Useful comparison for someone like me researching these products for a DIY job. Looks like the Nuance product is the benchmark and the choice if budget allows.
From our view, yes. We're using both Nuance and Multipanel now. Nuance plus point = round edges can sometimes save need to edge on site, Multipanel plus point =we believe it is more recyclable being timber based. Pricing on fully fitted rooms has been similar enough and they have some different colours/effects so we're still offering both and picking the best for a given room.
@@RootsKent Thanks for the info, I have another question; what about installations where you don't know the quality of the substrate until you've removed existing tiles etc.? Are they both as tolerant of poor substrate? For me, I won't remove my tiles until I have the chosen panels and everything to complete the job ready on-site.
Thank you, glad it was useful 😊 I still like both the multi panel and the nuance. I'm sure there are other panels (someone here mentioned a brand Fibo iirc as similar to multipanel) but I haven't test others. We do have a new material for shower wall panels.. video coming .. eventually when I have time... it might be a while!, but it's a very different price point. If Nuance is around £500 including fitting (£360ish just panel), this new product is from £1,500 per panel.
@@RootsKent I’m looking at Fibo in my new property as I had it fitted in my last house. Wish I lived in your area as I’m renovating my bungalow and having a completely new en-suite, bathroom and kitchen, but I live in Lincolnshire. I’m binge watching your videos
Very useful test! I am thinking shower panels and I was thinking about this question if they really robust enough. As you migt get a little nick on the board then it might detoriate from there but it sounds like it will give you enough time to notide the damage and repair. Super work! I suppose plywood if also better for fitting wall acessories (any comments please? ) Many thanks.
For fitting accessories, either Multipanel or Nuance are equal in my opinion (and ideally you'd be fixing to the substrate behind them, like the wall or timbers you put in the right place before you fitted the panels, but for lightweight accessories that won't be pulled on that's not essential)
Hi, thank you for the video. I was wondering, now you have been fitting multipanel for a few years, are you still as impressed, have you had any problems with it? I am in the process of changing from tile to wall panel and I'm down to Nuance or Multipanel!! Thank you in advance :)
Tough choice, but that means you'll be good either way! Pick the one you like most. Nuance is still more popular for us because of a) the rounded edge b) designer habit when designing and ordering (that's not a great reason for you, just the truth!) If all things are equal, I think the multipanel wins for me for environmental points and if I was doing my bathroom today I'd be looking at ways to use it over nuance for that reason.
Hi Steve. I am about to wet wall a bathroom with a shower over a bath and wondered if you leave a gap at the bottom of the wet wall or fit it hard down onto the bath. Or perhaps you use a surface trim/seal? Do you use any particular seal behind the wet wall in the same location. Thanks.
I would do this 👇; - Check the product instructions first in case they have a rule. Some need a trim because of the material they're made of. - If they don't say anything, a 1-2mm gap to give enough space for the silicon sealant to fill and seal. - For a seal behind the wet wall at the join between bath and panel, Classi-Seal (manufacturers* web site = waterproofyourbathroom.com/ it's sold in lots of places) will prevent problems if your silicon seal ever fails. - bonus tip: A bath filled with water often sinks slightly/changes shape so if you fill the bath with water before you seal and leave it full of water until the silicon sets then you reduce the chance of a full bath of water pulling the silicon joint open. I hope it goes well 🙂 Steve *Made in Northern Ireland by the same manufacturer as the Senstec anti slip shower tray I talk about here: ua-cam.com/video/g7rL73WIeFg/v-deo.html&t
@@diy-fi6jq A bath, yes. Acrylic baths especially are prone to change shape slightly when full of water - maybe not enough to notice but maybe it's 1mm more than your silicon is designed to stretch. Oftentimes you'll be fine if you don't fill it with water - it's just about reducing the probability. Shower trays don't have the issue, for many years most are solid lumps of concrete/resin so there is no flex (unless the floor is moving... that's a different problem to solve)
Hi Mike, I'd be happy with either in my own room. The decision as to which would be based on: Price difference for the colour(s) I like, Edge finish (I like the nuance round edge but that doesn't always work to be useful in a design)
Sure, any specific detail that you're working on? > most of them are 10mm thickness Yes, that seems to be the sweet spot between being rigid enough to handle whilst being as thin and light weight as possible for distribution and installing. > by 1m and laminate or tung and Grove can you advise T&G panels are best when panels have to join to make a longer run. Square edge versions often need joining profiles (sometimes called H profiles) and therefore have more visible joins. 1.2m widths seem to be most common from my experience, but sometimes narrower options like 90cm can save a little money. Nuance have a neat 65cm wide panel that has rounded edges on both sides - useful as a feature behind a basin but also for boxing soil pipes thanks to the round edge
Useful comparison for someone like me researching these products for a DIY job. Looks like the Nuance product is the benchmark and the choice if budget allows.
From our view, yes. We're using both Nuance and Multipanel now.
Nuance plus point = round edges can sometimes save need to edge on site,
Multipanel plus point =we believe it is more recyclable being timber based.
Pricing on fully fitted rooms has been similar enough and they have some different colours/effects so we're still offering both and picking the best for a given room.
@@RootsKent Thanks for the info, I have another question; what about installations where you don't know the quality of the substrate until you've removed existing tiles etc.? Are they both as tolerant of poor substrate? For me, I won't remove my tiles until I have the chosen panels and everything to complete the job ready on-site.
Wow what a gem in the sand your video is !!!. Have you found anything better or comparable to Nuance since?
Thank you, glad it was useful 😊
I still like both the multi panel and the nuance. I'm sure there are other panels (someone here mentioned a brand Fibo iirc as similar to multipanel) but I haven't test others.
We do have a new material for shower wall panels.. video coming .. eventually when I have time... it might be a while!, but it's a very different price point. If Nuance is around £500 including fitting (£360ish just panel), this new product is from £1,500 per panel.
@@RootsKent Gratefull for the reply I Time is precious.. RE th panel We all do want the most rhobust !
That plywood panel looks like what Fibo does also. If this is how it looks after 40 days submerged, it's definitely good enough for a wall.
Thanks for the comment, I hadn't heard of Fibo and it looks like a very similar construction
@@RootsKent I’m looking at Fibo in my new property as I had it fitted in my last house. Wish I lived in your area as I’m renovating my bungalow and having a completely new en-suite, bathroom and kitchen, but I live in Lincolnshire. I’m binge watching your videos
Very useful test! I am thinking shower panels and I was thinking about this question if they really robust enough. As you migt get a little nick on the board then it might detoriate from there but it sounds like it will give you enough time to notide the damage and repair. Super work! I suppose plywood if also better for fitting wall acessories (any comments please? ) Many thanks.
For fitting accessories, either Multipanel or Nuance are equal in my opinion (and ideally you'd be fixing to the substrate behind them, like the wall or timbers you put in the right place before you fitted the panels, but for lightweight accessories that won't be pulled on that's not essential)
Hi, thank you for the video. I was wondering, now you have been fitting multipanel for a few years, are you still as impressed, have you had any problems with it? I am in the process of changing from tile to wall panel and I'm down to Nuance or Multipanel!! Thank you in advance :)
Tough choice, but that means you'll be good either way! Pick the one you like most.
Nuance is still more popular for us because of a) the rounded edge b) designer habit when designing and ordering (that's not a great reason for you, just the truth!)
If all things are equal, I think the multipanel wins for me for environmental points and if I was doing my bathroom today I'd be looking at ways to use it over nuance for that reason.
Hi Steve. I am about to wet wall a bathroom with a shower over a bath and wondered if you leave a gap at the bottom of the wet wall or fit it hard down onto the bath. Or perhaps you use a surface trim/seal? Do you use any particular seal behind the wet wall in the same location. Thanks.
I would do this 👇;
- Check the product instructions first in case they have a rule. Some need a trim because of the material they're made of.
- If they don't say anything, a 1-2mm gap to give enough space for the silicon sealant to fill and seal.
- For a seal behind the wet wall at the join between bath and panel, Classi-Seal (manufacturers* web site = waterproofyourbathroom.com/ it's sold in lots of places) will prevent problems if your silicon seal ever fails.
- bonus tip: A bath filled with water often sinks slightly/changes shape so if you fill the bath with water before you seal and leave it full of water until the silicon sets then you reduce the chance of a full bath of water pulling the silicon joint open.
I hope it goes well 🙂
Steve
*Made in Northern Ireland by the same manufacturer as the Senstec anti slip shower tray I talk about here: ua-cam.com/video/g7rL73WIeFg/v-deo.html&t
Wow what a great suggestion so are you saying you should not siicone shower or bath without some weight in it ?
@@diy-fi6jq A bath, yes. Acrylic baths especially are prone to change shape slightly when full of water - maybe not enough to notice but maybe it's 1mm more than your silicon is designed to stretch. Oftentimes you'll be fine if you don't fill it with water - it's just about reducing the probability.
Shower trays don't have the issue, for many years most are solid lumps of concrete/resin so there is no flex (unless the floor is moving... that's a different problem to solve)
Hi I'm looking to re-furb my wet room out of the two products you demode which one would you personally recommend ?. Thanks Mike.
Hi Mike, I'd be happy with either in my own room.
The decision as to which would be based on: Price difference for the colour(s) I like, Edge finish (I like the nuance round edge but that doesn't always work to be useful in a design)
I am in the process of buying some panels but not sure what to buy most of them are 10mm thickness by 1m and laminate or tung and Grove can you advise
Sure, any specific detail that you're working on?
> most of them are 10mm thickness
Yes, that seems to be the sweet spot between being rigid enough to handle whilst being as thin and light weight as possible for distribution and installing.
> by 1m and laminate or tung and Grove can you advise
T&G panels are best when panels have to join to make a longer run. Square edge versions often need joining profiles (sometimes called H profiles) and therefore have more visible joins.
1.2m widths seem to be most common from my experience, but sometimes narrower options like 90cm can save a little money. Nuance have a neat 65cm wide panel that has rounded edges on both sides - useful as a feature behind a basin but also for boxing soil pipes thanks to the round edge
if you got water that reach the wood, then your panel is no longer good. Those panel are waterproof on external and no water should reach the wood.