i remember the time when the starship the booster catch was always represented with animations when it was talked about , and now it can be represented with the many views of the actual catches. it still blows my mind
Big shoes to fill when Jack's not around.... But my god, I'm starting to think that Jack's the one that has to fill YOUR shoes.. :D Great video, Max :)
the close up of the bottom of the boster on liftoff is moving from side to side, thats likely from the presure wave from the rockets acting on the tower moving it around rather than the booster itself moving from side to side, its likely to cause structual damage to the tower after many uses.
Don't understand why the booster connections are at the bottom. There's no reason to keep it connected until just before lift off. If they put the booster fill connects up top underneath the ship disconnect it would solve the cooking problem since both sets of disconnects would be well out of the way by the time the rocket plume gets to that height.
So, the booster QD has a reinforced hood to protect it.. so why dont the alignment pins on the OLM have a similar protective hood? It would save having the remove and reinstall them for each flight.. This extra work is gonna really impede the 3 flights a day cadence they are pushing towards..
I got one qestion where is Jack and Das, we need more Jack and Das in these and the lives everywhere cool to see new faces here and there though good work on this weeks episode Max you killed it and congrats to Jack and the awards, I can't wait to see starships flying from KSC as I am just north of there going to be some sick shots I can get from here and I may just have to drive down and watch one in person P.S. More Das and Jack lol
To install the chopsticks, is it really cheaper to use a crane, rather than a lift from below with somekind of custom crawler? They'll need to lift chopsticks many more times, so a custom crawler seems a better option. (i should have said is it faster, rather than cheaper)
So you think a custom designed and built crawler is going to be cheaper than using a crane they already have on site and doing things the way they're conventionally done?
@ They've made quiet a few custom carriers already for other things. The crane has to be assembled in situ. That takes time and then days to lift the chopsticks. In any case - its an engineering question, looking for an engineering/project management answer . its not an opinion. If chopsticks become significantly damaged, or there's an upgrade (as they're want to do and there already has been one and there will be others!) it requires their removal. It's not about cheaper (why is money a concern with Musk?), it's about faster.
Unrelated, except tangentially, to this video but: I would greatly appreciate an interview with Mary about her history with and vast input to NSF. I know Mary avoids being visually recorded for some reason but would an audio interview be feasible?
If they make the grid fins out of titanium like they do for the Falcon 9. won't that reduce the weight enough that they could leave the hot staging ring on?
Double check the story about grid fin warping. Engineering judgement doesn’t add up - that’s likely a camera or data issue. The visible warping pattern doesn’t buckle where it should, and the thermal / force load on the fins isn’t nearly as significant as the re-entry heat load.
We've seen it on the grid fins after the booster is on the ground and we've seen it with not just this booster but also with Booster 12. It's not a visual effect
I seen something breaking up in the atmospher last night over indiana ! Looked almost like the starship fail ! I wonder if that was BO upper stage re-entry ?
When they get to the 35 raptor version of the Booster, they can do the boost back and landing burns with just the five centre engines. 20G boost back and landing burn is ridiculous. 5 engines can achieve 8G burns after hot staging. With 35 engines, the outer 30 don't need to gimbal or restart - saving considerable cost and weight, even if an extra tonne or two of boost back propellant is required.
@@marcorobertorossetti2284no, they will get rid of the separate, expendable hot staging adapter: it will be reusable, and permanently integrated onto Block 2 and 3 Boosters.
The parts being damaged are not covered by the deluge system. The issue is that the booster comes down at an angle, so it toasts things on the side of the olm that are not blasted on launch.
Liquid oxygen is much denser than liquid methane. Keeping it closer to the engines puts the rocket's center of mass lower, which makes the rocket more stable. Also the hull supporting the LCH4 tank doesn't need to be as strong as the hull that would support the much heavier LOX tank under launch loads.
Over time the upright section of the tower will fail, as these structures are not designed to go through heat cycles, they have been made for strength, steel doesn't like extreme heating or cooling, over time steel will weaken, and then fail, let's hope it survives the next few launches, and catches.
I don't see how SpaceX is going to make an integrated non removable hot staging ring that won't sustain damage at separation. The new version will still needs to be removable after the catch. Otherwise if its damaged the entire booster becomes not reusable.
It's a low-contrast "subdued" design, worn on field uniforms where a brightly colored flag would not be appropriate. I have similar olive drab Texas state flags on some of my work clothing. - Das
1000 catches are decades away. Falcon 9 has launched around 445 times over 15 years and around 400 successful landings. Still an amazing accomplishment, but lets have some perspective people.
Hello NASASpaceflight, Great video. Just to make it clear I love watching your videos and what Elon, SpaceX and each of his companies do. So thank you.
Max gave this update like a veteran. High confidence and high detail. Appreciate it.
i remember the time when the starship the booster catch was always represented with animations when it was talked about , and now it can be represented with the many views of the actual catches. it still blows my mind
Two short scenes, starting at 04:22 "Not jealous at all", 05:01 "a very happy Jack" 🤣
and nice job, Max 🙂👍
Max update. Hey Max, great update. Thanks to all NSF team and keep up the great work.
Word of the Day “Ruhrpumpen” 😂 Danke Adrian
Not to be confused with "Rührpumpen". 😸
Max, Great Presentation! As always, a great job by the entire NSF crew.
To the point without childish hearsay. Great job Max.
Great job Max!!!!
Awesome job Max. You need way more screen time!!!
Max your work much appreciated
Max you did an amazing job. I hope we get to see you host more
Great update, Max!
Good job Max! Thanks!
Now the pad a chopsticks look so big lmao
Great job Max Really enjoyed your presentation
In the V3 booster, the hot stage shield is fully integrated into the Booster
And on v2
Big shoes to fill when Jack's not around.... But my god, I'm starting to think that Jack's the one that has to fill YOUR shoes.. :D Great video, Max :)
Thanks Max!
high quality production
good accurage job!
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Good job Max!
the close up of the bottom of the boster on liftoff is moving from side to side, thats likely from the presure wave from the rockets acting on the tower moving it around rather than the booster itself moving from side to side, its likely to cause structual damage to the tower after many uses.
Great job Max
great job Max
Very cool Max info Max .
Nice job Brother.
Don't understand why the booster connections are at the bottom. There's no reason to keep it connected until just before lift off. If they put the booster fill connects up top underneath the ship disconnect it would solve the cooking problem since both sets of disconnects would be well out of the way by the time the rocket plume gets to that height.
Well done, Max!
Thanks for the good information. A question: What does the all-black flag on your cap communicate? It goes well with your outfit. Sincerely curious.
So, the booster QD has a reinforced hood to protect it.. so why dont the alignment pins on the OLM have a similar protective hood?
It would save having the remove and reinstall them for each flight..
This extra work is gonna really impede the 3 flights a day cadence they are pushing towards..
I'm pretty sure this has been addressed on pad b's design. Pad a will likely be retrofitted at some point
@@EduardoSantiagoDev I agree
It is less work to remove and reinstall them, then refurbish them every Time like the BQD.
you did great.
Thank you Max
Great report, team. - Dave Huntsman
Seems the warped grid-fins caused 0 problems for the booster to return to base. Replace something tested and still fully functional?
A+ Max !
I got one qestion where is Jack and Das, we need more Jack and Das in these and the lives everywhere cool to see new faces here and there though good work on this weeks episode Max you killed it and congrats to Jack and the awards, I can't wait to see starships flying from KSC as I am just north of there going to be some sick shots I can get from here and I may just have to drive down and watch one in person P.S. More Das and Jack lol
This is answered on the video...
Enjoyed Max Evans!!!
How will they move the new launch mount
It must be unbelievable heavy?
I really hope raptor 314 is seen again on the next booster
To install the chopsticks, is it really cheaper to use a crane, rather than a lift from below with somekind of custom crawler? They'll need to lift chopsticks many more times, so a custom crawler seems a better option. (i should have said is it faster, rather than cheaper)
The chopsticks only need to be lifted once
So you think a custom designed and built crawler is going to be cheaper than using a crane they already have on site and doing things the way they're conventionally done?
@ They've made quiet a few custom carriers already for other things. The crane has to be assembled in situ. That takes time and then days to lift the chopsticks. In any case - its an engineering question, looking for an engineering/project management answer . its not an opinion. If chopsticks become significantly damaged, or there's an upgrade (as they're want to do and there already has been one and there will be others!) it requires their removal. It's not about cheaper (why is money a concern with Musk?), it's about faster.
great writing
Unrelated, except tangentially, to this video but:
I would greatly appreciate an interview with Mary about her history with and vast input to NSF.
I know Mary avoids being visually recorded for some reason but would an audio interview be feasible?
If they make the grid fins out of titanium like they do for the Falcon 9. won't that reduce the weight enough that they could leave the hot staging ring on?
Great information
Great Job Max!
Thanks for the update, Max!
Double check the story about grid fin warping. Engineering judgement doesn’t add up - that’s likely a camera or data issue. The visible warping pattern doesn’t buckle where it should, and the thermal / force load on the fins isn’t nearly as significant as the re-entry heat load.
We've seen it on the grid fins after the booster is on the ground and we've seen it with not just this booster but also with Booster 12. It's not a visual effect
Thanks for keeping us up to date
I seen something breaking up in the atmospher last night over indiana ! Looked almost like the starship fail ! I wonder if that was BO upper stage re-entry ?
Starlink satellite
Thanks ! Just crazy when i got home didnt see any news feed about a starlink mishap !
Can we get a Cape update?? A lot going on there to cover.
Great job Max, Jack who?
Welcome
More Max More! 🎥🚀✌🏻
Starbase update from KSC??? Unexpected crossover!!!
The chopsticks are up 🎉
Thanks Adrian for pronouncing that German word 😂
@6:38 "A big [tO0oB]" 😂
Great update Max! Jack better watch out!
Great job, Max!
When they get to the 35 raptor version of the Booster, they can do the boost back and landing burns with just the five centre engines. 20G boost back and landing burn is ridiculous.
5 engines can achieve 8G burns after hot staging. With 35 engines, the outer 30 don't need to gimbal or restart - saving considerable cost and weight, even if an extra tonne or two of boost back propellant is required.
It's not confirmed whether they'll have that amount of engines
they will get rid of hot staging with Super Heavy final version
@@marcorobertorossetti2284no, they will get rid of the separate, expendable hot staging adapter: it will be reusable, and permanently integrated onto Block 2 and 3 Boosters.
Very nice presentation!
What about side-by-side pilots. Only one 'fighter has ever done that - US F-111 which had swing wings, and was a bomber too.
19:04 Source?
I mean I get the hight, it listed it, but where did the length and width come from?
There are five coordinates listed in the entry for the building, one for each corner and one for the middle of the building.
Great Video, Thanks Max…
Would a water deluge help lessen any damage from the catch?
The parts being damaged are not covered by the deluge system. The issue is that the booster comes down at an angle, so it toasts things on the side of the olm that are not blasted on launch.
You would think they would have some kind of contraption that they can drop over the OLM instead of doing scaffolding all the time.
I doubt that any metal won't erode if they let the Super exhaust hit it without a lot of water shot onto it at the same time.
Inconel perhaps.
Anyone know why the methane tank is at the top when it means they need a longer transfer tube to get through the larger oxygen tank?
Liquid oxygen is much denser than liquid methane. Keeping it closer to the engines puts the rocket's center of mass lower, which makes the rocket more stable. Also the hull supporting the LCH4 tank doesn't need to be as strong as the hull that would support the much heavier LOX tank under launch loads.
@Spherical_Cow thanks, that makes sense. Thought it might be temperature related but they seem to be very similar.
2025 is looking to ve another jampacked year! Can't wait to see what they get up to at the Cape
WHAT DID YOU DO TO JACK
I have to admit Max's voice is better to listen to than Jack's. Sorry Jack nothing personal 🙂
Great work, Max! You give Jack some competition. Well done! Nice writing, Team!
Negative Y is normally right side
On Starship (and many other rockets), it is the left side
Over time the upright section of the tower will fail, as these structures are not designed to go through heat cycles, they have been made for strength, steel doesn't like extreme heating or cooling, over time steel will weaken, and then fail, let's hope it survives the next few launches, and catches.
Nonsense.
When are they going to reuse a booster?
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Ruhr pumpen, is german for stir pumps
I don't see how SpaceX is going to make an integrated non removable hot staging ring that won't sustain damage at separation.
The new version will still needs to be removable after the catch. Otherwise if its damaged the entire booster becomes not reusable.
Thanks Max and NSF team, hope you had fun Jack.
Hi dude
Good stuff! Nice update indeed. 👍
Interesting cap! What is the meaning of an American flag in black and white?
It's a low-contrast "subdued" design, worn on field uniforms where a brightly colored flag would not be appropriate. I have similar olive drab Texas state flags on some of my work clothing. - Das
Max. Decent delivery.
5:04 nsf should invest in some rtgs
1000 catches are decades away. Falcon 9 has launched around 445 times over 15 years and around 400 successful landings. Still an amazing accomplishment, but lets have some perspective people.
Who said it was going to be soon?
It probably self destructed the Starship
It’s amazing 6:36 how much this tube has change.
why is the methane downcomer no longer called methane downcomer?
Because it's a transfer tube not a downcomer
@@ale131296 thanks for clarifying
LOL, who are you? You aren't Bowers :) Hahahahaha
Jack looks abit different
Pad A should have shorter Chopsticks to maybe they will
HUGE!!!!!!!
I think you are the new NSF main YT reporter. Excellent presentation and delivery. Well done!
imagine lego make a working launchpad… 🎉
Hello NASASpaceflight, Great video. Just to make it clear I love watching your videos and what Elon, SpaceX and each of his companies do. So thank you.
Excellent Job Max! You and Jack are by far the best NSF hosts. Keep up the great work!
Wen 8?
Soonly.
Thanks you
for very good update. And many thanks for using metric system!
Max should be the full time Update guy!
Audio en español?
Eso es en el otro tipo de video sobre Starbase
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