How to See Triads on Guitar
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2017
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FYI, this sheet is directly from the Berklee College of Music curriculum. It's not confusing once you understand the concept of triads, I promise ;) If you wanna download this chart plus tons of other useful materials, check out Guitar Super System: guitarsupersystem.com
A lot of people in the comments are claiming your explanation is confusing, i wholeheartedly disagree. The explanation is clear as can day when showing the relation between the bass note of your triad as a characteristic of which inversion you are using. Which in my opinion is the practical knowledge associated with using triads in musical context, because knowing which note in your triad is the bass with respect to the inversion you are using allows you to freely change the voicing of your triad. As you can always identify which note is the 1, 3 and 5 instantly based on this knowledge. So i'm having a lot of fun with this right now, thanks a lot for the video. I'm really grateful that this video covered triads in this manor, really didn't expect it to broaden my horizons the way it did.
Music is Win youre the best thanks for teaching/sharing everything you learned from berklee i hope to see more of this thank you so much!!!
...not when "UP" is to the right and "ACROSS" is up, man... Thanks for the explanation, but it should be more intuitive.
When you hold the guitar in the fashion you would to play it the up and across make more sense. But i get what you mean.
Music is Win hey ! I really appreciate what you are doing . Why don't you also create a course about vintage rock,blues,jazz guitar techniques ?
Music theory is just so fascinating. I have really only just started really getting into theory and the more I look the more there is. Thanks
So true
It's not really music theory. It's more how to identify triads on your guitar.
@@chris_sndw so music theory?
@@chris_sndw lmao and that's part of music theory
I think @@chris_sndw Is right. It's not really music theory. You can't really apply this across all instruments. It's really just a guitar specific "trick".
triads are just the three notes that make up any chord. the 1 3 and 5. When Tyler said first inversion that means the 3rd note of whatever chord becomes the root note and the rest fall in the fretboard depending where your at. Second inversion means that the 5th note becomes the root note and the rest come afterwards. it's that simple. if you wanted to go in deeper into you'd have to need a teacher or find books about it. it's basic theory but it works great when your trying to come out of any scale and you want to start experimenting with different sound like blues or rock etc. Great video Tyler I have the exact same chart and I'm self taught.
Umm i dont have a guitar but im interesed. I dont think i get this corect me if im wrong.
We are playing a chord then a nother cord but with the root note G or in other words note G repeats in all the ather cords we play?
@@alvisbajmak6786 explain it briefly pls
Actually, it is in fact the lowest note, but it doesn't really mean that you should call it "root".
You are still playing the same major chord, just another voicing of it (personally, that's the best way I could understand it)
I dont get it 😭
@@alvisbajmak6786 no look here’s an example we’re in the key of G the chords of G is (G,B,D) it’s formula is (1 3 5) and we can use other chords in the key G we can use G A B C D E F# and G all them can become chords in the key of G
I wish I understood a thing you just said but I've only been taking guitar lessons for 6 months but I love you channel
Hey just curious, how's it going now, 3 years later?
Yeah, are you still playing
How is it goin now? I've been playin for about 2 weeks nd i still can't switch chords fast enough
@@xnk8555 its takes practice my guy, switching between open chords will take some time
@@LPJMagicmusic He traded it in for two turntables and a microphone
Bro I’m so glad you’re here man, not only is your channel entertaining and funny but you also take the time to show us all this. Much appreciated man. Definitely gonna try the guitar course! Rather have you than most others 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I understand this fully, however, I can see why it can confuse so many beginners. Sometimes it will naturally take sometime to sink in, and once it does, it becomes quite simple. I suggest opening 10 different videos on the same subject-matter from different channels and watching them . Chances are at least one of them will explain it to your liking. It is also important to triangulate this information. The more sources the better.
Relying solely on one video, or channel is unlikely to produce any results.
correct!
Ya, I think if people are confused it’s because they don’t understand the language of scale degrees and another part where they get tripped up is the concept of multiple octaves still being the same note. I.e “how can the 1 be the highest note?”
This is great advice
I watching like 100 of video and i don't understand ANYTHING
This make me want to quit guitar
I'm really glad you're driving home the triad concept since it lends so much more flexibility than doing everything with barre chords. If you superimpose the notes of the four shapes in the left column, you can see the root and inversions are part of the "A" shape chord. Superimposing the 2nd to left column brings out the "E" shape. The third column is the "D" shape but the root position is slid up a half step making it initially a little confusing. Seeing the chord shapes in there it's easier to find the triads on the neck.
You got A and E columns mixed up?
Taylor!!! You are great. And the quality of your video and audio is great. Clear voice, clear talking, clear playing, clear sound. Thanks so much.
Awesome! This correlates EXACTLY with what we just finished introducing in my Music Theory and Composition class recently. Now I can use this to refer to guitar instead of piano. Great job Tyler!
For all the people complaining about the diagram layout. Just grab your guitar, and start following it the way he showed you how. I think you all will be surprised how logical it is once you actually use it. Turning the guitar/paper on the side would make the chord fingering seem odd, but leaving it as is is seemingly difficult when trying to explain why the terms up and across are used. Just sit behind your PC grab your guitar and try it out and it will be pretty clear why these terms are the way they are and why the layout is the way it is.
What he said. And this will make you learn the notes on the fretboard also. You have an advantage if you already know.
Nope, the complaint, I believe is, he does have the terms backwards on the chart. When he referenced the guitar & labeled that as "up" as he moved down the guitar, he does so because the notes played would be higher on the scale. Hence, the term "up when referencing that direction on the guitar. He then labeled moving "across" the strings themselves from the low E to the high E. Yet on the chart itself moving from the low E to High E is labeled "up" while moving up the neck itself, on the chart is labeled "across".
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He needs to fix the diagram for them to switch on paper, it’s wrong description and hard to figure out if you down know that the paper says across IS UP and UP is ACROSS
And also it’s in regards to the video showcasing the guitar, it doesn’t explain shit, it’s stuck on the wrong chord from the getgo lol
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Music is win!!!!!! you are putting videos up are the perfect time for me and so many other people as well I'm sure, it's crazy!!! keep it up man! and thank you!!!! :)
I agree. 100% of the other triads diagrams found online are setup properly. They follow the same direction on the neck as you would on the sheet. Meaning that when you go "UP" the neck, which means downwards on the guitar neck image, the triad diagrams should point the same direction, which is downwards on the neck image. Doesn't take a genious to at least understand why it can get confusing.
I like everything on the guitar super system except the triads diagrams which I had to find elsewhere..
I mean.. when you have hundreds of people complaining on a very specific point, you can put your blindfolds on and pretend like it's all good, or you can listen to your crowds feedback.
This isn't an efficient disposition. Otherwise nobody would complain.
And before they come again, oh sooo much congratulation to everyone who ended up sticking with the reverse orientation! You have successfully spent more time than necessary processing those pictures until you can fluently use them. You are no superheroes so stop pretending like you are.
Wow that was such a great video! So easy to understand. Turns out I have been using triads and different inversions all along and just never knew it lol. Thank you for all of your videos, my theory has greatly improved since I started watching your videos and signed up for super system.
rewatching this a thousand times...
While I agree that the chart may be confusing at first and understanding that concept is a bit confusing, I find that taking the time to understand it and solving this chart to really get it in your brain makes it clear at the end. It helped me, thanks a lot Tyler!!
This is amazing! So eye opening.
The best dissemination of triads and inversions ever. Thank you...!
@music is win love your videos, you're articulate and to the point. Thank you for that. Would love to hear you get into some bass application theory. Constructing lines, walks, etc. Thanks for what you do!
This has been very helpful; thanks man!
I found your explanation very clear :) thanks for this, once my college admissions end I'll sign up for your course 110%
A major problem with the triad chart as far
as I can see is that the boxes all have a thick line at the top which looks
like the nut, when in fact most of the boxes are supposed to be illustrating
something happening elsewhere on the neck as we go 'up' and 'across'. I agree with all the others saying that UP and
ACROSS would be better the other way around, but if you got rid of all the
thick 'nut' lines (except where you're talking about frets 1 - 5) it might be
less confusing. The way it is now just
doesn't read intuitively. Otherwise, great work! I recently bought the Guitar
Super System course and am finding it very useful.
This makes so much sense. Great explanation.
I needed that! thank you sir! have a great day!
Best lesson on triads, short and simple. Thank you sir.
You're amazing man!
Triads remind me of an asian gang. I roll with the first inversion triads. Yo.
the gta series has the asian gang called triads
The Chinese gang in rush hour is also called triads
Tyler, I have watched this before to no avail. Today, the light bulb went off. My skills have improve since the last time, so I was able to do it and hear it. Thank you.
Thanks to your video I can finally understand triads. Kudos for making it possible for average people to learn guitar through UA-cam.
Thanks Tyler, at the beginning i didn't understand it as well, i had to look to other resources to understand the theory behind it so i can follow you.. (i guess you've rushed it a bit fast, or maybe i am too slow :D)
Any way i've checked the new video and it's EXACTLY what i needed back then, i guess the new guys "students" in your course will not have the same problem now "or any problem"!
thanks man! i really like your stuff!
Of all the videos I have seen on triads this one is the best. Lays it out in something you can see in your head. A+.
Only change I would make is color the root notes red instead of blue. Hard to see.
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Amazing lesson thanks you just taught me really excellent mapping of g triads
This was dope. So useful.
This is very helpful, thank you :D
Great video this was really helpful nice lesson video format
I love this outro music
Excellent lesson!
Just went through this lesson and it was kinda confusing. Perfect timing! Thanks
Amazing!!!! thanks for the lesson :)
Just got my silva skey and my surround sound system. Triads are a must.
I needed this video too
Thanks for the very informative video. I don’t understand the complaints about the chart. It’s a bit confusing at first, but become clear as you go through it.
I think those who can’t understand what is going on might need to watch it again, or maybe they have “skipped ahead” in their study and missed some previous theory like intervals and basic chord construction?
Amazing Video!
I've been thinking about buying. your course for a while now. It's probably worth the full price but when it was this cheap I just had to get it. Quite the bargain and now I'm looking forward to taking my guitar playing to the next level. Thank you for all that you do. :)
Pretty sweet man. Thanks
Youre Awsome !!
The terms make perfect sense to me. It totally is how I would explain it!
I come back here for once in a while whenever i feel like I'm forgeting what i learned
Thank you so much for putting this up. I'm new to your channel. Im 45 & been playing most of my life & consider myself above average player. I don't know anyone where I live that is anywhere near my skill level. I believe this is not due to skill, I believe it has to do with putting the time in & how bad you want to learn. Started off as a Metal player but I had a hunger form more & started learning Classical & Blues & a little jazz. I've been trying to learn damn Triads for the last week or so. But UA-cam is filled with tons of horrible videos that show themselves playing a Triad & you have to pause & rewind over & over trying to figure out what the hell there doing. And where there fingers are at. Time you firgure out which fret there on they have moved to the next chord, this is beyond frustating & a waste of time. I've been watching Rick Beato video's to learn Triads. And he does exactly that. And I find myself practicing something for hours just to realize I been doing it wrong. This is due to no TAB, to me if your going to teach without TAB at least say what string & fret your on or at least what the note is. Not everyone knows what you know. Tried writing in comments about this but I guess he's to big to be botherv with me. Comments are just tons of people brown noising him. I do appreciate what he's done for the community. But that doesn't make him perfect. We are all human & have errors. I just started watching your video & was glad to see TAB. This makes it clear to the student what they should been doing. I know it takes extra time to put that up. But it is so appreciated. And as far as Beato. He's always trying to sell his course's. But if that's the way he teaches I wouldn't spend a penny on them. So thank you again for doing what you do & spreading the love of this instrument. You just got another subscriber & if you teach lessons correctly. I'm sure in time you will surpass Beato. Cheers!
Rick's videos rarely help me with anything! He terrible at teaching things to players that aren't already almost experts. I do like his interviews though lol!
This is what I’ve been looking for I just wanted to understand where the chords are and why, thank you 😂
This is why I come to Music Is Win.
Thanks for the help!!! :D :D
Tyler, I remember in a previous video you said that you never needed a floyd rose, You have one on that Custom 24 that i'll gladly take from you if you want. ;)
You should've rotated the sheet clockwise by 90° and put it in such a way that "Up" was up the guitar and "Across" was across the neck.
Leonard A.L that would make waaaaay too much sense, but don't tell the fanboys.
My thoughts exactly! Or rather Berkley should rotate their sheet, I suppose...👍
Dmitro Grunt oooohhhh, YES! I'm on the same page as pretty much everyone else with the "why is across 'up'" and your comment just snapped it all into context. I still think laying out diagrams like that makes it confusing, but now that I understand why someone would lay it out like that. The chart makes sense. Thanks.
Exactly my thoughts! I shared rotated diagram:
drive.google.com/open?id=0BxrVE9Hiuqd-bFZwOFZMWTN4MGs
See, now THAT's how the chart SHOULD have been made.
Wow. piece of cake!! Holy poop, triads work for me now!!
My mind has been blown
Yes, the diagram's layout is counter intuitive. It's confusing even after listening to your directions on how to read it. I'd have to rewrite your charts to make sense of them.
Okay Jonathon
Gwydion Morris okay gwydion
Jonathon Carter Schall its easy play any of the shapes any were wen your comfortable find were it show good maybe
Cool story bro
Jonathon Carter Schall y not make up up across acrosz
You should check Pat Martino Truefire lessons about 'seeing positions' in the guitar. Basicly all comes of the augmented triaf
this is explained very well ...
This helped me understand how to create inversions moving up the neck by following the 3 notes of the scale (triad), however, I am still confused as to how to move across the strings (low E up to High E.) I get lost moving from Root position across to first and 2nd inversion. I don't get where to put my fingers? Seems like mostly open strings when doing this in the key of G. I wish that the guitar tab only had one labeled at a time with instructions on which fingers to use.
Well taught as always.
No BS
Hey Tyler I really like the channel and have learnt a lot. One thing I've been meaning to learn is reading notation on the guitar. I've used tab before, but am confused by notation eg. If the note is B, do I play 2nd string open or 3rd string 4th fret? Any advice?
Neither, you play 4th string 9th fret... to be serious, it's one of those things that you'll learn from doing... what chord or notes did you play before that B, is that B alone or in a chord, what chord or notes will you play after that B... you will figure out the best and easiest place that works in the overall scheme of things...
Love vids
I was watching this at night and i got up and started trying this out, for some reason it took me a bit to figure out the vertical part until i realised it's the exact same as the other way just different placement lol
It wasn't how you explained it that confused me, it's just different
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You should have 1 million subs Tyler.
Scarpter _ you should be older then 12
Bytrusted, you spelled 'than' wrong.
I would say one meeds just now the shapes and be able to locate the root then by moving root one goes to first and second inversion so knowing notes and root position in each inversion helps drammatically other way i learned from Marty Shwartz is to use caged system and everything can be understood very fast😎
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Each diagram needs to have the fret number at least on the "lower" E string. That would give it perspective.
but it isn't meant to represent a certain position, as long as you follow the roots, or even the fret marker right next to them you won't have a problem
You have more videos of triads broken down like this?
Very helpful.. :) !!!
That diagram should really be orientated the other way. To move across the strings you have to look up/down the page and to move up the neck you have to look across the page. Seems the wrong way round to me
Yeah and the fret locations were not highlited afaik. Kinda weird.. at least you got the photo alongside to clear it up. =)
Okay, in case anybody is confused, he misspoke. He first says that "across" refers to the movement horizontally from the low E to the high E (or vice versa), as in "across the strings", which is correct. But on the sheet he actually writes "across" in the wrong spot. It should have appeared at the bottom of the page pointing left to right (really should be a double headed arrow since either direction is across).
The same is true for "up". He says up means up and down the neck longways, which is true. However, on the sheet he writes it in the wrong place. He should have written it to the right of the diagram with the arrow pointing up and down.
Knowing that information, and realizing that the diagrams are in the same orientation as the guitar in the video, it should be clearer HOW to at least play the shapes.
If the rest of it confuses you, re-watching that part a few times should make it click. If not, I can explain it.
That ah ha! Moment for me. Thanks!
E, A, D. It’s in the GAME!
Very helpful. I like the way you've made the diagrams.
There are a lot more shapes of the major triad. On these graphics lack at least two big positions and it´s inversions. this absence left two big holes between positions. You seems to use just the positions where you can use sweep picking , but the most important we have on this melodic tool is not the sweep licks, is to be able to find chord tones wherever our hands are, sweep licks are cool, but even the positions where we can´t use it , are awesome places to find chord tones and make great melodic phrases. if you ignore positions cos they aren´t sweepables you let big holes on freatboard knowledge. But, besides this point, your grasp on the concept and use of this is cleary correct.
That was the most sudden ending ever 😆
Why is the chart made upside down and sideways? Is this a "common" chart, or something you threw together? I mean, it really does seem like it was made exactly opposite to how it should have been made.
Yeah, I get it now. My mind just sees me holding the guitar vertically (tuning pegs up, body low) and coming "down" the neck to the higher notes, while this chart needs to be viewed going "up" the neck to the higher notes. I was wrong about sideways...that actually made sense to start.
Oh damn... I went to the area where you pointed in the video to get the Guitar SUPER System and could not figure out how to get said system for the stated (and most certainly hugely discounted and worth at least 5-8 times more than full retail list price). Stupid me, I just noticed that the video is a year old. So what is new for me, is old for coupons. Maybe and now that I have subscribed and
I got cut-off before I could properly end my droning message... anyway, now I will keep my eye and ear out for any future deals. Your site rules. Mad respect for you and your Berklee education.
waiting for jazz lessons
Is it necessary to start on the root position? Can we start on one of the intervals instead and just follow the chart from there?
I'm still trying to find the right triad to go with the right chord by ear, I can sweep pick triads and solo the hell out of them and yet I cannot groove with the chords. Ugh.
Do these shapes also apply to minor / diminished chords? Like are they exactly the same?
Any minor triads sheet ? Or should I just look for the 3rd and make it a semitone up ?
I came from your inrerview with Phil!
good video guy (:
root position on the diagram for G tells me to start on the 5th fret? bit confusing but i get it
Unless Im losing my mind the first diagram is the fight fret low e string thus an A , Someone please explain this to me
That's savage. I know all those triads I just didn't know they all worked like that. Jazz players call this smooth voice leading. It's basically playing a tune with the very little movement of the fretitng hand. Nile rodgers does this a lot.
So, up on the neck is across on the chart, and across on the chart is down on the neck?
My head just exploded!
I am a beginner! That is why. I really enjoy watching Tyler. And am going to give G.S.S. A shot. Just frustrated with not being able to navigate. And just copying what I see someone doing. If that makes any since.
I got the super duper cooper guitar system. Is there some list, diagram or cheat sheet for finding the 3rd and 5th of a note? I see the circle of 5th's, which, the 5th is one rotation clockwise, right? where is the 3rd?
oh wait, is that what the numbers on the circle are for? derp derp derpity,
no, because the D is #2 ah man, I am confused.
Are theses positions across all notes or just G major?
is these shapes the same for all chords? A,B,C,D.. etc
is the 10 buck deal still available Tyler?
Ah! Light-bulb moment. Thanks Tyler.
Confused? Yes, I am. Your up and across changed from the way you explained it.
Do you guys do bass stuff aswell or is it just guitar?
If you're interested in bass lessons similar to this guy, I'd recommend Adam Neely.