Only trouble is they gave local authorities money to change the limits to 20, signs etc.. but have already told these hard up councils they will get no money to change them back, so we can all see what will happen.
It’s cost the Welsh government 43 million pounds to change all the signs to 20mph !! What a disgrace someone should be prisoned for this joke clown show, IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN MADE 20MPH IN THE FIRST PLACE
no one in wales wants this how is it still there ? were all baffled. its a Hot fuzz retired local councillors trying to turn the country into an retirement home kind of bureaucracy further destroying the local economies encouraging online sales then your up for work even earlier its ridiculous
There is no way that is true and I am not saying this to keep 20 mph speed limits in areas where they aren’t necessary. But any vehicle that I have been close to regardless of whether they were driving at 20 or 30 or 40 with the vehicle’s engine at a similar rpm the emissions of the vehicle felt the same to me. I am just stating my real world scenario and a truth I feel.
I got a speeding ticket for doing 24mph in a 20mph zone on the Finchley Road in London which used to be a 40mph road (part of the A41 dual carriageway) I was being overtaken by cyclists when I got done by the speed camera. Absolute ffffing joke.
There must be a lot of professional cyclists in your area ! On a flat road with no wind and using a road bike, an average cyclist need to produce around 300-400 watts of power to sustain 25 mph. This is well beyond the power output of an average recreational cyclist (150-200 watts for sustained effort). Professional cyclists, who can maintain 400+ watts for extended periods, are more capable of holding such speeds. I think you are talking tripe !
Even with the Bellshill "think of the children!" "What about outside schools?!" Argument. My both primary, and secondary school in Wales had at least 40mph roads surrounding, my secondary school had a 40mph directly outside the gate, leading onto dual carriageway at national speed limit, and the back lane on the other side was a national speed limit single carriageway lane.. not one single child was even injured, let alone killed by a car, in the entire history of the schools.. but now all of a sudden, 30 outside a school is dangerous? Bollocks. We literally played football in 40mph roads, moving for traffic, and road our bikes everywhere. If there is more road danger, it ain't speed causing it.
I will not go to Wales again until this stupid nonsense is scrapped. If all the coach tour companies refuse to go to Wales and it damages the tourist trade maybe common sense will prevail
No the Senedd members will rub their hands because their objective is to cancel tourism and turn Wales into a solar farm. Strange because we get no sun because of continual chem trails
I agree I live in Wales but these muppets running Wales don't care if it affects trade the roads are a shambles the drainage is terrible there is no money for maintenance but plenty to waste on stupid things like this
Millions of pounds wasted on dumb speed limits! How many schools and hospitals would have benefited from that money? Devolved governments are not a sensible option.
After the total lunacy of 2020-21 in Wales nothing surprises me. Black and yellow tape over none essential goods in the shops , clothes, toys covered in plastic. Told that I was not allowed to buy a birthday card for my granddaughter total nutters in charge and Wales voted them back in !
We do have senedd elections but ever since being devolved Labour have been the only ones in power because they keep getting re elected but I think this 20mph could mean that someone else gets voted instead in 2026 because motorists will go for who ever scraps the policy, it may even get the people who don't vote out to the polling station
Don’t forget the first minister who’s absolutely amazing blanket 20mph idea is the same person who blocked off certain isles in shops during covid. So only “essential” items were allowed to be purchased, like alcohol was an essential item...but the isle with sanitary pads, clothing and household items were all closed off. It’s ok though us girls can just hold in our periods and if I need a pram or bed for my baby I’m wasn’t allowed to buy one. A few people went shopping in their underwear and when stopped they said sorry I’m not allowed to buy clothes and I lost everything in a house fire 😂
I live in Wales and spend a lot of time walking around the local roads and villages. My observation is that most motorists are NOT sticking to 20 mph. A blanket 20mph was always going to be a stupid law, and when you get stupid laws, people will ignore them. Once you start ignoring laws then it’s the thin edge of the wedge and other laws are also in danger of being ignored.
I excluded Wales from my list of holiday destinations when the 20mph was introduced. It still is as the proposed limit reversal is actually a permission allowing a local council to raise the limit. WRONG. Reverse the limit back up to 30 mph and allow councils to carry do what they did before to consider their local areas needs.
Sticking to 20 mph has one major and dangerous effect on drivers - it makes them concentrate more on their speedometers than on the road ahead. How can that be sensible?
I also avoided going on holiday to Wales because of the stupid Labour 20mph limit - so Welsh business lost my custom. So so stupid and sadly England will now be getting their share of anti-car policies.
If someone wants to look into conditions affecting the environment look at the millions of drivers now unnecessarily having their lights on in good daytime visibility resulting in more bulb replacements and more bulb manufacturing.
To those outside Wales dont think that it was just 30 Mph roads reduced to 20 Mph, I know of a 40mph reduced to 20 mph and it is painful using it. They have also turned some dual carriageways into singles with cyclists given the closed lanes.
@@pf844 Leaving Llandudno towards Colwyn Bay reduced from 40 mph to 20 mph and sections of the coast road east of Prestatyn converted from dual carriageways into single lanes. There are others too.
@@pf844 No, I`m talking about the main road leaving Llandudno which passes Bodafon Fields and climbs the base of the Little Orme. About a mile of it which used to be 40 mph was suddenly reduced to 20 mph.
ULEZ can work in London because the 18% of constituents who vote for Khan don't drive in and out of London everyday. In Manchester a much higher percentage leave and return to the city every day.
I live close to the Welsh border and used to regularly visit the Brecon Beacons - no longer. I actively avoid Wales now. They can do without the money I would have spent.
@@pf844 In my experience, the dread of having missed a speed camera, plus the frustration of all the absurd speed limits, ruins any visit to Wales, so I'm not missing anything. There's plenty to see and do on the English side of the border.
These 20 limits are stupidly dangerous you spend more time looking at the speedo. Other week in Scotland in 20 zones my bike was in first gear making more noise using more fuel than it would have done going at 30 in 4th
An MOT makes your car fit to drive on public roads and meets emission standards, Khans ULEZ and congestion charging is nothing more than a cash grab to pay off the Billions TFL has wasted leaving an almighty black hole in their finances. Has the air quality improoved on the Tube Stations yet? No it hasnt. Where is this money going?
With the recently published insurance figures revealing that motor vehicle crashes in Wales have reduced significantly since the start of the 20 list, I doubt whether local authorise are actually going to vote to increase deaths and serious injuries by raising some limits back to 30.
20mph speed limits increase the time it takes a petrol engine to warm up, it will also run longer on the choke increasing fuel consumption, this increases pollution 5 fold and will damage the catalytic converter quicker, a diesel is pretty efficient when it has warmed up and again this 20mph non-sense increases pollution and it will block the Diesel particulate filter faster.
NOT FORGETTING "SMART" motorways: - National Highways says radar detects 89% of stopped vehicles - but that means one in 10 is not spotted. At least 79 people have been killed on smart motorways since they were introduced in 2010. In the past five years, seven coroners have called for them to be made safer
The power a cyclist needs to generate to maintain a speed of 25 mph depends on factors such as weight, aerodynamics, and road conditions. • On a flat road with no wind and using a road bike, an average cyclist needs to produce around 300-400 watts of power to sustain 25 mph. • This is well beyond the power output of an average recreational cyclist (150-200 watts for sustained effort). • Professional cyclists, who can maintain 400+ watts for extended periods, are more capable of holding such speeds.
Its an indefensible absurdity. You have to drive in 3rd gear so you are using the same revs as 30 in 4th but your transit times in these areas ar 50% more. So they have INCREASED the emissions in these areas by 50%. You brake going into them and accelerate going out so brake dust at one end and emissions at the other are substantially increased. The time wasted every day must run into many hundreds of thousands of minutes and its causing snarl ups in the rush hours because its effectively increased the traffic. Asinine doesn't come close.
@@abergreg No, it’s not! There is no evidence to support a correlation between lower gearing and higher emissions. In fact, lower gearing often reduces engine load, which can lead to more efficient combustion in many situations. Studies on vehicle emissions, such as those conducted by automotive engineering groups, show that emissions are influenced primarily by factors like engine design, fuel type, and driving conditions-not gearing alone. For instance, research from the European Environment Agency highlights that smoother driving with optimised gear use can reduce emissions, regardless of whether the gearing is high or low. High emissions are more commonly associated with aggressive acceleration, poor maintenance, or outdated engine technology, rather than the specific gear ratio being used.
@@pf844 Nothing you have said makes an iota of sense. You are clueless and wasting my time. At 20 mph in third a car puts out the same emissions as a car doing 30 in fourth (approx 1300 revs) BUT the TRANSIT time is increased by 50%, YOU'RE JUST THICK.
in wales when you are driving along the speed limit drops to 20 mph in a built up area ...just in England when you turn into a built up area its 20 mph ...were i live its 20 mph outside
So we have a commentator who doesn’t live in wales and wants to ride his bike at speed ! Why doesn’t he ride it past his neighbours, rev it up, and see how they feel
@pf844 electric oh my dear, no. I couldn't drive a car with a battery made of lithium. The mining of lithium destroys lives of the miners and the area in which it is mined. I hope you don't drive an electric car.
@@pf844 my insurance has gone up above inflation despite shopping around and obv if the NHS had saved £20m there'd be some tangible, visible evidence. Personally I'd like to see £100 fine for crossing the road whilst using a phone because I witness this behaviour most days.
@@TomBartram-b1cjust imagine how much it would have gone up if the limit hadn’t been in place ! Insurance is risk based ! the tangible evidence is the reduction in the number of road accident related injuries!
@pf844 1, like saying this diet's obviously working even though I've actually put on weight because just imagine ..Mate, insurance premium have SKYROCKETED compared to the pre-speed cam era. 2, nhs is £20+m better off and the visible evidence is ... my opinion. Again, the NHS is SCREWED compared to the pre-camera era.
Wales and other parts of the UK have some of the best driving roads in the world! Most of them are across the hills and valleys where nobody lives and there are seldom any vehicles on them! Nowhere in that type of roads should there be any speed restrictions! In Scotland just the other day the Police announced they had over 10,000 speeding fines on the A9 between Inverness and Dumblane.Not one of these fines were issued due to an accident, purely as a cash grab!! It has approx. 100miles of dual carriageway, & by-passes all the towns and villages so it is only those looking to get to their destination quickly that it serves! (if it was in Germany it would have no speed limits)! There are sections of it where very high speeds are well within the roads capability due to the wide open aspect and visibility. when you are the only vehicle for miles and the conditions are perfect then why not travel at 100+ mph if the vehicle is built to do so!
I'm glad you don't want to ride here any longer. Wales is not a race track. 1/3 less accidents since implementation of the 20 mph limit. Steve Berry, go race around Manchester mate.
It is very silly rule, if I push car it will make 20mile, tha car can drive 160mile ,it doesn't even burn the fuel properly, in city main roads has 20mile, car is more polluting let people drive 50mile and leave city quickly. How can you make 20mile speed limit think again
and if we really what to save planet just car share when i wait for a bus ( so i,m a Eco warrior ) and the cars that pass me are normally 90% one person per car
With a Labour Government get used to stupid and pointless laws
Only trouble is they gave local authorities money to change the limits to 20, signs etc.. but have already told these hard up councils they will get no money to change them back, so we can all see what will happen.
They will start charging to drive along certain roads. To save the environment? So you will be OK to pollute if you pay. It's a tax scam
25yrs of Labour in the principality,it’s been a disaster,
And yet they still keep getting voted in ! Can’t be much of a disaster
It’s cost the Welsh government 43 million pounds to change all the signs to 20mph !! What a disgrace someone should be prisoned for this joke clown show, IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN MADE 20MPH IN THE FIRST PLACE
Didnt cost the government a thing.
It cost us, the taxpayers who never asked for this. They are burning money, just like last time!
20 mph stops the catalytic converter working properly which defeats the object of saving the planet as they say
no one in wales wants this how is it still there ? were all baffled. its a Hot fuzz retired local councillors trying to turn the country into an retirement home kind of bureaucracy further destroying the local economies encouraging online sales then your up for work even earlier its ridiculous
The only vehicles that are happy driving at 20mph are electric ones ........ it was a push to get us out of internal combustion powered transport.
@@petermach8635 Drivers will never catch on without penal taxes
You have to drive in 3rd instead of 4th so the engine is turning at the same rpm.
There is no way that is true and I am not saying this to keep 20 mph speed limits in areas where they aren’t necessary. But any vehicle that I have been close to regardless of whether they were driving at 20 or 30 or 40 with the vehicle’s engine at a similar rpm the emissions of the vehicle felt the same to me. I am just stating my real world scenario and a truth I feel.
I got a speeding ticket for doing 24mph in a 20mph zone on the Finchley Road in London which used to be a 40mph road (part of the A41 dual carriageway) I was being overtaken by cyclists when I got done by the speed camera. Absolute ffffing joke.
There must be a lot of professional cyclists in your area ! On a flat road with no wind and using a road bike, an average cyclist need to produce around 300-400 watts of power to sustain 25 mph. This is well beyond the power output of an average recreational cyclist (150-200 watts for sustained effort). Professional cyclists, who can maintain 400+ watts for extended periods, are more capable of holding such speeds.
I think you are talking tripe !
20mph speed limit just doesn't work.
Even with the Bellshill "think of the children!" "What about outside schools?!" Argument. My both primary, and secondary school in Wales had at least 40mph roads surrounding, my secondary school had a 40mph directly outside the gate, leading onto dual carriageway at national speed limit, and the back lane on the other side was a national speed limit single carriageway lane.. not one single child was even injured, let alone killed by a car, in the entire history of the schools.. but now all of a sudden, 30 outside a school is dangerous? Bollocks. We literally played football in 40mph roads, moving for traffic, and road our bikes everywhere. If there is more road danger, it ain't speed causing it.
I will not go to Wales again until this stupid nonsense is scrapped. If all the coach tour companies refuse to go to Wales and it damages the tourist trade maybe common sense will prevail
No the Senedd members will rub their hands because their objective is to cancel tourism and turn Wales into a solar farm. Strange because we get no sun because of continual chem trails
I agree I live in Wales but these muppets running Wales don't care if it affects trade the roads are a shambles the drainage is terrible there is no money for maintenance but plenty to waste on stupid things like this
Millions of pounds wasted on dumb speed limits! How many schools and hospitals would have benefited from that money?
Devolved governments are not a sensible option.
After the total lunacy of 2020-21 in Wales nothing surprises me. Black and yellow tape over none essential goods in the shops , clothes, toys covered in plastic. Told that I was not allowed to buy a birthday card for my granddaughter total nutters in charge and Wales voted them back in !
I heard that MORE 20 mph signs have been put up - including MAIN ROADS & UP HILLS!!
Yes that's true where I live.
500000 == nearly 20 % of the population in protest signatures.,,,, hm. also, modern cars are geared / ratioed to 30mph, not 20
It is insane because to maintain 20mph you have to change gear and use more fuel and as the engine is not working smoothly, more dangerous gases.
Massive waste of money changing all the signs - but what are devolved governments for other than wasting money?
My car has to be driven in a lower gear at 20 mph .that means the revs are higher, so more fuel burned mwans more emisions
The sad thing is that the people of Wales voted to keep these idiots in power.
Obviously not idiots as they are in power
And Welsh voters just voted to keep it!
It’s called democracy
If Wales is "devolved", why don't they have a SEPARATE ELECTION..?
They do ! They have an election for the assembly !
We do have senedd elections but ever since being devolved Labour have been the only ones in power because they keep getting re elected but I think this 20mph could mean that someone else gets voted instead in 2026 because motorists will go for who ever scraps the policy, it may even get the people who don't vote out to the polling station
Don’t forget the first minister who’s absolutely amazing blanket 20mph idea is the same person who blocked off certain isles in shops during covid. So only “essential” items were allowed to be purchased, like alcohol was an essential item...but the isle with sanitary pads, clothing and household items were all closed off. It’s ok though us girls can just hold in our periods and if I need a pram or bed for my baby I’m wasn’t allowed to buy one. A few people went shopping in their underwear and when stopped they said sorry I’m not allowed to buy clothes and I lost everything in a house fire 😂
I live in Wales and spend a lot of time walking around the local roads and villages. My observation is that most motorists are NOT sticking to 20 mph. A blanket 20mph was always going to be a stupid law, and when you get stupid laws, people will ignore them. Once you start ignoring laws then it’s the thin edge of the wedge and other laws are also in danger of being ignored.
? How many people do you think stuck to the previous limits ?
Hello from the Welsh American Channel. We Welsh Americans are very proud of our heritage and what is happening in Wales. Cymru am byth!
Would you expect anything other from a Labour GOVERNMENT
I excluded Wales from my list of holiday destinations when the 20mph was introduced. It still is as the proposed limit reversal is actually a permission allowing a local council to raise the limit. WRONG. Reverse the limit back up to 30 mph and allow councils to carry do what they did before to consider their local areas needs.
when you drive from Chester to Wrexham the roads normally speeds until you enter a built Area and if you dont believe go and see
absolutely nailed it, meddling just cos they can
Sticking to 20 mph has one major and dangerous effect on drivers - it makes them concentrate more on their speedometers than on the road ahead.
How can that be sensible?
What about a 30mph or 50 or 60 limit, are you saying once you get above 20 you don’t concentrate on your speed ?
Stupid argument!
I also avoided going on holiday to Wales because of the stupid Labour 20mph limit - so Welsh business lost my custom. So so stupid and sadly England will now be getting their share of anti-car policies.
🤣 like they miss you !
If someone wants to look into conditions affecting the environment look at the millions of drivers now unnecessarily having their lights on in good daytime visibility resulting in more bulb replacements and more bulb manufacturing.
Politicians are so thick it is (almost unbelievable) any chance of getting one on your show to answer easy questions, (name age ect)
Part of the reason behind the 20mph was to encourage use of the motorway. That was to get people used to it ready for tolls.
The m4 is slowly becoming 50mph 🤦
@scottcameron-baker6800 Yes, it's getting more congested too.
@swanseamale47 agreed. Let hope in 2026 we kick Labour out 🤞
As ridiculous as the Welsh labor party...
It's not the devolved government that's the problem, its who's running it that's the issue here in Wales and in Scotland too.
So how much did it cost to implement it and how much is it going to cost to reverse it, I frequently travel into North Wales.
34 million was mentioned !
Drakeford got very rich from that deal.
I have not been to Wales since they implemented the 20mph limit.
The guy who implemented the 20mph limits, does not even drive.
Neither, currently does his jailed son and neither his deceased wife of course !
I reckon the Welsh government is going to secretly embrace Metric road speeds. 30 kph is about 23 Mph, so they still get their 20mph.
To those outside Wales dont think that it was just 30 Mph roads reduced to 20 Mph, I know of a 40mph reduced to 20 mph and it is painful using it. They have also turned some dual carriageways into singles with cyclists given the closed lanes.
Which road is that
@@pf844 Leaving Llandudno towards Colwyn Bay reduced from 40 mph to 20 mph and sections of the coast road east of Prestatyn converted from dual carriageways into single lanes. There are others too.
@@reggiesmith3866 is that Glan-y-Mor Road
@@pf844 No, I`m talking about the main road leaving Llandudno which passes Bodafon Fields and climbs the base of the Little Orme. About a mile of it which used to be 40 mph was suddenly reduced to 20 mph.
@@reggiesmith3866ah the A547 ! You might have been breaking the speed limit previously as it was originally 30 for that stretch !
ULEZ can work in London because the 18% of constituents who vote for Khan don't drive in and out of London everyday.
In Manchester a much higher percentage leave and return to the city every day.
I live close to the Welsh border and used to regularly visit the Brecon Beacons - no longer. I actively avoid Wales now. They can do without the money I would have spent.
Yeah that would have made a great difference 🤣
@pf844 I didn't claim that it did. But I bet I'm not alone, and it would make a difference.
@@andrewhotston983doubt it ! If people want to do something they will still do it regardless of the constraints
@@andrewhotston983what I am saying is that you are only punishing yourself! Life is too short !
@@pf844 In my experience, the dread of having missed a speed camera, plus the frustration of all the absurd speed limits, ruins any visit to Wales, so I'm not missing anything. There's plenty to see and do on the English side of the border.
These 20 limits are stupidly dangerous you spend more time looking at the speedo. Other week in Scotland in 20 zones my bike was in first gear making more noise using more fuel than it would have done going at 30 in 4th
Locals don't care about the 20mph. Its the tourists who are slowing everyone up.
Don't kid yourself. You're clearly not local to make that remark.
how does driving at 20mph help the environment?, you have to drop gear so the engine revs increase!
An MOT makes your car fit to drive on public roads and meets emission standards, Khans ULEZ and congestion charging is nothing more than a cash grab to pay off the Billions TFL has wasted leaving an almighty black hole in their finances. Has the air quality improoved on the Tube Stations yet? No it hasnt. Where is this money going?
Maybe outside a school or hospital, but a blanket 20mph ban is just madness
Seems to me they have just thought of another way to tax the poor...
No!!! You must pay extra for the school run!!!
With the recently published insurance figures revealing that motor vehicle crashes in Wales have reduced significantly since the start of the 20 list, I doubt whether local authorise are actually going to vote to increase deaths and serious injuries by raising some limits back to 30.
20mph speed limits increase the time it takes a petrol engine to warm up, it will also run longer on the choke increasing fuel consumption, this increases pollution 5 fold and will damage the catalytic converter quicker,
a diesel is pretty efficient when it has warmed up and again this 20mph non-sense increases pollution and it will block the Diesel particulate filter faster.
I've spent the last few days in the Bath area; all the roads round here seem to have 20mph limits too.
Virtually everyone in Wales drives because the transport is pathetic.
When i cross the road i use me frikken EYES. I dont expect cars to creep along in 2nd gear on my behalf!
NOT FORGETTING "SMART" motorways: -
National Highways says radar detects 89% of stopped vehicles - but that means one in 10 is not spotted. At least 79 people have been killed on smart motorways since they were introduced in 2010. In the past five years, seven coroners have called for them to be made safer
I will no longer ride to Wales since the 20mph fiasco.
I bet they are glad
@@pf844 Don't you have anything to say which might demonstrate intelligence above amoeba level??
@@michaeltelemachus5112take your advice and stay out of Wales ! We don’t want you
Iv'e just spent two weeks holydaying in Wales. I didn't find any problems.
Apparently our new Mayors make great useful idiots.
Britain needs a strong dose of Libertarianism
The power a cyclist needs to generate to maintain a speed of 25 mph depends on factors such as weight, aerodynamics, and road conditions.
• On a flat road with no wind and using a road bike, an average cyclist needs to produce around 300-400 watts of power to sustain 25 mph.
• This is well beyond the power output of an average recreational cyclist (150-200 watts for sustained effort).
• Professional cyclists, who can maintain 400+ watts for extended periods, are more capable of holding such speeds.
20 is fine in the middle of small villages and past schools….
I am currently on holiday in wales the limit is ridiculous
Scotland is littered with these 20mph zones too.
Its an indefensible absurdity. You have to drive in 3rd gear so you are using the same revs as 30 in 4th but your transit times in these areas ar 50% more. So they have INCREASED the emissions in these areas by 50%. You brake going into them and accelerate going out so brake dust at one end and emissions at the other are substantially increased. The time wasted every day must run into many hundreds of thousands of minutes and its causing snarl ups in the rush hours because its effectively increased the traffic. Asinine doesn't come close.
Wheres your proof on emissions? I have read research from both sides and neither is conclusive
@@pf844 Its called simple arithmetic.
@@abergreg No, it’s not! There is no evidence to support a correlation between lower gearing and higher emissions. In fact, lower gearing often reduces engine load, which can lead to more efficient combustion in many situations. Studies on vehicle emissions, such as those conducted by automotive engineering groups, show that emissions are influenced primarily by factors like engine design, fuel type, and driving conditions-not gearing alone. For instance, research from the European Environment Agency highlights that smoother driving with optimised gear use can reduce emissions, regardless of whether the gearing is high or low. High emissions are more commonly associated with aggressive acceleration, poor maintenance, or outdated engine technology, rather than the specific gear ratio being used.
@@pf844 Nothing you have said makes an iota of sense. You are clueless and wasting my time. At 20 mph in third a car puts out the same emissions as a car doing 30 in fourth (approx 1300 revs) BUT the TRANSIT time is increased by 50%, YOU'RE JUST THICK.
I thought it was only to replace the 30 mph in towns ?
Just got done for doing 25 in a 20 zone , bloody furious
Why? Just the same as doing 35 in a 30 zone !
20mph still in place in Scottish Borders.
We are the Carbon they wish to remove.
wish they would do the same with the ,m4 where the speed limit in lots of places is 50 , on motorways that are built to do a min of 70mph on
Think of the cost of making and installing these cameras. The materials and resources used. , !
in wales when you are driving along the speed limit drops to 20 mph in a built up area ...just in England when you turn into a built up area its 20 mph ...were i live its 20 mph outside
Just jealousy from people who dont have cars,
Its not stupid and pointless if you're a pedestrian.
So we have a commentator who doesn’t live in wales and wants to ride his bike at speed ! Why doesn’t he ride it past his neighbours, rev it up, and see how they feel
We live with 20mph in Wales, my automatic car hates that speed
Get an electric! Cheaper and no gears
@pf844 electric oh my dear, no. I couldn't drive a car with a battery made of lithium. The mining of lithium destroys lives of the miners and the area in which it is mined. I hope you don't drive an electric car.
@@janwhite6038driving at 30+ kills more pedestrians than at 20 !
You are silly @@pf844
@@janwhite6038but factual
23% fewer insurance claims. 9 fewer deaths. 240 fewer injuries. Emergency saving of £20,000,000+ in less than a year.
20 is plenty.
That's bs or insurance would be cheaper and there'd be reduced nhs waiting times.
@@TomBartram-b1c It is cheaper because of the limit and please explain how cancer waiting lists and such like are related
@@pf844 my insurance has gone up above inflation despite shopping around and obv if the NHS had saved £20m there'd be some tangible, visible evidence. Personally I'd like to see £100 fine for crossing the road whilst using a phone because I witness this behaviour most days.
@@TomBartram-b1cjust imagine how much it would have gone up if the limit hadn’t been in place ! Insurance is risk based ! the tangible evidence is the reduction in the number of road accident related injuries!
@pf844 1, like saying this diet's obviously working even though I've actually put on weight because just imagine ..Mate, insurance premium have SKYROCKETED compared to the pre-speed cam era.
2, nhs is £20+m better off and the visible evidence is ... my opinion. Again, the NHS is SCREWED compared to the pre-camera era.
Wales and other parts of the UK have some of the best driving roads in the world! Most of them are across the hills and valleys where nobody lives and there are seldom any vehicles on them! Nowhere in that type of roads should there be any speed restrictions! In Scotland just the other day the Police announced they had over 10,000 speeding fines on the A9 between Inverness and Dumblane.Not one of these fines were issued due to an accident, purely as a cash grab!! It has approx. 100miles of dual carriageway, & by-passes all the towns and villages so it is only those looking to get to their destination quickly that it serves! (if it was in Germany it would have no speed limits)! There are sections of it where very high speeds are well within the roads capability due to the wide open aspect and visibility. when you are the only vehicle for miles and the conditions are perfect then why not travel at 100+ mph if the vehicle is built to do so!
I'm glad you don't want to ride here any longer. Wales is not a race track.
1/3 less accidents since implementation of the 20 mph limit.
Steve Berry, go race around Manchester mate.
Yet all the muppets voted Labour 😅😅😅😅😅
It is very silly rule, if I push car it will make 20mile, tha car can drive 160mile ,it doesn't even burn the fuel properly, in city main roads has 20mile, car is more polluting let people drive 50mile and leave city quickly. How can you make 20mile speed limit think again
and if we really what to save planet just car share when i wait for a bus ( so i,m a Eco warrior ) and the cars that pass me are normally 90% one person per car
Sorry Steve. Get off your motorbike and borrow a push bike, then do " considerably more than 20mph", I might take you seriously.
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Driving aound in third gear is hardly eco-friendly. Yes a half mile radius around any school should be 20mph.
Let’s trial a 40 mph limit past your house eh let’s see the squawking then 🤣
Anything a labour govt does will fail..
Just ask NZ