⭐ ALI is awesome! i have a 2012 Prius...wonder how much to replace w/ oem and labor? It has 110k miles w/ original brakes. My mechanic said i can replace at 120k miles. MY 12V battery was original until i just changed it 6 mos ago w/ OEM 12v that was cheaper than aftermarket.
Great video. Makes me comfortable about buying one. It also points out why we HATE dealerships: 5 hours labor = $1,000. I don’t know any mechanic making $200 an hour. The owner of that dealership is pocketing an awful lot of money and blaming the technician
Dealers rip people off. A $15 part that works tje ignition switch broke in my steering column dealer charges me $600 to do practically reamed me good without lube.
I just sold my 2013 Camry hybrid. The hybrid battery was still going strong. There are many opinions that the hybrid battery will last the life of the car if it is driven properly. I believe it.
Nice to see a dealership go into detail about this and with some of the cost of ownership. So many dealerships I have visited just say it's under warranty and don't worry about it. I don't like that answer very much. Thanks guys!!!!!
True about brakes and maintenance in general on a hybrid. Have a 2005 Escape Hybrid with 130k. Never needed the brakes changed! It also is very cheap to maintain. Still on original battery. Hoping it lasts longer. 20 years so far!
My 2010 Prius hybrid battery went out at 210k and a local guy installed a refurbished one for $1600, he replaced at my house. I think is was worth the price.
The guy is correct. The only way you can ensure your replacement battery is going to be trouble free is to replace it with a brand new one. Not a refurbished one using old modules.
My 2015 Prius V has been virtually maintenance-free with the exception of oil changes (12 @ $60 each), plugs and tune-up ($125), transmission fluid ($200), one alignment ($60), and tires. The 12v battery is still original. Brakes are still at 65%. These are some of the best cars ever produced. The hybrid battery system is still functioning properly so this car is good for 200,000 miles.
@@Btu555 Even with that $300 repair, your Prius should have gone 200,000 miles. You likely got 45 mpg so it was still way cheaper to run than an American car.
@@pointreyes4272 ABS consists of master cylinder and brake pump and most of the time it's the master cylinder but I didn't want to take chance since the labor is expensive. Dealer labor is over $2000 and shops varies between $1200 to $1400 to replace both components. Each component is a little over $1000 at the dealer but internet price from dealer is around $600 each at a few online dealer. I didn't want to buy from ebay or junkyard since mine broke at 81K and I am not sure how long I am going to keep the car but it seems to make sense to me to replace both new because of the labor. I was able to find a company to rebuild the brake pump for $325 which includes full rewind, new commutator, bearings and brushes so it's like new. I couldn't wait for my mobile mechanic so I watched several youtube and after half a day I was able to replace both and ask my mobile mechanic to do a brake bleed with new ABS. Since I did it myself parts and bleeding brake come out around $1100
I can only speak about Camry hybrid but they are very reliable and in Australia all the taxi drivers have them i was in a taxi that thad done 700.000 kilometers no problem with battery
So the dealer adds quite a bit to the high price of battery replacement. But my car cost me $4000 to replace timing chain and gears on V6. Conclusion: ICE car also has high labor charges to repair engine.
Hi. In Romania we have a ten year warranty. In the US I met 3 people randomly and asked them if their prius battery failed and they had 12,13 and 15 years old Priuses with no failure of the battery yet.
This video is very helpful on understanding hybrid batteries. I’ll be looking forward to understanding how to maintain a hybrid battery. Great video. 🙏
@@danettej4796 Drake, there is no need to change filter - it easily can be cleaned. But to prevent clogging of that filter you have to have all car clean and not to obstruct air flow thru those filters
My wife has a 2018 RAV4 XLE hybrid since new. BEST vehicle ever! Thanks for this video. I learned so much. Please keep doing them. Merry Christmas to you all. As a final note. We should move away from all this EV boondoggle and make ALL vehicles hybrids.
Wow you got a great deal at only $945. The last time I priced the replacement battery on a Prius a few years ago the battery alone was $5000 not including installation.
@ Toyota priced me one around the same price 5k I found a rebuilt one in Houston with a 2 yr warranty for 945 cash price . I installed it myself, not hard at all with simple tools.
@m1kcan1 can replace it 5 times for the same price, a refurbished battery will get at least 75% of the longevity of new and in most cases much higher than that.
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The battery on my 2012 Prius C went out a couple years ago around the 250k mark. Local Fred Anderson dealership gave me a quote of around $4,300 to replace the battery so I went to a local mechanic to have it replaced for a little less. If the cost had been around $3,000 I would have had Fred Anderson replace it for the reasons cited in the video. Overall I love that car and it’s given me very little problems. I wish they still sold the Prius C in the USA, but they now sell it only in Asia and renamed it the Toyota Aqua. Once it finally conks out I’ll likely replace it with a non-hybrid RAV 4 because they get reasonably good mileage and the difference in mileage doesn’t seem worth the extra cost.
@@AnotherPilot1not really. Did some quick math. Let's go conservative. Let's say a Camry Hybrid gives you 35MPG vs a non-Hybrid giving you 25. Divide those figures by avg yearly driving of 12k miles and the hybrid will save you roughly 140 gallons yearly. Times that by 10 and you end up saving 4200 in 10 years. IF the battery needs replacing, you're still saving 1200. Most don't need replacing in 10 years and having owned both the Hybrid and non-Hybrid Camry's the MPG diff between both cars is closer to 15, especially in the city. At the worst you're still saving some money. On average you're saving a lot of money.
@@michaelbiggins7533 no sir. Just an A-A comparison with fuel usage. Hybrids don't need to be charged, optional even on Plugin Hybrids (phev). It costs around 75c to charge a Prius Prime for an EV range of 25mi. But PHEVs cost more and IMO not worth it unless you commute a lot in the city.
My 2014 Toyota Camry Hybrid was new when I bought it. Hybrid battery died just 1.5 months over 10 year warranty with only 70K miles. Cost of repair per local dealership is ~$4800. This is the most expensive repair that I ever had. I had been a royal customer of Toyota for many years due to its quality but not any more. Toyota's quality went south as it is ramping up the sales. I will not buy another hybrid or EV until its battery either lasts forever or becomes cheap to replace.
My first thought was that it wasn’t driven enough or sat for long periods of time. My motorcycle will not start after sitting for a long time. $4800 is still good deal in my opinion because the engine doesn’t have many miles. A new car is way more than $4800.
If you recondition this type of battery ones in while, not waiting trouble code to arise, you don’t have to replace any of the modules of the battery - so you can prolong the life of that battery as of replacing by new one (for $$).
Thank you very much for this wonderful video and thank you to Mr. Ali. Yes, I have three questions: First, what type of batteries does Toyota use? Second, what is the battery’s ability to withstand hot weather such as the Middle East? Third, is there a risk of batteries spontaneously combusting?
My 2005 Toyota Prius at 150k miles had two bad battery cells. Replaced them with reconditioned cells from eBay for $40 each. Put everything back together and 5k miles later still going strong. I’ll do the same when the next cell fails. Easy process, slightly time consuming. One man can do it himself. You can find vids on YT.
All batteries outgas. Tiny amounts, not a problem outside. Batteries are like humans, happiest at room temperatures, hence using conditioned air to avoid high heat or low temps.
Hi from Australia. We have cold and heat where we live. I have owned and run three Prius over 21 years in hot/ humid climate and cold winters ( down to below freezing temperatures). None have had any mechanical or electrical problems and have only had logbook servicing. The current Prius is just over 6 years old and has only had a 12 volt battery replaced after nearly 5 years of use. Better than 98% of the hybrid batteries give no trouble and easily last 10-12 years. Get over the so called complications. Cheers.
So I did a quick calculation with 36 miles/ gal, vs 26 miles / gal @ 150000 miles, the savings would be somwhere in the neighborhood of 4500 ... 5000 $. In the best scenario you break even, considering also the higher price of a hybrid car vs. the traditional gas car equivalent.
36mpg? I get well 50mpg in my 2014 prius. Not to mention brakes last forever and no alternator. What do you think the maintenance cost on your full ICE car is? The reliability of their systems is second to none.
I think Roy hit the nail on the head. So with 50 vs 26 wouldn't that be roughly 2 1/2 the savings so wouldn't that be around 11,000-12,000? Lookng a bit better now. adding Roy's breaks and alternator can we throw another 1 or 2 thousand on there?
@SouthernSierra56 I actually get 55mpgs consistently. But you also need to factor in the build quantity that you get and the unbelievable reliability. In 10yrs i have done the brakes once. And have had zero issues. Not even a light bulb. For me that is priceless.
Toyota Hybrid have e-CVT so it’s forever no rebuilds needed. No alternators no starters too. Elec a/c too. Regular ICE have CVTs or regular transmissions so a rebuild is needed if keeping car forever or very long time. Need to look at whole picture for everything to consider the total cost of ownership
Toyotas with e-CVT are nearly bulletproof UNLESS you get in an accident on the passenger side that damages one of its electric motors (rotor or stator). Then your hybrid is most likely totaled by your insurance company. Loved my 05 Prius until the HV battery failed at 254K miles in 2016. Did not replace it because of the cost of the new NiMH battery pack and because oil burning was getting out of hand.
The savings on maintenance is HUGE!! No belts to replace, brakes last 3 times as long, no starter to go out, no alternator to replace, etc. But they don't make sense for some drivers. If you spend most of your time on the highway, probably not a good fit. But if you drive in town most of the time, the fuel economy is crazy good. As long as you are driving in a reasonable fashion. We love our 2021 Toyota Venza, averaging almost 40 mpg since we bought it. Very comfortable.
It's true. For a mere 0.8-1.2kWh battery (Corolla, Yaris etc.) it's simply ridiculous - at least in Greece, it is. The price mentioned here for Prius is actually good. I was told it's more than that for a Corolla which is nowhere near the capacity of that in the Prius shown here.
Thats just the minimum as stated here.then each service departments or private shops will have different charge fees.they will always overcharge as posible because you can't complain once they are done with the job.they can say they do other stuffs or the parts are harder than usual to replace which will adds to the labor cost.they can also delay the service just for you to think they are having hard time or some parts are still on waiting to arrive their shop.all you can do is to pay them after and you can't complain period.
@@jackcollin1695 ~ I would not want a hybrid they have the complexity of an ICE engine as well as the lithium ion battery, software issues and electric motor, and they have all the problems an EV has, plus the maintenance of a ICE engine, where as a purely ICE vehicles are much simpler. Hybrids are good as long as the lithium battery is good, when it expires the car becomes most likely disposable.
Can you discuss in detail what is and is not covered by the 150,000 mile warranty? In other words the battery is only one component..How about the myriad of components that if they fail, result in the vehicle to leave you by the side of the road. To me, if this warranty is to be meaningful, any situation causing the vehicle to break down should be fully covered for 150,000 miles!
Could you discuss thermal run away? How and why it happens? Nature of the gasses given off during the incident etc. Could you also discuss situations where damage in an accident might cause a vehicle fire that may require much time and water to extinguish?
⭐ ALI is awesome! i have a 2012 Prius...wonder how much to replace w/ oem and labor? It has 110k miles w/ original brakes. My mechanic said i can replace at 120k miles. MY 12V battery was original until i just changed it 6 mos ago w/ OEM 12v that was cheaper than aftermarket.
People freak out at the possibility of a 4K battery replacement after 10 or 15 years, but ignore the fact that many people spend four to $7,000 to replace the transmission in their car every 10 to 15 years as well
@sojourner2013 that's typical dealer quote for a CVT $4-7k SMH I'd rather just get one to two miles a gallon less with a typical transmission then deal with the CVT hassle once they get up in age
OR we keep our internal combustion engines and skip out on paying 3k for a used battery since 1 we don't wanna pay that and 2 our power grid is not now and likely never will be sufficient to support ev;s.
wouldn't park it near a house for overnight charging......... it's all the consequential damage that adds up. Car Insurance and 3rd party insurance AND public liability in case your car starts a fire and destroys a few houses or something unforseen.... I would be nervous. There have been whole car park buildings and ships destroyed thru these batteries. Make sure you have the appropriate coverage!!!
A lot of the batteries are Ni-Mh not Li-ion, my 2007 Camry hybrid is still going strong. If you are worried about how the cells are doing, use the free Dr. Prius app for your cellphone (also works on Camry hybrids etc) and one of those $10 OBD2 Bluetooth modules for the car. Tells the cell balance of each cell group, state of charge etc. Sell the car if it looks bad.
I'm developing a big ass battery that will hook onto the bumper hitch or tow as a trailer. That way the dufus owner will not need to worry about replacing the expensive battery. You just get a new one and tow it around. 🙂
Ummm - why? PRIUS & other Toyota/Lexus hybrids topped the reliability charts for many years. The petrol/gas engine only runs 60% of the time, the electric motors & transmission last the life of the car, brakes much, much longer than usual. And fuel costs are halved.
Yes. They turn into money pits. See, it's not just the battery. Once you start racking up the miles, you need to address the engine and all the things that require maintenance. So you have to deal with 2 sets of issues. By then, the car has depreciated to the point that it's simply not worth putting all that money into.
What's the tradeoff for when replacing the battery isn't worth it because the gas engine is on its last leg? I've never got a Toyota or Honda (Camry or Accord) over about 225K miles. If I have to replace a battery at 200K miles is it worth it if the gas engine won't last more than another 25-50K?
Approx. $2k for the battery + $1k labor. You can replace individual cells but the labor may be more and the reliability is not as good as a new battery.
Good video, however, a brand new genuine oem Toyota hybrid battery on 2009 Prius is about $4k plus labor and not the $2k quoted + labor. Yes , one can get a "remanufactured" or "rebuilt" one for $2k or less but that is not the same as a brand new one.
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Question? Why can younot go to a battery service shop and get the battery serviced and reconditioned to like new ?? Probably half the cost ! Why not hybrids and then you are never in this predicament !! 🇨🇦😭
Why? The battery lasts the life of the car in most instances. In Australia, we get an unlimited kilometre, 10 year warranty on the Hybrid system - almost all last the life of the car. And given the massive savings on fuel, brakes, transmission etc - you're well in front. And resale is much better.
Kia Ioniq 5 battery replacement 60k Cdn dollars when car is 55k , a lady made the national news with that story and Kia corporate comes back with , the dealer gave the wrong price but another fella came forward from the other side of the country revealing that he was quoted same price on same car .
Exactly, once batteries are easily to replace by just pulling out a bad cell and plugging a new one in the same way like Enterprise storage drives can be replaced folks will jump on the EV train some more
23 toyota corolla le hybrid into a 2024 4Runner. Second bite of the apple having a 2013 Prius V before. neither hybrid lasted long. absolutely no mech problems with either in the short period i owned, but having just turned 5900 miles on my 4Runner in 3 months ownership, GAWD the ride comfort of the 4Runner, the piece of mind in owning one of the longest lasting Toyotas they have ever made, the mumbling around the true future cost of the hybrid (dealers don't want one in-trade with high miles), the miniscule savings, yes the corolla got 50mpg at 77mph, 62mpg in mixed city driving vice 19mpg in the 4runner at 77mph; but I didn't save enough in fuel costs to make it noticeable in my living expenses. And when Toyota waves you bye bye at end of warranty at 150k, omg the rabbit hole you will fall down trying to find an honest dealer to replace both your battery and your braking regenerator, all to save just pennies of fuel cost today.
What's missing is the frequency of repair/reliability curve chart. vs years owned under warrentee and xcluding minor collisions and accidents just look at Consumer Reports that use yearly owner suppled information about their Toyota Hybrids. The Toyota battery is hardly worth thinking about for the average owner..
Note If you have dogs in the back seat a lot dog hair can and significantly reduce the flow of cool air to the batter fan blower and may or may not require routine filter inspection and cleaning depending on the type of dog and number of dogs in the back seat over a given period of time.
10 year warranty if you only put 15,000 miles a year , so you have to add $25 a month to saving acc. To cover replacement cost of $3000 if replacement cost remains the same.
That’s expensive as I got my 2015 Toyota done with a new battery pack including fitting for £1,870 , at a taxi firm in my town that runs a fleet of there’s Toyotas ,
The repairs of cars ect, simply put its another way of screwing money from the public who have been screwed enough. You just declare how costly the bits and pieces are to establish prices over the top. It is time to stop these people.
You can insert numbers to make any car look good. The wife had a 2006 Yaris that was a great daily driver/// people moving car. I'm a forth generation Prius fan more because of driving range and if I leave on a 4,000 mile trip. The car will make it back without needing something worked on. I know people who won't touch a Prius because of cabin noise. Corolla, Camry, RAV4 says alot about the driver. Drive a Lexus. I won't talk to you.
Hybrid cars are good for new car owner because warranty cover all. But when comes to 2nd hand owner, it's expensive and you're on your own and you aren't get tax benefits on that. Yes, hybrid has great milage but when battery went bad, you need to buy new/used battery. For gas car, you still can drive it but the MPG will drop over the time. If you're not driving a lot, hybrid is not your choice. Because if you drive less, your battery will drop the capacity year after year.
What questions do you have about vehicle service, repair, and maintenance? We are happy to answer in future videos!
Is the warranty covered for 2nd hand owner ?
Can I replace my nickel metal battery in my 2011 Prius with a lithium battery?
How about for Prius Prime Hybrid, its Plug-In with 8kWH lithium battery
⭐ ALI is awesome! i have a 2012 Prius...wonder how much to replace w/ oem and labor? It has 110k miles w/ original brakes. My mechanic said i can replace at 120k miles. MY 12V battery was original until i just changed it 6 mos ago w/ OEM 12v that was cheaper than aftermarket.
The fume inside the cabin causes cancer.
My 2014 Lexus es300h has over 302,000 miles and still running strong without any maintenance to engine, brakes or battery. Love my car!!
Great video. Makes me comfortable about buying one. It also points out why we HATE dealerships: 5 hours labor = $1,000. I don’t know any mechanic making $200 an hour. The owner of that dealership is pocketing an awful lot of money and blaming the technician
5 hours of labor at a dealership.... 2 hours if you have an independent mechanic do it
ThaTS WHY MY HUBBY CALLS THEM STEALERSHIPS...
Dealers rip people off. A $15 part that works tje ignition switch broke in my steering column dealer charges me $600 to do practically reamed me good without lube.
Shop rate includes building rent, utilities, supplies owners profit,bookkeeping accounting customer service and taxes.
@@kevinpulliam8029 Ouch!
I just sold my 2013 Camry hybrid. The hybrid battery was still going strong. There are many opinions that the hybrid battery will last the life of the car if it is driven properly. I believe it.
Nice to see a dealership go into detail about this and with some of the cost of ownership. So many dealerships I have visited just say it's under warranty and don't worry about it. I don't like that answer very much. Thanks guys!!!!!
It’s important for customers and owners to have knowledge of what they are owning and driving. I’m glad you appreciate our videos.
True about brakes and maintenance in general on a hybrid. Have a 2005 Escape Hybrid with 130k. Never needed the brakes changed! It also is very cheap to maintain. Still on original battery. Hoping it lasts longer. 20 years so far!
That’s fantastic. It sounds like you got a good one.
@@FredAndersonToyotayes and the ONLY good one that exists!
My 2010 Prius hybrid battery went out at 210k and a local guy installed a refurbished one for $1600, he replaced at my house. I think is was worth the price.
The guy is correct. The only way you can ensure your replacement battery is going to be trouble free is to replace it with a brand new one. Not a refurbished one using old modules.
He did mention that but they just didn't emphasize it as much.
Thanks Ali and Jeff, This is very important information for buyers.
My 2015 Prius V has been virtually maintenance-free with the exception of oil changes (12 @ $60 each), plugs and tune-up ($125), transmission fluid ($200), one alignment ($60), and tires. The 12v battery is still original. Brakes are still at 65%. These are some of the best cars ever produced. The hybrid battery system is still functioning properly so this car is good for 200,000 miles.
wow, I bought a 2011 prius and its ABS system went bad so I have to replace it at 83K miles.
@@Btu555 Even with that $300 repair, your Prius should have gone 200,000 miles. You likely got 45 mpg so it was still way cheaper to run than an American car.
200k + no problem
@@pointreyes4272 ABS consists of master cylinder and brake pump and most of the time it's the master cylinder but I didn't want to take chance since the labor is expensive. Dealer labor is over $2000 and shops varies between $1200 to $1400 to replace both components. Each component is a little over $1000 at the dealer but internet price from dealer is around $600 each at a few online dealer. I didn't want to buy from ebay or junkyard since mine broke at 81K and I am not sure how long I am going to keep the car but it seems to make sense to me to replace both new because of the labor. I was able to find a company to rebuild the brake pump for $325 which includes full rewind, new commutator, bearings and brushes so it's like new. I couldn't wait for my mobile mechanic so I watched several youtube and after half a day I was able to replace both and ask my mobile mechanic to do a brake bleed with new ABS. Since I did it myself parts and bleeding brake come out around $1100
Thank you. My decision was right. Lexus Hybrid is best choice. ❤
I can only speak about Camry hybrid but they are very reliable and in Australia all the taxi drivers have them i was in a taxi that thad done 700.000 kilometers no problem with battery
So the dealer adds quite a bit to the high price of battery replacement. But my car cost me $4000 to replace timing chain and gears on V6.
Conclusion: ICE car also has high labor charges to repair engine.
Hi. In Romania we have a ten year warranty. In the US I met 3 people randomly and asked them if their prius battery failed and they had 12,13 and 15 years old Priuses with no failure of the battery yet.
This video is very helpful on understanding hybrid batteries. I’ll be looking forward to understanding how to maintain a hybrid battery. Great video. 🙏
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Very basics
Rule #1 about maintaining the hybrid battery - change the filter(s).
@@danettej4796 Drake, there is no need to change filter - it easily can be cleaned. But to prevent clogging of that filter you have to have all car clean and not to obstruct air flow thru those filters
My wife has a 2018 RAV4 XLE hybrid since new. BEST vehicle ever! Thanks for this video. I learned so much. Please keep doing them. Merry Christmas to you all. As a final note. We should move away from all this EV boondoggle and make ALL vehicles hybrids.
I agree.
I replaced my hybrid battery in my 2008 Prius with a rebuilt battery for 945 dollars and it took me less than 2hrs of my own labor
Wow you got a great deal at only $945. The last time I priced the replacement battery on a Prius a few years ago the battery alone was $5000 not including installation.
@ Toyota priced me one around the same price 5k I found a rebuilt one in Houston with a 2 yr warranty for 945 cash price . I installed it myself, not hard at all with simple tools.
Rebuilt won't last anywhere near a new battery from experience.
@m1kcan1 can replace it 5 times for the same price, a refurbished battery will get at least 75% of the longevity of new and in most cases much higher than that.
Seems like a major oversight that the bus bars are not being replaced (considering how cheap the part should be) on refurbished batteries!
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John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
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6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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Very good information to share with the audience; lots of good tips. I don't own a hybrid yet but I was close to buying one in 2022.
Very helpful video to help us make a better choice when purchasing a hybrid. It would seem that hybrids make more sense than EVs.
The battery on my 2012 Prius C went out a couple years ago around the 250k mark. Local Fred Anderson dealership gave me a quote of around $4,300 to replace the battery so I went to a local mechanic to have it replaced for a little less. If the cost had been around $3,000 I would have had Fred Anderson replace it for the reasons cited in the video. Overall I love that car and it’s given me very little problems. I wish they still sold the Prius C in the USA, but they now sell it only in Asia and renamed it the Toyota Aqua. Once it finally conks out I’ll likely replace it with a non-hybrid RAV 4 because they get reasonably good mileage and the difference in mileage doesn’t seem worth the extra cost.
Toyota has signed onto the much simpler and much better mileage BYD hybrid system , be patient!
So…all that $$$ you saved on gas gets wiped out replacing the battery.
@@AnotherPilot1not really. Did some quick math.
Let's go conservative. Let's say a Camry Hybrid gives you 35MPG vs a non-Hybrid giving you 25. Divide those figures by avg yearly driving of 12k miles and the hybrid will save you roughly 140 gallons yearly. Times that by 10 and you end up saving 4200 in 10 years.
IF the battery needs replacing, you're still saving 1200. Most don't need replacing in 10 years and having owned both the Hybrid and non-Hybrid Camry's the MPG diff between both cars is closer to 15, especially in the city.
At the worst you're still saving some money. On average you're saving a lot of money.
@@hyedefinition1080 Did you include the recharging electricity costs ?
@@michaelbiggins7533 no sir. Just an A-A comparison with fuel usage.
Hybrids don't need to be charged, optional even on Plugin Hybrids (phev). It costs around 75c to charge a Prius Prime for an EV range of 25mi.
But PHEVs cost more and IMO not worth it unless you commute a lot in the city.
Thank you Ali. I learned a lot. And thanks Jeff for keeping us informed. I look forward to tips to keep my future Hybrid Camry last longer.
My 2014 Toyota Camry Hybrid was new when I bought it. Hybrid battery died just 1.5 months over 10 year warranty with only 70K miles. Cost of repair per local dealership is ~$4800. This is the most expensive repair that I ever had. I had been a royal customer of Toyota for many years due to its quality but not any more. Toyota's quality went south as it is ramping up the sales. I will not buy another hybrid or EV until its battery either lasts forever or becomes cheap to replace.
My first thought was that it wasn’t driven enough or sat for long periods of time. My motorcycle will not start after sitting for a long time.
$4800 is still good deal in my opinion because the engine doesn’t have many miles. A new car is way more than $4800.
long warranty might be great news, but it is transferrable, or only for first owner?
If you recondition this type of battery ones in while, not waiting trouble code to arise, you don’t have to replace any of the modules of the battery - so you can prolong the life of that battery as of replacing by new one (for $$).
Thank you very much for this wonderful video and thank you to Mr. Ali. Yes, I have three questions: First, what type of batteries does Toyota use? Second, what is the battery’s ability to withstand hot weather such as the Middle East? Third, is there a risk of batteries spontaneously combusting?
My 2005 Toyota Prius at 150k miles had two bad battery cells. Replaced them with reconditioned cells from eBay for $40 each. Put everything back together and 5k miles later still going strong. I’ll do the same when the next cell fails. Easy process, slightly time consuming. One man can do it himself. You can find vids on YT.
Does Toyota honor the warranty if I buy the new battery and replace it myself?
Where do you recommend buying the new battery from? I have a 2012 Toyota Camry Hybrid.
Wait a sec…..”the tubes are used to discharge poisonous gases to the outside of the car….” How does this help reduce pollution?
Said the tubes are poisoning..not excaping
yeah when plugged up they'll be putting the poison right at your face
@@MickB52s He actually says, "exhausted to the outside of the vehicle".
All batteries outgas. Tiny amounts, not a problem outside. Batteries are like humans, happiest at room temperatures, hence using conditioned air to avoid high heat or low temps.
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Hi from Australia. We have cold and heat where we live. I have owned and run three Prius over 21 years in hot/ humid climate and cold winters ( down to below freezing temperatures). None have had any mechanical or electrical problems and have only had logbook servicing. The current Prius is just over 6 years old and has only had a 12 volt battery replaced after nearly 5 years of use. Better than 98% of the hybrid batteries give no trouble and easily last 10-12 years. Get over the so called complications. Cheers.
So I did a quick calculation with 36 miles/ gal, vs 26 miles / gal @ 150000 miles, the savings would be somwhere in the neighborhood of 4500 ... 5000 $. In the best scenario you break even, considering also the higher price of a hybrid car vs. the traditional gas car equivalent.
36mpg? I get well 50mpg in my 2014 prius. Not to mention brakes last forever and no alternator. What do you think the maintenance cost on your full ICE car is? The reliability of their systems is second to none.
Consumer Report found that a Prius took 4-5 yrs to break even with a Corolla with it's lower cost.
My average mpg on my 2020 RAV 4, over 5 years and 64k miles, with mpg tracked in the Fuelly app, is 39.4.
I think Roy hit the nail on the head. So with 50 vs 26 wouldn't that be roughly 2 1/2 the savings so wouldn't that be around 11,000-12,000? Lookng a bit better now. adding Roy's breaks and alternator can we throw another 1 or 2 thousand on there?
@SouthernSierra56 I actually get 55mpgs consistently. But you also need to factor in the build quantity that you get and the unbelievable reliability. In 10yrs i have done the brakes once. And have had zero issues. Not even a light bulb. For me that is priceless.
What would the cost be for a new battery?
My ct200h has 160k km,have a lot life to go for hybird battery, my 2014 ct200h has 12v battery from orginal japanese factory.
Thank you for the information. Unfortunately, hybrid still has to go through all the annoying smog checks.
I have a 2016 Toyota RAV4 hybrid that has 167,000 miles, which is getting poor gas mileage. Is it time to replace the hybrid battery?
Sounds like a commercial for Toyota Hybrids
They are actually the only hybrids dependable enough to make it worth owning.
Toyota Stealership pushing their garbage!
Will stick with my diesel
Can you purchase extended warranty and combine it with the 10 year, 150K warranty?
Toyota Hybrid have e-CVT so it’s forever no rebuilds needed. No alternators no starters too. Elec a/c too.
Regular ICE have CVTs or regular transmissions so a rebuild is needed if keeping car forever or very long time.
Need to look at whole picture for everything to consider the total cost of ownership
Toyotas with e-CVT are nearly bulletproof UNLESS you get in an accident on the passenger side that damages one of its electric motors (rotor or stator). Then your hybrid is most likely totaled by your insurance company. Loved my 05 Prius until the HV battery failed at 254K miles in 2016. Did not replace it because of the cost of the new NiMH battery pack and because oil burning was getting out of hand.
@@thx1138guy That was 2016. Replacement batteries for old priuses are cheap now.
@@destroyerofsimps6574cheap? 😂
CVTs are junk and corrosion of leads on these batteries is what leads to fires. Do you drive in salt? Most people do. Absolutely junk.
The savings on maintenance is HUGE!! No belts to replace, brakes last 3 times as long, no starter to go out, no alternator to replace, etc. But they don't make sense for some drivers. If you spend most of your time on the highway, probably not a good fit. But if you drive in town most of the time, the fuel economy is crazy good. As long as you are driving in a reasonable fashion. We love our 2021 Toyota Venza, averaging almost 40 mpg since we bought it. Very comfortable.
It's true. For a mere 0.8-1.2kWh battery (Corolla, Yaris etc.) it's simply ridiculous - at least in Greece, it is. The price mentioned here for Prius is actually good. I was told it's more than that for a Corolla which is nowhere near the capacity of that in the Prius shown here.
Where do you get a new battery???
The new cars have become very expensive. A replacement hybrid battery for $3,000 maybe the affordable option?
Thats just the minimum as stated here.then each service departments or private shops will have different charge fees.they will always overcharge as posible because you can't complain once they are done with the job.they can say they do other stuffs or the parts are harder than usual to replace which will adds to the labor cost.they can also delay the service just for you to think they are having hard time or some parts are still on waiting to arrive their shop.all you can do is to pay them after and you can't complain period.
@@jackcollin1695 ~ I would not want a hybrid they have the complexity of an ICE engine as well as the lithium ion battery, software issues and electric motor, and they have all the problems an EV has, plus the maintenance of a ICE engine, where as a purely ICE vehicles are much simpler. Hybrids are good as long as the lithium battery is good, when it expires the car becomes most likely disposable.
Can you discuss in detail what is and is not covered by the 150,000 mile warranty? In other words the battery is only one component..How about the myriad of components that if they fail, result in the vehicle to leave you by the side of the road. To me, if this warranty is to be meaningful, any situation causing the vehicle to break down should be fully covered for 150,000 miles!
Could you discuss thermal run away? How and why it happens? Nature of the gasses given off during the incident etc. Could you also discuss situations where damage in an accident might cause a vehicle fire that may require much time and water to extinguish?
Lets not forget the 1999 Honda Insight
How about covering nickel hydride batteries some newer Toyota use them and some older Lexus models
⭐ ALI is awesome! i have a 2012 Prius...wonder how much to replace w/ oem and labor? It has 110k miles w/ original brakes. My mechanic said i can replace at 120k miles. MY 12V battery was original until i just changed it 6 mos ago w/ OEM 12v that was cheaper than aftermarket.
What about the Toyota solid state battery ? Thanks
People freak out at the possibility of a 4K battery replacement after 10 or 15 years, but ignore the fact that many people spend four to $7,000 to replace the transmission in their car every 10 to 15 years as well
$7,000? Not going to your shop. 😂❤
@sojourner2013 that's typical dealer quote for a CVT $4-7k SMH
I'd rather just get one to two miles a gallon less with a typical transmission then deal with the CVT hassle once they get up in age
@@SAAN27there’s no belt on hybrid acvt
OR we keep our internal combustion engines and skip out on paying 3k for a used battery since 1 we don't wanna pay that and 2 our power grid is not now and likely never will be sufficient to support ev;s.
Factor in the fire risk of Lithium Ion -- and the increase of insurance.
wouldn't park it near a house for overnight charging......... it's all the consequential damage that adds up. Car Insurance and 3rd party insurance AND public liability in case your car starts a fire and destroys a few houses or something unforseen.... I would be nervous. There have been whole car park buildings and ships destroyed thru these batteries. Make sure you have the appropriate coverage!!!
No ice cars have a higher rated .
A lot of the batteries are Ni-Mh not Li-ion, my 2007 Camry hybrid is still going strong. If you are worried about how the cells are doing, use the free Dr. Prius app for your cellphone (also works on Camry hybrids etc) and one of those $10 OBD2 Bluetooth modules for the car. Tells the cell balance of each cell group, state of charge etc. Sell the car if it looks bad.
thank you
my warranty up to 150k is for new vehicles, what about the replacement battery from toyota, what kind of warranty they have ?
Our new 2024 Toyota Tacoma came with a measly 36K warranty and they wanted
I'm developing a big ass battery that will hook onto the bumper hitch or tow as a trailer. That way the dufus owner will not need to worry about replacing the expensive battery. You just get a new one and tow it around. 🙂
This is why I am not interested in hybrid vehicles!
hybrids for insecure people-ICE is already complex-adding battery makes it more complex.
Ummm - why? PRIUS & other Toyota/Lexus hybrids topped the reliability charts for many years.
The petrol/gas engine only runs 60% of the time, the electric motors & transmission last the life of the car, brakes much, much longer than usual. And fuel costs are halved.
Yes. They turn into money pits. See, it's not just the battery. Once you start racking up the miles, you need to address the engine and all the things that require maintenance. So you have to deal with 2 sets of issues. By then, the car has depreciated to the point that it's simply not worth putting all that money into.
The labor, the cost of the battery, plus whatever engine maintenance/issues you have will total out the car.
Excellent! More hybrids for the rest of us. I’ve had a 2010 Prius with close to $300k miles on it, no problems, ~54mpg 🤷
What's the tradeoff for when replacing the battery isn't worth it because the gas engine is on its last leg? I've never got a Toyota or Honda (Camry or Accord) over about 225K miles. If I have to replace a battery at 200K miles is it worth it if the gas engine won't last more than another 25-50K?
Maybe Im dumb but why all the tiny batterys instead of one large battery like your car battery😮
Approx. $2k for the battery + $1k labor.
You can replace individual cells but the labor may be more and the reliability is not as good as a new battery.
Good video, however, a brand new genuine oem Toyota hybrid battery on 2009 Prius is about $4k plus labor and not the $2k quoted + labor. Yes , one can get a "remanufactured" or "rebuilt" one for $2k or less but that is not the same as a brand new one.
One point not brought up about a new battery: will the new battery technology be significantly better than when I bought it?
Is the maintenance cost of a hybrid worth the money in gasoline savings?
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I’m constantly being told battery tech is improving and getting cheaper. So will these batteries cost reduced in the future?
absolutely. economy of scale. also third party replacement services are very affordable.
Was “cable-gate” issue ever solved?
I have droughts weather a Dealership would replace that battery for 3K???
Well explained.
Change the oil every 5k on your Dynamic Force Engine and you'll be good for another 200k.
I’ll stick to a V8 thank you very much.
We got both: 2010 LS 460 (V8) and a 2024 Prius. 😛
Question? Why can younot go to a battery service shop and get the battery serviced and reconditioned to like new ?? Probably half the cost ! Why not hybrids and then you are never in this predicament !! 🇨🇦😭
That is what I did myself for $300 of charger/discharger cost. From 50% of life expectancy I got 90%
como consigo un banco de baterias de esa
Toyota should build cars where it is easy to just slide the battery modules in and out
That's brilliant dude but do you think they thought of that already.
Genius, they thought about it but never done because of greed. BYD do this at their dealership in Asia
And how will they make money by doing that??
Toyota garbage!
Why? The battery lasts the life of the car in most instances.
In Australia, we get an unlimited kilometre, 10 year warranty on the Hybrid system - almost all last the life of the car. And given the massive savings on fuel, brakes, transmission etc - you're well in front.
And resale is much better.
Kia Ioniq 5 battery replacement 60k Cdn dollars when car is 55k , a lady made the national news with that story and Kia corporate comes back with , the dealer gave the wrong price but another fella came forward from the other side of the country revealing that he was quoted same price on same car .
Toyota still charge user an arm and a led for the old technology batteries
Even legs are being replaced by LEDs these days….
Yes, the battery go another 150k but the gas engine may not
I replaced my original 2nd Gen Prius with lithium batteries. So far no issues
we want to know how much it cost.
@edd.8261 I paid 2400 usd, and the labor is free because I used to be Toyota/ lexus Tech for about 15y
how much was battery ho much was labor?
Good video
Thanks!
4,000 $$$$$$
That would purchase a lot of gasoline
Is it worth it ?
Who would by a used hybrid that is out of warranty vs a used ICE car
A battery should be designed for plug and play. No battery that cost this much should corrode. Maybe that's why they're catching on fire.
Exactly, once batteries are easily to replace by just pulling out a bad cell and plugging a new one in the same way like Enterprise storage drives can be replaced folks will jump on the EV train some more
Hi Fred, Can you please explain why TOYOTA/Lexus is charging me $8500 for a replacement RADIO ???
3000 to 4000 is not bad. I had a friend who had to replace a clutch assembly and it cost $3000
I had the massive clutch replaced with new in my 2007 Ram Cummins 2500. It was $1800 and is a very heavy setup.
That is very high for a clutch replacement. It isn't a difficult job.
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23 toyota corolla le hybrid into a 2024 4Runner. Second bite of the apple having a 2013 Prius V before. neither hybrid lasted long. absolutely no mech problems with either in the short period i owned, but having just turned 5900 miles on my 4Runner in 3 months ownership, GAWD the ride comfort of the 4Runner, the piece of mind in owning one of the longest lasting Toyotas they have ever made, the mumbling around the true future cost of the hybrid (dealers don't want one in-trade with high miles), the miniscule savings, yes the corolla got 50mpg at 77mph, 62mpg in mixed city driving vice 19mpg in the 4runner at 77mph; but I didn't save enough in fuel costs to make it noticeable in my living expenses. And when Toyota waves you bye bye at end of warranty at 150k, omg the rabbit hole you will fall down trying to find an honest dealer to replace both your battery and your braking regenerator, all to save just pennies of fuel cost today.
Pennies/ So Roy is wrong about the thousands in saving? You compared it with living expenses. That's very subjective and so not helpful.
They don't call them Stealerships for nothing, they make me sick!
Why spend 5000 on a 2009 car worth 1500?
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What's missing is the frequency of repair/reliability curve chart. vs years owned under warrentee and xcluding minor collisions and accidents just look at Consumer Reports that use yearly owner suppled information about their Toyota Hybrids. The Toyota battery is hardly worth thinking about for the average owner..
Note If you have dogs in the back seat a lot dog hair can and significantly reduce the flow of cool air to the batter fan blower and may or may not require routine filter inspection and cleaning depending on the type of dog and number of dogs in the back seat over a given period of time.
NO HYBRID OR CVT FOR ME, too many issues
In toyota/lexus not really. Toyota cvt better then their 8 speed
The CVT transmissions have had alot of recalls. They are garbage.
@@johnshaddick6858really do you have the stats? E-cvt of Toyota is reliable, you must be talking about belt CVT of others
What issues there barely any issues with Toyotas and ecvt. Don't compare gen 4 Toyota hybrids ecvt with other manufacturers. Different design
lol what issues my 2020 Escape is more reliable than its gas cousin AND I get 45MPG on top of that
Toyota's got it down. Hybrid's are a good compromise in today's world.
2012 Camry Hybrid 175k No Issues Drive Train Or Battery. It’s all In The Maintenance…👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
10 year warranty if you only put 15,000 miles a year , so you have to add $25 a month to saving acc. To cover replacement cost of $3000 if replacement cost remains the same.
Do u mean $300 per year? ($300 per month is $3,600 per year and $36,000 for 10 years.)
@ oops got to edit that, brain fart ? THANK YOU ,THANK YOU , LOL ! ! !
That’s expensive as I got my 2015 Toyota done with a new battery pack including fitting for £1,870 , at a taxi firm in my town that runs a fleet of there’s Toyotas ,
Now the camry runs on batteries, the sienna runs on batteries. No. Never.
It's quite an expensive repair at the half life of the car.
The repairs of cars ect, simply put its another way of screwing money from the public who have been screwed enough. You just declare how costly the bits and pieces are to establish prices over the top. It is time to stop these people.
Can you please ask Russia to produce some more lada for the Caribbean some in automatic and some in sports car😂😂😂
Initial cost expensive, insurance expensive, batteries expensive , and resale low not worth the savings in fuel
You can insert numbers to make any car look good. The wife had a 2006 Yaris that was a great daily driver/// people moving car. I'm a forth generation Prius fan more because of driving range and if I leave on a 4,000 mile trip. The car will make it back without needing something worked on. I know people who won't touch a Prius because of cabin noise. Corolla, Camry, RAV4 says alot about the driver. Drive a Lexus. I won't talk to you.
Hybrid cars are good for new car owner because warranty cover all. But when comes to 2nd hand owner, it's expensive and you're on your own and you aren't get tax benefits on that.
Yes, hybrid has great milage but when battery went bad, you need to buy new/used battery. For gas car, you still can drive it but the MPG will drop over the time.
If you're not driving a lot, hybrid is not your choice. Because if you drive less, your battery will drop the capacity year after year.
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