HIGH ISO, Low Light Challenge- Sony A7s vs. A7r vs A7ii at Greyfriars Kirk Scotland by Jason Lanier
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- Please THUMBS UP and Subscribe! Have you ever wondered just how high a camera can go with ISO? Ever wanted to see a shootout challenge between some of the top Full Frame Sony A7 Mirrorless cameras to help you decide which one works best for you?
Join award winning photographer and Sony Artisan of Imagery Jason Lanier as he does a shoot out challenge between the Sony A7s, Sony A7r, and the Sony A7ii at the world famous Greyfriars Kirk Cemetery in Edinburgh, Scotland.
This video will show you how the Sony A7s retains it's title of the King of Low Light Cameras by taking you through all of the most extreme ISO settings it contains. Jason shoots the same shots from ISO 100 all the way up to an incredible 409,600 which will show the various amounts of noise that are prevalent in each one of the shots.
We hope this helps you gain an understanding of not only what the cameras can do, but also how ISO works in general. We thank you for watching and ask you to subscribe and share our videos with others....
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160000 ISO : we start seeing some noise
ISO 409 600 too much noise, unusable, crap camera! 😂😂😂
Just sittin' here with my $300 DSLR that goes up to 3200 ISO with plenty of noise.
Me too
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Hahahaha same here!
5d classic
Noise for days 😂
Hats off to Jason for making this video and publishing it, all while you are away from home. I am not a Sony shooter but this is all good comparative information.
THE MOST HONEST REVIEWER
Thank you!
Really great of you Jason to make theese kind if vids, i love it.
A7S willnbe my next camera
crank it up to 2M iso and you'll start to see corpses buried underground...
Good lord, could almost say that you're working in 7 am lighting in the last camera .. that truly is one of the most amazing iso shooters .. and still had the quality of image thats needed for perfection right through the range..
great video as always Jason big thumbs up
Jason Lanier I got into Sony's system because of your videos, and I should say, this is the best decision that I have made!
I shoot Canon for like 7 years (almost 8), and moving on to mirrorless, which is small and compact, especially Sony which grants you access to quality Zeiss lenses (currently enjoying my Loxia 50mm f/2 lens), this is just superb. ;)
Can't wait for the Australian workshop Jason
Jason - I was in Best Buy 5th Ave today and a foreign gentleman was drooling over the A7 for his videography we got to talking and almost immediately we both said "omg that video with the iso right ?!" .....so yeah clearly this video has made an impression.
Angel Rodriguez That's awesome man!!
Sony a7s series are just king of low light photography 👍 thanks for your effort
Wow I remember watching this video 4 years ago!
Hi Jason Lanier. The I.S.O range on the Sony A7s is mind blowing. I've just changed over to the Sony A7 mk2 from the Nikon D750 not tried the low light performance with it yet but loving how good my Sony is. Nice to see how they compare with each other. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks Jason, could you also do a Milky Way challenge with these three cameras? That would be helpful
Wow what a great comparison video. It just shows the reason for getting the right camera that suits your shooting requirements.I nearly bought the A7ii thinking because its the latest model, "its got to be better."You keep saving me time and money Jason.TILII
You provided a huge amount of extremely useful information in this video. Thanks Jason
At 409,000 iSO in my opinion I still like it cause it looks a little like a painting
Excellent video. Wish you would have thrown the A6000 for the heck of it. Keep talking, Jason. It never gets boring!!
WOW. Awesome, great video.
Great video man
nice review:), btw what lens are you using, and how much is it cost?
Hi jason which one is better for monochrome photography ?
great review. thanks. Appreciate the real world testing and comparison. Fantastic.
Wow! That really is amazing. Another thing that's amazing with it was when you were shooting video through it and it was even working with video. Like I had said, it was like color night vision. Great video Jason. I'll buy one of those when I can afford it.
Love your work Jason the a7 cameras are immense
Hi Jason! I want to buy 2x A7ii for wedding photography, but also I'm thinking on the way with 1x A7ii and 1x A7s (for low light photography). What side can you recommend me? I want only for photography, not videos.
Thank you, I really appreciate your work!
Great demo. Can u set all 3 cameras at 12 MPs to test at different ISO level? Lower MPs give much lower noise, and of course different result.
Thank-you for the comparison video. I was undecided about the A7s and the A7r, but since I do a lot of night shots I'm going with the A7s. Sony is great. I am no stranger to Sony cameras or their quality, since I own both a Sony Alpha a850 and the Alpha a900. Now, I want something smaller and will again purchase a Sony. They really are an amazing company!
Good to see you back in Scotland.i ound your channel a while back through your video of you shooting the sunrise in the highlands.i live in Edinburgh.
thank you so much the only good video i could find
would it make a big different when you use a 1.8 or 1.3 lens?
ISO "performance" is a very relative concept in my opinion.
1). I bet that when truly comparing apples to apples, pics from the 3 cameras resized to the lowest resolution of 12MP of A7S, they will look about the same given same ISO.
2). If you bring ISO 25600 shots from the A7R or A7II into lightroom, bring exposure up by 1 stop and then again resize them to 12MP and compare to same shot from A7S at ISO 51200 I bet results will again be quite similar.
Simple math really.
Since sensor size/technology is the same among the 3 cameras, playing with the pixel size/count on the cameras is just Sony's way of offering more cameras. Not saying it's a good or bad thing, just is.
Cheers,
Alex
Very informative Jason ,really enjoyed this - i'm leaning towards that A7s but will wait for your megapixel comparison video before i make my decision . Cheers !!
I've been a Canon only shooter for a decade. I just bought an A7ii. It blows the 5DmkII away. It is an amazing camera. The in body stabilization is phenomenal. And, the dynamic range is better than the Canon. I'm not a fan boy. I buy what works best. I'll be doing my first wedding with it in two weeks. .
Jefferson Davis Does the A7s also have body stabilization?
J. Ward Hi J. The A7s does not have it. They will hopefully be coming out with an A7sII this fall/winter that will have it. The A7ii and A7Rii have it, so hopefully they will update the A7s. :) The A7s beats everything at low light, but I've been really happy with the A7ii.
Jefferson Davis Indeed, since posting my question I found the answer. A shame really. I hate to wait for the a7sii. Especially since I'm looking for a camcorder as opposed to a camera. None the less, thank you for your reply! Have a good week Jefferson.
how did it how. now it is only 999$ I guess it is a steal
That's wild. Excellent comparison bro.
Thumbs up!~~John
Hi Jason,
Thanks heaps mate for the reviews.I am still not sure which way to go. This will be my last upgrade so want it to be perfect for my shooting styles. I own an A77 which I love BUT noise really annoys me. No ones fault but mine as I didn't know at the time I would end up enjoying night shots then. My passion now is Long exposures (using Lee big stopper and other filters) - camping under lots of stars and time lapses with that comes the learning game of using lights at night.
If I end up buying the a7sii when it comes out, what lens do you suggest for the night shots (stars and sky mainly) and also for day long exposures using the LEE filters. I want the best this time, Price matters not. This one I will take to my grave.
Great vid
Youre awesome! This just helped me a lot getting my final decision choosing out of those 3. But still I will stay tune for the next megapixels test before I finally get one! Thanks a bunch! Also looking forward to your Australia workshop! Your works are just RIDICULOUS!!! Haha.
That's awesome review. Thank you so much.
Thank you!
The A7S is amazing in low light.
I own one, with a fast lens I can see much better than my eyes can see.
The stills coming out are impressive.
But the videos are even more, you can go at ISO 50,000 or 80,000 and get usable footage.
So the trick to better low light shots is based more on the ISO performance of the camera? I know this may be a stupid question, but...
Is the a6000 a good option for low light? I mean if the a7s is a 10, how would you rate the a7ii, a7r and a6000? I've heard something about the cropped sensor having an effect on noise. But I haven't read anything yet.
Great video BTW, I always look up to learning more from you and all your videos.
Keep doing such an amazing work.
Jose Angel Hernandez ISO only effects how sensitive the sensor is going to be to light. Low light can be made brighter by opening the aperture or slowing down the shutter speed as well. But the wider you open the aperture, the less that'll be in focus. The slower you slow down the shutter speed, the more likely things are going to blur. So ISO helps to stimulate the sensor to be more reactive to the light that has been allowed in via the aperture and shutter speed.
ISO used to be called ASA for film back before digital. Essentially it was a more sensitive and reactive film stock that allowed photographers to have an F8, 160 shutter and still get a shot in less-than-ideal, lower light conditions!
Hope that helps!
Hi, The Photo/Video Show, thank you for the film background info. I do know how to work my way through the exposure triangle, but my concern in low light, I forgot to mention, was about the quality of the image noise wise. Specially with a cropped sensor camera such as the a6000.
For example...
How does a cropped sensor affect noise in an image, compared to a full frame sensor with the same megapixels?
For example, a6000 vs a7ii.
I've read about the crop factor, the effects using a full frame lens, it's effect on depth of field...
But how is noise affected?
Does having a cropped sensor affect how much noise you get out of the same ISO vs in a full frame?
And if so, how bad is it compared to full frame?
Thanks for the info, tho :)
Crazy camera...i must buy it...
Jason, I was waiting for you to tell us your thoughts about which is better in high iso between the a7r and a7ii. from what i'm seeing, the A7II is a bit better(forget about resampling the 36.4mp). What do you think?
I agree I'd go with the A7ii over the A7r for ISO. And I agree about the re sampling part...
Thanks. Good to know. I'm switching from A7R to A72 just because i'm doing weddings. So my wedding combo will be A72 and A6000. I don't need the 36.4MP, slows down my computer and no one ask for large prints from me. Biggest is 30 x 40 which the 24mp should be enough. A72 also has less shutterlag... 0.22sec vs 0.36sec(A7R)
I got one more question. You being an owner of all of the above. :) Do the AF of the A72 significantly faster than the A7R?
Thank you for this video comparisson
Jason which one is good in video Sony a7s or panasonic lumix gh4? what's your opinion.
Hi Jason. I am a wedding photographer and shoot on two a6000's. I will be getting an a7 series soon. What a7 series would you suggest? The issue I have with the a6000 is it struggling to focus in dark receptions. Would i be best going with the a7r2 for focus?
Thanks Jason for a very interesting and informative video. Looking forward to the megapixel test. BTW did you see Bobby? Enjoy the rest of your time in the UK.
hello, i wanted to know, witch camera would you recommend for concert shooting? Sony A7s II, A7r II, or A7ii? I was thinking A7s II because the low light, but also the R because it has higher MP. Thank you :)
Honestly, I'd like a slightly better iso performance over detail if you're going for low light shots. Besides, megapixels are overrated unless you need maximum detail in studio conditions.
Just think. You was about 1 1/4 stops away from one million ISO. Amazing.
You've got three bodies in a graveyard?? You Ghoul!!! (Loved the comparison by the way :-) )
Awesome video Jason. Looking at getting A7II.
That low light performance is insane. Wonder what Canon and Nikon are doing sitting on their behinds lol
what about the dynamic range though at those higher ISOs? How much room do we have to adjust the highlights and shadows?
For those of us slackers who haven't traded our original A7 bodies up to A7II, don't they share the same sensor, aside from the 5 axis stabilizer in the mkII?
For the money, the A7II is a great low light performer. The A7S is really nice, but what photographer worth their weight in salt would ever should shoot like that? Don't get it twisted, having the option is nice, but if I'm shooting in that little of light, I'm at least dragging an LED video light with me!
I shoot at high ISO all the time...it's more beneficial than you know..:)
The Photo/Video Show The sony A7S allows us to bump ISO and not worry about noise, and get a faster shutter speed to stop motion in lowlight situations, it is a excellent tool for stage performances or concerts. Team Fedora!
HepKitty Coins you are absolutely correct. I've done a massive project at the circus that is very similar lighting to a concert...the A7s is out of this world..:)
Yeah, for those situations I can definitely see the benefit!
Hi Jason, I am the wife of Lu whom is your team Fedora buddy on facebook.
Thats pretty insane Jason. Amazing that camera (A7s) can go that high and not be noisy. Most folks dont need super high ISO and so the A72 or A7r would be the better choice. Once the A7r2 comes out, all bets are off though. Looking forward to seeing the megapixel challenge video. Not sure if its out yet or not.
It's out now lol
Static shots results are easy to find. I am more interested in knowing their AF performance under low light situations and how they compare to Nikon and Canon counterparts. I know it's hard to do standard tests on those but personal experience is ok for me.
nice mr. jason...very nice
Great video, i am really happy with the a7s. love the low light king. And i am so looking forward for a workshop in australia
great review!
Jason Lanier Could you please do another one of these comparing the A7s to the new A7rii? It's got super high iso, too!
I'll try and do it once I have the camera..:)
Jason Lanier Thanks. I'm thinking if the a7R2 is good enough in low light, I'll ditch my a7 and a7S for it. But right now, If I could only keep one, it's the a7S.
Jason, please help. What I should get for the universal use (photo and video): Nikon D7200, D610 or A7S II/ A7 II or OM-D M5 Mark II? I need good details and low image quality lose at high ISO.
Very helpful.
Welcome to the UK and thanks for the comparison, great video.
Incredible what can it do on landscape photos
The Sony A7s is great for STILL PHOTOS with no noise at high ISO settings... but when it is used for Video (which is the main target Customer for this camera) it starts to get really noisy at around 16,000 ISO. The shots at that ISO setting and higher (all the way to 409,000 ISO) you have to use a DeNoiser Software otherwise the clips are useless.
Thanks for sharing!
Is a7r good as my spare body? I have a7ii already. What do you think guys?
what camera will be good for first timer to learn and is sony a7s be good one for me to use in landscape photography or any kind photography. i will like to get in to it i got canon eos 30d camera i want something small like sony a6000 or a7s help me out with it. have question for u will u ever come to canada like b.c or cross canada
Andrew Shirley You mentioned landscape photography and the small size factor... just an opinion take it for what you may, I think you'd be very happy with a Sony a6000 unless your Main focus is videography.
What do you recommend as the maximum ISO with low noise for low light situations for my sony a7rii for capturing portraits ??
well, there is no competition, but still the A7r did a nice work with its 36MP, it seems even better than the A7 II
Thanks for the video. Just subscribe. Would of have loved to see the a6000 in this video. That's a camera I've had my eye on because it's affordable. But not too many good ISO review videos on it.
Awesome video.
a7r or a7s???
People say that the A7S is not much applicable in daylight. But can't it be great for portraits as well? I'm talking about indoors, etc. It's still 12MP, you can't crop much. But you can bump up iso without thinking about quality issues. Then you can easily shoot at speeds around 1/100 at lower light /not from a dog arse though/. Also, A7s can be a trigger for me noto buy cheaper lenses, as it doesn't count on IBIS (it is not that beneficial at speeds exceding 1/20) but it compensates a LOT with that high iso performance.
I wanna make sure that a camera is quite capable in any conditions. A7R is pretty much the king over here but once starting at similar prices, I notice that A7S is actually selling now at around 30% higher than the R.
i like your style!
So how much ISO is too much ISO for A7ii if you want goof looking footage in low light ?
Not to nitpick but I would love to know the exact readout at specific ISO settings. Pretty easy to say that the speedometer in your car was at 100mph but in reality only doing 60 :(
I have 3 Sony cameras and there are quite a few annoying things I dislike about mirrorless and not quite ready to get rid of my Nikons. But we all use our cameras for different styles of shooting. Lots of compromise when picking a camera, choose the one that has less for YOU.
Although with that said, I see an a6000 and a Samsung NX1 in my near future :)
I know people say " I never shoot at these high ISO anyway, but if your camera could, you would ;) Same story goes with dynamic range
Can you add a side by side test with the new a7r ii and a7s ii? Thx
thanks for the test...but really why you did this test with photography stills and not with video footage shooting ?
Because the A7S is supremely UNDER RATED for stills.
Thanks
You should visit Newcastle upon Tyne its just down the road from Scotland :)
Be good to see you in New Zealand one day
Good points. I'd like to see all three on a tripod, ISO 100, shooting the same scene at the shutter speed necessary to obtain a good exposure at the same f stop. I assume the A7s will be the worst performer, the A7R the best, purely based on number of pixels. I expect no noise in any of the resulting images. The night shots I do with my Nikon D700 are pretty noiseless at ISO 200.
For what it is worth I'm getting the A7II in 2 weeks.
But then again the a7s also had a larger dynamic range so in theory the a7s will have the least detail but the most bright spot and dark spot details
faerieaeryk They are about the same. A7ii will make up in resolution what a7s delivers in in less noise. You won't tell the difference if I show you a shot at 12800 iso from 7s, 7ll and 5Dmk3. I know be cause I tried them all together with the respected lenses. But you will see that Canon can achieve focus in tough lighting and release the shutter fast enough to catch critical moments. Are there any good flashes for Sony? How comfortable will you be shooting with this rig all day?
is fx3 or a7s3 or fx6 good in low light please?????????????
I'm still at a loss on which camera, inbetween the a7s or the a7r. I'm a videographer with a low budget, so the whole lighting situation is ALWAYS a problem. Hence why I'm leaning towards the a7s. But when photographing, I'm not entirely sure as wether I should really give up the 36mp. I haven't hat to crop much in post, so is it really useless to have that many megapixels? I try to get my cropping straight right in the shot. What's the real benefit of higher megapixels? Ive shot at 18 and 20, and the quality is pretty damn good. Im concerned about downgrading that.
I'm in the same situation as you. So how did you decide?
Not yet. Sadly Im still haven't reached my target budget before making the purchase. Sony also released the fs5 that has all the specs minus the overheating and battery problem. Much better tailored to videographers
Hello Jason
I started to follow you after I watched your 10 Reasons video and found you very honest , not saying that I agree with you all the time but I love your Honesty and hope you keep it that way. I also loved your ISO challenge and I think the A7S rocks in that matter , now I see what you mean when you say it's the king of low light. anyways keep up the good work brother and hope to see you sometimes in Toronto, Canada
Cheeers
Masood
please review the sony nex 9000. apparently the auto focus functions are amazing.
I shoot in darkness on my A7ii ...... ISO 400 F.16 2 minutes and the images come out beautiful.......
How is it in ISO 6400? OR 12800?
i have sony a7r but i want to upgrade to sony a7ii . please teel me sony a7ii is worth it ??
You don't half love that grave yard great shoot there on wednesday and thursday for your workshop
great vid.. wish you did video comparisons though . peace
sony a7s amazing
How hig can I push the ISO on A7ii?
Whit no noise?
A7S is a fantastic camera for lowlight but the the difference between it's lowlight performance and the most full frame DSLRs is half to nearly one stop (Depending on the DSLR),,,,so i think the A7S is surely the best in lowlight but it's not that much of a dramatic difference...
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What is the point of shooting all those grossly underexposed shots? Can you give just one reason for starting at 100 iso and slowly going up through all those useless shots. What are they meant to show.? Please explain?
I am on the fence right now with the mirror less , mainly watching Jason UA-cam.
I have no doubt that the a6000 for example can get great shots. But is it fun or comfortable to use... I am not sure.
And here is why( after testing it a bit)
1) evf- catastrophe, no fun to look into it, you can see the screen pixels, the feel is like watching a video in bad screen, and not like the crystal clear viewfinder we are used in dslr.( this is one of the main and most important things in image capture)
2) electronic zoom, my god, I have no idea how anyone can work with this thing, and I really can't understand how pro photographer can work with it. Not usable period. ( there might be other zoom manual lenses, but haven't tested them, and even so they are not so compact)
3) ergonomics, every thing is small, and the weight is not balanced very well.
This is my main concerns.
Against it there is great image quality and weight.
So... is it ok to go with a camera that isn't fun and hard to use, but get great shots?
Don't know.Still can't decide.
odpr Simple. it's not for you. Don't buy. Go to old school gigantic DSLR.
Please do come to australia!
Guys and Author! Im thinking about buying gear for weddings and other stuff. Im thinking about 2 x d610 with 35 1.8 and 85 1.8 (both G) or 2 x A7s and 28 FE 2.0 future Fe 50 1.8 and tamron 24-70 + adapters. Of course sony is more expensive but to be honest im doing photos a long time. And simply boderd by 5d which im already have. I know a lot of people will tell me D750 for its autofocus performacne, but damn i want this to be a liitfle fun for me as well (i even thinking about XT1 by Fuji but its not full frame).
Im still confused A7s is old and have a lot of bad design ideas (like a single card feature...). But after all many people are talking its a night vision device... To be honest i compared 2 RAW files on HIGH ISO from d610 and A7s and i cant see too much difference - or i have BAD RAWE files. Please help me. :P
Wedding, portrait fashion photography is not my main source of money thats why i wan to buy something nice also for me. But after all customore is the most important and this damn focus with leae4 can be tricky...
a7ii or a7R?