** I mistakenly stated that the bars have a 30 degree back sweep when actually it is 45 degrees. A big difference so I just wanted to correct that mistake. Cheers
It feels like I've been riding with the Jones bar forever, but it has only been 8 years. The first bike I put them on was my 2016 Trek Stache with 29x3 tires. My typical routes contain pavement, dirt roads, technical single track, and sand. I never once felt limited by the Jones bar. However, I have to say that cornering on single-track took a little getting used to. I love the Jones bar so much that I also put one on my titanium singlespeed. When I'm cruising, my hands typically rest over the welds; when I'm laying down some power, I grasp the sides of the loop section; and when climbing and descending, my hands are on the grips. The ability to make big changes in hand position has been a game-changer for me. The only disappointment I have is with the Jones bag that fits inside the loop. It's definitely a quality bag and it fits perfectly in the loop, but I can't access it unless I take my cycling computer off its mount. The tight fit of the bag within the loop somewhat limits some of my hand positions as well. I found that a burrito bag works better for me.
Hi Mike. i agree, I have only been using the Jones bars for a few years now but they feel like second nature to me now. I agree that it also took me some time to get use them on single track especially cornering but now i feel weird when I ride a bike with regular flat bars lol. Yes I have two loop bags and really like them but with all my stuff on the bars it's almost impossible to get into the bag without removing electronics etc. I unfortunately only have one bike at the moment but I will be putting Jones bars on all touring bikes going forward. Thanks for watching and your awesome comment. Safe travels.
Thank you for sharing. I'm looking at changing out handlebar on my touring bike and I've been looking at the Jones H loop bar. I'm going with the 680. Ride On!
Super helpful review - many thanks! I'm here in Finand setting up for a long trek in a couple of months. This review settled it for me. Now I just have to find the dam bar in Europe!
Hello. Glad I could help! I have not regretted making the switch for one second, in fact I see them being on all my touring bikes going forward. I came across this store awhile back,, they have the full line up of Jones H Bars. While they may not be in stock at the moment it might be worth getting on a wait list. here is the link. www.justpedal.nl/en/multiposition-handlebar/jb710loopsgblk-jones-h-bar-loop-sg.html Let me know how things work out. Cheers
Hello Feliz. Thanks for taking the time to watch! I would love to use a suspension stem but unfortunately my research finds that the shortest length stem is 80mm and I need to use a 60mm at the very least. But the main reason I haven't went that route is that both Redshift and Cane Creek do not recommend them for sweep back bars. I have no doubt there is some benefits even with a Jones bar but myself I'd rather not use something that is not performing to 100% of it's potential especially since they are not cheap. I would be interested in hearing your long term thoughts on the stem if you think about it down the road. Thanks for the input very much appreciated. Cheers
It’s interesting to hear your experience. I have several bikes-some with flat bars, one with a few degrees sweep one with klunker bars (45 degree sweep) and one with albatross and 60 degree sweep. These Jones bars came on a new Jones LWB I purchased and are the only bars that hurt my wrists. Over the years I’ve never had wrist pain with any other bars and don’t with the variety I’m riding now. I just can’t figure out why. I was using the kraton long grips that came with the bike and just switched to Ergon GC1 to see if that helps. Before doing that I tried them angled 5, 10 and 15 degrees down from level as well as level and just a couple of degrees above level. Have also moved the spacers around on the headset without success. Can’t figure out why I’m having such a different experience from everyone else on Jones Bike/bar.
@@MrArmchairspaceman thanks for watching! the rack is a Bontrager rack. they are made specifically for the Trek 1120 forks. Unfortunately you would have to purchase the fork to make the rack work. Cheers
Thank you for your video I am increasingly convinced that it is the right handlebar for my Fargo to replace the woodchipper that makes my fingers fall asleep
There seems to be internet disagreement on the Jones Bar on a Fargo due to the very short reach. Perhaps a longer stem helps? Report back and let us know how it goes!
I am sorry for such a late response, I somehow never saw this message until just now. They may not be the right bars for everyone but everyone I meet who uses them love them. Safe travels
I started to use a butterfly bar this past summer for touring. 2400km East coast. It took a bit of getting used to as far a steering goes. You can change the angle and get get more upright. I had drop bars before on my Miyata 1000 touring bike. After a couple weeks on the road I would start getting back and neck pain.
I was considering the Jones H bar as well as the Moloko bar…but ended up with the Koga-Denham bar, as I wanted to continue to use my Ortleib ultimate 6 handlebar bag, and both of the other bars wouldn’t accommodate. The Denham bar has a swept hand position and horns for a more forward position for long days in the saddle and foe climbing. That said, I ended up with a Mokolo bar as well because I bought a Surly ECR, which had one as well as a flat bar. Overall the Denham bar is quite comfortable, especially with the Ergon GC1 grips.
I bought the denham bars for an ortlieb but then there is no space to put gps, bell phone etc. I have just bought the jones 2.5 riser and their bag so will look to compare
I have the Jones H bar loop on order and it should be here tomorrow. Quite excited to give it a try. I did order the custom bag that goes in the loop but I appreciate your comments about how your various camera phone mounts interfered with the use of it. Have you tried mounting extra water bottle bags or feed bags in the loop section? I’m wondering if that might provide me some storage while allowing my phone to be mounted over the top of them as you’s seems to be mounted in this video. I’m also wondering about the foam handlebar grips. I currently have the Ergon grips on my fat bike, which is where this bar is going, and I suspect I won’t be able to use them with the back sweep on the H bar.
So nice that you're still able to get out. Its surprising what a few hundred km's distance does to the weather, I'm still hoping to get a ride or two in before the end of the year but looking less and less likely. I have looked at the Jone's bar several times, still not ready to pull the trigger but getting closer. Cheers Bob...
Hello Bob. Yes we often get weather like this down here in Windsor, after all we as far south as northern California. I am hoping maybe we can put together a couple rides this summer. Cheers
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures Its surprising the difference a couple of hundred KM's makes, I think we are maybe 100km's north of Windsor but as you know the weather is quite different!! Absolutely yes to a ride or two next year. I'm still planning my trip from Waterloo - Port Dover - Fort Erie - Niagara on the lake and return, weather permitting possibly late May. Let me know if that works, also hoping for at least 1 or possibly 2 more for 2023 also, location and distance TBD. Stay warm Bob...
Great review. I'm looking at these for my Trek Farley. I think CF vs. aluminum is about more than weight. Carbon is .ore compliant and absorbs chatter and buzz feedback. Basically it's more comfortable. Is it $200 more.comfotsble? I dunno. But I wouldn't dismiss it -- I'll be considering it.
Hi Fred. Yes carbon does have the benefits you mentioned. But when you start clamping things to your bars like camera mounts etc it does have a affect on those attributes. I have always used carbon bars but I do not thing in this situation that the $200 is worth it. I use a carbon seat post and most importantly I have really good carbon rims which is definitely the best use of carbon on a bike for performance if one can afford it. Thanks for taking the time to watch the video. Cheers
I really like this style of bar. I have Surly Moloko bars on my Surly ECR which are very similar though weigh in heavier at 709g. Kind of expensive too!
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures I don't see any advantage with the Moloko bars over the Jones bars. They are more expensive and heavier. The only reason I have them is that they came with the bike. Take care. JP
Wide flat bars with minimal rise and backsweep are IMHO painful and useless for most people, unless you’re doing some real hardcore mtb riding. 680mm should be the maximum handlebar width on a new ”average” bike and if you need something wider, you buy the handlebar you need. A bit wider drop bar is the most comfortable one for my body and wrists, but I however purchased a Surly corner bar clone from Ali. I’m also thinking about buying that Jones bar. I have several bikes and it would cost way too much to have drop bars on all of those. I just wish these alt bars wouldn’t be so heavy and sometimes expensive 😅
These have been the most comfortable bars I have used. Yes I also wish the prices were better. But the reality is that cycling in general is a expensive sport/hobby and I don't see that changing anytime soon unfortunately. Thanks for watching. Cheers
What modifications to gear shifts and brake levers are needed in going to the Jones H Bar? I have an over 20 year old Trek 4300 with stock Shimano handlebar and brake/shift clusters. I love this bike. But ordered the jones H Bar this week and just stumbled on your channel. Thanks for your channel and info!
Hi Mark. The only thing that may need to be done is to shorten or lengthen the cables. It's really no different than setting up other bars. Keep in mind that these bars are designed for comfort and for a more upright riding position so having a saddle made for a upright riding position is very important if you are riding long distances. I hope they work out for you. Thanks for watching. Cheers
Hey thanks for subscribing! The front rack is made by trek and the mounts are specific to the Trek 1120 fork unfortunately. Thanks for watching. Cheers
I wanted the Jones H-Bar® Loop Titanium 710. But very expensive lucky found same thing in Titanium for $98 on aliexpress .. same same but a lot cheaper it comfortable ride great for touring but not great for single track mountain biking .. good video
Thanks for the review. I have developed arthritis at the base of my thumbs and am looking to replace my down bars on my Specialized AWOL primarily used for touring/trekking. Would the Jones H bar be good for my situation. Thanks.
Hello Kevin. I can't say for sure, but I think they might help you with your issues. The H bars allow you to rest your hands in a more natural position I find. As well as having multiple hand positions. If you do try them out please let me know how your experience goes. All the best. Dean
Great inspiring video! Can’t wait to see your next ride! Can’t wait to get of the indoor trainer! Cheers I like your hat in this video. Do you by chance sell them?
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures it’s a cool hat! I hope to get out for my first back packing trip locally this summer. Maybe I could hook up for a small weekend run! I live just outside London. Cheers!
Thanks for that video. Question; I am using the Denham/Koga bar (similar to the VO Crazy bar but with no rise) which has a similar sweep back as the H bar. When you changed your stem to bring the bar closer to you, did/do the grips move past the fork stem…and if so, did/do you notice a big difference? Thanks!
Hello Reinhart. Yes the bar ends do come past the stem and yes I did notice a big difference. I was looking for the ability to sit upright at certain points in the day to help with the different injuries I have. The nice thing about the H bar is the very large grip area allows me to get get the hands further up the bar when needed. Thanks for watching Reinhart. Cheers
Happy New Year! I ordered a Ritchey stem, good quality stem at a reasonable price. Here is a link. Cheers ritcheylogic.com/bike/stems/comp-4-axis-30d-stem
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures Happy new year! Thank you for the link, Im hoping I won't have to order a few lengths to get it dialed in to my liking.
Glad I watched your video. Definitely don’t want the jones bar now from what I saw. You have it set to have only one or two hand positions. I definitely need more than that. Also, if your position works for you, all the power to you, but needing to shorten your stem to 60mm when you already have a bar with quite a bit backsweep has me think you need a different size bike, not stem.
The bars have more than two hand positions if you want. I'm sure you watched other videos and saw that. My bike size is fine. The reason for the shorter stem has to do with injuries from two pretty bad accidents. Therefore I need to be able to sit pretty much straight up for stretches to elevate pain. After many hours on the bike I can say this setup works for me and that's all that matters. Been working as mechanic at a bike shop for over 20 years now so I'm pretty aware of proper bike setup. Cheers
** I mistakenly stated that the bars have a 30 degree back sweep when actually it is 45 degrees. A big difference so I just wanted to correct that mistake. Cheers
It feels like I've been riding with the Jones bar forever, but it has only been 8 years. The first bike I put them on was my 2016 Trek Stache with 29x3 tires. My typical routes contain pavement, dirt roads, technical single track, and sand. I never once felt limited by the Jones bar. However, I have to say that cornering on single-track took a little getting used to. I love the Jones bar so much that I also put one on my titanium singlespeed. When I'm cruising, my hands typically rest over the welds; when I'm laying down some power, I grasp the sides of the loop section; and when climbing and descending, my hands are on the grips. The ability to make big changes in hand position has been a game-changer for me. The only disappointment I have is with the Jones bag that fits inside the loop. It's definitely a quality bag and it fits perfectly in the loop, but I can't access it unless I take my cycling computer off its mount. The tight fit of the bag within the loop somewhat limits some of my hand positions as well. I found that a burrito bag works better for me.
Hi Mike. i agree, I have only been using the Jones bars for a few years now but they feel like second nature to me now. I agree that it also took me some time to get use them on single track especially cornering but now i feel weird when I ride a bike with regular flat bars lol. Yes I have two loop bags and really like them but with all my stuff on the bars it's almost impossible to get into the bag without removing electronics etc.
I unfortunately only have one bike at the moment but I will be putting Jones bars on all touring bikes going forward.
Thanks for watching and your awesome comment. Safe travels.
Thank you for sharing. I'm looking at changing out handlebar on my touring bike and I've been looking at the Jones H loop bar. I'm going with the 680. Ride On!
Hello! Thanks for taking the time to watch. These bars are one of the best changes I made to my setup. Let me know how things work out for you. Cheers
Super helpful review - many thanks! I'm here in Finand setting up for a long trek in a couple of months. This review settled it for me. Now I just have to find the dam bar in Europe!
Hello. Glad I could help! I have not regretted making the switch for one second, in fact I see them being on all my touring bikes going forward.
I came across this store awhile back,, they have the full line up of Jones H Bars. While they may not be in stock at the moment it might be worth getting on a wait list. here is the link. www.justpedal.nl/en/multiposition-handlebar/jb710loopsgblk-jones-h-bar-loop-sg.html
Let me know how things work out. Cheers
thank you for this. definitely switching over
You will be happy you did!!
Great video. I also bought the jones bar and love it. I also added a suspension stem which works great on the jones bar.
Hello Feliz. Thanks for taking the time to watch!
I would love to use a suspension stem but unfortunately my research finds that the shortest length stem is 80mm and I need to use a 60mm at the very least. But the main reason I haven't went that route is that both Redshift and Cane Creek do not recommend them for sweep back bars. I have no doubt there is some benefits even with a Jones bar but myself I'd rather not use something that is not performing to 100% of it's potential especially since they are not cheap.
I would be interested in hearing your long term thoughts on the stem if you think about it down the road.
Thanks for the input very much appreciated. Cheers
It’s interesting to hear your experience. I have several bikes-some with flat bars, one with a few degrees sweep one with klunker bars (45 degree sweep) and one with albatross and 60 degree sweep. These Jones bars came on a new Jones LWB I purchased and are the only bars that hurt my wrists. Over the years I’ve never had wrist pain with any other bars and don’t with the variety I’m riding now. I just can’t figure out why. I was using the kraton long grips that came with the bike and just switched to Ergon GC1 to see if that helps. Before doing that I tried them angled 5, 10 and 15 degrees down from level as well as level and just a couple of degrees above level. Have also moved the spacers around on the headset without success. Can’t figure out why I’m having such a different experience from everyone else on Jones Bike/bar.
Great review, exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks!
Hi William. I am really glad to hear that the video was of some help, that's the purpose of these review videos. Thanks for watching! Cheers
Thanks for the review. I just ordered my Jones H bar to put on my gravel bike. I am done with the drops.
Good choice!
Thanks for the very thorough reviews of the bar. Question though - what’s that very cool front rack you have there?
@@MrArmchairspaceman thanks for watching! the rack is a Bontrager rack. they are made specifically for the Trek 1120 forks. Unfortunately you would have to purchase the fork to make the rack work. Cheers
You were able to adapt your shifters to the H bar? Or did you change those too?
Thank you for your video I am increasingly convinced that it is the right handlebar for my Fargo to replace the woodchipper that makes my fingers fall asleep
There seems to be internet disagreement on the Jones Bar on a Fargo due to the very short reach. Perhaps a longer stem helps? Report back and let us know how it goes!
I am sorry for such a late response, I somehow never saw this message until just now. They may not be the right bars for everyone but everyone I meet who uses them love them. Safe travels
Thanks for the detailed review! This is helpful info.
Hello! I am glad you found it helpful. If you have ever have any questions feel free to ask. Safe travels. Cheers
I started to use a butterfly bar this past summer for touring. 2400km East coast. It took a bit of getting used to as far a steering goes. You can change the angle and get get more upright. I had drop bars before on my Miyata 1000 touring bike. After a couple weeks on the road I would start getting back and neck pain.
I love my Jones bars! Thanks for watching. Cheers
My hands go numb and it's getting tricky to reach the brake handles.
I was considering the Jones H bar as well as the Moloko bar…but ended up with the Koga-Denham bar, as I wanted to continue to use my Ortleib ultimate 6 handlebar bag, and both of the other bars wouldn’t accommodate. The Denham bar has a swept hand position and horns for a more forward position for long days in the saddle and foe climbing. That said, I ended up with a Mokolo bar as well because I bought a Surly ECR, which had one as well as a flat bar.
Overall the Denham bar is quite comfortable, especially with the Ergon GC1 grips.
Would like to hear a detailed comparison!!
I bought the denham bars for an ortlieb but then there is no space to put gps, bell phone etc. I have just bought the jones 2.5 riser and their bag so will look to compare
This bar is by far the most comfortable I've had in years.
I could not agree more. Cheers
Thanks
As I get older, I'd prefer comfort and no wrist pain.
I could not agree more! Thanks for watching. Cheers
I have the Jones H bar loop on order and it should be here tomorrow. Quite excited to give it a try. I did order the custom bag that goes in the loop but I appreciate your comments about how your various camera phone mounts interfered with the use of it. Have you tried mounting extra water bottle bags or feed bags in the loop section? I’m wondering if that might provide me some storage while allowing my phone to be mounted over the top of them as you’s seems to be mounted in this video. I’m also wondering about the foam handlebar grips. I currently have the Ergon grips on my fat bike, which is where this bar is going, and I suspect I won’t be able to use them with the back sweep on the H bar.
Thanks for this review. Still don't know what we are going to do long term, but this looks like a good option.
Hi guys! Don't be afraid to give them a try, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Cheers
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures ya, this looks like a good set up with a lot of options! Always great content Dean, thanks.
@@joshandjamesvosperfromhere6887 thanks guys!
We ought to have a buffet model to choose a handlebar than having to dispose off the stock handlebar. Same goes with shifters, seats.
So nice that you're still able to get out. Its surprising what a few hundred km's distance does to the weather, I'm still hoping to get a ride or two in before the end of the year but looking less and less likely.
I have looked at the Jone's bar several times, still not ready to pull the trigger but getting closer.
Cheers
Bob...
Hello Bob. Yes we often get weather like this down here in Windsor, after all we as far south as northern California. I am hoping maybe we can put together a couple rides this summer. Cheers
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures Its surprising the difference a couple of hundred KM's makes, I think we are maybe 100km's north of Windsor but as you know the weather is quite different!!
Absolutely yes to a ride or two next year. I'm still planning my trip from Waterloo - Port Dover - Fort Erie - Niagara on the lake and return, weather permitting possibly late May. Let me know if that works, also hoping for at least 1 or possibly 2 more for 2023 also, location and distance TBD.
Stay warm Bob...
Great review. I'm looking at these for my Trek Farley.
I think CF vs. aluminum is about more than weight. Carbon is .ore compliant and absorbs chatter and buzz feedback. Basically it's more comfortable. Is it $200 more.comfotsble? I dunno. But I wouldn't dismiss it -- I'll be considering it.
Hi Fred. Yes carbon does have the benefits you mentioned. But when you start clamping things to your bars like camera mounts etc it does have a affect on those attributes. I have always used carbon bars but I do not thing in this situation that the $200 is worth it. I use a carbon seat post and most importantly I have really good carbon rims which is definitely the best use of carbon on a bike for performance if one can afford it.
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video.
Cheers
thx. greetings from germany
Your welcome. Thanks for watching!! Cheers
I really like this style of bar. I have Surly Moloko bars on my Surly ECR which are very similar though weigh in heavier at 709g. Kind of expensive too!
Hi JP. I almost got the Moloko bars instead but in the end went with Jones. The Moloko bars do look comfortable as well. Cheers
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures I don't see any advantage with the Moloko bars over the Jones bars. They are more expensive and heavier. The only reason I have them is that they came with the bike. Take care. JP
Wide flat bars with minimal rise and backsweep are IMHO painful and useless for most people, unless you’re doing some real hardcore mtb riding. 680mm should be the maximum handlebar width on a new ”average” bike and if you need something wider, you buy the handlebar you need. A bit wider drop bar is the most comfortable one for my body and wrists, but I however purchased a Surly corner bar clone from Ali. I’m also thinking about buying that Jones bar. I have several bikes and it would cost way too much to have drop bars on all of those. I just wish these alt bars wouldn’t be so heavy and sometimes expensive 😅
These have been the most comfortable bars I have used. Yes I also wish the prices were better. But the reality is that cycling in general is a expensive sport/hobby and I don't see that changing anytime soon unfortunately.
Thanks for watching. Cheers
What modifications to gear shifts and brake levers are needed in going to the Jones H Bar? I have an over 20 year old Trek 4300 with stock Shimano handlebar and brake/shift clusters. I love this bike. But ordered the jones H Bar this week and just stumbled on your channel. Thanks for your channel and info!
Hi Mark. The only thing that may need to be done is to shorten or lengthen the cables. It's really no different than setting up other bars. Keep in mind that these bars are designed for comfort and for a more upright riding position so having a saddle made for a upright riding position is very important if you are riding long distances.
I hope they work out for you. Thanks for watching. Cheers
Great channel. Subscribed. Could I ask what make your Orange front rack is please and how it mounts? Many thanks, Wayne
Hey thanks for subscribing! The front rack is made by trek and the mounts are specific to the Trek 1120 fork unfortunately. Thanks for watching. Cheers
I wanted the Jones H-Bar® Loop Titanium 710. But very expensive lucky found same thing in Titanium for $98 on aliexpress .. same same but a lot cheaper it comfortable ride great for touring but not great for single track mountain biking .. good video
What's the brand?
@@chrisE815 i look and let you know
Thanks for the review. I have developed arthritis at the base of my thumbs and am looking to replace my down bars on my Specialized AWOL primarily used for touring/trekking. Would the Jones H bar be good for my situation. Thanks.
Hello Kevin. I can't say for sure, but I think they might help you with your issues. The H bars allow you to rest your hands in a more natural position I find. As well as having multiple hand positions. If you do try them out please let me know how your experience goes. All the best. Dean
Great inspiring video!
Can’t wait to see your next ride!
Can’t wait to get of the indoor trainer!
Cheers
I like your hat in this video. Do you by chance sell them?
Thanks for watching Jeremy! The hat I am wearing is actually a Burton snowboard hat. Cheers
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures it’s a cool hat! I hope to get out for my first back packing trip locally this summer. Maybe I could hook up for a small weekend run! I live just outside London.
Cheers!
what is the name on the front Rack
Thanks for that video. Question; I am using the Denham/Koga bar (similar to the VO Crazy bar but with no rise) which has a similar sweep back as the H bar. When you changed your stem to bring the bar closer to you, did/do the grips move past the fork stem…and if so, did/do you notice a big difference? Thanks!
Hello Reinhart. Yes the bar ends do come past the stem and yes I did notice a big difference. I was looking for the ability to sit upright at certain points in the day to help with the different injuries I have. The nice thing about the H bar is the very large grip area allows me to get get the hands further up the bar when needed. Thanks for watching Reinhart. Cheers
I should have mentioned that as far as handling goes I have had no issues.
What brand stem did you go with for that 30 degree? I just ordered a jones and was looking for a stem with those specs and can't find anyhting.
Happy New Year! I ordered a Ritchey stem, good quality stem at a reasonable price. Here is a link.
Cheers ritcheylogic.com/bike/stems/comp-4-axis-30d-stem
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures Happy new year! Thank you for the link, Im hoping I won't have to order a few lengths to get it dialed in to my liking.
Hi, If I have to put the bike upside down, in that case what kind of protection I can have so the Handlebar or grips do not get scratches?
What water bottle/stem bag is that?
Hello. The bag is by Oveja Negra and is called the Chuckbucket.
Who makes that front rack?
Hi John. It is a Trek Rack, unfortunately it is specific to the 1120 fork as it mounts directly to the fork. Thanks for watching. Cheers
I like your front rack. Do you have a link? Thanks.
Awesome to help keep the elderly and those with diminished upper body strength on their bikes👍
🤣😂
Glad I watched your video. Definitely don’t want the jones bar now from what I saw. You have it set to have only one or two hand positions. I definitely need more than that. Also, if your position works for you, all the power to you, but needing to shorten your stem to 60mm when you already have a bar with quite a bit backsweep has me think you need a different size bike, not stem.
The bars have more than two hand positions if you want. I'm sure you watched other videos and saw that. My bike size is fine. The reason for the shorter stem has to do with injuries from two pretty bad accidents. Therefore I need to be able to sit pretty much straight up for stretches to elevate pain.
After many hours on the bike I can say this setup works for me and that's all that matters.
Been working as mechanic at a bike shop for over 20 years now so I'm pretty aware of proper bike setup. Cheers
Almost 100$,and over half a kilo weight! Capitalism 😅
Greetings from Croatia 😎
Greeting from Canada!!