The Sterling Slaughter 1965 Topps card sale may have also benefited from having a Cubs connection. There's a particularly devoted fan base there that pursues high grade copies of (even obscure) vintage players.
The Wemby graded pop is wild! I agree with all your analysis, but one more thing that volume of grading shows is the ubiquity and ease of grading, particularly compared to the Shaq/Curry examples you gave. Everyone who pulls a Wemby knows grading is likely best way to maximize value and they have lots of easy ways to get the cards graded. Great video, Chris!
My first thought with the Brady card was that a bunch of them were graded initially by Beckett (and maybe some getting regraded by Beckett to improve the sub grades like you said) but then a lot of them getting cracked out of Beckett slabs and put in PSA slabs since PSA commands such a higher premium than Beckett does.
Similar to the 1992 draft class then. Shaq, the first pick. Alonzo Mourning... the 2nd pick. Then Christian Laettner. I think Wemby's card prices will be similar to Shaq's in the future. That's even if though, he ends up being an all-time player, which also remains to be seen. Maybe his 1/1's and/or auto's? Will retain some value. But I wouldn't bank on that just yet, either.
You know a card is mass produced when you go to a 400+ table card show and see Wemby cards in EVERY showcase! I have seen them in vintage cases, pokemon cases, and in soccer and ufc cases. Some cases would have 1 Lebron , 1 Shai, 1 Luka, and 50 Wemby cards!
I told my coworkers at my card shop last week to stop submitting any wembys for grading unless they are low numbered or signed. It was at the point where we were losing money getting base graded
You can't say these companies are "professionals' when right off the bat they "didn't" keep track of the numbered cards which as we knew then and now they carried way more value. That is nowhere near considered "professional"They left that gap to take advantage as long as possible. Dirty dirty business!!!! I picked up on that right off the bat being in cards for over 45 years now and saw how fishy that was. Beckett and PSA are completely unprofessional and not to be trusted for that reason all alone. Nothin' else to be said, I have discussed this at length with several wealthy businessmen and the vote was easily unanimous.
Thank you for doing the grading pop investigation, I have been wanting this shown for a long time, that the number of grading attempts exceeds the actual print run of a card. Shows the inaccuracy of pop counts.
Another great video. With regards to the 1965 psa 9s,I do echo the cub fan effect, but definitely wouldn’t have thought 8-9x worth. I do agree with your take, two people might have needed it and a bidding war ensued.
The PSA set registry also has team sets, player runs, HOF rookie runs etc. I use it for my Tigers team sets, one is #3 currently. Really tough competition when you see the top sets with almost all PSA 10.
The Brady could, also, be a card that could be cracked and altered (trimmed, pressed, etc.) and re subbed, just with the borderless front and seemingly 'random' design.
Hey! A lot of people submit to BGS to get subgrades for cheap before submitting to psa for the upcharge potential. Think that’s what is going on with the Brady?
Go to analysis. Nice to hear your outlook has improved on the overall hobby participation. If only PSA could grade a bit more consistently! See you at the National next month!
I agree that the popularity of the "hobby" has grown - specifically for basketball - I think the growth and popularity is more impacyted by the international interest then just the US based folks. Also...PSA has agressivly grown it's non-USA based access to get cards graded. I wish PSA released data on where/what facility cards were being graded. Thanks.
I worked for a grading company for about 2 years. Its really tough to track them. We started adding the full serial to cards so instead of just the /50 it read 45/50 (or whatever).
i wanna believe with the wemby thing that’s it’s good for the hobby but i think it’s less about new collectors and more about collectors that are abusing the system since of investing in young stars
Absolutely insane to see how many Wemby cards have been graded in such a short time! And who knows long term how that will affect his values with there being so many cards available of his and in such high grade.
A few people have mentioned that the Brady rookie may have been double printed. If this were true would have known about it by now because we would have seen multiple copies of the same serial #. For example, right now there are 19 copies of this card available on eBay - all with clearly visible (and different) serial numbers out of 1250. With this card presumably on eBay constantly, the double printed scenario would have been exposed over a decade ago.
In the late 1980's and early 1990's, Ken Griffey Jr. cards and unopened wax boxes were "great investments" and people who didn't know anything about cards (or sports) bought them thinking this will eventually put kids through colleges. I have an antique kiosk near by and there are 2 cabinets FULL of worthless (not the rare ones) Griffey cards and another cabinet full of unopened 1987 through 1989 wax boxes. Wemby will end up in these cabinets in the future because people who don't buy cards or watch sports are being told that his cards are "great investments".
Question.... when a #'d card gets resubmitted for a new slab due to scratches, new label, etc, does that count as a regrade? Also remember that SP Authentic was the top tier set back in those years. Playoff Contenders wasn't as in demand, and the Leaf Limited, Flair Showcase, and other limited high tier cards were not as sought after. This was evident in 2001 when Michael Vick was drafted.
Interesting stuff really enjoyed these insights! The brady example is hilarious and I do often wonder how to best assume "real pops" for graded cards. Apply a 90% factor on the pop report to account for resubs? 80%? Should exclude psa 10s from that adjustment as well. And every card certainly has different "crack and resub" rates.
Regarding the Tom Brady card - is it possible to visually check each one graded at PSA and determine how many of each serial number have been graded? It would be interesting to see a log of all of these cards with the card serial number and PSA serial number. Then we might know what cards have not been graded by PSA and which ones multiple times.I suspect this kind of log would be impossible to compile for Beckett.
Would be interesting for sure. I don’t know why the grading companies don’t log the serial #, it would take an extra 30 seconds during the grading process to mark it down. I believe the Brady SP Authentic /1250 has been cracked from BGS cases and sent to PSA MANY MANY TIMES for higher reseller value. Pretty sure there are only 1250 made.
To the Shaq/Wemby comparison: card grading was a new, silly luxury back when Shaq was a rookie, so hardly anyone slabs '92 Shaq rookies back in '92... betting most of the slabs date from well after he's an established, dominant, hall of fame caliber player or possibly even the end of his playing days... collectors or speculators grading Wemby cards now are involved in a very different pursuit and hoping that he becomes an all-time great...
I wish you can do GameStop analysis since they will pay your graded sports cards. It will be a great video this channel. If you have time go your local GameStop buy your graded sports cards.
The Wemby situation is insane. Idk how his raw card is still $40 and his psa10s are averaging $140 when there's so many in circulation. I know the rookie class sucked and he was the only gem, but I don't understand why people are willingly paying so much when the card is so common.
These are the same idiots that spend big on every rookie thinking they'll be the next GOAT!! The fail to understand the simple fact that guys like that don't come around every f'n year!!!
Sterling Slaughter, played in 6 games. Has a career WAR of -0.3. It could be the PSA set registry. Or the card was bought by Sterling. It would at least make for a pretty cool story to tell his grandkids.
Maybe a noob comment here, but could you show how you got that list that shows total-graded across all the grading companies (for the Brady)?? And then how did you get all the Shaq, Steph, Giannis & Wemby cards-graded totals in order like that too?? 😅 super awesome tools, and would love to know how to do searches like that. Love all your content, thank you for your videos Chris! 🙏🏼
Imagine paying for and owning a 10-grade, numbered Tom Brady RC and now realizing there's a possibility it's fake. Ouch. As far as the volume of grading going on right now, I think slabs are becoming the new top-loader. I mean, collections do look nicer in these slabs. And they work great for a card. You can still see the entire thing, unlike comic books and video games where you're restricted to just the cover and box. You can't read the story or play the game. That kind of sucks.
I’m slabbing and selling every Victor I hit. So this data is telling me I’m not alone and I personally think a huge crash could be coming. There aren’t that many collectors taking these cards out of circulation
ReL 1965 Slaughter. There were only 2 bidders that went beyond $83. If the item was paid for then, it looks like indeed there was a battle between two set registry guys for this card. The last one sold on ebay was about 2 years ago, for $45.75. At 20x that, it is not exactly a great financial investment.
yeah this was my first thought that it could be as little as just 2 different bidders fighting over it. i mean im sure theres a million people putting together a high grade 65 topps collection. if youve been searching for slaughter for 5 years or its the last card you need or whatever you might very well be willing to go to war for it. also, it could certainly have nothing to do with the set registry at all.
Sont call it junk era because one legendary rookie is popular and people wanna grade them and keep them or collect. Wemby had the best rookie season better than any basketball player you are comparing him to. Its just smart collecting.
I know very little about the PSA set registry, but had a question: Are all of those records publicly available? Meaning, would there be a way to see which specific cards set builders are mostly in need of versus don’t need (for any given set)?
I have looked at targeting registry people for sales. I think it is public which cards are in their sets and what grade but only some share email addresses with the registry. Hopefully in the future PSA will assist with newly graded cards that set registry people are looking for.
Seems unlikely to me, wouldn’t a same-serial number be found by now on such a popular card? I think people have just tried crossing it over to psa from bgs MANY times over the years
@@ezmoney7249 Maybe, maybe not. Such a high serialed card would be harder to notice extras. It does seem unlikely, but also seems like a higher than zero chance.
The topps sterling slaughter thing is because it's an auction, and the only people who saw it in the short period it was up only wanted the slaughter. As a buy it now they both would have sold around the same. That's why you should never sell at auction
so you're saying that ppl interested in the Slaughter were also interested in the other player and gave all their attention to the Slaughter card? that doesn't make any sense. putting it auction got this seller a ridiculous amount for a common player. I think if the other player had sold for $1.50, he/she would have considered their sales for the day a huge win.
@@sisterraysbrother No. Im saying that because auctions are for such a short period of time, that the people who would be interested in the bob card never even saw it. Auctions get almost no views and are only up for a few days.
@@ikhbjhbkm5 No I didnt say that. Whatever it sold for at auction he would have gotten more with a buy it now. And the one that didnt sell for much would have gotten the same price. Auctions do not sell for nearly as much as a buy it now.
@@gabriels1163 I respect your opinion, but I disagree. the seller would not have made more on a 'buy it now' because they would not have ever imagined that the card would have sold for as much. also, because you can buy a card (any item on eBay, actually) for less in an auction, there are, imo, a lot more eyes on an auction - a lot more ppl filtering for auction listings only vs. those who look for 'buy it now' listings.
Shaq has 6,220 cards in 30+ years. Even if he only had cards produced in 20 of those years, that's an average 331 cards a year. In one year Wemby has had 1,136 cards created, nearly 4x. Even when comparing the current era to the junk wax era, the production counts have skyrocketed. I'd be curious of the number of cards created in the last year for Giannis & Curry comprared to their early years to see how many more cards are be being produced for them compared to their early years.
I would like to see if anyone can find an example of a numbered card being graded so many more times than what should exist like the Brady. I do not have research but I thought that a normal expectation was that around 50 % of the ones created are graded according to counts. Expect some (10% ?) are regrades. The rest are lost in shoeboxes or still in wax. That Brady feels like someone else suggested here in the comments - there were more than 1250 printed
I bought millions of dollars of early 90’s baseball cards hoping that would put my kids through college! I am still hoping I can cash-in on my millions of dollars! 💵
Andrew McCutchen just became the 8th player in MLB history to have at least 2,000 hits, 400 doubles, 50 triples, 1,000 rbi, 200 sb, 1,000 BB and 1,000 runs scored. He joins Mays, Aaron, Frank Robinson, Brett, Winfield, Barry Bonds and Beltran.
@@collectorinvestordealer Chris, thank you for the response. Neithe Goldin or Ebay asked for something like it. I am registered at PWCC as well, I never bought a card there, and the registration did not ask for it.
With the Brady, another factor is that there are certainly some number of them that haven't even been released from a pack. They're sitting in sealed boxes. Figure that out of the 1,250 total, around 5%-10% are still in packs, if not even more. So it is more likely that the 1,700+ times it was graded was spread out over 1,125 or less copies.
We have likely reached the point where, on a yearly basis, the amount of money spent on plastic (grading) EXCEEDS the amount of money spent on the actual cardboard (cards) itself. That is not good for the hobby.
Not sure if this is true or not, but it might be - especially if you count money spent on sleeves, hard cards, semi-rigids, and graded case protectors in the "plastic" column.
@@thomascourt4935 back during the 2020 rona boom....i made at least $5k just off of flipping card savers/team bags/sleeves etc. it was crazy. i couldnt beleive it. i would get 10 cases of card savers and they would literally be sold out in a weekend.
It would be interesting to see how many cards graded. Are worth less, than the cost of grading. I hate when dealers use the line: It's a good price. You're getting a good deal. Like, it's not my fault they made the choice to get their card in a slab, and it didn't bring them the value they were hoping for...
lololol ok first of all we're gonna need to see the math on that. but even if it is true, why is that necessarily automatically bad for the hobby?? can you explain that part too please? i swear to god this is the only industry that can see massive massive growth over a small timeframe and still have everybody in it pontificating on how every thing thats happened is so bad for it. do you think the people at nvidia are all like 'man this huge ai explosion is so bad for our industry'???
@@moaf2padventures757 NVDA stock price is up around 1100% in the past two years, while many graded sports cards are down 50-90% in the same time period, you chose a very bad comparison, and btw I sold about 65% of my NVDA in the past two weeks. Little Johnny has $x a year to spend on sports cards. He can spend $x on cardboard, or he can spend 1/2X on cardboard and 1/2X on plastic. With 1/2 the money going to plastic, there is less money to spend on cardboard, wether new or older cardboard, which reduces the total amount of cardboard purchased, which is bad for the hobby.
Not a chance. It that had happened we would have known it by now. With so many of those cards being graded and sold (19 are on eBay right now) a double print run would have been noticed and exposed. Two of every card numbered 1-1250? Like playing poker with two Ace of spades in the deck, eventually two Brady cards with the same number (0456/1250 for example) would surface and the internet would explode. The card has been basically constantly on eBay for the past 15+ years!
@@cod-the-creator Probably true, but not exactly (I think). Anyone trying to make a fake of a serial numbered card is in for an uphill battle. The best case scenario would be to monitor eBay and other auction sites for a few years - keeping track of every serial number of the card. After a few years, I would be willing to bet that the list of serial numbers would be easily in the hundreds. Then the fakes would be made with serial numbers that had not yet surfaced publicly, thereby giving you the best chance that the actual cards are still in unopened packs or in private collections and out of the public eye.
Proving once again that the only bigger racket than producing cards is grading cards. We'll be going to shows in 2034 and buying these over-produced, over-graded junkola for a buck.
Enjoyed it. A million Wemby PSA 10’s may one way value as toilet paper but a 1954 Topps Joe Black will always keep collectors coming back.
The Sterling Slaughter 1965 Topps card sale may have also benefited from having a Cubs connection. There's a particularly devoted fan base there that pursues high grade copies of (even obscure) vintage players.
That was my initial thought as well. 👍
Great point
Junk wax 2.0, and junk slab both fit the current era in the hobby.
The Wemby graded pop is wild! I agree with all your analysis, but one more thing that volume of grading shows is the ubiquity and ease of grading, particularly compared to the Shaq/Curry examples you gave. Everyone who pulls a Wemby knows grading is likely best way to maximize value and they have lots of easy ways to get the cards graded. Great video, Chris!
Totally agree
Bingo. So dare I say logically there’s a crash coming? Emotionally all is great!
My first thought with the Brady card was that a bunch of them were graded initially by Beckett (and maybe some getting regraded by Beckett to improve the sub grades like you said) but then a lot of them getting cracked out of Beckett slabs and put in PSA slabs since PSA commands such a higher premium than Beckett does.
That third anomaly is wild and Shaw had a lot of rookie cards too. What the !
If the grading companies are keeping track of serial numbers it would be great to see how many of the 1250 Brady’s have actually been found and graded
Wemby was also the ONLY rookie from this class worth grading too. That probably helped a small amount, he was the only guy to chase.
Similar to the 1992 draft class then. Shaq, the first pick. Alonzo Mourning... the 2nd pick. Then Christian Laettner.
I think Wemby's card prices will be similar to Shaq's in the future. That's even if though, he ends up being an all-time player, which also remains to be seen. Maybe his 1/1's and/or auto's? Will retain some value. But I wouldn't bank on that just yet, either.
You know a card is mass produced when you go to a 400+ table card show and see Wemby cards in EVERY showcase! I have seen them in vintage cases, pokemon cases, and in soccer and ufc cases. Some cases would have 1 Lebron , 1 Shai, 1 Luka, and 50 Wemby cards!
I told my coworkers at my card shop last week to stop submitting any wembys for grading unless they are low numbered or signed. It was at the point where we were losing money getting base graded
You can't say these companies are "professionals' when right off the bat they "didn't" keep track of the numbered cards which as we knew then and now they carried way more value. That is nowhere near considered "professional"They left that gap to take advantage as long as possible. Dirty dirty business!!!! I picked up on that right off the bat being in cards for over 45 years now and saw how fishy that was.
Beckett and PSA are completely unprofessional and not to be trusted for that reason all alone. Nothin' else to be said, I have discussed this at length with several wealthy businessmen and the vote was easily unanimous.
Thanks for the vintage videos as well I mean I like learning things I don’t know about anyone else
Thank you for doing the grading pop investigation, I have been wanting this shown for a long time, that the number of grading attempts exceeds the actual print run of a card. Shows the inaccuracy of pop counts.
Another great video. With regards to the 1965 psa 9s,I do echo the cub fan effect, but definitely wouldn’t have thought 8-9x worth. I do agree with your take, two people might have needed it and a bidding war ensued.
The PSA set registry also has team sets, player runs, HOF rookie runs etc. I use it for my Tigers team sets, one is #3 currently. Really tough competition when you see the top sets with almost all PSA 10.
Trying to outshop multimillionaires isnt easy
The Brady could, also, be a card that could be cracked and altered (trimmed, pressed, etc.) and re subbed, just with the borderless front and seemingly 'random' design.
It was nice meeting you today. I bought the schoolboy Rowe and vida blue rookie. Hope you had a good day.
You too!
Hey! A lot of people submit to BGS to get subgrades for cheap before submitting to psa for the upcharge potential. Think that’s what is going on with the Brady?
Yeah that’s a good point, probably had something to do with it
89 Upper Deck Griffey? More 10s don’t seem to move it down … there are anomalies.
Go to analysis. Nice to hear your outlook has improved on the overall hobby participation. If only PSA could grade a bit more consistently! See you at the National next month!
I agree that the popularity of the "hobby" has grown - specifically for basketball - I think the growth and popularity is more impacyted by the international interest then just the US based folks. Also...PSA has agressivly grown it's non-USA based access to get cards graded. I wish PSA released data on where/what facility cards were being graded. Thanks.
Grading companies need to start doing a better job of tracking individual serial numbers.
I worked for a grading company for about 2 years. Its really tough to track them. We started adding the full serial to cards so instead of just the /50 it read 45/50 (or whatever).
And the wembys have only had about 8 months of nba cards released
wow, I actually have the Sterling Slaughter,. got it in a purchase years ago.
i wanna believe with the wemby thing that’s it’s good for the hobby but i think it’s less about new collectors and more about collectors that are abusing the system since of investing in young stars
Absolutely insane to see how many Wemby cards have been graded in such a short time! And who knows long term how that will affect his values with there being so many cards available of his and in such high grade.
It's entirely predictable how it will affect his card values. They will be virtually worthless.
A few people have mentioned that the Brady rookie may have been double printed. If this were true would have known about it by now because we would have seen multiple copies of the same serial #. For example, right now there are 19 copies of this card available on eBay - all with clearly visible (and different) serial numbers out of 1250. With this card presumably on eBay constantly, the double printed scenario would have been exposed over a decade ago.
Love your videos on strange anomalies.
In the late 1980's and early 1990's, Ken Griffey Jr. cards and unopened wax boxes were "great investments" and people who didn't know anything about cards (or sports) bought them thinking this will eventually put kids through colleges. I have an antique kiosk near by and there are 2 cabinets FULL of worthless (not the rare ones) Griffey cards and another cabinet full of unopened 1987 through 1989 wax boxes. Wemby will end up in these cabinets in the future because people who don't buy cards or watch sports are being told that his cards are "great investments".
Spot on
Question.... when a #'d card gets resubmitted for a new slab due to scratches, new label, etc, does that count as a regrade?
Also remember that SP Authentic was the top tier set back in those years. Playoff Contenders wasn't as in demand, and the Leaf Limited, Flair Showcase, and other limited high tier cards were not as sought after. This was evident in 2001 when Michael Vick was drafted.
I am sure that re-holder situations do not get added to the pop report.
Interesting stuff really enjoyed these insights! The brady example is hilarious and I do often wonder how to best assume "real pops" for graded cards. Apply a 90% factor on the pop report to account for resubs? 80%? Should exclude psa 10s from that adjustment as well. And every card certainly has different "crack and resub" rates.
Regarding the Tom Brady card - is it possible to visually check each one graded at PSA and determine how many of each serial number have been graded? It would be interesting to see a log of all of these cards with the card serial number and PSA serial number. Then we might know what cards have not been graded by PSA and which ones multiple times.I suspect this kind of log would be impossible to compile for Beckett.
That probably could be compiled but would take forever
Would be interesting for sure. I don’t know why the grading companies don’t log the serial #, it would take an extra 30 seconds during the grading process to mark it down. I believe the Brady SP Authentic /1250 has been cracked from BGS cases and sent to PSA MANY MANY TIMES for higher reseller value. Pretty sure there are only 1250 made.
Love hearing your Analysis. Always learn something new on your channel. Have a great weekend, my friend 🤙🏽
Thanks for answering my question! Evan
To the Shaq/Wemby comparison: card grading was a new, silly luxury back when Shaq was a rookie, so hardly anyone slabs '92 Shaq rookies back in '92... betting most of the slabs date from well after he's an established, dominant, hall of fame caliber player or possibly even the end of his playing days... collectors or speculators grading Wemby cards now are involved in a very different pursuit and hoping that he becomes an all-time great...
I happen to think for the Brady, some of those were possibly trimmed then regraded and they got by
brady,curry,lebron,jordan,mantle.... usually fake
Def not usually fake, sometimes fake usually trimmed or cleaned is more like it@@RandomEsports1
I wish you can do GameStop analysis since they will pay your graded sports cards. It will be a great video this channel. If you have time go your local GameStop buy your graded sports cards.
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The Wemby situation is insane. Idk how his raw card is still $40 and his psa10s are averaging $140 when there's so many in circulation. I know the rookie class sucked and he was the only gem, but I don't understand why people are willingly paying so much when the card is so common.
These are the same idiots that spend big on every rookie thinking they'll be the next GOAT!! The fail to understand the simple fact that guys like that don't come around every f'n year!!!
Sterling Slaughter, played in 6 games. Has a career WAR of -0.3. It could be the PSA set registry. Or the card was bought by Sterling.
It would at least make for a pretty cool story to tell his grandkids.
That makes sense… he is alive too.
Superb work as per usual! Great information and commentary.👍
Ref the SP Authentic Brady RC: hold on let me check your math…. Yep that’s what I got!
Ahh shoulda included those pics I sent ya, on this one, woulda been perfect.....
Maybe a noob comment here, but could you show how you got that list that shows total-graded across all the grading companies (for the Brady)??
And then how did you get all the Shaq, Steph, Giannis & Wemby cards-graded totals in order like that too?? 😅 super awesome tools, and would love to know how to do searches like that.
Love all your content, thank you for your videos Chris! 🙏🏼
That is all on gemrate.com
@@collectorinvestordealer awesome, THANK YOU!
Can it also be that there more Cub fans made a bid more than Orioles that raised the price?.
Imagine paying for and owning a 10-grade, numbered Tom Brady RC and now realizing there's a possibility it's fake. Ouch. As far as the volume of grading going on right now, I think slabs are becoming the new top-loader. I mean, collections do look nicer in these slabs. And they work great for a card. You can still see the entire thing, unlike comic books and video games where you're restricted to just the cover and box. You can't read the story or play the game. That kind of sucks.
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Slabbing/grading is the modern day screw down.
I’m slabbing and selling every Victor I hit.
So this data is telling me I’m not alone and I personally think a huge crash could be coming. There aren’t that many collectors taking these cards out of circulation
ReL 1965 Slaughter. There were only 2 bidders that went beyond $83. If the item was paid for then, it looks like indeed there was a battle between two set registry guys for this card. The last one sold on ebay was about 2 years ago, for $45.75. At 20x that, it is not exactly a great financial investment.
Lol buying purely for the set registry isn't either
yeah this was my first thought that it could be as little as just 2 different bidders fighting over it. i mean im sure theres a million people putting together a high grade 65 topps collection. if youve been searching for slaughter for 5 years or its the last card you need or whatever you might very well be willing to go to war for it. also, it could certainly have nothing to do with the set registry at all.
@@moaf2padventures757 lol I think a million might be a bit high, maybe several thousand at any given time might be more appropriate.
Odd. Bob Johnson is my buddy's mom's nickname
Sont call it junk era because one legendary rookie is popular and people wanna grade them and keep them or collect. Wemby had the best rookie season better than any basketball player you are comparing him to. Its just smart collecting.
I know very little about the PSA set registry, but had a question: Are all of those records publicly available? Meaning, would there be a way to see which specific cards set builders are mostly in need of versus don’t need (for any given set)?
Yes
The set owner has the option of making it public.
Yes, it’s all public and on the PSA website. I believe individuals can make their collections private.
I have looked at targeting registry people for sales. I think it is public which cards are in their sets and what grade but only some share email addresses with the registry. Hopefully in the future PSA will assist with newly graded cards that set registry people are looking for.
Since there are no parallels, what makes Brady’s SP Authentic “base”?
Means it's part of the standard base set. He uses that term strictly in the sense that this wasn't an insert or parallel
Richardbianco is correct. By base I just mean it’s part of a base set.
You missed a third option on the brady. Theycould have printed more than 1250, double printed?
Interesting…
That was my first thought. It's not like Deloitte & Touche audits the card companies' print runs.
Seems unlikely to me, wouldn’t a same-serial number be found by now on such a popular card? I think people have just tried crossing it over to psa from bgs MANY times over the years
@@ezmoney7249 Maybe, maybe not. Such a high serialed card would be harder to notice extras. It does seem unlikely, but also seems like a higher than zero chance.
The topps sterling slaughter thing is because it's an auction, and the only people who saw it in the short period it was up only wanted the slaughter. As a buy it now they both would have sold around the same. That's why you should never sell at auction
so you're saying that ppl interested in the Slaughter were also interested in the other player and gave all their attention to the Slaughter card? that doesn't make any sense. putting it auction got this seller a ridiculous amount for a common player. I think if the other player had sold for $1.50, he/she would have considered their sales for the day a huge win.
@@sisterraysbrother No. Im saying that because auctions are for such a short period of time, that the people who would be interested in the bob card never even saw it. Auctions get almost no views and are only up for a few days.
"That's why you should never sell at auction"?? Didn't you just argue that the seller made a extra $600 because he sold at auction?
@@ikhbjhbkm5 No I didnt say that. Whatever it sold for at auction he would have gotten more with a buy it now. And the one that didnt sell for much would have gotten the same price. Auctions do not sell for nearly as much as a buy it now.
@@gabriels1163 I respect your opinion, but I disagree. the seller would not have made more on a 'buy it now' because they would not have ever imagined that the card would have sold for as much. also, because you can buy a card (any item on eBay, actually) for less in an auction, there are, imo, a lot more eyes on an auction - a lot more ppl filtering for auction listings only vs. those who look for 'buy it now' listings.
Shaq has 6,220 cards in 30+ years. Even if he only had cards produced in 20 of those years, that's an average 331 cards a year. In one year Wemby has had 1,136 cards created, nearly 4x. Even when comparing the current era to the junk wax era, the production counts have skyrocketed.
I'd be curious of the number of cards created in the last year for Giannis & Curry comprared to their early years to see how many more cards are be being produced for them compared to their early years.
The name Sterling Slaughter is 9x more exciting than the name Bob Johnson, thus 9x the price.
A solid point
I believe Sterling had to leave MLB for the war, and ended up a Sargent who became an Iraq sympathizer, brotha
I think you are confusing him with someone else. Looks like he just flamed out.
Nope, that's Seargent Slaughter damitt!!😂
I would like to see if anyone can find an example of a numbered card being graded so many more times than what should exist like the Brady. I do not have research but I thought that a normal expectation was that around 50 % of the ones created are graded according to counts. Expect some (10% ?) are regrades. The rest are lost in shoeboxes or still in wax. That Brady feels like someone else suggested here in the comments - there were more than 1250 printed
I bought millions of dollars of early 90’s baseball cards hoping that would put my kids through college! I am still hoping I can cash-in on my millions of dollars! 💵
You should've just kept all the money you spent.
@@jeffreyval9665 Many people have been calling me one of the toughest guys they have ever met. Many people are saying it.
Million dollars in harsh toilet paper unfortunately
@@danbradley3294 What an original comment Dan!
Very interesting information!
I have not spent one cent on Wemby cards ....why invest when there are so many thousands of his cards
Andrew McCutchen just became the 8th player in MLB history to have at least 2,000 hits, 400 doubles, 50 triples, 1,000 rbi, 200 sb, 1,000 BB and 1,000 runs scored. He joins Mays, Aaron, Frank Robinson, Brett, Winfield, Barry Bonds and Beltran.
That's cool. I didn't know that.
What's the limiting factor? SBs or Triples?
Sterling is sergeant’s cousin
Rookies and stars should be way more desirable. Full Pats uniform and /1000, compared to practice jersey and /1250
Agreed!
Why does the new auction house want 2 references?
I think that’s fairly standard. You can use my channel as one of the references
@@collectorinvestordealer Chris, thank you for the response. Neithe Goldin or Ebay asked for something like it. I am registered at PWCC as well, I never bought a card there, and the registration did not ask for it.
Wow crazy Wemby grading stats I know what I will be staying away from in the future.
what site do you use for the graded cards stats in this video? very useful!
vintagecardprices.com
@@collectorinvestordealer thank you very much
How does prestine auction get away with them 10s BCCG. Making 💰. Someone needs to call them out. Some cards are not even 7s
So Wemby gets 4 Chips and he'll be worth 85$ like 1992 Shaq psa 10🤔
With the Brady, another factor is that there are certainly some number of them that haven't even been released from a pack. They're sitting in sealed boxes. Figure that out of the 1,250 total, around 5%-10% are still in packs, if not even more. So it is more likely that the 1,700+ times it was graded was spread out over 1,125 or less copies.
We have likely reached the point where,
on a yearly basis, the amount of money spent
on plastic (grading) EXCEEDS
the amount of money spent on the actual cardboard (cards) itself.
That is not good for the hobby.
Not sure if this is true or not, but it might be - especially if you count money spent on sleeves, hard cards, semi-rigids, and graded case protectors in the "plastic" column.
@@thomascourt4935 back during the 2020 rona boom....i made at least $5k just off of flipping card savers/team bags/sleeves etc. it was crazy. i couldnt beleive it. i would get 10 cases of card savers and they would literally be sold out in a weekend.
It would be interesting to see how many cards graded. Are worth less, than the cost of grading. I hate when dealers use the line: It's a good price. You're getting a good deal. Like, it's not my fault they made the choice to get their card in a slab, and it didn't bring them the value they were hoping for...
lololol ok first of all we're gonna need to see the math on that. but even if it is true, why is that necessarily automatically bad for the hobby?? can you explain that part too please?
i swear to god this is the only industry that can see massive massive growth over a small timeframe and still have everybody in it pontificating on how every thing thats happened is so bad for it. do you think the people at nvidia are all like 'man this huge ai explosion is so bad for our industry'???
@@moaf2padventures757 NVDA stock price is up around 1100% in the past two years, while many graded sports cards are down 50-90% in the same time period, you chose a very bad comparison, and btw I sold about 65% of my NVDA in the past two weeks.
Little Johnny has $x a year to spend on sports cards.
He can spend $x on cardboard,
or he can spend 1/2X on cardboard and 1/2X on plastic. With 1/2 the money going to plastic, there is less money to spend on cardboard, wether new or older cardboard, which reduces the total amount of cardboard purchased, which is bad for the hobby.
What happens when all the fakes out there now being made aren't caught by the grading companies????
nothing
Just more examples of why grading is just another money making scam. Everyone has to get as much money out of us as possible.
Maybe it’s growing cause it’s an un regulated market lol
Do you not think it's possible the printer just accidentally printed more than 1250 of that Tom Brady card?
I wouldnt think so but I guess its possible.
Not a chance. It that had happened we would have known it by now. With so many of those cards being graded and sold (19 are on eBay right now) a double print run would have been noticed and exposed. Two of every card numbered 1-1250? Like playing poker with two Ace of spades in the deck, eventually two Brady cards with the same number (0456/1250 for example) would surface and the internet would explode. The card has been basically constantly on eBay for the past 15+ years!
@@thomascourt4935 Well by that logic that means there couldn't have been any fakes created that were good enough to get graded either.
@@cod-the-creator Probably true, but not exactly (I think). Anyone trying to make a fake of a serial numbered card is in for an uphill battle. The best case scenario would be to monitor eBay and other auction sites for a few years - keeping track of every serial number of the card. After a few years, I would be willing to bet that the list of serial numbers would be easily in the hundreds. Then the fakes would be made with serial numbers that had not yet surfaced publicly, thereby giving you the best chance that the actual cards are still in unopened packs or in private collections and out of the public eye.
Def in a junk slab era. Everyone getting base rookies graded 100s of times and many end up like Kyle Lewis, Gavin Lux etc. Just dumb
All you need is 2 people that really want that card.
I recently purchased a 1921 W 551 Babe Ruth graded Authentic by SGC but the seller told me it was a replica as well do replicas hold any value?
Replica card is worthless cards. You got scam
Generally, replicas hold little to no value
Sadly, probably not the value that you paid for. Hope you can your money back.
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Proving once again that the only bigger racket than producing cards is grading cards. We'll be going to shows in 2034 and buying these over-produced, over-graded junkola for a buck.
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