Thank you for this video. What is that collection of wire behind you on the wall? Vintage barbed wire? Anyway, I'm a subscriber to Pat Puckett's channel and him being into developing bridle horses, there are times when he would need the purchase to bend out away from the horse to accommodate a bosalito in a two rein setup -- as you say. But even in non bridle horse situations, which is most of them LOL, the purpose of the outward bend is to make room for a typical leather headstall to attach to the bit without pressing into the side of the horse's face. I noticed looking at his two rein setup, that if there's a bosalito involved, he attaches the headstall to the bit with a very thin piece of leather or metal, to allow space for the bosalito as well. I have a cool Sliester bit with the scalloped cheeks, but it doesn't have the engraving yours has. That's gorgeous!
Howdy, Everything you put down in the comments is correct. Thanks for taking the time to share your input. I always enjoy the feed back and the sharing of thoughts. Take care and I hope you are enjoying your Sliester bit as much as I do. Cheers - Travis
A cow horse can be in any stage of training to include the bridle horse. A bridle horse is at that the final stage of advanced training in the western tradition. Especially in the style of the Californio tradition. They have either surpassed the snaffle and transition bit process in the cowpuncher tradition or have moved from the hackamore, two rein, to straight up in the bridle process. I hope this helps you. Cheers- Travis
I'm a long-time horsewoman, but I'm new to the western world, so shanks - long vs. short - and terms like "bridle-horse" are new to me. Can you explain what a bridle-horse is? Also, I'm trying to find a gentler bit for a horse I'm leasing. "Jack" is my show horse for the season, and I'll be showing in western pleasure, trail and western riding. The owner has been using a Tom Thumb bit, but the horse has shown that he's in pain and desperate to get away from contact, so I want to try a gentler bit. I've always gone to Myler bits for both Dressage and Hunt Seat, but I'm not sure what would be best as a show bit for Western. Jack is well-trained, and collects under himself when I ride two-handed (though he's clearly very unhappy), but when I'm riding in a Western pleasure class, I can't use both hands. Can you point me in the right direction for where to learn about gentle bit alternatives?
Hi Travis, just a Question...why do horseman who start their horse on a rawhide bosel hackamore once the horse is good in a Bosel, why go into a bit of any type ? Why not just use the bosel hackamore as the horses neck rein and have responses to body cues.
I like this question. Here is the short answer...The hackamore is traditionally a two handed teaching tool used for communication with your horse. During this time, the horse is learning to balance the rider, have the rider move the horses different body parts through the use of the natural aids ( legs, seat and other skeletal parts of the riders body), and introduce cues. The next step is to be able to introduce the two rein setup to the horse in order to use a bridge of communication between the bosal and the signal bit. Notice I didn't say leverage bit. With the final step being a bridle bit. The bridle bit is only ridden one handed so a rider can use a lariat rope or a cow whip to handle livestock. No different than the older days of riders, having to use one hand to swing a sword or a lance in warfare. Now, if a rider doesn't want to progress to a bit and is happy just riding in a hackamore? More power to them. I know that for myself that I want added communication and peace of mind when riding one handed. I hope this helps. Videos will be made in the future. Cheers-TE
@ellistonequinesolutions3795 Very good explanation. Thank you ! I ride in a short shank hack, on trails and always wondered why others don't. Your explanation was simple and now I know, and respect .. why cowboys use bits. Brilliant!❤
Question: at 6:52 you demonstrate a horse holding onto the bit by putting your hand over the top of the bit and holding it. You aren't suggesting that the horse puts his tongue over the bit, are you?
That is up to the riders discretion. Can you effectively move all parts of the horses body (head/neck, hind end, front end and rib cage) can you control the horse at a walk, trot and canter, can you stop a horse with ease, can you do leg yield etc... Also, depends on what direction you are taking the horse. Example of two different techniques, such as moving to a hackamore (classical buckaroo style) or to a level 2 transition bit (cowpuncher or performance style). A level 2 transition bit is nothing more than a broken mouth piece that has shanks added to the bit. This helps a horse to have the confidence of snaffle bit but at the same time, start to introduce the feel of a leverage bit. With the end state of riding a western (curb) bit. Now just going off of a time frame... I would say that you're ready to move up into a different bit. Cheers-TE
I bought my first sleister around 1980-81. today, I have three and still prefer them over any other bit.
Thank you kindly for the input and sharing your thoughts.-TE
Thank you for this video. What is that collection of wire behind you on the wall? Vintage barbed wire? Anyway, I'm a subscriber to Pat Puckett's channel and him being into developing bridle horses, there are times when he would need the purchase to bend out away from the horse to accommodate a bosalito in a two rein setup -- as you say. But even in non bridle horse situations, which is most of them LOL, the purpose of the outward bend is to make room for a typical leather headstall to attach to the bit without pressing into the side of the horse's face. I noticed looking at his two rein setup, that if there's a bosalito involved, he attaches the headstall to the bit with a very thin piece of leather or metal, to allow space for the bosalito as well. I have a cool Sliester bit with the scalloped cheeks, but it doesn't have the engraving yours has. That's gorgeous!
Howdy, Everything you put down in the comments is correct. Thanks for taking the time to share your input. I always enjoy the feed back and the sharing of thoughts. Take care and I hope you are enjoying your Sliester bit as much as I do. Cheers - Travis
Thanks for the video!
Wish I could come across one of them bits.
Knowing my luck those are Discontinued.
But I'll keep on looking.
Nice , Appreciate it.
What's the difference between a cow horse and a bridle horse?
A cow horse can be in any stage of training to include the bridle horse. A bridle horse is at that the final stage of advanced training in the western tradition. Especially in the style of the Californio tradition. They have either surpassed the snaffle and transition bit process in the cowpuncher tradition or have moved from the hackamore, two rein, to straight up in the bridle process. I hope this helps you. Cheers- Travis
So the bit you had on this video would never be used on a bridle horse?@@ellistonequinesolutions3795
Three bars , foundation quarter horse ( JOCKEY CLUB THOROUGHBRED )
I'm a long-time horsewoman, but I'm new to the western world, so shanks - long vs. short - and terms like "bridle-horse" are new to me. Can you explain what a bridle-horse is? Also, I'm trying to find a gentler bit for a horse I'm leasing. "Jack" is my show horse for the season, and I'll be showing in western pleasure, trail and western riding. The owner has been using a Tom Thumb bit, but the horse has shown that he's in pain and desperate to get away from contact, so I want to try a gentler bit. I've always gone to Myler bits for both Dressage and Hunt Seat, but I'm not sure what would be best as a show bit for Western. Jack is well-trained, and collects under himself when I ride two-handed (though he's clearly very unhappy), but when I'm riding in a Western pleasure class, I can't use both hands. Can you point me in the right direction for where to learn about gentle bit alternatives?
Hi Travis, just a Question...why do horseman who start their horse on a rawhide bosel hackamore once the horse is good in a Bosel, why go into a bit of any type ? Why not just use the bosel hackamore as the horses neck rein and have responses to body cues.
I like this question. Here is the short answer...The hackamore is traditionally a two handed teaching tool used for communication with your horse. During this time, the horse is learning to balance the rider, have the rider move the horses different body parts through the use of the natural aids ( legs, seat and other skeletal parts of the riders body), and introduce cues. The next step is to be able to introduce the two rein setup to the horse in order to use a bridge of communication between the bosal and the signal bit. Notice I didn't say leverage bit. With the final step being a bridle bit. The bridle bit is only ridden one handed so a rider can use a lariat rope or a cow whip to handle livestock. No different than the older days of riders, having to use one hand to swing a sword or a lance in warfare. Now, if a rider doesn't want to progress to a bit and is happy just riding in a hackamore? More power to them. I know that for myself that I want added communication and peace of mind when riding one handed. I hope this helps. Videos will be made in the future. Cheers-TE
@@ellistonequinesolutions3795 thank you for clearing this up. Travis
@ellistonequinesolutions3795 Very good explanation. Thank you ! I ride in a short shank hack, on trails and always wondered why others don't. Your explanation was simple and now I know, and respect .. why cowboys use bits. Brilliant!❤
Question: at 6:52 you demonstrate a horse holding onto the bit by putting your hand over the top of the bit and holding it. You aren't suggesting that the horse puts his tongue over the bit, are you?
Nope, that would be the top of the mouth also known as the palate (roof of the mouth). Cheers - Travis
My gelding is 5 and he has been rode in a snaffle bit since he was 2 I believe, when should I transition into this western bit?
That is up to the riders discretion. Can you effectively move all parts of the horses body (head/neck, hind end, front end and rib cage) can you control the horse at a walk, trot and canter, can you stop a horse with ease, can you do leg yield etc... Also, depends on what direction you are taking the horse. Example of two different techniques, such as moving to a hackamore (classical buckaroo style) or to a level 2 transition bit (cowpuncher or performance style). A level 2 transition bit is nothing more than a broken mouth piece that has shanks added to the bit. This helps a horse to have the confidence of snaffle bit but at the same time, start to introduce the feel of a leverage bit. With the end state of riding a western (curb) bit. Now just going off of a time frame... I would say that you're ready to move up into a different bit. Cheers-TE
@@ellistonequinesolutions3795 thank you, I would like to move into a hackamore but I’m not really sure about how and the size of a bosal that I need.