai..
Lekin yeh history isko kuch or nhi bana sakte..
Or India ka oldest name is not hindustan which is from indus river.
Balki aryavart and bharat varsh are the oldest name of India which is well documented history..
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@@urrasscal8380 toh is hisab se..
Sare American iskcon hindus bhi indian honge 💀💀
what is the state of Classical music in Pakistan? , In India Hindustani music is dominated by Muslims such as Ustad Bissmilla Khan (My favorite) Zakir Hussain, Bade Ghula Ali Khan, Begaum Parveen Sultana to name few
Bassss.......... shuru kar diya. Itne lambe interview sunne ke baad bhi tumhara aqal nahin khula kya? Ab bhi Music ke andar Tu Tu Mein Mein kar rahe ho? 🙄
@@meghdiip8503 Yaar Itne Time Kahan Ke Theen Ghanta Ka Interview suNo, I just go with highlights, we always hear Qawwali and Sufi singers and never heard of Hindustani Classical singer which is my interest.
Go read Quran and Hadith, clearly written you can’t be frnd with Kafir or non Muslim…in fact you gotta always try to convert them or atleast hate them
What the actual fuck.
Islam means "submission to will of God", NOT "submission to will of Maulvis". Islam is a beautiful religion that understands the human condition and seeks tolerance and compassion from it's believers.
Surah Al-Baqrah, Ayat 62:
"The [Muslim] believers, the Jews, the Christians, and the Sabians- all those who believe in God and the Last Day and do good- will have their rewards with their Lord. No fear for them, nor will they grieve." (2:62)
The rest of the Quran dealt with waging war against Kuffar because there was no option left for the Muslims.
Charter of Madinah literally considered Jews as part of the Ummah before they became hostile towards the Muslims, and made Madinah difficult to live in. Not a single Pakistani Mualvi points this out, even though it's known by scohlars in other Muslim Coumtries.
Mazrat kae saath, bajae nafrat pehlanae kae, aur bagair sochae samjhae doosron ki baat ko pehlanae kae, Quran aur SAHIH Hadith parh lo aur khud cheezain samjho. Peace ✌
If God wanted everyone to have the Same belief system, He would have done so. Differences in faith are a part of Gods holy scheme and anyone who tries to impose his belief on others is disrespecting God and His wisdom. Shams of tabriz (RA)
Yar can u also do a video on "Karachi Affair". It is the Agosta Submarine scandal that has also recently resulted in arrest of then French President and same is allegedly related to 1st suicide bombing in Karachi and most importantly, a naval chief was indicted by NAB and then had to undergo a plea bargain. Since its election year and the issue is hot in France as well bcz the dead french engineer families are still seeking justice, can u like do a video on what the hell is this scandal and who is responsible bcz Benazir, her Investment Minister and Defense Minister had went together to sign this deal but no one talks about them, Maleeha Lodhi's brother, its just a very embarassing and complicated scandal probably spearheaded by the Defense Minister. The navy intelligence who caught this kickback scandal and Mansur ul Haq the chief who made plea bargains all pointed fingers at the Defense Minister who isnt being questioned and literally most of the money is still untracked despite the Chiefs plea bargain with which 2 years of naval salaries were paid. Its on wikipedia called Karachi Affair, very embarassing scandal named after our city. Commented on ur prev video of Karachi Police case but I think this is recent so u may read my comment, sorry for irrelevance as regard this video topic.
sindh nadi Ladakh main india main behti hai!
Invite young stunners..Talha anjum and Talha yunus
Hinduo se war nahi thi par
Mhaare mandir ese hi tode.
Sirf hidu nahi jain or buddh mandir bhi ese hi tod die waah 👍😂.
Mai Rajasthan se hu koi Ibrahim lodhi ke saath nhai lada Chicha .Akbar ka general Sikh tha 😂 waah Sawai Raja Man Singh Jaipur ke pariwar se the.
Kuch sahi se padh lia kro Chicha.
Split kee football team Ka naam Patta hota a to Banda impress ho. Aik zamaanay mein bhee Europe mein khailtee ree hay.
Music and swara always existed in indian culture.
According to hindu mythology
Sarswati is goddes of music and wisdom who carries veena(sitar like instrument).
Music and art is considered devine in hindu culture.
Father of akbar Chaudhary?
No
@@ThePakistanExperience mein tu joke karrha tha😅🤣
" Tum Yug Yug Jio Maharaaj Re
Hum Teri Nagariya Aaye " .....
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shehzad bhai do pod cast only on altaf hussain and history of mqm and 90 detailed.....
We did one recently with laurent gayer
@@ThePakistanExperience Aftab Iqbal
bhai apane culture wala psychedelic ka jikr karana bhul gaye.. since your discussion was about our culture..
Shehzad are u serious of protecting dargah was a South Asia thing..😆😆😆..okk just show me one temple in Pakistan that is protected like that....I think you need to learn about your religion....
Well, in those areas like in Thar where Hindus live, you find respect of places of worship. There is also active community support. This is also for certain Sikh Gurdwaras, like Nankana Shahab, Kartarpur, Panja Shahab..etc
But yes, there are also temples that are completely deserted and not kept well as a complete migration of the Hindu population took place. Just like muslim mass migration happened in East Punjab etc..
As to Dargah culture, well, it is sort of a composite culture. So it's not actually comparable with a masjid or mandir
@@user-rh5jp2sh4s composite culture has a boundary I hope understand...I don't have to explain to you about abrahamic religions and Hinduism I guess... Think in a wider perspective..
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Talking of ground realities.. like for e.g many Hindus also vist shrine in Sehwan Sharif of Laal Shahbaz Qalandar, similarly Muslims vist shrine at Odero Lal
So that happens on ground but sure, can have long religious, theological debates but that won't change realities
Bob Dylan invited some Baul singers from Bengal to the US to learn from them.
Weed was part of this culture of subcontinent.
"BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL", MORE OVER BEST MUSIC AND DANCE IS FROM AFRICA AND ALSO THEIR INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS. IN USA NO ONE MAKES THEIR FUN. MOSTLY NEW IMMIGRANTS FROM AFRICAN COUNTRIES ARE VERY WELL EDUCATED AND MOSTLY ARE IN "MEDICAL INDUSTRY"NO ONE MAKES FUNOF "PATHANS", I STAYED IN PESHAWER ALSO IN ABBOTTABAD AND I KNOW WHAT THET TALK ABOUT PUNJABIES AND HOW MUCH THEY FUN OF US. THEY ARE HIGHLY RACIST LIKE PEOPLE FROM KARACHI(URDU SPEAKING" AND I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
Ye Shi hai hai pak mein rt wing soch walo ko aive hi lt label kardete hai
Shazad. Either you don't know history, or you are fed wrong stories, or you are plain lying. Also call it indian subcontinent, not south Asian. I can see your bias.
At least they are starting, keep calm, don't start attacking like abrahamics
hum sab ek hi the to paxtan banaya hi kyun 😂?
Javed Jaffery
South Asia o you mean Bharat haha