spacer increases WOT max: +2.5 hp +8 ft/lbs and... +5 hp & +5 ft/lbs torque throughout mid-range That's a huge increase for just a spacer. Good job bro. Thank you for uploading this video, it is very informative
I was almost deterred by all the haters on throttle body spacers...I think $75 is not a bad investment for what I've consistently seen 5-10hp and 5-10ft-lbs across multiple different types of vehicles, thanks for taking the time to do this testing!
I was in a similar boat, honestly. I have no idea why it is generally accepted that these parts don't do anything. Maybe certain ones don't do anything or they don't work or work well with certain applications. But, clearly, it works here! No problem!
Data=@3:17 Stock Sound=@0:38 Spacer Sound=@2:38, I hope this helps everyone to hear the comparisons! Tbh the spacer makes it louder and even better in my opinion but the second part was filmed near exhaust of car, no way to know without a sound reader near engine with before and after readings. Either way Great video and thanks for making it!
You are very welcome. No, I did not need to do that. The car functioned just fine for me after the TBS install. However, maybe I should have. I planned to get a K Tuner after installing an intake or exhaust or whatever else, but didn't stick with the car long enough to make that happen.
Everyone always tries to say the 9G Sport is underrated from the factory, but your results are the same that I’ve seen on our rollers. 160whp from 190bhp is about a perfect 16% drivetrain loss on your stock run, about what is to be expected from a modern drivetrain setup. The car does feel strong for a 190 HP car even in stock trim, but once tuned they really wake up. We typically see around 190whp with a PCD and intake/tune. Stock Sport exhaust is plenty of flow for the engines requirements so you really don’t gain anything but noise going after the cat. The stock intake on this car is well designed also, but there is a little power to be had at WOT with a good intake after playing with fueling and MAF scaling a bit. Solid information here brother.
Thanks man! I have been wanting someone to do this very test for a long time. My butt-dyno told me this very info for a while, but I have always wanted evidence. I sensed the same results, top end there’s not much difference. But part throttle and low end torque is definitely improved. Great test!
thanks for putting through a dyno test as well for undeniable facts. you've earned a like and subscription. getting a TBS to complement my SRI and J2 Engr high flow exhaust system.
Thanks man for the video and the dyno test results. I was skeptical about purchasing one but after seeing this video well I just ordered me one. I know it will go hand in hand with my K&N cold air intake. I have 2015 Honda Accord EXL V6 Sedan so I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with the results also. Thanks again for the real actual results. 👍
No problem! My whole reason for creating the video was to determine whether TBSs actually work! By the way, I have heard that some cold air intakes do not fit perfectly with a TBS installed. So, you may have to get some additional hardware to make it work. Good luck!
Hey Samir, I have a 2014 2.4 Accord lx. I'm wondering what the part# is for the spacer you used. Is it 46-37001?Also, is your throttle body a KEIHIN? Mine has a #2 just below the name. 2013-2015 and I think 2016 the 2.4 seems to have not changed. For some reason I'm having trouble with finding a throttle body spacer for 14 Accord.Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks for the great video.
I don't remember the part number, but if you are having trouble, just look for the 2012 Honda Civic Si throttle body spacer, it uses the same engine as the 4 cyl. Accord.
Nice video! You may also consider installing a longer pcv hose. The extra volume gives the same effect as the spacer, but cheaper with a much lower risk of vacuum leak.
Ur using the afe throttle body spacer they say they get rid of the "annoying whistle" which i like lmao but since it works might as well try it on my 2015 colorado 2.5 liter intake tune,e85 and exhaust :) might just dyno to see numbers
I am not sure how easily a TBS would fit your application, since you have an aftermarket intake. I have heard that people with both a TBS and an intake needed to built or add a bracket extension.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals yeah yeah I think you're right when I first got my intake it was an inch Too Short the bracket so I still have that maybe it will fit if I have to I might have to cut or custom make a bracket I mean if it shakes a little I don't think it would hurt anything
@@garynapoli3042 In my 1996 Honda Civic, my Password:JDM carbon fiber intake is only attached to the throttle body. I don't have any additional bracket. The intake has literally just been floating in my engine bay for years. But getting a custom bracket made shouldn't be difficult, either.
Now add the Sprint booster to get rid of the drive by wire lag to the throttle body and you will be amazed. I bought a Sprint booster for my '13 Accord V6 M/T and it got rid of any lag due to the electronic throttle response and that car was already very immediate with application of throttle. Costs around $300 no matter the car!
I will admit that I haven't done my research on that, but I feel like the problem it is designed to resolve can also be resolved via electronic tuning. I would say that, if you were planning on building your car more than just a little bit, you would be better off cost-wise with a tuner from Hondata or K-Tuner. With those, you could do a lot more, as well. I will have to look into these, though. Thanks for bringing them to my attention!
So this throttle body spacer would add some actual HP increase? Got a 2017 accord sport and want a bit more power increase. Got a intake but don't seem to get much but like 2-3 HP. Thanks.
Yes, it definitely does. The difference is not noticeable, but maybe it would be a little bit with the intake. Just keep in mind that the TBS will move your intake a little bit. So, if you don't have much room to play, you may have to modify the placement of the intake's mount. One of my friend's had this problem occur with his aFe Takeda intake.
Interesting video man. I have a different car which is 2015 Mazda 3 2.5l but I am debating whether to buy throttle body spacer from afe power. But after doing some research and reading forum, some people believe its waste of money claiming they don't do anything. Do you think throttle body spacer works depending on the car?
Well, I only have evidence that a TBS increases power on Honda K24 engines. However, I don't see any reason why a TBS wouldn't work for a Mazda 3. The big problem with TBSs is that they don't make enough of a change for you to notice anything. Your car won't feel faster and, unlike with some other modifications that sometimes don't add much power (like cold air intakes),your car won't sound faster. So, spending $100 for no noticeable difference is a kind of a waste, from that perspective. Of course, if you want some additional power which is easy to obtain, since a TBS is easy to install, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get one.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals Ahh I see your point. Yea some people believes its better to spend on something else like ecu tuning which I understand that, but I kind of don't want to do that. I will modify my car but not turning into 100% racing car. Maybe way later in the future but I doubt it. Looks like I'll debate myself little longer. Thanks for quick reply!
Hey do you notice any difference while driving ? I have a 2015 accord sport CVT and I have another car but I plan to use this car as a daily driver and I like the fuel economy that the car have but I want at least a little more power nothing crazy, and I want to see if this make a difference that at least you can feel
To be completely honest, no, there is no noticeable difference when driving or in terms of fuel economy. If anyone tells you they feel a difference, it is only psychological. If you gave the car to someone who didn't know the TBS was installed, they would have no idea you did anything to add power.
@@B8_ghostt No problem! The primary purpose of this video was to test a TBS, and to determine whether it actually made any difference. On paper, at least, it does.
I honestly thought spacers were a scam, but that's quite a jump for such a small item. Just recently added a CAI on my Focus, so I may get one of these and see how it feels
@@81quiroz Nothing else aside from the TBS. I didn't get very far into this build before my 1996 Honda Civic got fixed. At that point, my parents took over the payments on the Accord.
Well, if you wanted to try that, you would need to get extended bolts. The spacer comes with extended bolts to replace the stock ones, but you couldn't put another one on there without finding ones that were even longer haha. I do wonder how that would work, but I doubt it would do much more anyway.
Well the spacer basically adds more air into your engine so you can just get a aftermarket intake manifold and that would increase soo much more hpw than adding a bunch of spacers
The only complaint I really have is that when u do a Dyno sheet the reason you do 3 runs is because you average them together. That's what needed to happen to get the most accurate data. Not just the highest power run that's out there.
Would recommend throttle body spacer for the G37s. I do have cai . Header and full cat back exhaust . Will I see additional benefits from the spacers ,
@@torvarrisevans3961 That's the thing, I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make with an intake, specifically. I have seen no evidence of this, but I feel like an intake would eliminate the benefit of the TBS.
I am maybe off topic. But I had a question for the Honda accord sports. Have they made any turbo kits out there for them already? I like the 2016 accord sport manual and was thinking of different options of putting in more power. I haven't seen or herd of a turbo accord sport out there just curious.
+Victor Rivera Technically, any car that is gas or diesel powered can have a turbo setup. Some cars, like Honda Civics have a lot of companies make turbo kits for them specifically, however, a lot of cars do not have this luxury and require a custom setup where you buy the turbo, piping, intercooler, and everything else separately and then get it all to fit. I know someone with a 2014 Honda Accord V6 with a custom turbo set up making over 400 hp, however it usually costs more to do a custom set up like this because you will most likely need a shop to fabricate all of the piping and such.
3-5hp doesn't seem much. But considering, its a simple mod for a N/A vehicle, that's actually not bad for simply bolting in a helix spacer. I got a CAI and at custom cat-back on my Spec-V, so I am curious to see if a spacer really does actually do something. Nice to see people actually dynoing these and not just saying "oh it adds power." Course to add, I love some companies say you get 22hp just by adding this on to your throttle body. Needless to say, don't believe that, there is no possible way that these could do that.
Yeah, for what it is, I was honestly surprised by he results. I've seen numbers as outrageous as "10% increases" in power. It's insane to think they could do that much. I mainly just wanted to do this to myth bust these.
Did you only get supplied one gasket for the tbs? If so, what did you apply on the side without the gasket so there wouldn't be any vacuum leaks? Thanks
@@ProjectStreetRoyals Good to know and it would be a good idea to mention that in your videos in my opinion. Just so people know what the average numbers are before and after . Thanks for the video though it had good info 👍 and sorry to make suggestions, probably annoying you but thats not my intention. I know you can't make everyone happy . Lol
@@saulgoodman9193 I realize that now. I didn't put much thought into that 6 years ago. I didn't even think this video would take off like it did. I just wanted to make a short little deal explaining that a TBS provides a tiny benefit haha. I am certainly not annoyed by the suggestions. I definitely appreciate them! You are correct though; not everyone will be happy with anything I do lol.
So, this was bone stock without a cold air intake? If so, that's impressive! I'm a Mustang guy, but this video makes me want to pick one up. Low end torque is where the 3.7 v6 needs the most improvement. Sorry PSR. May have lost your last reply. I deleted and reposted because my phone wouldn't let me edit :|
Sum Dood It's all good man! Yeah, this thing doesn't even have a cold air intake, just a throttle body spacer, with an intake, it could have another 5 or 6 horsepower.
I have not seen any dyno results for these cars when they have both a TBS and an intake. I imagine there would still be gains from adding an intake, but I am unsure of how many gains there would be. If you go to aFe's website, they estimate what kind of power increases you should see from the intake, alone. Those numbers would probably be a decent indication, as long as you subtract a few horsepower and lb. ft. of torque from them.
Thanks!! I have a new pre owned Honda Civic 2013 lx coupe and my ability to merge into traffic is hazardous. Car is fun to drive but with not a whole lot of power to safely drive into thruway I have plans to put in new air intakes, new exhausts, throttle body spacer and better wheels hoping this would help!! Any suggestions is welcomed!!!
So tou are looking strictly for performance modifications? I would recommend the company aFe Power and their Takeda Intake and Dueal exhaust. Then get an Rv6 downpipe and K tuner programmer!
Mscellobass I know what you mean! I have 2013 Honda Accord Sport CVT and it's very hazardous when merging into traffic on the Highway especially when Econ Mode is on. When Eco mode is on I have to nearly plant my feet to the ground and let the engine scream in order to get up to speed and not get hit from behind or side swept. I just now usually turn off eco mode and it helps acceleration a little bit more. It's the CVT that makes throttle response slow from a start. Next car I will buy will be the Honda Accord V6 regular Automatic or another car brand 4 cylinder with a regular automatic. No more CVTs for me from now on. Too hazardous. Safety > MPG. Honestly, my mom's 2009 Honda Accord 4 cyl EX regular auto is way faster and get up to speed without being hazardous. Not to mention, it's more fun too. Honda definitely cut costs and corners and made their new cars substandard all around. It definitely shows in comparison.
I honestly do not understand the whole "lack of power or throttle response" issue here. I NEVER drive in auto and if you want a quicker throttle response, drive in "S" or "Sport" instead of regular "Drive." Uses a bit more gas, but is much sportier with a faster acceleration.
+MatTZI014 Use the paddle shifters to shift down right 2 gears before you are ready to accelerate onto the highway...the car has near 190 horsepower and does 0-60 in around 8 seconds....its plenty fast for daily driving.
Yes, this is a part from aFe and I don't have a downpipe. Also, Idaho does not do any inspections except for emissions, and in my area they don't even do that haha.
Will a throttle spacer fit if I already have a takeda intake. Or will it push the takeda past its proper positioning. Is it worth it to get both. Cus the intake already gave me +13hp for 100 bucks idk if I should justify the 2hp less on midrange
+Jay Bisky It will fit, but you will have to "modify" the placement. I know people that have just gotten a couple of brackets and a bolt to extend it back to the original spot, so it won't be impossible. And having both definitely will not be a mistake if you want more power, but if you are just looking for "bangs for you buck", then no, don't get both.
hi dude, i know its been a while but just wondering if you still have the dyno sheet for this session? or if you remember the change in the way the power/torque line progress before and after the TBS install? rather than how much power it increases, i am more interested in if it had any effect on smoothing up the lines and such
Hi, I very much apologize for the late response. For some reason, your comment was blocked, and I only now noticed it. I do have the dyno sheet, and I would love to share it with you. Do you have an Instagram?
Nice result can't wait to get 1 for my car....when you bought the spacer does it come with hardwares for installation, like longer bolts to replace the stock bolts....thanks for sharing this video man...👍🏼
You're welcome! Tried to make this as simple as possible. I always hated not getting quick, straightforward answers from UA-camrs, and that's what prompted my approach in this video.
The car has, unfortunately, been totaled by a family member somewhat recently. However, no, it did not have any other intake modifications, at the time.
Awesome video! I have two questions.. I have a 2014 Honda Accord Sport CVT, I would like to upgrade it but Im not quite sure what to do as well as what my limitations are. So I could get a throttle body spacer, a performance intake system, a RV6 downpipe, & an exhaust system to maximize my performance without harm? Secondly, where can I find the throttle body spacer for my car?
+Henry Chinique Yes, you will not harm your car. Now, if you were thinking of doing much more than that (internals, upgraded block, turbo, etc.) then you would need to consider swapping to a manual transmission. It's not a good idea to put much more than 230-250 hp on the CVT trans because it is not meant to handle a lot of power. You can find the throttle body spacer on afepower.com.
+Josue Quintero I am not in possession of the car anymore, however, for the front, you need to remove the front bumper. However, if you break off the old emblem, you don't need to remove the bumper. For the rear one, you need to remove the trunk lining and then un-clip the rear badges from the inside.
hey man so i was wondering what kind of mods you have on your car i just bought a certified pre owned 2015 accord sport with 18k miles on it. i was thinking about doing a cold air intake and the hondata flashpro .. now maybe a TB spacer as well. do you know anyone that has done the flashpro on this motor. im familar with the k24a2 as i used to have a turbo 2004 tsx . but not with this motor..
Adrian Fernandez This part can be found on afepower.com and the part number is 46-37001. It is listed as a part for a 9th gen Civic Si, but keep in mind that both vehicles have the K24 motor, so they fit both vehicles.
Hey friends, what are the downsides to this thing? Does it increase engine noise? Also I saw you recommend the Takeda intake in a comment below - how is that on noise?
+Zlatan Omeragic No, it does not increase engine noise, although that would not be a bad thing. All intakes create extra noise, but it you do not like those noise increases, you are clearly not a car enthusiast. Many performance upgrades change/increase noise, so if you want power, you have to like the noise haha.
Sergio Alcaraz The two dyno tests were done back to back, so the horsepower and torque numbers were instant without ANY tuning of the ECU. It is actually a very simple part. The MPG gain, I did a test on not too long ago, but it did not even increase 1.5 in total. It you are looking to gain MPG, this would not be the only part you need to make a substantial increase. I would recommend adding the Takeda intake to it to improve it further.
I am not sure, actually. My gut tells me no, since this is such a simple and somewhat insignificant part. But I would find out from someone who really knows what they're talking about.
@@joesipr I would say no. Primarily, I made this video to prove that these parts make power. However, I do not believe it makes enough power on its own to justify the purchase (you likely will not notice a difference when driving). Furthermore, it you were to get an intake, it would likely replace most of the power you gain from this. So, what I am saying is that you are better off going with just an intake, really. But, I would need to conduct more research and tests to find out, for sure, whether an intake + a TBS would make extra power, which I do not believe it would, at this time.
Awesome review. Can you tell us where you ordered from & what the part # is for this product cause all i keep finding are the V6 spacers which they say dont fit?
Originally, yes I was planning on doing both, however there was a change of plans and the Accord is no longer on the team. An update video will be uploaded soon to explain everything.
The last I checked, this product was only meant for the 9th gen Honda Civic Si, 9th gen Honda Accord, and Acura ILX. The 2012 Accord is from the 8th generation. So, I cannot comment on whether it will work for that car.
I have never had any engine light on this car. Maybe you disconnected something in the process of installing it? Maybe something around the intake manifold?
I kinda want one for my tundra but I'm not sure if a couple horse is worth 100 bucks. but they do sound cool and it would probably help my throttle response. hmm. decisions decisions
+Evan Baker My engine is small, your motor is almost 3 times the size of mine, it would be much more horsepower, probably around 10-12 in terms of increase.
This will fit your Accord. If you are worried about your warranty, DON'T modify your car. I don't buy warranties, so I'm not the right person to ask if this will hurt it. Ask Honda specifically if it will affect your warranty though.
I guess I am a little confused as to what it is that you are requesting. Those performance modifications increase horsepower, which is what you want, isn't it?
Well, if you watch the video, you will see that there is REAL power gains actoss the range and overall. During regular driving though, it's not that different. However, during sporty driving, you will notice an increased throttle response.
Thanks, been looking at getting a bit more kick out of my 17 sport. Now I know that there's a 30 hp difference between the crank and the wheel. It's gotta be the cvt loss
Oh yeah, the CVT is inefficient from a power perspective, I'm sure. The problem, however, is that the CVTs cannot handle much power. I was told not to push more than 250 hp at the crank to avoid busting it.
I actually do not own this car anymore. However, I am unaware of what manifold you are talking about. Is there a spacer for the intake manifold? And if so, who makes it?
+Recycled Productions This shop I went to is in Washington, but Boise is honestly not very good. There is Rich's Auto Care, but they are a little sketchy and they totally try to rip you off. They have a dyno though!
but when you put it on the rolls u need to disable the abs on it so it can go over 5 miles per hr. there should be a procedure to do so, which is called the dyno mode.
+Lazarrez Velazquez I did not, but seeing as how this little piece gained as much as it did, I would expect about 5-7 horsepower from an intake and 3-4 lb ft of torque.
+Mags and frags 1776 I planned on doing a test, but I didn't keep the car for long after I installed the part. However, I would assume that since the system is now less restrictive in a way and the flow of air is more efficient, that, depending on how you drive, it could be better, but only slightly, I'm talking a max of 1 mpg.
+Project Street Royals thanks bud why did you get ride of it? I got the manual version and when the warranty ends I'll probably do these mods. great video!
I only had the car temporarily while my Civic had it's transmission rebuilt. My father had just gotten the car brand new and said that I could have it while my car got fixed as long as I made the monthly payments! If the Civic never got fixed, I presume that I would have always kept the Accord!
Project Street Royals i was just wondering because I’m thinking about getting one for my z and I didn’t know if there would be a difference in power between a forced induction car compared to an NA car
@@alexhartley5914 Do you mean a difference in power in general? Because a turbo will definitely increase your power. If you mean a difference between adding the throttle body spacer to a booster vs NA car, then that would be a different question. It is very unlikely that a throttle body spacer would fit on a turbo setup because you would no longer be using the standard air intake setup.
Really from anywhere. I just did a quick google search and it looks like JEGS carries them. Just do some research and you will find a good one in no time!
I was able to install the afe throttle body spacer and can tell the torque difference off the line from a stop. I also like the hiss it makes when rolling around town on sport mode. It is definitely audible and this along with my kandn cai makes a big difference in throttle response, engine tone and power. No check engine light either and I don't think a tbs and cai would cause a cel. Any more mods and yes I could see the Accord throwing a code but none so far. Also, I've ran 89 gas/mid grade and felt that I got a little more power. Is it bad to run 89 or even 91 in a car that requires 87? I just noticed the car was me responsive and effective at producing power when at like 75% throttle on 89 than 87. I am just a little worried that the engine won't adjust the timing properly in the motor and will run improperly and cause issues later on. Also, do you know what cvt fluid I can get aftermarket that is of much higher quality than hondas oem cvt fluid? I also run pennzoil ultra platinum with pureplus technology and noticed a difference in how my engine performs. Thanks
Glad to see the product worked for you! And no, there is absolutely no harm in running higher octane like that in a car that requires unleaded fuel. What you do have to realize though, is that running 91 in a car that doesn't require premium will not benefit you and even if it does, the extra money you spend will cancel it out. Unless you have big mods like forged internals or an upgraded turbo system, there is really no need in going above 87 or 89 octane.
afepower.com/afe-power-46-37001-silver-bullet-throttle-body-spacer Here is the link. It says it's for a Honda Civic Si, but don't let that confuse you. The Si has the same motor as the 4 cylinder Accord.
I've watched a few of these videos about spacers and I still believe that if the distance of the throttle body from the intake manifold made a significant increase in power without sacrifices to fuel economy, Honda engineers would have placed the throttle body at a different distance from the intake. IF this half an inch gains anything, why wouldn't Honda place the throttle body over by the air filter? That would be a gain of over a foot? Just imagine the gains in power if all you have to do is move the throttle body away from the intake manifold! I can't believe Honda would not go for the basically free power if they just tweak their intake design by an inch.
That is a fairly valid argument. However, think about all the things companies, especially Honda, do to save just the tiniest fraction of a mile for gallon. For example: I own a 1996 Honda Civic LX. On the EX, the intake manifold is different. It allows for better and more efficient air travel, whereas the LX has one that specifically restricts that same air travel. The differences in fuel economy (just based on the intake manifold) is so minute, you cannot even tell the difference in day-to-day driving, but you get a 6 hp boost off if you swap the EX's manifold onto the LX, which I have. Further, it is especially not Honda's goal to "make power." They want their cars to make sufficient power to not feel unbearably slow, be able to pass people on two-lane highways, and maybe be a little bit of fun when you want it to. Cold air intakes, in some cases, do the exact same thing: increase hp without sacrificing any fuel economy; in fact, they increase fuel economy if you drive properly. The jist here is that Honda does NOT want to give us more power than is necessary to accomplish their goals for the car and Honda wants fuel economy over everything else, for the most part.
Project Street Royals you're totally right, Honda would never allow such a savage gain of 4 hp for increased fuel economy. We wouldn't want everyone driving around in hyperspace Honda's 😂
You know, that's the exact realization I had. I feel like a lot of people are raised to believe normal, family sedans are boring to drive, and equally as boring to look at. Honestly, though, the modern sedans, especially, are designed quite tastefully.
The only person to use real data to answer the questions we all have, thank you so much.
You are very welcome! I'm glad I was able to help.
spacer increases WOT max:
+2.5 hp
+8 ft/lbs
and...
+5 hp & +5 ft/lbs torque throughout mid-range
That's a huge increase for just a spacer. Good job bro.
Thank you for uploading this video, it is very informative
I'm sorry. I never saw this comment before! I know it's a late response, but I really appreciate your comment. I'm glad it helped you out!
2.5 is huge?
avery gentry for a spacer
@@averygentry35 bro for a 60 dollar spacer I think so lol
@@averygentry35 you could by a cold air intake for 300 bucks and it would add 10
Well done lads! This is a no nonsense done right comparison! I HATE all the fluff some guys think they need to add. Keep up the great work!
Thanks a lot! I figured keeping it simple was the way to go!
7 years later. Still helping people out.
I'm glad to hear that!
I was almost deterred by all the haters on throttle body spacers...I think $75 is not a bad investment for what I've consistently seen 5-10hp and 5-10ft-lbs across multiple different types of vehicles, thanks for taking the time to do this testing!
I was in a similar boat, honestly. I have no idea why it is generally accepted that these parts don't do anything. Maybe certain ones don't do anything or they don't work or work well with certain applications. But, clearly, it works here! No problem!
Data=@3:17 Stock Sound=@0:38 Spacer Sound=@2:38, I hope this helps everyone to hear the comparisons! Tbh the spacer makes it louder and even better in my opinion but the second part was filmed near exhaust of car, no way to know without a sound reader near engine with before and after readings. Either way Great video and thanks for making it!
Thank you for putting these timestamps together! And you are very welcome.
I also noticed the sound difference...a bit more beefier sound imo
Would love to see the numbers on the actual paper! Thanks for the vid!
I agree. Thank you!
Thank you so much, did you have to "relearn" the car basically teach the car the throttle body with a computer?
You are very welcome. No, I did not need to do that. The car functioned just fine for me after the TBS install. However, maybe I should have. I planned to get a K Tuner after installing an intake or exhaust or whatever else, but didn't stick with the car long enough to make that happen.
Thanks for taking the trouble to do this video. I was thinking of one for our 2007 Odyssey as we tow a 3500 lb trailer.
Thanks , Mike
+Mike Fifer No problem man, glad it was helpful!
Everyone always tries to say the 9G Sport is underrated from the factory, but your results are the same that I’ve seen on our rollers. 160whp from 190bhp is about a perfect 16% drivetrain loss on your stock run, about what is to be expected from a modern drivetrain setup. The car does feel strong for a 190 HP car even in stock trim, but once tuned they really wake up. We typically see around 190whp with a PCD and intake/tune. Stock Sport exhaust is plenty of flow for the engines requirements so you really don’t gain anything but noise going after the cat. The stock intake on this car is well designed also, but there is a little power to be had at WOT with a good intake after playing with fueling and MAF scaling a bit. Solid information here brother.
Thank you for saying that and for the information. I'm sure people will find it very useful!
Thanks man! I have been wanting someone to do this very test for a long time. My butt-dyno told me this very info for a while, but I have always wanted evidence. I sensed the same results, top end there’s not much difference. But part throttle and low end torque is definitely improved. Great test!
I'm glad you found it helpful! Thank you!
thanks for putting through a dyno test as well for undeniable facts. you've earned a like and subscription. getting a TBS to complement my SRI and J2 Engr high flow exhaust system.
No problem! No one had done a dyno video of this yet at the time, so it was definitely worth "myth busting."
Niceee
Did it benefit the other supporting mods?
Great video, you answered my question perfectly. I'm getting one.
Great to hear man!
So how did you like it when u got it. Any noticeable gains?
Thanks man for the video and the dyno test results. I was skeptical about purchasing one but after seeing this video well I just ordered me one. I know it will go hand in hand with my K&N cold air intake. I have 2015 Honda Accord EXL V6 Sedan so I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with the results also. Thanks again for the real actual results. 👍
No problem! My whole reason for creating the video was to determine whether TBSs actually work! By the way, I have heard that some cold air intakes do not fit perfectly with a TBS installed. So, you may have to get some additional hardware to make it work. Good luck!
Hey Samir, I have a 2014 2.4 Accord lx. I'm wondering what the part# is for the spacer you used. Is it 46-37001?Also, is your throttle body a KEIHIN? Mine has a #2 just below the name. 2013-2015 and I think 2016 the 2.4 seems to have not changed. For some reason I'm having trouble with finding a throttle body spacer for 14 Accord.Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks for the great video.
I don't remember the part number, but if you are having trouble, just look for the 2012 Honda Civic Si throttle body spacer, it uses the same engine as the 4 cyl. Accord.
Nice video! You may also consider installing a longer pcv hose. The extra volume gives the same effect as the spacer, but cheaper with a much lower risk of vacuum leak.
Thanks for the advice!
Ur using the afe throttle body spacer they say they get rid of the "annoying whistle" which i like lmao but since it works might as well try it on my 2015 colorado 2.5 liter intake tune,e85 and exhaust :) might just dyno to see numbers
If you do dyno it, please let me know if it works out for you! I would love to see if the results are similar on a different platform!
@@ProjectStreetRoyals i will let u know how it goes
I hope it fits do you have a video putting it on paperwork set it only fits older body style with the VTEC
I am not sure how easily a TBS would fit your application, since you have an aftermarket intake. I have heard that people with both a TBS and an intake needed to built or add a bracket extension.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals yeah yeah I think you're right when I first got my intake it was an inch Too Short the bracket so I still have that maybe it will fit if I have to I might have to cut or custom make a bracket I mean if it shakes a little I don't think it would hurt anything
@@garynapoli3042 In my 1996 Honda Civic, my Password:JDM carbon fiber intake is only attached to the throttle body. I don't have any additional bracket. The intake has literally just been floating in my engine bay for years. But getting a custom bracket made shouldn't be difficult, either.
Now add the Sprint booster to get rid of the drive by wire lag to the throttle body and you will be amazed. I bought a Sprint booster for my '13 Accord V6 M/T and it got rid of any lag due to the electronic throttle response and that car was already very immediate with application of throttle. Costs around $300 no matter the car!
I will admit that I haven't done my research on that, but I feel like the problem it is designed to resolve can also be resolved via electronic tuning. I would say that, if you were planning on building your car more than just a little bit, you would be better off cost-wise with a tuner from Hondata or K-Tuner. With those, you could do a lot more, as well. I will have to look into these, though. Thanks for bringing them to my attention!
So this throttle body spacer would add some actual HP increase? Got a 2017 accord sport and want a bit more power increase. Got a intake but don't seem to get much but like 2-3 HP. Thanks.
Yes, it definitely does. The difference is not noticeable, but maybe it would be a little bit with the intake. Just keep in mind that the TBS will move your intake a little bit. So, if you don't have much room to play, you may have to modify the placement of the intake's mount. One of my friend's had this problem occur with his aFe Takeda intake.
Interesting video man. I have a different car which is 2015 Mazda 3 2.5l but I am debating whether to buy throttle body spacer from afe power. But after doing some research and reading forum, some people believe its waste of money claiming they don't do anything. Do you think throttle body spacer works depending on the car?
Well, I only have evidence that a TBS increases power on Honda K24 engines. However, I don't see any reason why a TBS wouldn't work for a Mazda 3. The big problem with TBSs is that they don't make enough of a change for you to notice anything. Your car won't feel faster and, unlike with some other modifications that sometimes don't add much power (like cold air intakes),your car won't sound faster. So, spending $100 for no noticeable difference is a kind of a waste, from that perspective. Of course, if you want some additional power which is easy to obtain, since a TBS is easy to install, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get one.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals Ahh I see your point. Yea some people believes its better to spend on something else like ecu tuning which I understand that, but I kind of don't want to do that. I will modify my car but not turning into 100% racing car. Maybe way later in the future but I doubt it. Looks like I'll debate myself little longer. Thanks for quick reply!
@@naoatsumi5576 No problem! Always happy to help out when I can.
I installed a sp2 tsudo catback exhaust system,it makes a lot of difference on power and sound,just ordered a air intake and throttle body spacer
You have a video of how it sounds?
Hey do you notice any difference while driving ? I have a 2015 accord sport CVT and I have another car but I plan to use this car as a daily driver and I like the fuel economy that the car have but I want at least a little more power nothing crazy, and I want to see if this make a difference that at least you can feel
To be completely honest, no, there is no noticeable difference when driving or in terms of fuel economy. If anyone tells you they feel a difference, it is only psychological. If you gave the car to someone who didn't know the TBS was installed, they would have no idea you did anything to add power.
Project Street Royals oh okk, thanks !! Good to know that !
@@B8_ghostt No problem! The primary purpose of this video was to test a TBS, and to determine whether it actually made any difference. On paper, at least, it does.
I just got the throttle body spacer I got the air intake thanks to you hopefully it's worth it
That's great to hear!
I honestly thought spacers were a scam, but that's quite a jump for such a small item.
Just recently added a CAI on my Focus, so I may get one of these and see how it feels
Yeah, so did I! That's why I decided to do this test. I hope it works out for you!
Was this only 1 spacer
It was, yes.
Can you do more upgrades to the sport and see the power
Actually, I do not have this car anymore. A family member totaled it last year.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals dam that sucks what did you have on it to pick up HP
@@81quiroz Nothing else aside from the TBS. I didn't get very far into this build before my 1996 Honda Civic got fixed. At that point, my parents took over the payments on the Accord.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals oh ok thank you for replying and hope all is well
@@81quiroz Thank you! Yes, things are definitely going well over here. I hope the same to you. Stay safe!
What if you put many spacers in a row. Does it improves or decrase the performance? I know it seems to be dumb but what if it really adds power?
Well, if you wanted to try that, you would need to get extended bolts. The spacer comes with extended bolts to replace the stock ones, but you couldn't put another one on there without finding ones that were even longer haha. I do wonder how that would work, but I doubt it would do much more anyway.
thanks for your answer and for the video.
Cebastien Larochelle No problem, anytime!
Well the spacer basically adds more air into your engine so you can just get a aftermarket intake manifold and that would increase soo much more hpw than adding a bunch of spacers
The only complaint I really have is that when u do a Dyno sheet the reason you do 3 runs is because you average them together. That's what needed to happen to get the most accurate data. Not just the highest power run that's out there.
I have realized that since creating the video, but thank you for pointing that out, so that people understand how it all works a little better.
Would recommend throttle body spacer for the G37s. I do have cai . Header and full cat back exhaust . Will I see additional benefits from the spacers ,
You'll have to let us know what difference a TBS makes along with those mods.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals ok cool, I thinking about buying it . Not sure if it worth it . But after watching ur channel. It made me want to get it
@@torvarrisevans3961 That's the thing, I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make with an intake, specifically. I have seen no evidence of this, but I feel like an intake would eliminate the benefit of the TBS.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals ok cool, thanks for the info bro
@@torvarrisevans3961 Anytime!
Hey. I would like to know if you needed a computer flash after installing the throttle body spacer?
I am not an expert. However, I do not believe you would need to for this mod.
Great review. Installing this spacer will it cause check engine light to come on?
It did not happen on my car, and I have not heard of it happening on anyone else's car. I think you will be okay!
I am maybe off topic. But I had a question for the Honda accord sports. Have they made any turbo kits out there for them already? I like the 2016 accord sport manual and was thinking of different options of putting in more power. I haven't seen or herd of a turbo accord sport out there just curious.
+Victor Rivera Technically, any car that is gas or diesel powered can have a turbo setup. Some cars, like Honda Civics have a lot of companies make turbo kits for them specifically, however, a lot of cars do not have this luxury and require a custom setup where you buy the turbo, piping, intercooler, and everything else separately and then get it all to fit. I know someone with a 2014 Honda Accord V6 with a custom turbo set up making over 400 hp, however it usually costs more to do a custom set up like this because you will most likely need a shop to fabricate all of the piping and such.
3-5hp doesn't seem much. But considering, its a simple mod for a N/A vehicle, that's actually not bad for simply bolting in a helix spacer. I got a CAI and at custom cat-back on my Spec-V, so I am curious to see if a spacer really does actually do something. Nice to see people actually dynoing these and not just saying "oh it adds power."
Course to add, I love some companies say you get 22hp just by adding this on to your throttle body. Needless to say, don't believe that, there is no possible way that these could do that.
Yeah, for what it is, I was honestly surprised by he results. I've seen numbers as outrageous as "10% increases" in power. It's insane to think they could do that much. I mainly just wanted to do this to myth bust these.
Did you only get supplied one gasket for the tbs? If so, what did you apply on the side without the gasket so there wouldn't be any vacuum leaks? Thanks
Mine came with both, but you can get any sealer from an auto parts store for just a few bucks.
Just curious if you did 3 runs on each set up to get an average of hp and torque ?
I don't remember exactly how many runs we did for each setup, but I know we ran each setup at least twice.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals Good to know and it would be a good idea to mention that in your videos in my opinion. Just so people know what the average numbers are before and after . Thanks for the video though it had good info 👍 and sorry to make suggestions, probably annoying you but thats not my intention. I know you can't make everyone happy . Lol
@@saulgoodman9193 I realize that now. I didn't put much thought into that 6 years ago. I didn't even think this video would take off like it did. I just wanted to make a short little deal explaining that a TBS provides a tiny benefit haha.
I am certainly not annoyed by the suggestions. I definitely appreciate them! You are correct though; not everyone will be happy with anything I do lol.
So, this was bone stock without a cold air intake? If so, that's impressive! I'm a Mustang guy, but this video makes me want to pick one up. Low end torque is where the 3.7 v6 needs the most improvement. Sorry PSR. May have lost your last reply. I deleted and reposted because my phone wouldn't let me edit :|
Sum Dood It's all good man! Yeah, this thing doesn't even have a cold air intake, just a throttle body spacer, with an intake, it could have another 5 or 6 horsepower.
I can't seem to find a tbs for a 2014 2.4L engine. I only see the one available for the V6 engines
+Sai Ganeshan The one that says it's for the Honda Civic Si is the one for this car, they both have the same engine.
+Project Street Royals any whistling? I'm thinking about installing a takeda intake with it also
No whistling whatsoever, honestly, I don't even notice a difference. It's all the same.
+Project Street Royals thank you
with a cold air intake how much hp and torque do u think it would increase?
I have not seen any dyno results for these cars when they have both a TBS and an intake. I imagine there would still be gains from adding an intake, but I am unsure of how many gains there would be. If you go to aFe's website, they estimate what kind of power increases you should see from the intake, alone. Those numbers would probably be a decent indication, as long as you subtract a few horsepower and lb. ft. of torque from them.
Thanks!! I have a new pre owned Honda Civic 2013 lx coupe and my ability to merge into traffic is hazardous. Car is fun to drive but with not a whole lot of power to safely drive into thruway
I have plans to put in new air intakes, new exhausts, throttle body spacer and better wheels hoping this would help!! Any suggestions is welcomed!!!
So tou are looking strictly for performance modifications? I would recommend the company aFe Power and their Takeda Intake and Dueal exhaust. Then get an Rv6 downpipe and K tuner programmer!
No this is for safety issues. Just to give the car enough power to safely merge into thruways.
Mscellobass I know what you mean! I have 2013 Honda Accord Sport CVT and it's very hazardous when merging into traffic on the Highway especially when Econ Mode is on. When Eco mode is on I have to nearly plant my feet to the ground and let the engine scream in order to get up to speed and not get hit from behind or side swept. I just now usually turn off eco mode and it helps acceleration a little bit more. It's the CVT that makes throttle response slow from a start. Next car I will buy will be the Honda Accord V6 regular Automatic or another car brand 4 cylinder with a regular automatic. No more CVTs for me from now on. Too hazardous. Safety > MPG. Honestly, my mom's 2009 Honda Accord 4 cyl EX regular auto is way faster and get up to speed without being hazardous. Not to mention, it's more fun too. Honda definitely cut costs and corners and made their new cars substandard all around. It definitely shows in comparison.
I honestly do not understand the whole "lack of power or throttle response" issue here. I NEVER drive in auto and if you want a quicker throttle response, drive in "S" or "Sport" instead of regular "Drive." Uses a bit more gas, but is much sportier with a faster acceleration.
+MatTZI014 Use the paddle shifters to shift down right 2 gears before you are ready to accelerate onto the highway...the car has near 190 horsepower and does 0-60 in around 8 seconds....its plenty fast for daily driving.
Is this the aFe throttle body spacer? And, how did you manage to pass inspection for the downpipes since it's a PCD?
Yes, this is a part from aFe and I don't have a downpipe. Also, Idaho does not do any inspections except for emissions, and in my area they don't even do that haha.
does the throttle body space make a whistle noise?
I have not noticed any noise change by adding this piece. I've heard some people say that it does, but not from what I have seen.
Will a throttle spacer fit if I already have a takeda intake. Or will it push the takeda past its proper positioning. Is it worth it to get both. Cus the intake already gave me +13hp for 100 bucks idk if I should justify the 2hp less on midrange
+Jay Bisky It will fit, but you will have to "modify" the placement. I know people that have just gotten a couple of brackets and a bolt to extend it back to the original spot, so it won't be impossible. And having both definitely will not be a mistake if you want more power, but if you are just looking for "bangs for you buck", then no, don't get both.
Jay Bisky
Where did you find the red honda logos?
They are official Honda of Japan emblems, and I got mine from ProImportTuners.com!
hi dude, i know its been a while but just wondering if you still have the dyno sheet for this session? or if you remember the change in the way the power/torque line progress before and after the TBS install? rather than how much power it increases, i am more interested in if it had any effect on smoothing up the lines and such
Hi, I very much apologize for the late response. For some reason, your comment was blocked, and I only now noticed it. I do have the dyno sheet, and I would love to share it with you. Do you have an Instagram?
@@ProjectStreetRoyals yah its Icarus1314 :D
thanks man :D
@@askaliu2943 Great! Want to message us on our Instagram? Then, I can send you the photo.
Where did you buy the throttle body spacer and how much was it? What brand?
+flaco Perez I bought it from afepower.com. The brand is aFe Power and it was a little over $100 when I bought it.
+Project Street Royals
Does it fit on honda accord sport 2015?
Of course it does, that's what this car is haha a 2015 Accord Sport.
Nice result can't wait to get 1 for my car....when you bought the spacer does it come with hardwares for installation, like longer bolts to replace the stock bolts....thanks for sharing this video man...👍🏼
+aed990 Yes, it comes with longer bolts!
Well, I am impressed. Does your company sell tbs for a 98 av6? If so, how much?
+DeMario Tatum I don't own the company that wells these haha! And you can check at aFe Power's official website.
man you a real one thanks for not bsing the whole time
You're welcome! Tried to make this as simple as possible. I always hated not getting quick, straightforward answers from UA-camrs, and that's what prompted my approach in this video.
Do you have any other intake modifications on the vehicle?
The car has, unfortunately, been totaled by a family member somewhat recently. However, no, it did not have any other intake modifications, at the time.
Awesome video! I have two questions.. I have a 2014 Honda Accord Sport CVT, I would like to upgrade it but Im not quite sure what to do as well as what my limitations are. So I could get a throttle body spacer, a performance intake system, a RV6 downpipe, & an exhaust system to maximize my performance without harm? Secondly, where can I find the throttle body spacer for my car?
+Henry Chinique Yes, you will not harm your car. Now, if you were thinking of doing much more than that (internals, upgraded block, turbo, etc.) then you would need to consider swapping to a manual transmission. It's not a good idea to put much more than 230-250 hp on the CVT trans because it is not meant to handle a lot of power. You can find the throttle body spacer on afepower.com.
is there any way you can put a video of how you put your emblems on or send me a link so i am able to do it. thank you
+Josue Quintero I am not in possession of the car anymore, however, for the front, you need to remove the front bumper. However, if you break off the old emblem, you don't need to remove the bumper. For the rear one, you need to remove the trunk lining and then un-clip the rear badges from the inside.
How has the throttle body spacer been holding up and is it a must to have the gaskets put in it mine came with 2 o ring gaskets.
Mine held up just fine!
hey man so i was wondering what kind of mods you have on your car i just bought a certified pre owned 2015 accord sport with 18k miles on it. i was thinking about doing a cold air intake and the hondata flashpro .. now maybe a TB spacer as well. do you know anyone that has done the flashpro on this motor. im familar with the k24a2 as i used to have a turbo 2004 tsx . but not with this motor..
I don't know anyone who has used a flashpro on this motor, however, the K-Tuner works really well, especially with the RV6 downpipe.
If u could tell us the part number or where u got the spacer for the 4 cylinder it would be helpful
Adrian Fernandez This part can be found on afepower.com and the part number is 46-37001. It is listed as a part for a 9th gen Civic Si, but keep in mind that both vehicles have the K24 motor, so they fit both vehicles.
Thanks. Appreciate the quik response
No problem, glad to help!
Hey friends, what are the downsides to this thing? Does it increase engine noise? Also I saw you recommend the Takeda intake in a comment below - how is that on noise?
+Zlatan Omeragic No, it does not increase engine noise, although that would not be a bad thing. All intakes create extra noise, but it you do not like those noise increases, you are clearly not a car enthusiast. Many performance upgrades change/increase noise, so if you want power, you have to like the noise haha.
Does the HP and MPG gain happen automatically once the TBS is installed? Or do you need to modify the ECU for the TBS?
Sergio Alcaraz The two dyno tests were done back to back, so the horsepower and torque numbers were instant without ANY tuning of the ECU. It is actually a very simple part. The MPG gain, I did a test on not too long ago, but it did not even increase 1.5 in total. It you are looking to gain MPG, this would not be the only part you need to make a substantial increase. I would recommend adding the Takeda intake to it to improve it further.
if i made a tune of my car and installed that now can affect the tune?
I am not sure, actually. My gut tells me no, since this is such a simple and somewhat insignificant part. But I would find out from someone who really knows what they're talking about.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals and if worth the money for u?
@@joesipr I would say no. Primarily, I made this video to prove that these parts make power. However, I do not believe it makes enough power on its own to justify the purchase (you likely will not notice a difference when driving). Furthermore, it you were to get an intake, it would likely replace most of the power you gain from this. So, what I am saying is that you are better off going with just an intake, really. But, I would need to conduct more research and tests to find out, for sure, whether an intake + a TBS would make extra power, which I do not believe it would, at this time.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals and they are not cheap cost 70 so i pass😂
Awesome review. Can you tell us where you ordered from & what the part # is for this product cause all i keep finding are the V6 spacers which they say dont fit?
This part is from aFe Power (afepower.com) and the part number is 46-37001.
Project Street Racing Thank you. Any ideas in the future to do a dyno w/ the RV6 downpipe & then maybe later the Takeda axle back?
Originally, yes I was planning on doing both, however there was a change of plans and the Accord is no longer on the team. An update video will be uploaded soon to explain everything.
Project Street Racing Cool. Thanks man
aFe says that part is for honda civic si i see the 2.4 on it. did you have any problems installing it on the accord?
The Civic Si has the K24 motor and the 4 cylinder Accord also has the K24. Same goes for the Acura TSX; the part works for all 3.
Erick Treviño i saw that as well but also saw on ebay that it fits the Accord as PSR previously stated. Also, i found the part for $89.99 on ebay.
Is there a link to where I can purchase this?
Brandon Di Taranto Just go to afepower.com and fill out your information for your particular vehicle.
Project Street Royals thanks
it says for 2012 does it still work with the 2014
The last I checked, this product was only meant for the 9th gen Honda Civic Si, 9th gen Honda Accord, and Acura ILX. The 2012 Accord is from the 8th generation. So, I cannot comment on whether it will work for that car.
can you post the link throttle body spacer and do you have the link for the Honda badges on your car or sizes for the logo
Just go to afePower.com and look up the 2012 Si throttle body spacer and go to proimporttuners.com for the badges.
I got the throttle body spacer! Unfortunately I got a check engine light and code P0108. Did this happen to you? If it did what did you do about it?
I have never had any engine light on this car. Maybe you disconnected something in the process of installing it? Maybe something around the intake manifold?
Great work and report. I have the 2015 Sport 2.4L and really want to add power.
This would be a great place to start! Glad you found the video useful!
Thanks a lot where can I purchase throttlebody spacer ??
+Rene Cruz I actually do not know for a fact if the same company makes one for the V6, but aFePower.com.
I kinda want one for my tundra but I'm not sure if a couple horse is worth 100 bucks. but they do sound cool and it would probably help my throttle response. hmm. decisions decisions
+Evan Baker My engine is small, your motor is almost 3 times the size of mine, it would be much more horsepower, probably around 10-12 in terms of increase.
if i install tha wil hurt my warranty .....and you said civic will fit on my accord sport 13
This will fit your Accord. If you are worried about your warranty, DON'T modify your car. I don't buy warranties, so I'm not the right person to ask if this will hurt it. Ask Honda specifically if it will affect your warranty though.
Thanks i have extends just worried
Oh of course. It's a good idea to ask because it's better to be safe than sorry, you never know what could happen to a new car.
AFE silver bullet says you can get 10HP and 8T what brand did you use?
aFe Power!
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That is the brand that I used.
hey can you please put a link where you got your throttle body spacer at, thank you
+thai vo From the aFe Power official website. Just go there and type in your car specifics.
Nice Video! Does your Accord burn any oil?
I'm sorry I missed this comment. No, it did not burn any oil while I had it.
Were u going to suggest anything? Am I going the right way about this?
I guess I am a little confused as to what it is that you are requesting. Those performance modifications increase horsepower, which is what you want, isn't it?
How you like the spacer on the car? Any different?
Well, if you watch the video, you will see that there is REAL power gains actoss the range and overall. During regular driving though, it's not that different. However, during sporty driving, you will notice an increased throttle response.
Does your record have an intake like a K&N typhoon
I'm sorry, did you mean to say "Accord," instead of "record?" If so, no, it did not have an intake.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals yes but I meant to say Accord I just ordered one I have a 17 sport 36000 miles currently have the K&N typhoon
@@garynapoli3042 Nice buy! And that's cool. I haven't seen a K&N on one of these. Most of my friends got the aFe Takeda intakes.
@@ProjectStreetRoyals aww ok it's all right but I don't have the money to keep changing them out
Nice video, any check engine light on with the throttle body spacer?
+arturo panganiban Nope, none at all!
Thanks, been looking at getting a bit more kick out of my 17 sport. Now I know that there's a 30 hp difference between the crank and the wheel. It's gotta be the cvt loss
Oh yeah, the CVT is inefficient from a power perspective, I'm sure. The problem, however, is that the CVTs cannot handle much power. I was told not to push more than 250 hp at the crank to avoid busting it.
The cvt’s must be efficient, they all get good mpg ratings better than geared trannys. A 30 loss is typical for all cars.
I just found out today that Throttle body spacers make the car much better.
"Much" might be a strong word, but they certainly do something, according to my experiment!
Can you do one on the spacer for the manifold
I actually do not own this car anymore. However, I am unaware of what manifold you are talking about. Is there a spacer for the intake manifold? And if so, who makes it?
nice video. saw that you from boise. what are some good performance shops around there? i live north of boise
+Recycled Productions This shop I went to is in Washington, but Boise is honestly not very good. There is Rich's Auto Care, but they are a little sketchy and they totally try to rip you off. They have a dyno though!
Does this hurt your mpg any
Not in any noticeable way. The car got roughly the same MPGs for the last few years we owned it!
@@ProjectStreetRoyals thanks
what procedure do u use to put the Honda in dyno mode?
Dyno mode?
I mean to put the vehicles on the rolls
Just roll up onto it, tie the car down, and let her rip!
but when you put it on the rolls u need to disable the abs on it so it can go over 5 miles per hr. there should be a procedure to do so, which is called the dyno mode.
I'm assuming that the program hooked up to it through the laptop did that.
Where did you get the red honda emblem in the front?
xRaviing On proimporttuners.com.
where did you buy your honda emblems from
+Josue Quintero From ProImportTuners.com. They are genuine, so they cost a pretty penny!
I have the 2016 sport does the bts the same for the 2016 model
+g1-original The 2016 4 cylinder is still a K24 just like the 2015 so I don't see why it wouldn't work. It should work just fine!
Nice!! Will be adding this to my Mods-to-do list! Great video
That's great to hear! Thank you!
Did you install intake yet and if you did any noticeable gains
+Lazarrez Velazquez I did not, but seeing as how this little piece gained as much as it did, I would expect about 5-7 horsepower from an intake and 3-4 lb ft of torque.
Cool video! We're mpg' s effected?
+Mags and frags 1776 I planned on doing a test, but I didn't keep the car for long after I installed the part. However, I would assume that since the system is now less restrictive in a way and the flow of air is more efficient, that, depending on how you drive, it could be better, but only slightly, I'm talking a max of 1 mpg.
+Project Street Royals thanks bud why did you get ride of it? I got the manual version and when the warranty ends I'll probably do these mods. great video!
I only had the car temporarily while my Civic had it's transmission rebuilt. My father had just gotten the car brand new and said that I could have it while my car got fixed as long as I made the monthly payments! If the Civic never got fixed, I presume that I would have always kept the Accord!
Is that car turbocharged
Unfortunately, it was not.
Project Street Royals i was just wondering because I’m thinking about getting one for my z and I didn’t know if there would be a difference in power between a forced induction car compared to an NA car
@@alexhartley5914 Do you mean a difference in power in general? Because a turbo will definitely increase your power. If you mean a difference between adding the throttle body spacer to a booster vs NA car, then that would be a different question. It is very unlikely that a throttle body spacer would fit on a turbo setup because you would no longer be using the standard air intake setup.
Project Street Royals yeah second question my bad
@@alexhartley5914 No problem! That's what I think is likely, but it wouldn't hurt to do some extra research.
Will it fit my 2014 Honda Accord coupe 2.4L?
Yes, of course it will.
Do u know were i can get one for a 2016 mazda 3 ??
Really from anywhere. I just did a quick google search and it looks like JEGS carries them. Just do some research and you will find a good one in no time!
when I looked it up. it says it only for Honda civic
That is the one. If you look in the lower corner, it will tell you that it fits the Accord as well. they have the same engine!
Ok. Thank u so much. I have put a k n intake in it also exhaust. What else do u think I can get?
Get an RV6 Performance downpipe and k tuner.
I was able to install the afe throttle body spacer and can tell the torque difference off the line from a stop. I also like the hiss it makes when rolling around town on sport mode. It is definitely audible and this along with my kandn cai makes a big difference in throttle response, engine tone and power. No check engine light either and I don't think a tbs and cai would cause a cel. Any more mods and yes I could see the Accord throwing a code but none so far. Also, I've ran 89 gas/mid grade and felt that I got a little more power. Is it bad to run 89 or even 91 in a car that requires 87? I just noticed the car was me responsive and effective at producing power when at like 75% throttle on 89 than 87. I am just a little worried that the engine won't adjust the timing properly in the motor and will run improperly and cause issues later on. Also, do you know what cvt fluid I can get aftermarket that is of much higher quality than hondas oem cvt fluid? I also run pennzoil ultra platinum with pureplus technology and noticed a difference in how my engine performs. Thanks
Glad to see the product worked for you! And no, there is absolutely no harm in running higher octane like that in a car that requires unleaded fuel. What you do have to realize though, is that running 91 in a car that doesn't require premium will not benefit you and even if it does, the extra money you spend will cancel it out. Unless you have big mods like forged internals or an upgraded turbo system, there is really no need in going above 87 or 89 octane.
If your car throws a code from installing this how do you fix it??
can u send me a link so I can order one for a 2014 honda accord sport.
Just go to afepower.com and type in your info.
You guys did a tune ???
No. Did not get a K-Tuner or Hondata prior to getting rid of this car.
No link ? For the part
afepower.com/afe-power-46-37001-silver-bullet-throttle-body-spacer Here is the link. It says it's for a Honda Civic Si, but don't let that confuse you. The Si has the same motor as the 4 cylinder Accord.
The afe body spacer adds like 8hp ,thats crazy
It really surprised me!
great video and I'm glad to see. keep up the good work.
We appreciate the support!
I've watched a few of these videos about spacers and I still believe that if the distance of the throttle body from the intake manifold made a significant increase in power without sacrifices to fuel economy, Honda engineers would have placed the throttle body at a different distance from the intake. IF this half an inch gains anything, why wouldn't Honda place the throttle body over by the air filter? That would be a gain of over a foot? Just imagine the gains in power if all you have to do is move the throttle body away from the intake manifold! I can't believe Honda would not go for the basically free power if they just tweak their intake design by an inch.
That is a fairly valid argument. However, think about all the things companies, especially Honda, do to save just the tiniest fraction of a mile for gallon. For example: I own a 1996 Honda Civic LX. On the EX, the intake manifold is different. It allows for better and more efficient air travel, whereas the LX has one that specifically restricts that same air travel. The differences in fuel economy (just based on the intake manifold) is so minute, you cannot even tell the difference in day-to-day driving, but you get a 6 hp boost off if you swap the EX's manifold onto the LX, which I have. Further, it is especially not Honda's goal to "make power." They want their cars to make sufficient power to not feel unbearably slow, be able to pass people on two-lane highways, and maybe be a little bit of fun when you want it to. Cold air intakes, in some cases, do the exact same thing: increase hp without sacrificing any fuel economy; in fact, they increase fuel economy if you drive properly. The jist here is that Honda does NOT want to give us more power than is necessary to accomplish their goals for the car and Honda wants fuel economy over everything else, for the most part.
Kro- Man Not necessarily Honda engineers weren’t totally focused on performance but also feel economy and a more relaxed response
Project Street Royals you're totally right, Honda would never allow such a savage gain of 4 hp for increased fuel economy. We wouldn't want everyone driving around in hyperspace Honda's 😂
Never realized how good the accord actually looks
You know, that's the exact realization I had. I feel like a lot of people are raised to believe normal, family sedans are boring to drive, and equally as boring to look at. Honestly, though, the modern sedans, especially, are designed quite tastefully.
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Thank you, I'm gettin one!
No problem!