This is a great system for moccasin soles. I make my own shredded rubber from an old tire using a sharp farriers rasp (horseshoeing rasp). This method is quick, easy and makes no dust or fumes (like a grinder does) and best of all the two sides of the rasp can create two different sized rubber particles. The finer (file) side of the rasp makes very small particles that blend and stick very well for the first coating on the leather, and the coarse side makes slightly larger chunks that stick well to the first coat but give a nice textured traction surface to the soles. Give it a try if you're looking for a rubber source, it works very well and helps recycle a bit of scrap tire. As a bonus, a horseshoe rasp is one of the handiest tools you can have around for shaping axe handles, wooden snowshoe or sled parts and countless other wood-shaping tasks. -John
Nothing I have tried beats a good farriers rasp for shaping tool handles, it is an extremely fast and precise tool that leaves a fairly grippy texture(it should be noted that you probably want a smoother hammer handle if you don't have calluses)
I really enjoyed watching you show your abilities and skills on alone. the Strength and resilience you have is incredible and inspires me to find my own. thanks, you so much ky. I also apologize for abbreviating your name.
This is a great method to preserve mocs. Thanks for sharing. I'm thrilled with the results on my homemade mukluks that I made last Winter. I didn't have access to a tire recycler so I used a wire brush attachment on an angle grinder and ground down an old tire and got rubber dust that way.The puffs of black smoke and burnt rubber stench from my driveway were crazy. LOL.
Hi Jen. Saw the video of you making the mukluks and loved it. I have been looking for tire dust to glue to my own moccasins and cant seem to find it anywhere. Do you have a video of you grinding the tire? Perhaps I could do the same thing.
My wife and I both got excited to see you. We are both fans of yours since you went on Alone. Thank you for the video! I'm getting ready to make my first moccasins and I'm soaking in as much information as I can
Thank you for your video. I've always been interested in making my own footwear. I just haven't gotten around to doing it. Fixed many a shoe on my travels and loved they way they made Sandals in Mexico with the tread of a tire for the sole. I have no natural Hide(s) and no way or means of getting any so I'm looking at old truck tire tubes and stuff like that. I actually buy old sheets from the "New to You" Store for $2 a pop because I have so many uses for them. I'm on a flannel sheet kick now, imagining how warm some PJ's made with flannel will be. Oh, I'm lazy and instead of painting the soles, I'd use a shallow tray of mixture and just dip or "walk", the sole through the mixture in the tray. But that's just me. Have a great one and good luck.
@@parry4now I would assume not wearing them on cement. Although even on soft ground I would expect them to get holes before 23 years... but maybe he patches them.
junbh2 what type of leather are they made out of? If it’s elk or buffalo that makes sense, because deerskin does not last....even on natural ground. Also, the part of the animal’s hide makes a difference in how it wears.
Ive bought 2 pair in the last 20 years one pair I used for 18 years. I finally broke down a d bought another pair. And after 2 years they still look brand new. Thanks Minnetonka!!!!!!!
Hey.... this is great idea. I put a thicker piece of leather on the soles of mine with the rough side facing out ... I should gone this way instead !! Harley
Hello, I just sub'd as I'm making a pair of moccasins for the first time and need some help. I found Robert Badine's channel for his traditionally tanned moose hides and he is making a pair from that hide. He got me started on this moccasin I am now working on that is cow hide. Will be ordering some of Robert's tanned moose hide that is thicker and would like to finish them with the protective coating you are using here. Thank you and looking forward to seeing what you have on your channel.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I have been making moccasins for a few years now and I am always trying to improve and making them for versatile. Water proofing them is my next step. I went to your website and you guys mention there not to use on the hair side but only on the flesh side. Is this still your recommendation even if we sand off a layer to rough it up on the hair side? When you say "glue" are you talking about contact cement for the first layer? I can see in the can it looks clearer than the rubber cement. Just wondering what type of glue you used please, thank you!
I just went to your website, and see that you have closed your retail business. Perhaps you can update this video to let people know how to obtain the materials to duplicate this process, since you no longer sell the kits. Thanks.
There was a company, I believe from NewEngland, that made really nice moccasins in the 60’s and 70’s. Maybe they are still in business. They were very good quality and widely distributed. They started to do something similar to some of their moccasins. You may be able to find more info in old copies of The Whole Earth Catalog. Good Luck and take care. P.S. They might have been made by Quoddy in Maine.
Hi there, I'm about to start moccasins from scratch (tanning onwards). These are such useful videos. Are you able to suggest an alternative to rubber for the soles please?
Thank you for your comment. When the glue is keep well sealed this is it's natural consistency. But when it gets thicker, you can use a toluene thinner to make it more spreadable. Hope this help!
This is awesome - Been wanting moccasins and have thought about the rubber sole but want to still be able to "ground" myself to the earth - Was thinking, and maybe you've done this already, have you thought about or done the rummer just where the foot makes contact? It would look like a foot print on the bottom of the moccasin instead of the entire bottom being covered - It's a thought :)
@@randypond7499 I don't remember where we got it but it didn't work that great. We used it to add thickness to the sole of running shoes that were wearing out, and it stayed on for awhile, but not long enough that I would recommend it as a great fix. My guess is that the dust works better. the comment of @user-ff6rr7kq7t below may help explain why
not to be picky but do you need mask for protection from solvent? easy rubber sole good for where i live can be wet thanks now i know i do not need thick sole if no like
I have a pair of rabbit fur boots with the gummy sole and have had for many years..this year the soles are really sticky and stick to floor when I walk..what can I do...I love my boots and have had for many years... Thank you Marilyn
hey i want to waterproof some mukluks for snowshoeing. I've got a can of black flexyseal crap they sell on tv. You think that might work? It didn't work to seal my rubber boots.
Thanks for the info. Does it work for suede bottoms also, and do I need to ruff up the suede prior to painting? Oh, and can I run the glue, and glue/rubber combo up higher on the perimeter to cover the seam with sewing part? Thank You
Hi, I'am from germany and maybe I will make such kind of rubbersoles on moccasins I also maybe will buy. To avoid so much costs for me (buying in the US), could you please tell me exakt name(s) of cement brands like you use, wich I also can buy in germany or other EU- countries ? regards from germany
there is healing in being grounded to the earth. rubber soles interrupts our electrical connection to the earth (grounding). be sure to connect at some point and not constantly be in rubber soled shoes.
I have many pairs without the soles and frequently am barefooted. The soles prolong the life of my favorite moccasins but can appreciate the quality without.
Insulating the body from an electrical connection to the Earth is inherrently unhealthy. The outer soles of my brain tanned smoked moosehide mocs are very tough. They do need regular maintenance. The biggest problem is walking on pavement. On my farm a pair of mocs lasts a few months. My mukluks are 4 years old. Since they only get worn in the snow there is very little wear. I have tie on flexible "treads" made from flexible woven grass that actually work well on ice. I think your idea of adding rubber is a good idea for most people and probably is effective for added traction. It obviously is good for extending the life of mocs as well. For temporary use on pavement I wear military surplus "galoshes" i put them on over my mocs if I have to travel to town.
Where do you end up buying the rubber that you add to the cement? I need to re-sold my mukluks, and have no place local that will do it. I was going to buy crêpe natural gum rubber and cut out my own soles, but I like this idea a lot better!
Hi Wren, we get our rubber dust from a tire re-capping facility. If you don't have access to one, you can purchase a kit from our website here: lureofthenorth.com/product/clothing/footwear/rubber-soling-kit/ Thanks so much for your suppot!
This is a great system for moccasin soles. I make my own shredded rubber from an old tire using a sharp farriers rasp (horseshoeing rasp). This method is quick, easy and makes no dust or fumes (like a grinder does) and best of all the two sides of the rasp can create two different sized rubber particles. The finer (file) side of the rasp makes very small particles that blend and stick very well for the first coating on the leather, and the coarse side makes slightly larger chunks that stick well to the first coat but give a nice textured traction surface to the soles.
Give it a try if you're looking for a rubber source, it works very well and helps recycle a bit of scrap tire. As a bonus, a horseshoe rasp is one of the handiest tools you can have around for shaping axe handles, wooden snowshoe or sled parts and countless other wood-shaping tasks.
-John
Nothing I have tried beats a good farriers rasp for shaping tool handles, it is an extremely fast and precise tool that leaves a fairly grippy texture(it should be noted that you probably want a smoother hammer handle if you don't have calluses)
Genius! Thank you!
Hello what part of the tire do u use or does it matter and would you happen to know the mix ratio of contact cement to rubber
Great tip
I really enjoyed watching you show your abilities and skills on alone. the Strength and resilience you have is incredible and inspires me to find my own. thanks, you so much ky. I also apologize for abbreviating your name.
This is a great method to preserve mocs. Thanks for sharing. I'm thrilled with the results on my homemade mukluks that I made last Winter. I didn't have access to a tire recycler so I used a wire brush attachment on an angle grinder and ground down an old tire and got rubber dust that way.The puffs of black smoke and burnt rubber stench from my driveway were crazy. LOL.
Hi Jen. Saw the video of you making the mukluks and loved it. I have been looking for tire dust to glue to my own moccasins and cant seem to find it anywhere. Do you have a video of you grinding the tire? Perhaps I could do the same thing.
My wife and I both got excited to see you. We are both fans of yours since you went on Alone. Thank you for the video! I'm getting ready to make my first moccasins and I'm soaking in as much information as I can
Thank you, I make Moccasins, never thought of this. An amazing Idea!
I just bought my first mocassin kit from Lure of the North. Waiting for it to arrive. Woo hoo!
Great. Thanks for showing us and take care.
Thank you for your video.
I've always been interested in making my own footwear. I just haven't gotten around to doing it. Fixed many a shoe on my travels and loved they way they made Sandals in Mexico with the tread of a tire for the sole.
I have no natural Hide(s) and no way or means of getting any so I'm looking at old truck tire tubes and stuff like that.
I actually buy old sheets from the "New to You" Store for $2 a pop because I have so many uses for them. I'm on a flannel sheet kick now, imagining how warm some PJ's made with flannel will be.
Oh, I'm lazy and instead of painting the soles, I'd use a shallow tray of mixture and just dip or "walk", the sole through the mixture in the tray. But that's just me.
Have a great one and good luck.
I'm wearing moccasins that are 23 years old and they are untreated.
Wear them daily, in and outside.
But this is a great way to modernise footwear!
@@parry4now I would assume not wearing them on cement. Although even on soft ground I would expect them to get holes before 23 years... but maybe he patches them.
junbh2 what type of leather are they made out of? If it’s elk or buffalo that makes sense, because deerskin does not last....even on natural ground. Also, the part of the animal’s hide makes a difference in how it wears.
Yes please tell us what type of leather of what thickness lasts 23 years?
Ive bought 2 pair in the last 20 years one pair I used for 18 years. I finally broke down a d bought another pair. And after 2 years they still look brand new. Thanks Minnetonka!!!!!!!
Bb
Im lookin from Russia ! Its amazing!!!!! Your mocs look great
u young lady are an amazing person ty
Hey.... this is great idea. I put a thicker piece of leather on the soles of mine with the rough side facing out ... I should gone this way instead !!
Harley
Love your videos!
YES! That's exactly what i needed
Thank you!
Love it. Thanks for the advice
Looking forward to being able to purchase a moccasin kit from you soon. :)
Thanks for the video, it was very informative and practical!
Hello, I just sub'd as I'm making a pair of moccasins for the first time and need some help. I found Robert Badine's channel for his traditionally tanned moose hides and he is making a pair from that hide. He got me started on this moccasin I am now working on that is cow hide. Will be ordering some of Robert's tanned moose hide that is thicker and would like to finish them with the protective coating you are using here. Thank you and looking forward to seeing what you have on your channel.
I have a feeling your mans life is awsome!!-
What is the wear life of these shoes with the rubber sole
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I have been making moccasins for a few years now and I am always trying to improve and making them for versatile. Water proofing them is my next step. I went to your website and you guys mention there not to use on the hair side but only on the flesh side. Is this still your recommendation even if we sand off a layer to rough it up on the hair side? When you say "glue" are you talking about contact cement for the first layer? I can see in the can it looks clearer than the rubber cement. Just wondering what type of glue you used please, thank you!
Very good 👍
I just went to your website, and see that you have closed your retail business. Perhaps you can update this video to let people know how to obtain the materials to duplicate this process, since you no longer sell the kits. Thanks.
There was a company, I believe from NewEngland, that made really nice moccasins in the 60’s and 70’s. Maybe they are still in business. They were very good quality and widely distributed. They started to do something similar to some of their moccasins. You may be able to find more info in old copies of The Whole Earth Catalog. Good Luck and take care. P.S. They might have been made by Quoddy in Maine.
You rock!
Hi there, I'm about to start moccasins from scratch (tanning onwards). These are such useful videos. Are you able to suggest an alternative to rubber for the soles please?
Great, thank you! What is the glue, please? I could not catch it. sorry.
Yes thank you I been looking for something like this ?? Can this be applied to suede soles ??
I like your idea, but with the advent of Flex Seal, would that be a better option, as you can build up multiple layers?
It could be, but we haven't played with that product.
A tip ad fore to the contact cement like schow mackers do it helps whit the binding .
Enjoy looking at your UA-cam channel
Cool video! I’m curious what is the reason for doing this? Can you just wear them without rubber?
My guess is that they would keep the bottom from getting wet and providing a small amount of cushion
What glue are you using?
Hi thanks for the video, I was wondering did you thin down the glue as the barge cement I have isn't this runny.
Thankyou.
Thank you for your comment. When the glue is keep well sealed this is it's natural consistency. But when it gets thicker, you can use a toluene thinner to make it more spreadable. Hope this help!
Thankyou for getting back to me and letting me know.
Can you use this process for suede and soft leather fabrics
This is awesome - Been wanting moccasins and have thought about the rubber sole but want to still be able to "ground" myself to the earth - Was thinking, and maybe you've done this already, have you thought about or done the rummer just where the foot makes contact? It would look like a foot print on the bottom of the moccasin instead of the entire bottom being covered - It's a thought :)
holy mackerel !!
How well do those soles work for winter wear on mukluks? I like to go hiking in the woods, which means slush and ice.
Any chance you would be willing to share where you purchased your powder rubber?
Hello, what is the black stuff you mixed with the cement?
How do the rubber sole keep you grounded?
thank you
Have you tried the same method with crumb rubber rather than dust? That's what I have and hoping it will work
Did the crumb rubber work? Where do you get it?
@@randypond7499 I don't remember where we got it but it didn't work that great. We used it to add thickness to the sole of running shoes that were wearing out, and it stayed on for awhile, but not long enough that I would recommend it as a great fix. My guess is that the dust works better. the comment of @user-ff6rr7kq7t below may help explain why
Where can I buy the rubber dust? 👍
Good Question...?
hello from Russia! please tell me what you put on the sole? thank you
Would it work if you extended the sole half an inch up all round the shoe? For extra waterproofness. Or would it crack at the flexing areas? 🤔
Yes you definitely could do this! Just make sure you roughen up all the area you plan to sole otherwise it will peel off.
not to be picky but do you need mask for protection from solvent? easy rubber sole good for where i live can be wet thanks now i know i do not need thick sole if no like
Coat them with flex seal! Half the time...less mess
I have a pair of rabbit fur boots with the gummy sole and have had for many years..this year the soles are really sticky and stick to floor when I walk..what can I do...I love my boots and have had for many years...
Thank you Marilyn
Seems like washing it, and adding a new layer would probably help
Wood this work on suede moccasins?
Nice product
Thank you!
How to purchase sewing kits
Hi can you give me the names of the ingrediants you used , I cannot hear too well anymore, the liquid rubber i heard but the rest i didnt get.
Muy bien tu trabajo mocasin muy lindos. quisiera aprender como coser a mano yo soy talla 42 no tengo patron como hago saludos desde Venezuela.
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Will this work on pre oiled moc soles?
Can you please post a link to your website where to buy. Thanks
Hi! You can purchase the soling kits here: lureofthenorth.com/product/clothing/footwear/rubber-soling-kit/ Thank you!
hey i want to waterproof some mukluks for snowshoeing. I've got a can of black flexyseal crap they sell on tv. You think that might work? It didn't work to seal my rubber boots.
That didn't work for me at all. Just made a huge mess. It flaked off everywhere, ugh. Lesson learned.
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How thick or how many layers is overkill
How can I place an order?
Thanks for the info. Does it work for suede bottoms also, and do I need to ruff up the suede prior to painting? Oh, and can I run the glue, and glue/rubber combo up higher on the perimeter to cover the seam with sewing part? Thank You
Hi, I'am from germany and maybe I will make such kind of rubbersoles on moccasins I also maybe will buy. To avoid so much costs for me (buying in the US), could you please tell me exakt name(s) of cement brands like you use, wich I also can buy in germany or other EU- countries ? regards from germany
there is healing in being grounded to the earth. rubber soles interrupts our electrical connection to the earth (grounding). be sure to connect at some point and not constantly be in rubber soled shoes.
I have many pairs without the soles and frequently am barefooted. The soles prolong the life of my favorite moccasins but can appreciate the quality without.
Is your web store still open? I want to buy the soling kit
Yup, still going, catching up from winter orders at the moment!
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i have loads of rabbit fur that i am willing to trade for a pair? i will ship as many rabbit hides as you want for free
We've just sold out the last of it, sorry!
So basically this is just flex seal? You could probably use that and get a similar result.
Insulating the body from an electrical connection to the Earth is inherrently unhealthy. The outer soles of my brain tanned smoked moosehide mocs are very tough. They do need regular maintenance. The biggest problem is walking on pavement. On my farm a pair of mocs lasts a few months. My mukluks are 4 years old. Since they only get worn in the snow there is very little wear. I have tie on flexible "treads" made from flexible woven grass that actually work well on ice. I think your idea of adding rubber is a good idea for most people and probably is effective for added traction. It obviously is good for extending the life of mocs as well. For temporary use on pavement I wear military surplus "galoshes" i put them on over my mocs if I have to travel to town.
👠👞🥾👢👟🌹
But by using rubber soles you have insulated yourself from Mother earth so you are now losing the healing connection with the Mother😢
Boring. Some music might help
Not boring at all. Plus when there's no music, you can add your very own in the background!
Lol wtf 😂
Where do you end up buying the rubber that you add to the cement? I need to re-sold my mukluks, and have no place local that will do it. I was going to buy crêpe natural gum rubber and cut out my own soles, but I like this idea a lot better!
Hi Wren, we get our rubber dust from a tire re-capping facility. If you don't have access to one, you can purchase a kit from our website here: lureofthenorth.com/product/clothing/footwear/rubber-soling-kit/
Thanks so much for your suppot!