@@kinsmart7294 Well yea I can see it move, but I'm curious how it functions during normal use on a -40 degree day. Does it only open partially? Or does it open and close over and over and over etc.
Sawdust In the gearbox used to be a common bodge, I think I just made the synchromesh work better in a worn gearbox, but only long enough to sell it lol
Pushing a pair of nylon tights in was supposed to be another bodge along these lines. They may have worked well enough to quieten it down so it could be sold.
The whine you are referring to comes from the pinion depth as related to the ring gear. It happens on vehicles that have a damaged crush collar or a myriad of other problems in the diff assembly. This is only a basic explanation, as many other factors can also cause the typical whine on decel vs accel . Using bad ground up gears won't get you the result your looking for. Still great video guys.
An old trick usually for automatic transmissions back in the 60's beforw selling the car. Unsuspecting buyers falls for the smooth running tranny for a few days before it breaks down
Thankfully it's pretty easy to drain the oil with sawdust inside and prove that it was a deliberate attempt to screw over the new owner in front of the court.
I test drivetrain components for a living, I can tell you for a fact that a diff will chew up anything and everything including itself when given enough torque.
@@forrestcarroll9350 true. My pinion bearing went and one of the bearings came out along with part of the retainer... Sounded like a shotgun went off. No evidence of the pieces when I got home.ground up. When rebuilding, I tried to use denim doubled over a few times to jam the gears while tightening the pinion nut... Yeah.. It grounded that up in a hurry.
Admittedly I took lead foil and ran it through a coffee grinder and packed the differential of my own ural motorcycle combined with grease to quiet it down for a few hundred kilometers to get where I needed. It worked like magic. I’ve heard of transmissions and differentials packed with sawdust. I did not know the lead trick was common. I thought I was clever at the time.
Yeah lets put saw dust or powdered lead in a transmission. U do realize a manual is a gearbox? Go head n dump stupid shit in a automatic n see what happens.
Same here, but I also wanted them to pop the diff out so we could see if the lead had started to coat the gears, or if it had just mulched down to thicken the oil?
I can confirm that the banana and it's peel worked in my case. In 1970 I worked for a small construction company (3 workers plus owner). We had an early 60s Chevy pickup with a bad whine. The boss had me drain the rear end and add the peel of a one banana. Then mash up banana with a fork in the drained oil and use it to refill the diff. He had me use the truck for 2 days it went completely quiet. Then he sold it. He told me this would only work for a couple hundred miles. He said after that the oil/banana mix would turn into something that looked like black Jell-O sticking to the inside rear end housing and rear end was trashed.
I was really hoping to see the diff. taken apart to see where the lead ended up.... too bad there was no transparant cover; maybe could have seen what happened right after start up. Great video still.
saw dust is much safer then powdered lead which could cause lead poisoning if it leaked out and got into a person no one's ever gotten saw dust poisoning🤣
The secret recipe is to add finely ground hot paprika, the Hungarian style. Also some Csabai sausages, roughly cut to pieces small enough just to fit through the hole. I would say about 0,7kg of paprika powder and 0,5 kg of Csabai sausages for that Lada differential. Also, no oil, but rather lard. About 1,3 kg should do the trick.
Hi Erik, I'll be in Hungary next week for a family trip in the region. I haven't been there since 1990 when the road was full of Trabants! How is driving there these days? Are the cops tricky and nasty or can you go as fast as you find safe like in Poland and Germany?
@@danbergthold3481 I'm Hungarian. No more Trabants, sadly. Cops and cameras are well documented on Waze, with traffic coming from the other way alerting you if they saw any. Still, driving fast is discouraged by the road quality, which is absolutely dogshit. Do not rely on signage to navigate, they're bad.
@@davidtoth8975 Koszonom, David! (Sorry, I don't now how to get all those cool accents in there!). This is very helpful information. I know that much has changed since I was there and this is much appreciated intel. Back when I was there, almost nobody even had a telephone! I can't wait to get back the fabulous Hungarian food and wine!
When I was very young, back in the early '60s', we could not afford major repairs to our cars. I remember old timers saying that they added 'oatmeal' to a rear end to quiet it down. And sometimes to a standard transmission to make it shift smoother. thanks for your many fasinating videos.
CV joint grease as top up instead of the oil does work with the beginnings of the whine. Did that and after 100 000 km the noise was still gone from the gearbox.
That’s what I was literally just thinking‘cause the sawdust only job is to thicken up the oil so I was thinking about packing it with like bearing grease or something like that
I had a noisy 4.11 gearset in a Ford 9 inch and heard about the banana peel trick. So, I ground up a banana peel and stuffed it into the fill hole. After about 50 miles, the whine was gone! Now, I forget about doing this as years passed and destroyed it at the track. When I dropped the 3rd member, the smell was HORRIBLE as I was draining liquified rotten banana juice.
When they showed the undercarriage I was 100% expecting it to explode on the street. I was riding with one of my uncle's on the way to the scrap yard with about a 5000~ pound load of scrap metal, and literally a few hundred yards from the weighing scales just inside the yard. The differential exploded going around a bend just before the straight away to the yard. Then not even a month of being repaired, the transmission completely gave out at. You guessed it, the scrap yard. Where a big semi rig pulled him out of the way on the side of the road
Yo should try that Xado stuff. Used one in my transmission when it was whining and it did absolutely nothing. Would be interesting to see an in depth, unbiased review of their products.
I used xado in a 05 Peugeot 206 1.4hdi which was very noisy engine, spent 50 quid in xado and added it, quieter by 75%. Ran it for 2 yrs with 2vetxra treatments. I will use it again
The lead thing I've head about, but most guys called it 'white lead' which was actually lead oxide. It would help in lubricity, and it was a common racer's trick to get some additional performance over the pack of competition.
Great episode Thank you for providing the high quality content like always. Vlad and his cohorts are top notch especially in these contested times. Fantastic job as always 👍👍👍👍👍
You need to add a few bananas to the sawdust/gear oil mix. A bit of grease from the grease gun is a must. This works fairly well in getting things quiet.
Paraffin is a great use for rear ends as there is nothing to stop up like a engine from the 70s from use of Castrol oil that had paraffin in it mabe even transmissions
in Indonesia its common to use thicker oil such as train oil or trsnsformer oil(electrical trafo)....banana....saw dust or even fill diff with chasis greas
Love you guys. THe crazy shit is excellent. Hope all goes well with current, dramas, send the best to all the crew from DOWN UNDER. Wish WE could have so much fun!! Thumbs up.
Speaking of powdered lead, you should try putting lead balls like from a shotgun shell into a hot cylinder. I’ve heard of an old ford straight 6 truck engine being used as a generator that had low compression that the owner put some product into the cylinders thru the plug holes and it was basically just small lead balls that you’d add after running the engine and then run it more
Use a product called Engine RESTORE. It's an oil additive that rebuilds full factory compression in the cylinder walls and whole combustion chamber. Project Farm and many other channels have reviews on it and it really works without harming the engine at all. And plus it's also a SUPER Lubricant. Works with all oils but I prefer to run it with race oil like royal purple or Amsoil. Just pour it in and you'll start seeing results at around 200 miles or so. It's been proven with before and after compression tests
I had a suuuuper rusty 300k mile truck with a terribly leaky power steering rack. It wouldn't hold fluid at all (it leaked out of the racks input shaft) I drove it around empty most of the time and muscled the wheel so I didn't have oil leaking all over my driveway... but before I traded it in (for scrap value, I just wanted to transfer the plates) I tried putting sawdust in the fluid to see if it would clog the leak. I put a few quarts of sawdust fluid in (3 tsp per qt of fine sawdust, and after it leaked enough out the leak slowed down dramatically! It went from emptying the res in 10 miles, to lasting a week! 😂
I had a friend who was a mechanic and we had a bad CV joint and did not want to spend money on the car so he put cow shit inside the CV joint to stop it groning when going around a corner it was a vauxhall cavalier or Opel Vectra brilliant video guys
I remember an episode of The Andy Griffith Show where Barney Fife bought a worn out car from a little old lady who "only drove it to church on Sundays." One trick was to put sawdust in the rear end to quiet the noise for a few days, just long enough to sell it.
I worked in a gas station in 1964 and I saw the mechanic empty out a rear end that had saw shavings in the rear end but it wasn't saw dust like you put in... Use shavings not dust. Old used car trick in the South East of the USA.
God that was funny. That would have to be the worst sounding AND looking diff I think I've ever seen being put INTO a car. That noise. OMG there really was some carnage going on in that diff.
I think the banana thing that other people suggested is true. Heard it before from several different mechanics. They said that the whole banana, green ones, are the best thing for it. For power steering is the corn flour that makes it smooth
This was a trick that was used to cover diff problems on Fiat cars which were the same platform with Lada. They use to add sawdust to diff oil to keep it silent long enough until the car was sold.
I worked at a gas station in the 70's and put a zirk fitting on axle tube of a rear end and pumped it full of grease till it was leaking from the axle seals on each side. It was quiet for a while then bulged the cover and was squirting out a crack or split in the case. end of a 1960's ford falcon. Brakes didn't work very good and grease was all over under the car.
The problem is with this diff is not a worn gearset as much as a bad small/rear pinion bearing. Under deceleration the pinion gear is drawn into the crown gear causing terrible noise. It would be better to test this with a diff with still in-tact bearings, but a noisy/worn ring and pinion. It would likely help with that (albeit temporarily) as it will thicken the oil. The typical gear wine at 45mph / 80km/h type, rather than one like this.
I remember this, this use to be a thing back in the 70’s and up to the 90’s where old car dealers put saw dust into the diff to make it sound good when it had problems to sell the cars faster. Because they are used and old cars they couldn’t get money back. I had this happen to me with a 90 Caprice. Bought it 2015 and after a while it died.
The dust should not be a dust...it should be something bit thicker... Have look for it in the pet shops. Than it will work... I know the story since my childhood and it real works.
having known people who have tried it, usually when the diff bearings are worn, they say it works BUT the diff doesnt usually live long. a couple of hundred miles at best. usually done to make it quiet and sell the car.
Nah, as an American, I love what you guys at Garage54 do. You have the same internal questions I have in MY head. But you guys have the b@!!$ to actually do it. I love this channel, and Vlad and Surgae and the rest of the "Garage54 Gang" as I like to say
On my 99 Suburban, the rear end has been howling for the last 7 years, not terrible but its there between 45 and 55mph, and higher or lower speed its silent, I have another rear end for it, just don't see the point in swapping it out yet. I just fill the rear diff with some really thick oil and change it out every year, been doing that for the last 7 years,. and its still going and hasn't gotten any worse lol.
I was told years ago ..when my trucks rear axle seals started leaking on a long roadtrip to Alaska from BC Canada to put sawdust or banana peels in it to help slow the leak so we could make it home!! And we made it!!
I think a coarser saw dust would work for a little while. Also, it would be interesting to see how long a hand full of sand would take to destroy the diff.
Ya know cooking oil does really quieten a knocking crank. Just add it to the existing oil. Thing is, once the cooking oil has 'fixed' the knock, it will come back if you 'Give It The Beans'...
As always your video is interesting and entertaining, I have not watched one that I didn't enjoy. Compliments to you, your crew, video graphers and BMI for a job well done.
Giday guys, Brad from Australia. Historically here down under in Australia we stuff the diff with banana peels. I'd like to see you guys try that in your diff. Cheers!
The trick is to fill up a worn tranny/diff with shreds of banana skins. The ling fibres are quite tough, and can fill out tolerances for a little while.
Very efficient way to sicken, kill, or injure anyone that dares to tailgate you or stand around the vehicle after a drive. Mercury vapor is terrifyingly deadly. Fields metal might be a better bet, but damn would that be expensive!
Drain the differential. I would like to see if the lead shot was pulverized or not. One reason for poor results is, because those tricks art designed to take up clearances in loose bearings. When you assembled the differential, you probably took the excess play out of the bearings, so, the saw dust nor the lead shot had any clearance to take up. Loose bearings can cause whine, which could be corrected by taking play out of the bearings. In this case, the whine is caused by wear in the gears (ring and pinion), and these solutions can't do anything to correct it.
Holy smokes, that thing was absolutely annihilated, lol. Besides the ring and pinion missing chunks, I have to believe that the bearings are all pretty much hammered poo at this point as well. I don't think anything short of the hand of God would make that thing quiet again. Well, maybe the Doctor's sonic screwdriver could too, but even that would have a hard time. Hahahaha.... But whatever, it was a fun watch anyway. As it always is from this crew.
I like it that they can take cars out on to the road in various states of repair and registration in a relaxed state, rather than be paranoid about giving thug cops an excuse to send a large fine and loss of demerit points your way, as Australian drivers are accustomed to.
Years ago I had similar problems with with a gear box so I replaced the oil with a thicker oil {EP140} major problem !!! I couldn't change gears when the oil was cold because the oil was like liquid grease instead of oil . Maybe you should have used thicker oil {EP 140 } or thicker . Cheers from Down Under in Australia
Kind of wanted to see what the gears and sludge looked like from the lead. Oh well. I wonder if it were filled with mercury if that woukd do it. Not a "trick of the trade" thing but just to see if it woukd.
@@ralphm4132 I understand that. Powdered lead would be bad too but they were willing to do it. As long as they take precautions it would be cool to see in the clear cover.
They used to do this in dishonest car lots when you bought cars as is, a few miles down the road the transmission fell apart when they first sounded great. The effects will last only a short while nothing long term.
Use strips of cork that's how it was done in the 20s and thirtys. The cork strips could be fed through the fill hole until the noise stopped then you give a test drive to the customer then sell him the car and get the heck out of town before the rear end blew up. LOL
Sawdust is not a Life hack it's a seedy dirty car dealer Hack my brother bought a 69 Buick skylark of which the car dealer used this dirty trick to sale it. They pack it slam full of sawdust then add the Diff Grease after sealing it
You should make a Clear Thermostat Housing, I'm curious to see how often it opens and closes, to maintain temp on a cold day.
YES! Ive always wanted to see this!
Just get an thermostat and put it on boiling water.
@@kinsmart7294 Well yea I can see it move, but I'm curious how it functions during normal use on a -40 degree day. Does it only open partially? Or does it open and close over and over and over etc.
Amazing!
thermostat? whats that? lol jk
My dad used to tell me about banana peels being used. He was a mechanic for 57 years
I heard the same
Wow really. Lol i love old mechanics they always have something up the sleeve.
My dad told me about that as well. Would be cool if they try it out
++ used that in my jeep but just few weeks then sound came back again
I bought a fiat cinquecento that had banna in gear box put in prob to sell it
Sawdust In the gearbox used to be a common bodge, I think I just made the synchromesh work better in a worn gearbox, but only long enough to sell it lol
I heard stuffing some banana in there will also do the same thing, make it last long enough to sell it
Just as Matilda's father does his job.
Pushing a pair of nylon tights in was supposed to be another bodge along these lines. They may have worked well enough to quieten it down so it could be sold.
The whine you are referring to comes from the pinion depth as related to the ring gear. It happens on vehicles that have a damaged crush collar or a myriad of other problems in the diff assembly. This is only a basic explanation, as many other factors can also cause the typical whine on decel vs accel . Using bad ground up gears won't get you the result your looking for. Still great video guys.
My thoughts as well.
This is pretty much what I was thinking, their diff is too far gone for this to work.
A worn pinion bearing will make a whine at speed too.
Could have better results if they have set the backlash on the pinion first,probably
It was a good video nonetheless!
An old trick usually for automatic transmissions back in the 60's beforw selling the car. Unsuspecting buyers falls for the smooth running tranny for a few days before it breaks down
Lol worked for matildas dad
@@Vinlaell Im thinkin more like Barney Fyffe
Lol yeah, never heard it as a "life hack," only as this way to screw people.
Thankfully it's pretty easy to drain the oil with sawdust inside and prove that it was a deliberate attempt to screw over the new owner in front of the court.
@@DarkLinkAD Mises Leish and her dearly departed husband Bernard's car?
Do “will it blend” videos with the clear diff cover. Shove random stuff in there to see if it grinds it all up. Lol
I test drivetrain components for a living, I can tell you for a fact that a diff will chew up anything and everything including itself when given enough torque.
@@forrestcarroll9350 They have an appetite for stray digits.
@@forrestcarroll9350 true. My pinion bearing went and one of the bearings came out along with part of the retainer... Sounded like a shotgun went off. No evidence of the pieces when I got home.ground up.
When rebuilding, I tried to use denim doubled over a few times to jam the gears while tightening the pinion nut... Yeah.. It grounded that up in a hurry.
Vlad, your expression when you let of the throttle is hilarious 😂🤣
And his Lada four point racing harness.
Admittedly I took lead foil and ran it through a coffee grinder and packed the differential of my own ural motorcycle combined with grease to quiet it down for a few hundred kilometers to get where I needed. It worked like magic. I’ve heard of transmissions and differentials packed with sawdust. I did not know the lead trick was common. I thought I was clever at the time.
Yeah lets put saw dust or powdered lead in a transmission. U do realize a manual is a gearbox? Go head n dump stupid shit in a automatic n see what happens.
@@shawnsatterlee6035 no shit
cool story bro
you might have been clever at the time but you won't be clever anymore after all that lead coffee
Matilda's dad would be proud of this experiment!
😂😂😂 I do rem that,though he added it to the engine if I remember correctly
I really wish I could see the oil with lead after the test. too see how the pieces of lead look alike
Same here, but I also wanted them to pop the diff out so we could see if the lead had started to coat the gears, or if it had just mulched down to thicken the oil?
I can confirm that the banana and it's peel worked in my case. In 1970 I worked for a small construction company (3 workers plus owner). We had an early 60s Chevy pickup with a bad whine. The boss had me drain the rear end and add the peel of a one banana. Then mash up banana with a fork in the drained oil and use it to refill the diff. He had me use the truck for 2 days it went completely quiet. Then he sold it. He told me this would only work for a couple hundred miles. He said after that the oil/banana mix would turn into something that looked like black Jell-O sticking to the inside rear end housing and rear end was trashed.
I think this story goes back to the days before they were using hypoid gears in differentials. Like when diffs still used straight cut gears.
Heavier trucks and buses often use diff gears with less angle meaning that they have some kind of audible humming but no grinding like the shot diff.
I was really hoping to see the diff. taken apart to see where the lead ended up.... too bad there was no transparant cover; maybe could have seen what happened right after start up. Great video still.
saw dust is much safer then powdered lead which could cause lead poisoning if it leaked out and got into a person no one's ever gotten saw dust poisoning🤣
The secret recipe is to add finely ground hot paprika, the Hungarian style. Also some Csabai sausages, roughly cut to pieces small enough just to fit through the hole. I would say about 0,7kg of paprika powder and 0,5 kg of Csabai sausages for that Lada differential. Also, no oil, but rather lard. About 1,3 kg should do the trick.
i couldn't read this without laughing
tastieee
Hi Erik, I'll be in Hungary next week for a family trip in the region. I haven't been there since 1990 when the road was full of Trabants! How is driving there these days? Are the cops tricky and nasty or can you go as fast as you find safe like in Poland and Germany?
@@danbergthold3481 I'm Hungarian. No more Trabants, sadly. Cops and cameras are well documented on Waze, with traffic coming from the other way alerting you if they saw any. Still, driving fast is discouraged by the road quality, which is absolutely dogshit. Do not rely on signage to navigate, they're bad.
@@davidtoth8975 Koszonom, David! (Sorry, I don't now how to get all those cool accents in there!). This is very helpful information. I know that much has changed since I was there and this is much appreciated intel. Back when I was there, almost nobody even had a telephone! I can't wait to get back the fabulous Hungarian food and wine!
Lead shot pellets are not pure lead, tin or antimony is added to harden them. Considerably harder than pure lead.
When I was very young, back in the early '60s', we could not afford major repairs to our cars. I remember old timers saying that they added 'oatmeal' to a rear end to quiet it down. And sometimes to a standard transmission to make it shift smoother. thanks for your many fasinating videos.
CV joint grease as top up instead of the oil does work with the beginnings of the whine. Did that and after 100 000 km the noise was still gone from the gearbox.
That’s what I was literally just thinking‘cause the sawdust only job is to thicken up the oil so I was thinking about packing it with like bearing grease or something like that
I am so very happy and fortunate that during these times with Russia you guys are still uploading. This is one of my favorite channels on UA-cam
I had a noisy 4.11 gearset in a Ford 9 inch and heard about the banana peel trick. So, I ground up a banana peel and stuffed it into the fill hole. After about 50 miles, the whine was gone! Now, I forget about doing this as years passed and destroyed it at the track. When I dropped the 3rd member, the smell was HORRIBLE as I was draining liquified rotten banana juice.
When they showed the undercarriage I was 100% expecting it to explode on the street. I was riding with one of my uncle's on the way to the scrap yard with about a 5000~ pound load of scrap metal, and literally a few hundred yards from the weighing scales just inside the yard. The differential exploded going around a bend just before the straight away to the yard. Then not even a month of being repaired, the transmission completely gave out at. You guessed it, the scrap yard. Where a big semi rig pulled him out of the way on the side of the road
At least the truck was already close to where it was gonna end up heh
Yo should try that Xado stuff. Used one in my transmission when it was whining and it did absolutely nothing. Would be interesting to see an in depth, unbiased review of their products.
I used xado in a 05 Peugeot 206 1.4hdi which was very noisy engine, spent 50 quid in xado and added it, quieter by 75%. Ran it for 2 yrs with 2vetxra treatments. I will use it again
would have loved to see the lead oil mix after driving
Imma go with "grey"
That look on his face around the 4:40 mark is hilarious! 🤣🤣
Or also a zinc additive or maybe some of that engine pellet stuff that you stick in for head gasket repair
The lead thing I've head about, but most guys called it 'white lead' which was actually lead oxide. It would help in lubricity, and it was a common racer's trick to get some additional performance over the pack of competition.
Ah, the pigment version. That's an interesting thought.
could hear the gears being machined down on deceleration haha
*Fifty year ago i used inside bicycle tyre tube cut in small pieces to reduce diff and transmission noise* worked well
Great episode
Thank you for providing the high quality content like always. Vlad and his cohorts are top notch especially in these contested times.
Fantastic job as always 👍👍👍👍👍
You need to add a few bananas to the sawdust/gear oil mix. A bit of grease from the grease gun is a must. This works fairly well in getting things quiet.
Then sell the car.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 well said good sir
Paraffin is a great use for rear ends as there is nothing to stop up like a engine from the 70s from use of Castrol oil that had paraffin in it mabe even transmissions
Barney Fifes car from Andy Griffith show had this wood shavings treatment.
Try the egg in a leaking radiator
I’ve seen it work. I’ve personally prefer course black pepper.
I put eggs in radiator with a leak, scrapped the car 6 months later still had tge same water in it.
@@rogerfrancis65 when I did the black pepper it lasted for years on a 300k engine. I sold the car with the pepper still in there.
For me personally bacon seems to do the job.
@@White000Crow Cinnamon powder works wonders.
in Indonesia its common to use thicker oil such as train oil or trsnsformer oil(electrical trafo)....banana....saw dust or even fill diff with chasis greas
Love you guys. THe crazy shit is excellent.
Hope all goes well with current, dramas, send the best to all the crew from DOWN UNDER.
Wish WE could have so much fun!!
Thumbs up.
they are real life myth busters man they try things for the hell of it to see what happens
Drain the diff oil.Then pump the diff full of EP#2 grease.Then drive.
Speaking of powdered lead, you should try putting lead balls like from a shotgun shell into a hot cylinder. I’ve heard of an old ford straight 6 truck engine being used as a generator that had low compression that the owner put some product into the cylinders thru the plug holes and it was basically just small lead balls that you’d add after running the engine and then run it more
Use a product called Engine RESTORE. It's an oil additive that rebuilds full factory compression in the cylinder walls and whole combustion chamber. Project Farm and many other channels have reviews on it and it really works without harming the engine at all. And plus it's also a SUPER Lubricant. Works with all oils but I prefer to run it with race oil like royal purple or Amsoil. Just pour it in and you'll start seeing results at around 200 miles or so. It's been proven with before and after compression tests
Mythbusters - Garage 54 edition ^.^
I've heard of using sawdust, bananas, straight STP, or motor honey.
I've tried STP, had to insert it with a spoon to the diff lol. Noise was slightly reduced but not gone.
I've seen an African semitruck have its differential filled with bananas to help it since it was failing. It actually worked.
Dishonest car sellers have been using techniques like this for years to make dying rattle traps sound better than they were.
I had a suuuuper rusty 300k mile truck with a terribly leaky power steering rack. It wouldn't hold fluid at all (it leaked out of the racks input shaft) I drove it around empty most of the time and muscled the wheel so I didn't have oil leaking all over my driveway... but before I traded it in (for scrap value, I just wanted to transfer the plates) I tried putting sawdust in the fluid to see if it would clog the leak. I put a few quarts of sawdust fluid in (3 tsp per qt of fine sawdust, and after it leaked enough out the leak slowed down dramatically! It went from emptying the res in 10 miles, to lasting a week! 😂
They should put these tips in the owner's manual.
GEE!!!!!!You outta bottle the stuff,,,,LOL
I always thought that sawdust in the diff works better with thick grease an a wee bit of oil...no just oil
I had a friend who was a mechanic and we had a bad CV joint and did not want to spend money on the car so he put cow shit inside the CV joint to stop it groning when going around a corner it was a vauxhall cavalier or Opel Vectra brilliant video guys
😄😄
Cow shit lol... He was a confident dude lol
If you live in an urban, cow-free area, would canine, feline or hu-person feces suffice?
I remember an episode of The Andy Griffith Show where Barney Fife bought a worn out car from a little old lady who "only drove it to church on Sundays." One trick was to put sawdust in the rear end to quiet the noise for a few days, just long enough to sell it.
Steering wheel became a dancing Cobra
They should use the transparent diff again for this experiment, it would have been awesome to see the lead shot through the transparent plexiglass.
yeah, and put a camera to watch it as it runs so we can watch it work in action
I worked in a gas station in 1964 and I saw the mechanic empty out a rear end that had saw shavings in the rear end but it wasn't saw dust like you put in... Use shavings not dust. Old used car trick in the South East of the USA.
Something potentially interesting to try:
Using a clutch disk as a brake rotor
Or using a brake rotor as a clutch disk
God that was funny. That would have to be the worst sounding AND looking diff I think I've ever seen being put INTO a car. That noise. OMG there really was some carnage going on in that diff.
Try replacing a steering wheel with a tyre 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I think the banana thing that other people suggested is true. Heard it before from several different mechanics. They said that the whole banana, green ones, are the best thing for it.
For power steering is the corn flour that makes it smooth
Power steering is so thin, just use 15w 40 instead of corn starch
Saw dust in the diff is the dealership special lol
I want to see pure lucus oil stabilizer in the diff
Our bus sounds the same :)
This was a trick that was used to cover diff problems on Fiat cars which were the same platform with Lada. They use to add sawdust to diff oil to keep it silent long enough until the car was sold.
I worked at a gas station in the 70's and put a zirk fitting on axle tube of a rear end and pumped it full of grease till it was leaking from the axle seals on each side. It was quiet for a while then bulged the cover and was squirting out a crack or split in the case. end of a 1960's ford falcon. Brakes didn't work very good and grease was all over under the car.
The problem is with this diff is not a worn gearset as much as a bad small/rear pinion bearing. Under deceleration the pinion gear is drawn into the crown gear causing terrible noise. It would be better to test this with a diff with still in-tact bearings, but a noisy/worn ring and pinion. It would likely help with that (albeit temporarily) as it will thicken the oil. The typical gear wine at 45mph / 80km/h type, rather than one like this.
I remember this, this use to be a thing back in the 70’s and up to the 90’s where old car dealers put saw dust into the diff to make it sound good when it had problems to sell the cars faster. Because they are used and old cars they couldn’t get money back. I had this happen to me with a 90 Caprice. Bought it 2015 and after a while it died.
The dust should not be a dust...it should be something bit thicker...
Have look for it in the pet shops.
Than it will work... I know the story since my childhood and it real works.
More shavings than dust
Maybe try a diff that's not quite so knackered 🤣🤣
As long as it whines it's working when the whine stops then you have to start worrying
Maybe a can or two of restore which has powdered copper, silver, and lead in it along with a can of STP, or motor honey.
having known people who have tried it, usually when the diff bearings are worn, they say it works BUT the diff doesnt usually live long. a couple of hundred miles at best. usually done to make it quiet and sell the car.
I would love to have a lada here in the US.
Nah, as an American, I love what you guys at Garage54 do. You have the same internal questions I have in MY head. But you guys have the b@!!$ to actually do it. I love this channel, and Vlad and Surgae and the rest of the "Garage54 Gang" as I like to say
On my 99 Suburban, the rear end has been howling for the last 7 years, not terrible but its there between 45 and 55mph, and higher or lower speed its silent, I have another rear end for it, just don't see the point in swapping it out yet. I just fill the rear diff with some really thick oil and change it out every year, been doing that for the last 7 years,. and its still going and hasn't gotten any worse lol.
I was told years ago ..when my trucks rear axle seals started leaking on a long roadtrip to Alaska from BC Canada to put sawdust or banana peels in it to help slow the leak so we could make it home!! And we made it!!
I have a suggestion for a build, make a Lada with 4 motorcycle engines each powering one wheel
Using a diff that is completely wasted is the issue. If it was just a whiner and added stuff it might help but that thing is horrendous to begin with.
I think a coarser saw dust would work for a little while. Also, it would be interesting to see how long a hand full of sand would take to destroy the diff.
Valve grinding compound does wonders. ;-)
I've heard people putting it in gearboxes lol
Ya know cooking oil does really quieten a knocking crank. Just add it to the existing oil.
Thing is, once the cooking oil has 'fixed' the knock, it will come back if you 'Give It The Beans'...
What is the beans good sir
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A heavy right foot.
😂😂😂thank you.
As always your video is interesting and entertaining, I have not watched one that I didn't enjoy. Compliments to you, your crew, video graphers and BMI for a job well done.
I heard that sawdust in an engine to stop big ends knocking, and a pair of tights in gearboxes or axles to stop whines and rattles.
Giday guys, Brad from Australia. Historically here down under in Australia we stuff the diff with banana peels. I'd like to see you guys try that in your diff. Cheers!
The trick is to fill up a worn tranny/diff with shreds of banana skins. The ling fibres are quite tough, and can fill out tolerances for a little while.
Instead of oil, fill it with mercury.
Very efficient way to sicken, kill, or injure anyone that dares to tailgate you or stand around the vehicle after a drive. Mercury vapor is terrifyingly deadly. Fields metal might be a better bet, but damn would that be expensive!
@@beez1598 See Codys lab, mercury dangers are overrated
You did the Salt Bae with the sawdust!!!! 😂😂😂You are my heroes ❤
Drain the differential. I would like to see if the lead shot was pulverized or not. One reason for poor results is, because those tricks art designed to take up clearances in loose bearings. When you assembled the differential, you probably took the excess play out of the bearings, so, the saw dust nor the lead shot had any clearance to take up. Loose bearings can cause whine, which could be corrected by taking play out of the bearings. In this case, the whine is caused by wear in the gears (ring and pinion), and these solutions can't do anything to correct it.
Next video, see how long it takes the diff to blow up or seize with no oil in it
Holy smokes, that thing was absolutely annihilated, lol. Besides the ring and pinion missing chunks, I have to believe that the bearings are all pretty much hammered poo at this point as well. I don't think anything short of the hand of God would make that thing quiet again. Well, maybe the Doctor's sonic screwdriver could too, but even that would have a hard time. Hahahaha.... But whatever, it was a fun watch anyway. As it always is from this crew.
I like it that they can take cars out on to the road in various states of repair and registration in a relaxed state, rather than be paranoid about giving thug cops an excuse to send a large fine and loss of demerit points your way, as Australian drivers are accustomed to.
Sounds like things have really gone downhill since they took everybody's guns.
The lead shot to powder manufacturing line - the things our mad lads will do to make a video lol
Powdered lead would ideally work the same way as molybednium in the oil
Years ago I had similar problems with with a gear box so I replaced the oil with a thicker oil {EP140} major problem !!! I couldn't change gears when the oil was cold because the oil was like liquid grease instead of oil . Maybe you should have used thicker oil {EP 140 } or thicker . Cheers from Down Under in Australia
You should try, Litium Grease Type 00, that thing being used on heavy machinery and electric wheelchair.
Kind of wanted to see what the gears and sludge looked like from the lead. Oh well. I wonder if it were filled with mercury if that woukd do it. Not a "trick of the trade" thing but just to see if it woukd.
ewwww, i'd love to know, BUT liquid mercury is really, really toxic and if you spill any it is very difficult to decontaminate the room.
@@ralphm4132 I understand that. Powdered lead would be bad too but they were willing to do it. As long as they take precautions it would be cool to see in the clear cover.
It’s still good for a another 100k lol 😂 Ladas have bulletproof engineering
Fill the diff with grease
The before and after video edits.
Gold 107%.
They used to do this in dishonest car lots when you bought cars as is, a few miles down the road the transmission fell apart when they first sounded great. The effects will last only a short while nothing long term.
Look at that no shimming required
A whole head of bananas peels and everything gets rid of it. It’s an old timer trick for stock car racing here in the USA
5:16 damn daniel !
Use strips of cork that's how it was done in the 20s and thirtys. The cork strips could be fed through the fill hole until the noise stopped then you give a test drive to the customer then sell him the car and get the heck out of town before the rear end blew up. LOL
Sawdust is not a Life hack it's a seedy dirty car dealer Hack my brother bought a 69 Buick skylark of which the car dealer used this dirty trick to sale it. They pack it slam full of sawdust then add the Diff Grease after sealing it
Buying used cars: Caveat Emptor!
"It hurts your feelings..."
In my case, it hurt my fillings. Almost as bad as fingernails over a chalkboard!
"It seems to be quieter"
"[Applause]"
In India I've seen them put whole bananas, in truck rear ends, & transmissions, to stop noise, or a leak, or something.....
I heard the same thing years ago when I was a kid, use a banana to make it quiet long enough to sell it
If you think of Mr. Wormwood when you see this video you deserve a veterans discount.
So what I'm hearing is, yes sawdust could work at first signs of a whine. But not so much for a badly damaged one.
Try non Newtonian fluid in the diff.