I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.
You better clean your lathe really good after this one. The abrasive dust will destroy the sliding surfaces. I dont even use the grinder in the same room as my lathe because of this.
In before the tabloid "news" programs grab the story "that the mechanics dont want you to know" angle grinder clutch disc, machines flywheel as you use it so when its due for new clutch, flywheel already machined. 🤣🤣🤣
Awesome idea, but i would have liked to see the disc be pushed to its limits, like trying to set of in 5th gear or really high revs and slow clutch depressing. Another Video idea i had was to maybe try and see if you could get a engine to run backwards like swap the cam shafts and intake and exhaust side and see if you can make it drive forwards in reverse, or have it spin the same direction just with the intake and exhaust sides swapped.
a (analog carburated) engine can run backwards, tried that as kid with a moped, you need to adjust spark timing, alternator might be a problem as it contains transistor and diodes to adjust magnetic field & polarity and camshaft belt/chain is setup to run in one direction.
There's videos of that on UA-cam. Doable, the biggest issue is the alternator - honestly you don't really have to change anything mechanically in the engine. Timing, spark, lots of determination and go
wait till he breaks that disc in your just seeing how well it works with the edge right now wait till it wear to having the whole disc touching then you're going to see some serious shit🤣
@@Matt-cl4mp If something is not legal "because it is not usual and non-industry-supporting stuff" - then you are somewhere in Central Europe 😧 I guess anywhere else on this planet they don't give a sh*t about such "legality" details.... Greetings from Austria
@@Matt-cl4mp Show me the regulation, at least in the US unless its a safety concern there is no regulation stating you can't use aftermarket clutch disks (just like I have an aftermarket radiator in my car that's superior to OEM), or that you can't change the windshield wipers or put in different transmissions or anything else like that. The government doesn't approve anything here (even DOT rated helmets are not tested by anyone in government, even that is self certified by the manufacturer and you just have to take their word that they actually tested them, I can make my own DOT rated helmets and slap the sticker on a bucket of foam and tape). There would never be any innovation if companies or individuals couldn't make any new or different parts, it simply wouldn't be possible to develop anything new.
you know why it works so well cause the grinder disc is made to grab so it can cut not surprising it works as a clutch not sure how long it would last compare to a real clutch, he should test it against one and put the car ir reverse while driving forwards and see which lasts longer against that abuse🤣🤣🤣
the sparks come from incandecent metal that's cut by the edge of the cutting disk, the flank of the cutting disk does not cut that much, though is for sure more abrasive than a standard clutch
When I see wacky stuff being done to cars on the title and the thumbnail, I just somehow just know it would be garage54 most of the time due to all the crazy stuff they do.
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Ten years later... "We have this x electric car, and we have other set of batteries too. Let's double the voltage and see how it happens.. I know it burns, but how it burns 🔥 "
I'd love to be able to get a clean little Lada shell here in the US, they look to have a lot in common with early 1970's Datsun 510 halfway to a Datsun B210 sedan.
before being a Lada, they were a Fiat 124 originally. VAZ bnought the rights to it when Fiat scrapped it as a current model, but they put locally sourced, cheaper engines in them, instead of the Fiat twin cam (from memory) engines, and the Lada was born!
Hot damn, finally something I've done Before Garage54! Had a tractor come in that needed a clutch that hadn't been made in 40 years. We tried this as proof of concept, then ended up doing a more proper version with phenolic resin, chopped carbon, silicon carbide, alumina, vacuum chamber and literal tons of pressure at 3000*. The friction discs didn't last very long nor tolerate heat like our carbon clutch did. 😁
This was exactly the result I thought would happen. The cutting discs are thicker than the original clutch material, so if anything I'd suspect the Lada would have a stiffer, more immediate clutch action.
@@Joshie2256 I imagine this custom clutch would last longer if used like an on off switch so as to give the disc less time to abrade the flywheel and pressure plate. Also, if given time to make the disc wear enough to sit flat against the flywheel and pressure plate, making full contact with them, there would be less abrasion because the full force of the pressure plate would be spread more evenly across the disc.
If you cut (resurfaced) that flywheel before you installed your grinder clutch disk I bet it would've been worn perfectly for the most part with little grooving, hot spots/ bluing, with a smooth, and near complete contact area on the flywheel/ p.p. Could've probably even taken a Roloc disk or a "Cookie Wheel" to them rather than stick it in the lathe for folks that didn't have access to one, and it probably would've done the trick. Nice work! 😀
Why are clutch disc friction linings riveted on and not glued to the backing metal like brake pads are? Do they flex a bit and that would break the glue?
considering that you can stall a a 230mm makita angle grinder while cutting a small piece of steel so a small contact area between the steel and the disc (it will rip you arms off but it's possible) it would make sense that it would make for an excellent clutch material, it has a LOT of grip make breaks from it now... instead of a cutting disc try using a grinding disc
Could you try to make wheels out of flywheels? Like 2 per wheel (2 as a wheel) because I think that is going to be kind of fun, maybe even get more traction because of the teeth for the starter motor, like your videos!
Always with the cool things. It would be interesting to see what would happen if you put one of these in a more powerful, road worthy vehicle and drove it many miles under everyday driving conditions over a set period of time. Would it crap out or prove to be just as good or better than a regular one.
I strongly doubt it'll perform better, since automobile manufacturers would use that instead cause it'd be cheaper, but i do suspect it'll hold a good time tho
Do a hill test! Try taking off and stand still just by using the cluch. Load the car heavy to really torture the cluch! The hotter it gets, the more sparks will fly.
This is the kind of diy stuff we all need to see. Too much giving all of our money to the corporations. Yaah, angle grinder disc clutch. That glue is something else.
Doesn't surprise me that it works. Just don't think it will have the same durability. Once all the grit is off the disc, will it continue to work as a clutch disc? That's what I want to know.
god damn. maybe try nore custom clutch disks. like carbon fiber or rubber. i wonder if the plate had teeth and the clutch had a plyable material like rubber or fabric if that would work.
This is another video where I feel like it should have gone on longer. I am curious to see what would have happened when the whole surface of the friction material met the whole surface of the flywheel. Would it have felt like a softer engaging race clutch? Would it have slipped? 🤷♂️
Seeing as it performed as a stock clutch using only 5% of the available surface area, if you let that wear in, it wouldn't be street drivable. You'd have a goddamned Stage 6 racing clutch.
What about using super glue with some kind of mesh for better grip on the material? Like you're in an emergency situation, or mega low budget and you just gotta get it somewhere?
Why you don't made tool jig from flywheel and press-system. It would push it equally and even centering it if you just add few tabs around disc.. but this is nice. In long term glue cannot handle those forces. Spinning ones and heat.. add those rivets, then no problem. And.. "surface area does not affect the amount of friction" Sintered discks clutches have very small surface areas. And those are still 'on-off' clutches. There could be some real world applications for this self-made thingy in rally or some.. Nice work..
*Ok, now what if you were to use the angle grinder disc for brake pads? That's pretty easy to try!*
That's a good suggestion.
@@freesoul9324 - I hope they see this and lots of people upvote it. That way, they'll have a better chance of seeing it.
I was thinking about the same
@@luklukk A Lada folks would agree!
That would be so easy to see
I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.
You better clean your lathe really good after this one. The abrasive dust will destroy the sliding surfaces. I dont even use the grinder in the same room as my lathe because of this.
Tahhhhhhccckkhh?
This was probably filmed a long time ago
I just got one for free out of a graphite shop...it's clapped out
That's a good tip
Good tip, that grinding dust gets everywhere
Perfect way to resurface your flywheel and pressure plate before the new disk.
In before the tabloid "news" programs grab the story "that the mechanics dont want you to know" angle grinder clutch disc, machines flywheel as you use it so when its due for new clutch, flywheel already machined. 🤣🤣🤣
I see no way of this going wrong
This is perfect
Great point!
Yet another 107% success! Now I know what to do if I can't find a clutch for my truck.
Or you can go to the parts store
@@leewriter4656 - Or, Harbor Freight Tools!
Awesome idea, but i would have liked to see the disc be pushed to its limits, like trying to set of in 5th gear or really high revs and slow clutch depressing.
Another Video idea i had was to maybe try and see if you could get a engine to run backwards like swap the cam shafts and intake and exhaust side and see if you can make it drive forwards in reverse, or have it spin the same direction just with the intake and exhaust sides swapped.
It’s a good idea , but they’ve done a video making the car drive forward in reverse before
a (analog carburated) engine can run backwards, tried that as kid with a moped, you need to adjust spark timing, alternator might be a problem as it contains transistor and diodes to adjust magnetic field & polarity and camshaft belt/chain is setup to run in one direction.
I'm glad they didn't push it to limits though bc then we see the wear pattern as opposed to just watching them sweep up bits and dust lol.
There's videos of that on UA-cam. Doable, the biggest issue is the alternator - honestly you don't really have to change anything mechanically in the engine. Timing, spark, lots of determination and go
@@AnalogDude_ a 2 stroke engine will. but a 4 stroke will need a LOT more changed than that.
This takes grinding gears to a whole nutha level.
wait till he breaks that disc in your just seeing how well it works with the edge right now wait till it wear to having the whole disc touching then you're going to see some serious shit🤣
You should do a long term test on that disc, id really like to see how long it lasts.
It would definitely be cheaper to make the disk rather than buying a whole new one lol
Its probably not legal in russia to drive a lada with a clutch made from an angle grinder disk.
@@Matt-cl4mp you're funny
@@Matt-cl4mp If something is not legal "because it is not usual and non-industry-supporting stuff" - then you are somewhere in Central Europe 😧 I guess anywhere else on this planet they don't give a sh*t about such "legality" details.... Greetings from Austria
@@Matt-cl4mp Show me the regulation, at least in the US unless its a safety concern there is no regulation stating you can't use aftermarket clutch disks (just like I have an aftermarket radiator in my car that's superior to OEM), or that you can't change the windshield wipers or put in different transmissions or anything else like that.
The government doesn't approve anything here (even DOT rated helmets are not tested by anyone in government, even that is self certified by the manufacturer and you just have to take their word that they actually tested them, I can make my own DOT rated helmets and slap the sticker on a bucket of foam and tape). There would never be any innovation if companies or individuals couldn't make any new or different parts, it simply wouldn't be possible to develop anything new.
Thank you very much Garage 54 for answering something I've always wondered my entire automotive life!
Never pay a mechanic to resurface your flywheel ever again. That clutch will leave that baby looking fresh every day.
we need long term testing. put it back into something that is an everyday driver and give it 6 months or so. great channel!
Yes please
Long term testing isn't practical unless done on public roads. What they really should have done was a torture test.
How to kill someone 101
Take it to the test track, try towing something heavy. I’d like to see how it works when fully scrubbed in!!! Awesome! 👍👍👍
you know why it works so well cause the grinder disc is made to grab so it can cut not surprising it works as a clutch not sure how long it would last compare to a real clutch, he should test it against one and put the car ir reverse while driving forwards and see which lasts longer against that abuse🤣🤣🤣
Replace the motor oil with Mayonnaise .
Cruel
Based Slav king
I've always wondered if grease could work
And replace the mayonnaise with motor oil! 😁
Just add water 🤣
Still the best damn auto channel on UA-cam! Best wishes to all the crew at 54 from the Missouri USA
the sparks come from incandecent metal that's cut by the edge of the cutting disk, the flank of the cutting disk does not cut that much, though is for sure more abrasive than a standard clutch
Gonna have the cleanest flywheel going......
Pressure plate too!!!
The obvious next step is to make brake pads from these disk and polish your brake rotors. With some sparks, of course! :D
Or piston rings and fix some cylinders if those walls are too smooth and dosen't keep any oil in grooves....
When I see wacky stuff being done to cars on the title and the thumbnail, I just somehow just know it would be garage54 most of the time due to all the crazy stuff they do.
Gotta be the most fun channel ever can't get enough of it 😆. love watching the antics on this channel , pure science 👍😆👍
I was hoping they'd try "riding the clutch" going up a hill, see if the adhesive would actually survive the heat.
Pulling away in 2nd, maybe even 3rd would allow more clutch slip to 'Mate' the two surfaces together as well?
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great video. i love the garage 54 experiments on cars!
Ten years later...
"We have this x electric car, and we have other set of batteries too. Let's double the voltage and see how it happens.. I know it burns, but how it burns 🔥 "
I'd love to be able to get a clean little Lada shell here in the US, they look to have a lot in common with early 1970's Datsun 510 halfway to a Datsun B210 sedan.
before being a Lada, they were a Fiat 124 originally. VAZ bnought the rights to it when Fiat scrapped it as a current model, but they put locally sourced, cheaper engines in them, instead of the Fiat twin cam (from memory) engines, and the Lada was born!
We have a customer that has been thru 3 clutches in 6 months. Should just give them one if these 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This video today was very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Keep doing the ideas you get.
Love the Lada on the wall …
Great artwork …👍👍👍
I used an metal chop saw disc for a brake disc on a bucher wine press it lasted over a month to the end of harvest.
Among the experiments they did on the lada, the magnet suspension is my favorite
Hot damn, finally something I've done Before Garage54! Had a tractor come in that needed a clutch that hadn't been made in 40 years. We tried this as proof of concept, then ended up doing a more proper version with phenolic resin, chopped carbon, silicon carbide, alumina, vacuum chamber and literal tons of pressure at 3000*.
The friction discs didn't last very long nor tolerate heat like our carbon clutch did. 😁
Shit like this is what the internet is for. This channel is awesome.
This was exactly the result I thought would happen. The cutting discs are thicker than the original clutch material, so if anything I'd suspect the Lada would have a stiffer, more immediate clutch action.
I would hazard a guess that clutch friction plates are made of a similar material to what grinder discs are made from, that's why it worked so well.
@@Joshie2256 I imagine this custom clutch would last longer if used like an on off switch so as to give the disc less time to abrade the flywheel and pressure plate. Also, if given time to make the disc wear enough to sit flat against the flywheel and pressure plate, making full contact with them, there would be less abrasion because the full force of the pressure plate would be spread more evenly across the disc.
@@Dappersworth just press the brake and the gas at the same time and let the clutch burn
If you cut (resurfaced) that flywheel before you installed your grinder clutch disk I bet it would've been worn perfectly for the most part with little grooving, hot spots/ bluing, with a smooth, and near complete contact area on the flywheel/ p.p. Could've probably even taken a Roloc disk or a "Cookie Wheel" to them rather than stick it in the lathe for folks that didn't have access to one, and it probably would've done the trick.
Nice work! 😀
That's one way to resurface the flywheel and clutch stuff
Thats a revolutionary racing clutch assy, it lightens the flywheel on the go
Yup that’s a 107% success & worked great in that Lada! 🙂🙂 Can’t kill a Lada! 🙂🙂
Why are clutch disc friction linings riveted on and not glued to the backing metal like brake pads are? Do they flex a bit and that would break the glue?
wow, this was FASCINATING!!
this man just destroyed the clutch disc industry
considering that you can stall a a 230mm makita angle grinder while cutting a small piece of steel so a small contact area between the steel and the disc (it will rip you arms off but it's possible)
it would make sense that it would make for an excellent clutch material, it has a LOT of grip
make breaks from it now... instead of a cutting disc try using a grinding disc
I think the whirring sound might have just been normal angle grinder noises 😂 this works too well
was waiting for the massive clutch dump, still interesting video for sure
Awesome video, you guys never fail to impress! You guys always blow my mind!! Love from Australia, keep up the good work!
Eye opener, with safety glasses on mind!
Gives new meaning to "If you can't find it, grind it!!!"... :P
Wow! Very impressive! I call that a successful test!👌😎👍
Could you try to make wheels out of flywheels? Like 2 per wheel (2 as a wheel) because I think that is going to be kind of fun, maybe even get more traction because of the teeth for the starter motor, like your videos!
Suggestion: Brake line lock solenoid value, one on each wheel, each controled by a button, DIY traction control 😀
no need to resurface the flywheel and replace the pressure plate, a grinder clutch will automatically surface and polish both saving you money!
So how clutch disks work in angle grinder????
7:34 Wow, Toyota Cavalier in the background? Not see one of those in 10 years or more!
What about a Diamond "Turbo" Grinding disc instead of a standard abrasive disc
Always with the cool things. It would be interesting to see what would happen if you put one of these in a more powerful, road worthy vehicle and drove it many miles under everyday driving conditions over a set period of time. Would it crap out or prove to be just as good or better than a regular one.
I strongly doubt it'll perform better, since automobile manufacturers would use that instead cause it'd be cheaper, but i do suspect it'll hold a good time tho
I bet if you slotted the abrasive disk it might have worked differently. Thank a very wild idea that worked well.
Perhaps... but it did work very well. I wish he would have did a bit more driving with it.
This is why i love this channel!
long term testing and review!!
Do a hill test! Try taking off and stand still just by using the cluch. Load the car heavy to really torture the cluch!
The hotter it gets, the more sparks will fly.
I never thought I'd watch a Russian doing rollbacks in a Lada with a grinding disc for a clutch.
My stepdad once told me that he rebuilt a Buick engine using a leather strap or belt for the engine bearings I’d like to see if that would really work
Next: Use a clutch disc to grind stuff.
God bless the internet. Car guys are car guys no matter where they live.
Wonderful video! Fantastic content!
What is the name of this special glue?
You should run this clutch for an extended period of time the test of time and see how many km you can get.
Maybe try to "burn" the clutch with this disc. I wonder what will give up first, disc? Flywheel? Pressure plate?
This is the kind of diy stuff we all need to see. Too much giving all of our money to the corporations. Yaah, angle grinder disc clutch. That glue is something else.
These are the guys that will still have running cars long after the end of the world.
Id love to see a massive heavy flywheel and clutch out of a truck on a lada vs the smallest and lightest flywheel and clutch you can find on one too
in a way they already did that with the 5 (i think it was) flywheels on an engine
Should try a long-term test drive to see how long it lasts
Should try with the thicker grinding wheel
I'm sure all that abrasive dust is great for the lathe ways 😂
I love these guys and their creativity.
Why would we ever want to go to war with these guys?
I would much rather have them as friends.
My most favorite christmas memories: dad backing us friction disks.
break distance and endurance test for breaks would be cool like others suggest!
Replace radiator coolent with oil. Oil cooled. Will it work?
Turn a cutting disc into a set of brake pads
yassss
Set a Lada on a raft or in a boat, remove the rear axle, extend the driveshaft, and connect it to a propeller and go power boating!
Do a DIY Wet clutch.
Cool. Fun experiment. Subscribed. :)
That thing is constantly resurfacing the flywheel 🤦♂️😱😱😱😱🤨🤨🤣🤣🤣🤣... The more u drive the better the grip
congrats guys, you just invented a new way to resurface your fly wheel and pressure plate
what is the glue you used to bond it?
I swear these guys have unlimited lada engines on hand 😆
Doesn't surprise me that it works. Just don't think it will have the same durability. Once all the grit is off the disc, will it continue to work as a clutch disc? That's what I want to know.
That will be a good experiment 🔬
barrel plow? V8 drift car, welded diff, 5/8 inch gr8 tire chains... made it as a joke but it actually works.
god damn. maybe try nore custom clutch disks. like carbon fiber or rubber. i wonder if the plate had teeth and the clutch had a plyable material like rubber or fabric if that would work.
i mean thw flywheel! not the plate lol
This is another video where I feel like it should have gone on longer.
I am curious to see what would have happened when the whole surface of the friction material met the whole surface of the flywheel. Would it have felt like a softer engaging race clutch? Would it have slipped? 🤷♂️
Seeing as it performed as a stock clutch using only 5% of the available surface area, if you let that wear in, it wouldn't be street drivable. You'd have a goddamned Stage 6 racing clutch.
Epic. Do a video showing your top 10 best working ideas in a compilation.
good way to resurface the pressure plate
I havnt watched this yet but i have high hopes!
but for how many miles can it be driven?
What about using super glue with some kind of mesh for better grip on the material? Like you're in an emergency situation, or mega low budget and you just gotta get it somewhere?
2:56 once that heats up good bye clutch.
Car hack: how to never have to resurface your flywheel ever again.
7:34 OK WHY is there a Jbody Cavalier in Russia? Is it a TRD Cavi?
Very interesting results!
Why you don't made tool jig from flywheel and press-system. It would push it equally and even centering it if you just add few tabs around disc.. but this is nice. In long term glue cannot handle those forces. Spinning ones and heat.. add those rivets, then no problem.
And..
"surface area does not affect the amount of friction"
Sintered discks clutches have very small surface areas. And those are still 'on-off' clutches.
There could be some real world applications for this self-made thingy in rally or some..
Nice work..
7:34 omg a Chevy cavalier 😆