China Chat: Insight into the Chinese car market and its plans to expand globally. Episode 1

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  • Welcome to China Chat - Episode 1 - with Ciro De Siena and Rob Yao.
    The Chinese car industry has evolved rapidly over the last decade. What started out as a copycat culture has developed into a global machine that is penetrating the world's automotive industry. How have Chinese cars developed and what is the culture that has led them to such speedy growth? Rob Yao has unique insights into the Chinese culture as a professional translator.
    Rob has been the in-between voice for the Chinese manufacturers wherever they have looked to expand. His unique insight provides an interesting take on what to expect from the Chinese moving forward as well as where the Chinese plan on leading the way.
    0:00 - Intro
    0:40 - The aim of this podcast series
    1:33 - How do you train a car?
    2:00 - What is a Consecutive Translator
    3:30 - Rob Yao’s background
    7:15 - Perception of Chinese cars
    9:15 - The Chinese market
    10:15 - Chinese competition
    11:10 - Adapting of car styling
    14:50 - Chinese car manufacturers
    16:45 - Car prices in China
    19:20 - EVs
    24:00 - Chinese apps
    27:00 - Chinese culture
    30:30 - Chinese factories
    34:00 - Chinese labour
    38:30 - Chinese healthcare
    41:45 - Conclusion
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  • @jacksonm.6549
    @jacksonm.6549 2 місяці тому +20

    I love how direct Rob was in this podcast. He didn't hold back with his summary description of history 😅

  • @000T00b
    @000T00b 2 місяці тому +49

    Hi Ciro, 55 year old Chinese guy, born in SA. (My parents, were also born here in the 1930s, it was my grandparents on both Mom and Dad’s side who came here from different parts of China). I’m a bit gobsmacked by how much Ciro knows about Chinese history in SA. Yes, as Chinese, we were ‘second class’ citizens, same as Indians and Coloureds, and like them we could not vote. Yet any Japanese born in SA were classified ‘first class’ citizens. Go figure. Then the Taiwanese (who are Chinese too) were lured to SA by the Nat govt, to establish factories and industry particularly in the "independent homelands". Once that happened, we locally-born Chinese were allowed to apply to the Minister of Education for permission to attend white schools or universities, but we were not allowed to vote until 1994. I am still in contact with one of my Taiwanese classmates who is back in Taiwan, and he travels between there and China on business all the time.

    • @wade2033
      @wade2033 2 місяці тому +4

      Thank you for sharing! My grandfather was Chinese, but he passed away a long time ago. There was a lot of mystery surrounding him and how he came to settle in the Coloured community. History is so fascinating.

  • @ericmudoni8009
    @ericmudoni8009 2 місяці тому +21

    More please! This was brilliant. I really like the direction this channel is going. Nothing like it in SA!

  • @russellmccandlish3132
    @russellmccandlish3132 2 місяці тому +18

    I wish world leaders would talk to each other like this. Talking, listening and learning. Nice to hear and learn from them in a casual setting.

    • @moeketsithakadi3574
      @moeketsithakadi3574 2 місяці тому +2

      I do agree with you. These 2 Guys are a match made in SA. Well informed.

  • @etienne6641
    @etienne6641 2 місяці тому +7

    很好, 我喜欢中国车。 Best idea ever to launch this series. Delivering first hand information instead of hear say. Can't wait for the next episode. Bring it on 🤞

  • @heinrethasangerhaus4242
    @heinrethasangerhaus4242 2 місяці тому +8

    Hi Chiro and Rob. Thank you for this very interesting conversation-enjoyed it very much. Looking forward to the next episode. Greetings.

  • @marklawrence7355
    @marklawrence7355 2 місяці тому +9

    What an eye opener... brilliant stuff Ciro... can't wait for the next episode

  • @2Mortal
    @2Mortal 2 місяці тому +5

    The halo on top of Rob's head. Love it. 😊😂

  • @borismkhwanazi583
    @borismkhwanazi583 2 місяці тому +9

    South Africa best car podcast❤❤

  • @DIESELTECH_ZA
    @DIESELTECH_ZA 2 місяці тому +4

    ' Shop with Rob' for the following episode/s title. Quite interesting to hear how Rob views both countries. Thanks for the content. 😎✌️

  • @Vickyli-hk
    @Vickyli-hk 2 місяці тому +1

    Just very happy for my friend in childhood!!!! You did what you love! Still remember that essay you wrote about cars when we were in primary school which got full score!!! Proud of you Rob!! 🎉😊😊

  • @Mzwandile_Makhowane
    @Mzwandile_Makhowane 2 місяці тому +1

    What an incredibly informative show this is/was. Rob Yao is quite a fantastic guy. Thank you for bringing him over. Ciro, you are simply an outstanding human being! 🤩

  • @jeremiah8973
    @jeremiah8973 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you, this was an education.
    Rob is very motivational, he guides you on what to focus on. That's so different and a joy to experience.

  • @ashfordcharles2228
    @ashfordcharles2228 2 місяці тому +4

    May this video reach 1million views!

  • @jameswebster9048
    @jameswebster9048 2 місяці тому +3

    Fascinating discussion! Looking forward to the next installment.

  • @tlhoxkungoane886
    @tlhoxkungoane886 2 місяці тому +1

    I could watch this episode repeatedly. Very educational. Cheers to many more episodes. I can't wait for the next installment.

  • @darrenlesterkneechong2282
    @darrenlesterkneechong2282 2 місяці тому

    Thanks Ciro and Rob!That was excellent cant wait for episode 2

  • @ValueCarsAU
    @ValueCarsAU 2 місяці тому +1

    Fantastic podcast, I wish more of the Australian bogans who watch my channel would actually catch what your guest is talking about. Well done guys.

  • @iaredub
    @iaredub 2 місяці тому +1

    I am looking forward to more of these!

  • @Kragkreef
    @Kragkreef 2 місяці тому +1

    Ooooo can't wait for the next episode!!!!

  • @jerrychiang5660
    @jerrychiang5660 2 місяці тому +1

    I truely enjoyed this episode. Episode 2 please. This is really good.

  • @shaungarthwaite133
    @shaungarthwaite133 2 місяці тому

    Nice segment!! One of your best Ciro!! Thank you.

  • @leratomotsumi7090
    @leratomotsumi7090 2 місяці тому +1

    I like this guy. And Ciro is always a great communicator

  • @user-qc6mo7tr7c
    @user-qc6mo7tr7c 2 місяці тому +1

    Super insightful! Not just about cars, but the Chinese economy in general I think. Interesting future ahead

  • @gerhardmaree
    @gerhardmaree 2 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant chat this! Eye opening!

  • @moeketsithakadi3574
    @moeketsithakadi3574 2 місяці тому

    Never watched a car show and felt so honored. I love Chinese philosophy from watching Cyrus Jansen. Jan Weiwei. Thanks for bringing geopolitics in the car industries.
    Deep understanding of manufacturing is needed for us viewers too. Facts based on Statistics shall be appreciated too. ❤❤❤

  • @celiwenkomo5765
    @celiwenkomo5765 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice! I like the fact that it’s not hours, shoots straight to point. I’m coming back for more🎉

  • @franciskeikeire3662
    @franciskeikeire3662 2 місяці тому

    Well done Ciro & Rob. Very enlightening discussion. Keep these insightful sessions coming.

  • @giodebruyn9916
    @giodebruyn9916 2 місяці тому

    Great episode, looking forward to watching episode 2

  • @Mothercityguy
    @Mothercityguy 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome podcast cant wait for the second one.

  • @conradbo1
    @conradbo1 2 місяці тому +1

    Great interview. Very insightful and informative.

  • @papimbhele2997
    @papimbhele2997 2 місяці тому

    I’ve always loved Ciro’s reviews and found him to be quite genuine aside from being likeable and a great journalist but this interview really proved my suspicions that he’s an all round great guy, shout out to you Ciro for this great and well balanced interview… I’m always pleased to see white South African’s that are this genuine about racial dynamics

  • @simelanem
    @simelanem 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow! I’m not a podcast consumer but I enjoyed this. I just wish we can have part two tomorrow

  • @diekeyser
    @diekeyser 2 місяці тому

    this felt like the most honest podcast i ever heard. Great Gents

  • @LungeloGigaba
    @LungeloGigaba 2 місяці тому +1

    Great introduction to the series. Nicely done.

  • @douglasvanwyk2073
    @douglasvanwyk2073 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome episode, looking forward the next ones to come. Always love Ciro's view on almost all things, and to have Rob now is very refreshing. I am absolutely sold on Chinese products, especially cars. Have owned three now and always looking for the next one. Their (Chinese) outlook on technology and value they bring to the table with such brave enthusiasm is next level. Its about time that bloated traditional brands get a good run for their money.

    • @Rob_Yao
      @Rob_Yao 2 місяці тому

      Would really love to see that the traditional brands can also drop their prices from the Chinese OEM competition, which will benefit all the consumers like us

  • @grahamarthur
    @grahamarthur 2 місяці тому +1

    Excellent and super interesting interview Ciro 👏

  • @cheslinpetersen6551
    @cheslinpetersen6551 2 місяці тому

    This was gold. Very interesting for those that have never traveled to China (like myself). Might have to make a trip after hearing these great things about China

  • @user-wb6fi7hp1i
    @user-wb6fi7hp1i 2 місяці тому

    Very interesting chat, will also look out for episode 2. Great work!

  • @DeotheLeo1
    @DeotheLeo1 2 місяці тому +1

    This is a fascinating interview. Absolutely enjoyed it especially about the schooling system.

    • @Carscoza
      @Carscoza  2 місяці тому

      So glad you enjoyed it. Episode 2 has been filmed and coming out this week

  • @cindyjoshua7367
    @cindyjoshua7367 2 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant podcast. Watched to the end even with me being little ADHD. Keep up the good work. Rob is such a cool guy. Would love to have u guys at the East Rand Motor Show.

  • @scelomasondo1770
    @scelomasondo1770 2 місяці тому

    very informative and let's keep this going Thank you for this podcast

  • @motheo6766
    @motheo6766 2 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant interview!

  • @muthusimakhani36
    @muthusimakhani36 2 місяці тому +1

    Very interesting conversation, loved it

  • @vuyisilelobi6297
    @vuyisilelobi6297 2 місяці тому

    I love the content it has really helped as I teach 2 chineses kids I really look forward to the next show.

  • @axolatungela5234
    @axolatungela5234 2 місяці тому

    Very interesting conversation looking forward to more episodes

  • @KhanyoMjamba
    @KhanyoMjamba 2 місяці тому +1

    Interesting. Nice one, Ciro. Rob is an interesting fellow. Also has an interesting English accent, goes from SA to China.

    • @Rob_Yao
      @Rob_Yao 2 місяці тому

      Thanks man, I do have an interesting Mzansi Mandarin accent

  • @lwazifadana5764
    @lwazifadana5764 2 місяці тому

    Dope episode 🙌

  • @smartchokoe727
    @smartchokoe727 2 місяці тому

    This is a very good learning episode. I wish most of the companies and societies can learn and improve themselves out of this conversation. Thanks very much for your consideration, I learned lot from this.

  • @tumelomotsepe8378
    @tumelomotsepe8378 2 місяці тому +1

    Really loved the series, I like how he was open about racism and its effect and being an Auto electrician my self I really wanted to work in China in 2018 but being black racism is always something I'm more likely to experience it n social media does do china justice in its own racism against black people.

  • @123sm88
    @123sm88 2 місяці тому

    Awesome podcast Learnt so much about Chinese culture Thank you Rob 👏

  • @tsepomaphatsoe2105
    @tsepomaphatsoe2105 2 місяці тому

    More of these please 🙏🏽

  • @jeremydebruyn8346
    @jeremydebruyn8346 Місяць тому

    Excellent Show..

  • @derickcoetzee1221
    @derickcoetzee1221 2 місяці тому

    I have subscribed, bring on the next episode please guys!!! Our greedy and corrupt government can really learn a lot from the Chinese. Implimenting is where we horribly fail at.....and Don't forget about the lack of education created by our previous government.

  • @umbilodurban6638
    @umbilodurban6638 Місяць тому

    Lovely interview.
    I really hope that some of the these cars manufacturers can have factories here is SA as well. even if its just assembly. I think that way consumer will have more trust in the product knowing they will get full support locally and also benefiting economically

  • @keatongroom
    @keatongroom 2 місяці тому

    The office looks awesome man! 🎉🎉

  • @CasparSikhakhane
    @CasparSikhakhane 2 місяці тому +2

    Learned a looootttttt

  • @moeketsithakadi3574
    @moeketsithakadi3574 2 місяці тому

    Very informative, lovely history. They understand geopolitics too. Well read too for the Chinese guy. True example that stereotypes do change for the better with time and consistency. We were used to view as sub par business people with poor linguistical clarity. Now their public image.

  • @brapanda7247
    @brapanda7247 2 місяці тому

    Very informative.

  • @moitshephisamuel1058
    @moitshephisamuel1058 Місяць тому

    This is fun!

  • @moeketsithakadi3574
    @moeketsithakadi3574 2 місяці тому

    Lovely that this guy is focusing on the Chinese market for his company and business. You won't struggle to grow if U befriend people people with the same kind of energy.

  • @beetro2409
    @beetro2409 2 місяці тому +1

    Very nice podcast. Any new news on the BAIC BJ40 plus, will be appreciated. Thank you

  • @moeketsithakadi3574
    @moeketsithakadi3574 2 місяці тому

    I know Forvia. These guys are well informed wow

  • @moeketsithakadi3574
    @moeketsithakadi3574 2 місяці тому

    The show should be: AUTOPOLITIK CHINA/SA SHOW. I would also love to join this lovely show.

  • @borismkhwanazi583
    @borismkhwanazi583 2 місяці тому +2

    looking forward to the J7

  • @basildavidson4597
    @basildavidson4597 2 місяці тому

    Excellent

  • @Thulebeez
    @Thulebeez 2 місяці тому +1

    The only Chinese cars I am interested in is EV’s. Can Rob take through the coming EV’s and affordable prices.

  • @Mothercityguy
    @Mothercityguy 2 місяці тому +2

    This guys accent is on point. You could take him into Hanover Park and they wouldn't touch him.

    • @moeketsithakadi3574
      @moeketsithakadi3574 2 місяці тому

      Language opens up boundaries. One thing I wish These 2 can learn is Zulu os Sesotho

  • @bradmallett8698
    @bradmallett8698 Місяць тому

    Great listen gents dig it. I want a Jeacoo J7 🤣

  • @johannjoubert4718
    @johannjoubert4718 2 місяці тому +1

    What an awesome and informative podcast! Really cool. Would love to go try out the hotpot restaurant 😋 Where exactly did you go? Sounds like worth visiting

    • @Carscoza
      @Carscoza  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you so much! My Pot in Cedar Square, Fourways. It is inside a sushi restaurant in case you can't find it

    • @johannjoubert4718
      @johannjoubert4718 2 місяці тому

      @@Carscoza thanks so much. Appreciate it ;)

  • @willmadikizela5821
    @willmadikizela5821 2 місяці тому

    Chinese market is something else>>

  • @IsaacGbornor_gv
    @IsaacGbornor_gv 2 місяці тому

    I am Very Proud of the Chinese for where they have Reach in life today ,Great People and Selfless People, they try to make life easier for Everyone across the Globe 🌎🌍🌏 👍👍👍👍👍 29:33

  • @michaelmokadi3226
    @michaelmokadi3226 2 місяці тому

    China Chow! A play on words between Chowing in a ZA context but also Chow Mein which is a popular Chinese dish? No? Okay I'll keep spit balling 😅

  • @michaelsheepo9315
    @michaelsheepo9315 2 місяці тому +1

    Next time also talk about the CHINESE super car by BYD

  • @jm78593
    @jm78593 2 місяці тому +1

    GWM needs to give Ciro a decent Commission

  • @bradmallett8698
    @bradmallett8698 Місяць тому

    More info on Jeacoo pls

  • @moeketsithakadi3574
    @moeketsithakadi3574 2 місяці тому

    Please also talk about Jentour SUV

  • @the.dialogue41
    @the.dialogue41 Місяць тому

    How does Jingtrades sound? Beijing Trades?

  • @malibongwemsomi2230
    @malibongwemsomi2230 2 місяці тому

    Not in the studio. Why Ciro

  • @leonfilander425
    @leonfilander425 2 місяці тому

    Would it be cheaper to buy a Chinese manufactured car from China and importing it or just buying it in South Africa?

  • @lusandashandu5182
    @lusandashandu5182 2 місяці тому

    Hi Ciro i wanted to know why the Chinese market does not dab into the hatchback type kind of cars

    • @Rob_Yao
      @Rob_Yao 2 місяці тому

      Let me answer that, because we vain, we want sedans to make us look important haha, and we think sedan shape has more crumple zone in an accident so it’s safer, but younger generation definitely starting to create more demand for hot hatches

  • @moeketsithakadi3574
    @moeketsithakadi3574 2 місяці тому

    😂These 2 Guys are clever

  • @wrongturn25
    @wrongturn25 2 місяці тому +1

    this kind of dialogue should be more, because south african has been influenced by western media for very long, so much sterotype of China, my friends always ask me about China, i first tell them what i experienced, and i always said go to China and experience it, don't just listen. i know it's too unbelievable when people just hear from one, life is so difference between two countries.

    • @Rob_Yao
      @Rob_Yao 2 місяці тому

      Can never wake up a person who’s pretending to be asleep, open minded people will always be interested to have both side of the story so they can make their own judgement, idiots and sheeps will just listen and believe what’s presented/fed

  • @MondliMakhoba-md3sq
    @MondliMakhoba-md3sq 2 місяці тому

    I love how the Chinese run their economy seems like everyone can afford food, housing and Cars Cars Cars

  • @ryanisana2903
    @ryanisana2903 2 місяці тому +1

    Big Wang... 🤣

  • @keeagilegarenamotse9960
    @keeagilegarenamotse9960 2 місяці тому +1

    Please let them we are waiting for v6s and v8s engines

    • @Rob_Yao
      @Rob_Yao 2 місяці тому

      To be honest even though I’m Chinese I still like Italian V8s 😅

  • @MthimkhuluD
    @MthimkhuluD 2 місяці тому

    Are the cars reliable ?

    • @LungeloGigaba
      @LungeloGigaba 2 місяці тому +1

      Bafo, did you watch or listen to the episode?

    • @MthimkhuluD
      @MthimkhuluD 2 місяці тому

      @@LungeloGigaba yes , the whole episode and will i will be watching the next parts aswell . Now back to the question , are their cars reliable . If yes im buying one .

    • @moeketsithakadi3574
      @moeketsithakadi3574 2 місяці тому +1

      If u take it for service it will last you chief. Just like any car

  • @fred3527
    @fred3527 2 місяці тому

    Didn't know that Ciro was Italian. Video smack a little of paid propaganda.

  • @jankoekemoer6034
    @jankoekemoer6034 2 місяці тому

    Just wait till the shit hits the fan. Let's see how long these Chinese products last. Maybe not tomorrow. Maybe not next month. Our dear country certainly has made their bed.

    • @Rob_Yao
      @Rob_Yao 2 місяці тому

      Yeah I’m also waiting for when’s the Chinese space station to fall off the sky, google it, maybe it will change your view on Chinese quality, there’s different quality products for different target markets, and question for you, if a European machinery that can last 50 years and cost 100 million rand to buy, and Chinese machinery cost 20 million rand to buy but will last only 30 years, which one would you choose, Chinese quality may not be super durable but super durable stuff also doesn’t get updates, remember one of the first light bulb factory closed down because their light bulbs were too durable and they never break so they couldn’t sell more lightbulbs. Let that sink in….

  • @1100Anon1
    @1100Anon1 2 місяці тому

    This sycophantic interview does nothing to establish Car magazine's disinterestedness. A case of dining with the devil.

    • @Rob_Yao
      @Rob_Yao 2 місяці тому

      Learnt a new word today, had to use google translate for sycophantic, thank you for the education. 😊

  • @Griffitas
    @Griffitas 2 місяці тому

    I will not drive a Chinese car. I do not trust the quality.

  • @WehnkeBotha
    @WehnkeBotha 2 місяці тому

    Rob sounds like a Fourways boet
    Thank you for the open and frank conversation, I am still enjoying my Chery Tiggo 4 Pro, shes a bit thirsty.. but its's okay...
    @ROB - Gong Xi Fa Cai 恭喜发财