Funny how none of the Ladies of "insert place here" could be bothered to protect the children from the predatory priests of the order that created them.
The message is the utter absurdity of religion. The only research which could be valid is simply documenting the vast numbers, types, and degrees of silliness of religions. Otherwise, the contents of the religions themselves warrant no research toward their validity no more than researching the life and times of Mickey Mouse.
When you see a guy parading around in a silly costume with a pointy hat, carrying a stick, slinging water and acting like he's doing something of importance, you need to stay far away from that guy. You definitely don't want to do be doing what he says. One would think that would be obvious to everyone; but it's not.
The guys we should really be staying away from are the militant atheists Dawkins, Krauss, Harris, Shermer, Maher, Coyne, Fry etc. ALL of them support Israel even as it commits genocide. Moral degenerates. At least the Pope speaks out against the slaughter.
@@roberthill799 Now that is a silly generalisation. Everybody is free to do as he or she wishes. And I do what I think is right anyway. By the way,there are also a lot of idiots active in the science community..
Tit for tat: a people create a God-- that is the Tit-- . God's grateful recognition of the honor conferred on Him is to declare His creators the "Chosen People"-- this is the Tat-- . The number one theological issue is thus reduced to a mundane business transaction. So much for theology!
I have long believed that God is actually a spray can of WD-40. I have recently come to learn, however, that there are some who believe that RP7 is God. Heretics!
Proove that ! And then start thinking about what the concept of God might mean,instead of denying it to start off with. However,thinking intelligently is not everybodys thing,including scientists.
Very nice, but I believe the point of religion is that what is known is only revealed by divine revelation, justified by supernatural miracles and consequently the nature of God is beyond human reason and understanding.
*A Question for Christians* Christians claim that there is only one true god. This one and true god is the god of the bible. Jesus is the son of this one true god, but Jesus is one and the same as the god of the bible. After all there are not two gods, are there? Add to this the holy spirit, and now we have the Trinity, 3 entities in one comprising the one true god. So whether we call it god, or Jesus, we are talking about the one and only entity that is god. Thus having been said, we look at the deeds of this one true god (Jesus). This god, Jesus, drowned almost all the people of earth including millions of infants and babies, burned two cities full of children, cast plagues on entire nations murdering thousands of babies and children, ordered genocide for entire tribes, but allowed the young virgins to live and made them available for mass rape. Are we still talking about the one true god? If yes, does this god have a split personality, one good side and one evil side? Is the good side unaware of the actions of the evil side? The question is: Why do Christians worship and pray to such a genocidal maniac? I would love to have an answer.
Do you understand the concept of the absolute? Do you understand the concept of the source of moral law. If you are capable of understand this you will comprehend that God is not under any law.
@@eus38ioindeed because a god does not exist in reality but only as a concept in the minds of very gullible people who are in more than 99 % of the cases deeply indoctrinated from childhood on with all that supernatural nonsense of the specific religion of their parents and their community!
@@eus38io There is no absolute moral law. Each society determines its own moral laws. Moral laws differ from society to society. Moral laws also change within a society over time. Moral laws are strictly a human invention, no god is involved or necessary.
Water, ice, steam. All three are water. And at the triple point, all three can exist simultaneously. I don’t understand why the Trinity confuses people.
Where were the 3 wise men of the Trinity when their archangel Lucifer rebelled against their holy Trinity in heaven and even managed to convince some heavenly angels to join him in his rebellion? How could all the three have been asleep when the revolt was happeng? Religion is for the uncritical mind.
Hinduism and Buddhism are like this on steroids. God is everything, he is us, he is the universe, he is everywhere and nowhere, formless, but he was also a mighty morphin elephant for a while and presumably still is sometimes.
@@Wanderingsomewhere145 Not a whole lot, no. But the reason why I threw in Buddhism with Hinduism is because they’re related and Buddhism tells us that we’re in a state of Samsara, but Buddhism is the path to Nirvana. I think I’m right so far? But then some of them say that Samsara is in a way Nirvana as well so it gets into that circular, vague reasoning along with the Catholic idea of the trinity and the Hindu idea of God being an entity but also formless and also us.. And it’s tricky to talk about Hinduism because I only know a little bit about it and there’s many interpretations of it. If that makes sense? Because it shouldn’t. Because it’s religion.
Why is it so important to guys like Dawkins to prove he is right about something that everyone knows can't be proved? Let it go and move on to something more meaningful.
@DanielRochester800 That is only in the KJB. In other versions, for example the English Standard Bible, 1 John 5:7-8 reads: For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree. No way to infer anything like a Trinity from that, even at a stretch. Only the King James and versions that are based on it give such embellished translations.
Wasn't he saying that protests against Israel are "antisemitic"? How can an atheist say such stupid things? But here he is right, Trinity makes no sense.
There's a very interesting article on this matter titled "Et tu, Dawkins? You refuse religion but support Israel?". Apparently many "rationalist" atheists, such as Maher and Harris, support Israel out of a loathing of Islam. They claim that the democratic Israel stands for peace and the Islamic rest stands for violence and oppression. That's their words. In my opinion, the occupation of foreign land represents violence and oppression, not peace!
@DanielRochester800 I need the citation by Dawkins himself. I don't care about some article. Can you tell me when & where Dawkins said that and what exactly are his words?
@@radufefceac He accused student protestors of antisemitism at some panel event last year. Here's the best I could find: x.com/DueDissidence/status/1786941037841133886
_There is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate._ -Stephen Hawking *_1_* Genesis 1:27 tells us God created man in his own image. No. Man created God in his own image. The self invented God, heaven, hell, eternity, purgatory, limbo, etc, because it knows it will end when the body dies. The self is also called the ego, the me, the I, self-pity, self-image, self-importance, self-centeredness, self-aggrandizement. *_2_* Glass sponges live up to 15,000 years and mayflies up to one day. Where do they go when they die? *_3_* The root of unhappiness and most problems is the self. *_4 Without love and sense of humor there is unhappiness and life is meaningless._* 💕☮🌎🌌
I am Not Sure what Professor Dawkins Point is. Ancient Writings Reflect the Times when they Occurred. Hence if You want to Fully Understand Something Written in the 3rd Century You have to Find out All the Other Facts of that Time. Then Read.
@@chrisgriffiths2533 The problem is that the message of these third century writings is still believed, not that the existence of the third century writings is believed. Of course the third century happened.
@DanielRochester800 Do You Acknowledge You have No in Person Experience of the 3rd Century, Nor does Professor Dawkins ?. Therefore Most of the 3rd Century is Unknown to Professor Dawkins, but Thanks to a Catholic You Know Some of Them we're Thinking and Writing ?.
Christianity is founded on a Sumerian/Bronze Age fable about a barenaked lady taking dietary advice from a chatty snake. Suuuure, makes perfect sense. Lol.
Not into the whole Catholic thing myself but why would you spend all your time and your whole life trying to tear something down when if you're so certain of yourself, and your point, promote it. If you were truly convinced of what you believe, you don't need to try to destroy what someone else believes.
The atheist cause is the same as any other social cause. Dawkins perceives religion as a destructive force; why wouldn't he campaign against it? Likewise, there are people who campaign against racism and fascism.
"One cannot wonder why she did not guide it to xxxx him altogether". Can someone transcribe the word for me, I can't understand it (not native English speaker here).
Someone asked me what my plans were for the new year. I said “Well, I have a dream” excitedly she asked, “what? what is it?” I said “in a couple of weeks I’ll be celebrating MLK day” and proceeded to recite the “I have a dream speech” Instantly she interrupted me with “Oh! That’s just leftist propaganda” I walked away continuing reciting. Louder. I love that speech!!! It caresses my soul. Gives me hope. I recite it every opportunity.
Instead of reading this in front of a public unfamiliar with these questions you could have easily organize a debate with people understanding these things, although here is not about an understanding in the cartezian way.My ""understanding"" is that God has three persons and it is nothing to understand , it is a mystery. However,the closest thing for very analytical people is to think at three masks.Faith and practice of religion help.
Although we can´t say if there is a God-like or sometring akin to that, from our un-advantage point of view in the fringes of a 3erd class galaxy, with only a tiny fraction of time living on Earth, for the same reason IT couldn´t have created us at HIS IMAGE, for Heavens sake!
It's easy to apply human logic to God, but that is Dawkins error. He questions God, forgetting that God is the creator of all things and is capable of all things. God has chosen to be represented by the Holy Trinity, and whatever Dawkins says cannot change that.
God, being omnipotent and omniscient have no need of all this fancy footwork! He is not schizophrenic. He has no need for multiple personalities nor manifestations! He is no egotist and does not need you to worship HIM! HE is all encompassing. You are but an atom in his creation! In the beginning…. MAN was created by GOD. Now, in the end GOD is created by MAN!
I am not a Catholic. But what a stuffed shirt this Dawkins character is or was. My question to him and all those in the audience who found his comments humorous is how do you know the unknowable?? I don't imagine you have a direct phone line to the afterlife, so how can you with any credibility comment on any religion that others believe in. Shame on you!
He's not claiming to know anything unknowable. It's theists who are making up ridiculous stories about gods and creations instead of honestly investigating the true nature of the universe.
@@roberthill799 I'm not religious. But in my opinion denying the existence of anything with surety is the same thing as making up stories about gods and creation. And I would not call them ridiculous as they mean a great deal to different cultures around the world.
If anyone's laughter is pleasing, I'd say that's much more sane than what pleases the pious. Namely, the utter delight you take in the thought of fellow humans being mercilessly tortured by your god eternally.
"Go ahead laugh at us if it pleases you." - Well, the natural tendency, when someone says something that is clearly absurd, is to laugh. And a lot about religion, especially the Catholic religion, is absurd. Take for example, transubstantiation. We are led to believe that when the priest blesses crackers and wine, they turn into the actual flesh and blood of Christ. Obviously, the priest needs to say the appropriate blessing (the Catholic version of Abracadabra) in order to effect this transmogrification. Really? Do people ACTUALLY believe this nonsense in the 21st century. (Apparently, they do.) To adapt a well know expression, if it looks like a cracker, smells like a cracker and tastes like a cracker, it probably (certainly) is a cracker. Same goes for the wine. And you're wondering why we laugh? Note that this is different to the Protestant Church, where the crackers and wine are merely symbolic of the fresh and blood of Christ, which I understand and respect. And then of course, we've got stories about Jesus walking on water. That's also absurd until you realise that either the water must be frozen or that there must be rocks just beneath the surface.
I will have to agree with you here, Sir. It is absurd to claim that something can come from nothing-a mathematical impossibility. However, I do not believe that a divine creator resolves the issue of how matter came to be, as we would then have to suppose how the creator came to be. My best guess is that some substance-be it matter or energy-had to have always existed. We may not be able to understand it, but it is the best we have.
@DanielRochester800 Only those who are totally ignorant of science would claim a universe from nothing. The universe formed 13.8 billion years ago when quantum fluctuations caused the Singularity to expand. The Singularity existed in different form in perpetuity.
One God three Persons, not three gods in one or One God three parts. God is not made up of parts, or devisible into parts God is not a multitude of gods God is One. One God three persons, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. Everyone who is a Christian is a Saint. Philippians 4:21-23 Salute every saint in Christ Jesus. The brethren which are with me greet you. All the saints salute you, chiefly they that are of Caesar's household. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. Saint just simply means holy, sanctafied or set apart all of which Christ people are, all saints pray for eachother we intercede for one another here on earth and also in heaven. I know this may seem complicated but it is! its like trying to understand infinity or the big bang. How you get tripped up over three persons one God but not something out of nothing or what was before the big bang is beyond comprehension! Maybe everything is just too complicated for Richard Dawkins who is also confused about before the big bang he believes. "We are not physicists. I, like you, am completely baffled by what physicists say to me, that you cannot use the word “before” for before the Big Bang. Time began at the Big Bang. Now that is counterintuitive to me. It’s counterintuitive to you. It’s counterintuitive to Stephen Meyer. But we are not physicists. And you need to talk to a physicist. Talk to a physicist about that."
Thank you for your feedback, as usual. If I may, I'd like to offer my opinion on these points. 1) Regarding the Trinity, we must clarify two facts: firstly, that God is not fragmented into parts or manifestations or symbols: he is One, and secondly, that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. But these two facts contradict each other. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit cannot be God (singular), as this would mean that there are manifestations/parts of God, which is false, and they also cannot be gods (plural), as this would leave multiple gods, which is also false. Please let me know if I'm missing something here. 2) Regarding sainthood, it is true that all in Christ in saints. Then why does the Catholic Church go through the ceremony of appointing certain devoted individuals to sainthood, if all devoted individuals are saints? The process is therefore a recognition of exceptional saints, but it is absurd to claim that some saints are better than others. This is from the National Catholic Register: "All in heaven are saints. In fact, Paul calls all believers saints (holy ones)." Something must be wrong with the Catholic establishment. 3) Regarding your correlation of Catholic complexities with scientific complexities... we need to stop blending science with religion. They have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Science is the effort to understand the natural world (basically, the Universe) through empirical means; religion is the effort to understand the supernatural world through faith. There is nothing scientific about religion; is it based on observation? No; does it involve testing? No; is it built on rationality? No, it is built on ancient human attempts to understand their surroundings without there being any reason to think thus. We used to believe that rain is the product of a blessing, and now we know that this is not true. Yet, many of us still think that everything within the Universe is the work of a Creator. Now, if we are talking about how or why there is a Universe, this is a philosophical question-not a scientific one-of which religion can play a part. However, in any discussion about science, religion cannot be mentioned.
@DanielRochester800 Ok lots of stuff. 1 yes you're missing the concept. Understand that nothing in real life is close to the concept of the trinity but we have similarities God is one in essense/being three in persons. For example a small concept that we get in Genesis is in the creation of mankind. Eve is made from Adam so together they make One flesh but are two different persons they are the same (what) yet different (whos), how? Under Humankind (Adam) there is man and woman both are human yet each have different roles "persons". This is a poor example to understand our beutiful triune God. Second the ultimate autorithy is the bible alot of people don't understand that so you have confused people like Dawkins going "what is going ooon soo hard soo difficult!" and people say "yes dawkins is smart what is going on! If he being so smart and doesn't know we for sure can't know!" They think "I just go to church! church teach me!" And never read the bible for themselves or truly devote time to understanding what we believe for example the concept of the trinity. If you ask most christians "can you explain the trinity?" they will just say "the trinity is three in one!" and you will ask them what does that mean? "Gee I don't know one three and three one something something I'm a Christian!" so sad. This brings me to my last thing religion is based on rationality that just goes to show the ignorance of people and science is not based solely on observation, have you observed life coming from materials? No. Have you observed the universe begenning from nothing? No. Our faith is in God and that the bible is His breathed out words. So don't think we shut our eyes. What we disagree on are these things, we believe God created everything, how? when? science can tell us (through the context of the bible since this is our ultimate authority). What we don't believe is when they say that because of these things there is no God.
@@TheWordIsLife-r1f We have come to the same usual talking points and, perhaps, we may never harmonize our opinions. All I will say is that whenever science points the one way and religion the other, by virtue of being a rigorous process, science must prevail. The same can't be said of philosophy and, in fact, religion can be considered a variant of philosophy. So questions about the origins of the universe, which science cannot understand, can be debated between philosophy and religion.
@DanielRochester800 Fair. There is a whole world aside from the obserbable like morality, it needs to go back to the days where religion figured out how to get to heaven and science how the heavens worked these two operate in different planes. Did you get better understanding to my other points like the trinity?
Actually the trinity is unscriptual, never is the trinity even mentioned in the bible, there is only one God JEHOVAH, and his son Jesus christ, with regard to the true GOD JEHOVAH, evolutionists, those who mock and deny JEHOVAH GODS existence, will very soon find out about ( polite bit straight to the point comment, to those who mock and deny JEHOVAH GODS existenc) 💯
Isn’t it the height of arrogance for someone like Richard Dawkins to critique the teaching of the Catholic Church? The one who suggested the theory known as the Big Bang, was a Belgian Priest Father George Lemaitre. No one challenges his scientific theory, but Richard Dawkins ridicules his faith and theology. I often think no one could be an atheist after listening to Leonard Bernstein’s recording of Mozart’s Ave Verum. I prefer to believe in God as an explanation for the genius of Mozart, than that his existence is pure chance as Dawkins would have it.
Your belief is just a belief unless you can provide evidence that the object of your belief exists. You can't, so why should your belief be taken seriously?
The position of mr. Dawkins has some significant philosophical gaps. And so do the positions of religious people. For instance, where does consciousness come from ? Humanity is in a very interesting rut on which it is heaven to contemplate. As long as we let each other live in peace, I'm not one to deny anyone the right to hypotheses concerning any life philosophy of any human being on this planet. But leave each other be !!
Let us be honest. That man said a lot, but he did not say anything, that could be some other way to understand meaning of The Holy Trinty. That was just a claster of messy thoughts and mockery.
@@matswessling6600 The point is, that The Holy Trinity is mostly impossible to understand for us, folk, since of our bordered minds. By the way, The Holy Trinity was mentioned in The Holy Bible, in The Book of Genesis.
@@TheMotz55 If we think Catholicism is wrong, we have a right to call out its errors. Saying otherwise equates to limiting debate and political discourse. As long as its civil, we can debate the merits of any religion.
@@Chris-hf2sl Well, anything that is believed by billions worldwide must be taken seriously. We can't say that religion has no merit, but it also bears a lot of blotches.
*POPE v GOD* - It's very important to remember that we can't earn our way to Heaven. Salvation is a FREE gift by grace through faith. Let's never forget that the precious BLOOD of Jesus Christ cleans us from ALL sin which means there is NOTHING that can be added to improve the one time FINISHED redemptive work of Jesus Christ on the cross. Acts 10:43 & Ephesians 2:8-9 & Hebrews 10:10-14.
A theologian can think that through faith he can know the unseen invisible to human senses. Faith by its very definition is belief without evidence. So they only believe that they can know.
Dawkins is kinda dumb on theological matters. I wish he hadn’t opened his mouth on behalf of Atheists and stuck to what he knows best, evolutionary biology.
@matswessling6600 your counter example is trash. Comparing theology to homeopathy is not sufficient a comparison to claim any reasonable person can deny or affirm it. philosophy is a field distinct from biology enough to warrant a new knowledge. Dawkins does not have that knowledge. Philosophy of religion is a distinct field. He shouldn’t open his mouth.
@JohnWerner-te5zy The field of philosophy of religion and theology has a lot of worthy discussions. Even if you participate in the arguments for or against gods existence. I am just saying Dawkins is dumb about these because it is a field that has been thought about and he supposes because he knows biology he knows philosophy of religion. He doesn’t.
@@danielmcdermott3558 "philosophy" is kind of vague to bring up here. What do you mean by "theology"? Do you mean theology in the sociological/psycological sense as "why is religion" or what do you mean? give specific example of where dawkins wrote pr said something stupid about theology.
Yet there is zero contemporary evidence to show that he even existed. Yahweh was originally a Levantine deity and one of 70 children of the god El. The 10 commandments were stolen from the Egyptian book of the dead, Moses never existed and the exodus never happened. The Noah story was plagiarised from the Epic of Gilgamesh and no one even knows who wrote the gospels. The church just assigned names to these anonymous texts according to their tradition.
@@liamoconnell8354you are an example of blind faith. Your parents and many around you in your community believed in this without questioning so you believe in this without questioning because you are afraid of admitting the truth that it was all for nothing.
If that so then stupidity is shared with those who believe in Quantum Mechanics, multiverse, superposition, and entanglement. All this involves biology and then Dawkings. Welcome to the stupidity of your world, mister 😂😂
Quantum mechanics is built on evidence and logic and has been largely confirmed to be true. The Bible was written before science even existed, and we're meant to trust the Bible to explain reality?
Dawkins is a dinosaur much like Daniel Dennett was. Has said nothing new in the last half century, and really has nothing to add but his own cynicism regarding Nature and Life, which still remains quite a mystery.
@jamenta2 Cynical? He's as far from cynical as one can be. His lectures and writing brim with enthusiasm and wonder. You just don't like the fact that he effectively calls out your brand of bullsh*t.
@@roberthill799 "my brand of bullsh*t" lol - yeah, that's not cynical. Whatever dude. As Kant once wrote: "Skepticism is thus a resting-place for human reason, where it can reflect upon its dogmatic wanderings." And believe me, Dawkins has never ever been close to the level of reasoning of an Immanuel Kant.
It just goes to show that Richard Dawkins doesn’t understand the Trinity. If you try and look at philosophical or theological concept scientifically, it’s not going to work. It’s 3 persons that share a single divine nature. Believe it to exist or not, it does make sense. His mockery is pretty funny though, even if I am a modestly practising Catholic.
The Trinity is said to be a mystery beyond human reasoning, impossible for us to understand or explain. It is the biggest obstacle to becoming a Christian and knowing God, is understanding the Trinity. Yet, the Trinity is simple and very easy to understand, if you know one thing. Jesus said; “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him who sent me. 17 If anyone desires to do His will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or I speak of my own originality. 18 Whoever speaks of his own originality is seeking his own glory; . . .” (John 7:16-18) How can it not be from Jesus, if he is part of a Trinity? Jesus’ authority to forgive sins was given to him by God. “However, in order for you to know that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins-” then he said to the paralytic: “Get up, pick up your stretcher, and go to your home.” And he got up and went to his home. When the crowds saw this, they were struck with fear, and they glorified God, who gave such authority to men.” (Matthew 9:6-8) Did Jesus Deny Being God in Mark 10:18? Yes, he did. ““Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God.” (Mark 10:18) Jesus was referring to what the OT stated, “For you, O Jehovah, are good . . .” (Psalm 86:5)
Jesus states that his Father is his God, Jesus worships his Father as God. “Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”” (John 20:17) You don’t worship someone you are equal to, nor do you worship yourself. If this was true, then why does the Father never worship or pray to Jesus? The Father has authority over Jesus just as a husband has authority over his wife. “But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3) If you have a head or boss, you are not equal to them. How does this work with Jesus? Jesus will subject himself to his Father. “But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.” (1 Corinthians 15:28) If you subject yourself to someone’s authority, you are not equal in authority to them. How can two members of the Trinity have different levels of authority, while the third member, the Holy Spirit seems to have none and is never even pictured as having a body? Can Jesus be both God and the mediatory between God and men? “. . .For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all-. . .” (1 Timothy 2:5, 6) “. . .Now there is no mediator when just one person is involved, but God is only one.” (Galatians 3:20) Why did Paul write both verses? Why did he not explain it in light of the Trinity? These are very complex questions with a very simple answer that is so obvious once you know it. This answer is staring you in the face it is so simple. Just think about it, what did a Jew have to accept and believe to become a Christian? It was only one thing.
“Peter said to them: “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins,. . .” (Acts 2:38) “. . .God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.”” (Acts 2:36) All a Jew had to do was accept Jesus as the promised messiah. The word ‘messiah’ means anointed, as in anointed to become king. The Jews just had to accept Jesus as the king in the kingdom promised by God. They did not have to learn about or believe in the Trinity. Which is why Jesus never gave a sermon on the Trinity, why he never even mentioned it or explained it. No one in the Bible ever does. The Trinity is an impossible mystery until you unlock the secret of it, that makes it very easy to understand, the Trinity is a lie. It is a false doctrine. That is why it is not in the Bible. Why would the Bible explain something that doesn’t exist? Once you understand this simple solution to the mystery of the Trinity, it is like the scales falling from Paul’s eyes after he accepted Jesus as the promised messiah. With this understanding, it makes understanding God and scripture so much clearer and easier. Suddenly it is like you can see for the first time and everything makes sense when unsolvable mysteries beyond human understanding suddenly pop like a soap bubble and you wonder why you didn’t see it sooner.
@@JohnWerner-te5zy Yes, correct, the Trinity doctrine is indeed 'Bunkum!" that is why it is said to be a mystery. It is a mystery why any one believes it when the Bible exposes it as a lie.
Yes, it's very easy to understand once you abandon all logic and common sense. It's the same thing with Father Christmas - how does he visit all the world's children in a single night to deliver all those presents? Simple - he travels at 2.7 times the speed of light and his sleigh is capable of holding several billion presents. I must admit though, I've never understood why his beard doesn't get black when he climbs down the chimney.
Funny how none of the Ladies of "insert place here" could be bothered to protect the children from the predatory priests of the order that created them.
Afghanistan? 🇦🇫
@aclark903 That is an entirely different festering pile of religious stupidity.
The old predatory priest argument.
@@joedez454 It's not an argument, It is fact!!!
The message is to do research. Don't believe simply because someone told you. Otherwise Thor is just as valid as any other god.
Oh he definitly is as "valid" as any other god!
that's right, research if Thor, Zeus, and the Great Juju of the Mountain are real, before rejecting them. lol
Do you believe anything because people told you?
The message is the utter absurdity of religion. The only research which could be valid is simply documenting the vast numbers, types, and degrees of silliness of religions. Otherwise, the contents of the religions themselves warrant no research toward their validity no more than researching the life and times of Mickey Mouse.
@@tomgreene1843 if what they tell me is fantastic, of course i'm doubtful.
When you see a guy parading around in a silly costume with a pointy hat, carrying a stick, slinging water and acting like he's doing something of importance, you need to stay far away from that guy. You definitely don't want to do be doing what he says. One would think that would be obvious to everyone; but it's not.
I don't even want his funky priest water splashing on me 😂
The guys we should really be staying away from are the militant atheists Dawkins, Krauss, Harris, Shermer, Maher, Coyne, Fry etc. ALL of them support Israel even as it commits genocide. Moral degenerates. At least the Pope speaks out against the slaughter.
WHO do you imply here ?..
It applies to any Catholic cleric of rank, from bishops to pope.
@@roberthill799 Now that is a silly generalisation. Everybody is free to do as he or she wishes.
And I do what I think is right anyway.
By the way,there are also a lot of idiots active in the science community..
This true for all religions. Not Christianity in particular. This is the way our minds work.
Tit for tat: a people create a God-- that is the Tit-- . God's grateful recognition of the honor conferred on Him is to declare His creators the "Chosen People"-- this is the Tat-- . The number one theological issue is thus reduced to a mundane business transaction. So much for theology!
@carlosturriago2512
What have you got against Tit? I've been worshiping them all my life!
There's only one 3-in-1 worth having, and that's the one for fixing squeaky hinges.
Jaw hinges of apologetics.
I have long believed that God is actually a spray can of WD-40. I have recently come to learn, however, that there are some who believe that RP7 is God. Heretics!
I so admire this man, so clever, so human, so decent, so right.
The only "Gods" are in people's imagination.
stupidity of christianity is main reason why islam is becoming stronger
the only imaginations are in God’s making
the air that you breath is from God, you yourself are the solid evidence of God's existence.
Proove that ! And then start thinking about what the concept of God might mean,instead of denying it to start off with. However,thinking intelligently is not everybodys thing,including scientists.
Which God??
Very nice, but I believe the point of religion is that what is known is only revealed by divine revelation, justified by supernatural miracles and consequently the nature of God is beyond human reason and understanding.
*A Question for Christians*
Christians claim that there is only one true god. This one and true god is the god of the bible. Jesus is the son of this one true god, but Jesus is one and the same as the god of the bible. After all there are not two gods, are there? Add to this the holy spirit, and now we have the Trinity, 3 entities in one comprising the one true god.
So whether we call it god, or Jesus, we are talking about the one and only entity that is god. Thus having been said, we look at the deeds of this one true god (Jesus). This god, Jesus, drowned almost all the people of earth including millions of infants and babies, burned two cities full of children, cast plagues on entire nations murdering thousands of babies and children, ordered genocide for entire tribes, but allowed the young virgins to live and made them available for mass rape.
Are we still talking about the one true god? If yes, does this god have a split personality, one good side and one evil side? Is the good side unaware of the actions of the evil side? The question is: Why do Christians worship and pray to such a genocidal maniac? I would love to have an answer.
Do you understand the concept of the absolute? Do you understand the concept of the source of moral law. If you are capable of understand this you will comprehend that God is not under any law.
@@eus38ioindeed because a god does not exist in reality but only as a concept in the minds of very gullible people who are in more than 99 % of the cases deeply indoctrinated from childhood on with all that supernatural nonsense of the specific religion of their parents and their community!
@@eus38io Sort of like Putin.
@@eus38io
There is no absolute moral law. Each society determines its own moral laws. Moral laws differ from society to society. Moral laws also change within a society over time. Moral laws are strictly a human invention, no god is involved or necessary.
@@eus38io I was taught not to worship tyrants.
Water, ice, steam. All three are water. And at the triple point, all three can exist simultaneously. I don’t understand why the Trinity confuses people.
Wow, that's actually a well-explained analogy. Good job.
High IQ and Wisdom do not go hand in hand.
Wouldn't say 'Catholicism' is stupid.Just the people who believe the fairytale.
Where were the 3 wise men of the Trinity when their archangel Lucifer rebelled against their holy Trinity in heaven and even managed to convince some heavenly angels to join him in his rebellion? How could all the three have been asleep when the revolt was happeng? Religion is for the uncritical mind.
Brilliant last sentence.
Not to mention that the Big Guy of the three had to know what was coming, he being omniscient and all.
Hinduism and Buddhism are like this on steroids. God is everything, he is us, he is the universe, he is everywhere and nowhere, formless, but he was also a mighty morphin elephant for a while and presumably still is sometimes.
I am going to add "He is everywhere and nowhere" to my (very long) list of absurd things people say about gods.
Buddhism does not recognize any gods.
Seems you have no understanding of Buddhism.
@@Wanderingsomewhere145 Not once in 30 years has my Roshi ever made any reference to any god. Not once. Maybe he’s not doing it right.
@@Wanderingsomewhere145 Not a whole lot, no. But the reason why I threw in Buddhism with Hinduism is because they’re related and Buddhism tells us that we’re in a state of Samsara, but Buddhism is the path to Nirvana. I think I’m right so far? But then some of them say that Samsara is in a way Nirvana as well so it gets into that circular, vague reasoning along with the Catholic idea of the trinity and the Hindu idea of God being an entity but also formless and also us.. And it’s tricky to talk about Hinduism because I only know a little bit about it and there’s many interpretations of it. If that makes sense? Because it shouldn’t. Because it’s religion.
Dawkins says nothing that I have not already heard from Texas protestants.
To the contrary, Catholicism is among the chrishchun chtchues the most sophisticated one!
@bvdswqawe11
Right on! About as sophisticated as your typing skills. 😒
Why is it so important to guys like Dawkins to prove he is right about something that everyone knows can't be proved? Let it go and move on to something more meaningful.
challenge to every christian show me where jesus preached trinity in his life
1 jhon 5;7 is fabricated verse
Jesus may not have preached the Trinity but it is mentioned in the New Testament (for example, 1 John 5:7-8)
@DanielRochester800 That is only in the KJB. In other versions, for example the English Standard Bible, 1 John 5:7-8 reads:
For there are three that testify:
the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree.
No way to infer anything like a Trinity from that, even at a stretch. Only the King James and versions that are based on it give such embellished translations.
@DanielRochester800that verse was a later addition by trinitians in the proto-church
@@youtoobfarmer That's true.
@@teevian2185 I see, thanks for informing me.
i love how he mocks religion. love dawkins.
Wasn't he saying that protests against Israel are "antisemitic"? How can an atheist say such stupid things? But here he is right, Trinity makes no sense.
There's a very interesting article on this matter titled "Et tu, Dawkins? You refuse religion but support Israel?". Apparently many "rationalist" atheists, such as Maher and Harris, support Israel out of a loathing of Islam. They claim that the democratic Israel stands for peace and the Islamic rest stands for violence and oppression. That's their words. In my opinion, the occupation of foreign land represents violence and oppression, not peace!
no, I don't believe he ever said that. Citation needed!
@@radufefceac Yes, he did say that. Check the source I mentioned.
@DanielRochester800 I need the citation by Dawkins himself. I don't care about some article. Can you tell me when & where Dawkins said that and what exactly are his words?
@@radufefceac He accused student protestors of antisemitism at some panel event last year. Here's the best I could find:
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_There is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate._ -Stephen Hawking
*_1_* Genesis 1:27 tells us God created man in his own image. No. Man created God in his own image. The self invented God, heaven, hell, eternity, purgatory, limbo, etc, because it knows it will end when the body dies. The self is also called the ego, the me, the I, self-pity, self-image, self-importance, self-centeredness, self-aggrandizement.
*_2_* Glass sponges live up to 15,000 years and mayflies up to one day. Where do they go when they die?
*_3_* The root of unhappiness and most problems is the self.
*_4 Without love and sense of humor there is unhappiness and life is meaningless._*
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i'm just writing some bidding prayers for next sunday,
very helpful,
thankyou 🙂 x
I am Not Sure what Professor Dawkins Point is.
Ancient Writings Reflect the Times when they Occurred.
Hence if You want to Fully Understand Something Written in the 3rd Century You have to Find out All the Other Facts of that Time.
Then Read.
@@chrisgriffiths2533 The problem is that these third century writings, despite being obviously outdated, are still believed.
@DanielRochester800
You Don't Believe the 3rd Century Occurred ?.
@@chrisgriffiths2533 The problem is that the message of these third century writings is still believed, not that the existence of the third century writings is believed. Of course the third century happened.
@DanielRochester800
Do You Acknowledge You have No in Person Experience of the 3rd Century, Nor does Professor Dawkins ?.
Therefore Most of the 3rd Century is Unknown to Professor Dawkins, but Thanks to a Catholic You Know Some of Them we're Thinking and Writing ?.
@@chrisgriffiths2533 No living soul has any experience of the third century. Does that render is unqualified to speak about it?
Christianity is founded on a Sumerian/Bronze Age fable about a barenaked lady taking dietary advice from a chatty snake. Suuuure, makes perfect sense. Lol.
Not into the whole Catholic thing myself but why would you spend all your time and your whole life trying to tear something down when if you're so certain of yourself, and your point, promote it.
If you were truly convinced of what you believe, you don't need to try to destroy what someone else believes.
The atheist cause is the same as any other social cause. Dawkins perceives religion as a destructive force; why wouldn't he campaign against it? Likewise, there are people who campaign against racism and fascism.
@ the absence of belief in deities is not a cause.
@@DanFedMusic But a fight for reason and skepticism is a cause. If we can't fight for reason, we can't fight for humanity.
@ but how arrogant does a person have to be to think that they are the authority on reason?
@@DanFedMusic Atheists are not the authority on reason; they simply promote reason, i.e., critical thought and questioning everything.
"One cannot wonder why she did not guide it to xxxx him altogether". Can someone transcribe the word for me, I can't understand it (not native English speaker here).
Miss.
@DanielRochester800 Oh thanks, I thought its was something like kill, which I thought surprisingly unfunny, but that is funny.
Does this chap have equally robust views on Islam?
I'll bet you've got some thoughts on that, go ahead lay it out!
He certainly does and he has been highly critical of Islam in his books and during public appearances. Why do you ask?
@@roberthill799 you know exactly why.
How can an atheist understand God when he believes not in His existence?
We try to understand the God CHARACTER, just like literary critics understand characters in a book or children understand Santa Claus.
Someone asked me what my plans were for the new year.
I said “Well, I have a dream” excitedly she asked,
“what? what is it?”
I said “in a couple of weeks I’ll be celebrating MLK day” and proceeded to recite the “I have a dream speech”
Instantly she interrupted me with
“Oh! That’s just leftist propaganda”
I walked away continuing reciting.
Louder.
I love that speech!!!
It caresses my soul.
Gives me hope.
I recite it every opportunity.
Instead of reading this in front of a public unfamiliar with these questions you could have easily organize a debate with people understanding these things, although here is not about an understanding in the cartezian way.My ""understanding"" is that God has three persons and it is nothing to understand , it is a mystery. However,the closest thing for very analytical people is to think at three masks.Faith and practice of religion help.
Mystery is not helpful to understand reality.
@DanielRochester800 last sentence in comment gives a clue.
Although we can´t say if there is a God-like or sometring akin to that, from our un-advantage point of view in the fringes of a 3erd class galaxy, with only a tiny fraction of time living on Earth, for the same reason IT couldn´t have created us at HIS IMAGE, for Heavens sake!
It's easy to apply human logic to God, but that is Dawkins error. He questions God, forgetting that God is the creator of all things and is capable of all things. God has chosen to be represented by the Holy Trinity, and whatever Dawkins says cannot change that.
@@raybromley9252 If God created logic, and God created us in his image, it only makes sense that logic should be applied to God.
Trinity? How many gods are there?
God, being omnipotent and omniscient have no need of all this fancy footwork! He is not schizophrenic. He has no need for multiple personalities nor manifestations! He is no egotist and does not need you to worship HIM!
HE is all encompassing. You are but an atom in his creation!
In the beginning…. MAN was created by GOD. Now, in the end GOD is created by MAN!
How many gods are there. Is it 3 or just one or any other number?
The catholic trinity is still the most powerful...
He allows pdfiles to reign supreme, still today, over millions.
There are more paedophiles in the clergy than in all the prisons in the land.
Hinduism has a Godhead (Trimurti)
Brahma the creator, Vishnu the preserver and Shiva the destroyer
I am not a Catholic. But what a stuffed shirt this Dawkins character is or was. My question to him and all those in the audience who found his comments humorous is how do you know the unknowable?? I don't imagine you have a direct phone line to the afterlife, so how can you with any credibility comment on any religion that others believe in. Shame on you!
Its all a load of bollocks.
He's not claiming to know anything unknowable. It's theists who are making up ridiculous stories about gods and creations instead of honestly investigating the true nature of the universe.
@@roberthill799 I'm not religious. But in my opinion denying the existence of anything with surety is the same thing as making up stories about gods and creation. And I would not call them ridiculous as they mean a great deal to different cultures around the world.
Go ahead laugh at us if it pleases you.
@@peterpoznanski7541 We don't mean to laugh at anyone, we simply pass criticism.
If anyone's laughter is pleasing, I'd say that's much more sane than what pleases the pious. Namely, the utter delight you take in the thought of fellow humans being mercilessly tortured by your god eternally.
we don't laugh, we just feel contempt toward those who hold a bronze-age view of the world.
"Go ahead laugh at us if it pleases you." - Well, the natural tendency, when someone says something that is clearly absurd, is to laugh. And a lot about religion, especially the Catholic religion, is absurd. Take for example, transubstantiation. We are led to believe that when the priest blesses crackers and wine, they turn into the actual flesh and blood of Christ. Obviously, the priest needs to say the appropriate blessing (the Catholic version of Abracadabra) in order to effect this transmogrification. Really? Do people ACTUALLY believe this nonsense in the 21st century. (Apparently, they do.) To adapt a well know expression, if it looks like a cracker, smells like a cracker and tastes like a cracker, it probably (certainly) is a cracker. Same goes for the wine. And you're wondering why we laugh?
Note that this is different to the Protestant Church, where the crackers and wine are merely symbolic of the fresh and blood of Christ, which I understand and respect.
And then of course, we've got stories about Jesus walking on water. That's also absurd until you realise that either the water must be frozen or that there must be rocks just beneath the surface.
@@Chris-hf2sl "My crazy uncle believes in Bigfoot. Everyone in our family neither believes him _nor_ respects him!" - Patton Oswalt
Who will replace the Four Horsemen?
Well, thank God for the lucid clarity of Prof. Dawkins’s claim that the universe in its entirety was generated from nothing.
I will have to agree with you here, Sir. It is absurd to claim that something can come from nothing-a mathematical impossibility. However, I do not believe that a divine creator resolves the issue of how matter came to be, as we would then have to suppose how the creator came to be. My best guess is that some substance-be it matter or energy-had to have always existed. We may not be able to understand it, but it is the best we have.
He didn't but your evidence-free claim that a god exists is utter fantasy.
Yes, just like God who in his infinite superiority was presumably generated from absolutely nothing, likewise. Perhaps, it's turtles all the way down?
And “lucid clarity” is redundant.
@DanielRochester800
Only those who are totally ignorant of science would claim a universe from nothing. The universe formed 13.8 billion years ago when quantum fluctuations caused the Singularity to expand. The Singularity existed in different form in perpetuity.
One God three Persons, not three gods in one or One God three parts. God is not made up of parts, or devisible into parts God is not a multitude of gods God is One. One God three persons, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. Everyone who is a Christian is a Saint.
Philippians 4:21-23 Salute every saint in Christ Jesus. The brethren which are with me greet you. All the saints salute you, chiefly they that are of Caesar's household. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Saint just simply means holy, sanctafied or set apart all of which Christ people are, all saints pray for eachother we intercede for one another here on earth and also in heaven. I know this may seem complicated but it is! its like trying to understand infinity or the big bang. How you get tripped up over three persons one God but not something out of nothing or what was before the big bang is beyond comprehension!
Maybe everything is just too complicated for Richard Dawkins who is also confused about before the big bang he believes. "We are not physicists. I, like you, am completely baffled by what physicists say to me, that you cannot use the word “before” for before the Big Bang. Time began at the Big Bang. Now that is counterintuitive to me. It’s counterintuitive to you. It’s counterintuitive to Stephen Meyer. But we are not physicists. And you need to talk to a physicist. Talk to a physicist about that."
Thank you for your feedback, as usual. If I may, I'd like to offer my opinion on these points.
1) Regarding the Trinity, we must clarify two facts: firstly, that God is not fragmented into parts or manifestations or symbols: he is One, and secondly, that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. But these two facts contradict each other. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit cannot be God (singular), as this would mean that there are manifestations/parts of God, which is false, and they also cannot be gods (plural), as this would leave multiple gods, which is also false. Please let me know if I'm missing something here.
2) Regarding sainthood, it is true that all in Christ in saints. Then why does the Catholic Church go through the ceremony of appointing certain devoted individuals to sainthood, if all devoted individuals are saints? The process is therefore a recognition of exceptional saints, but it is absurd to claim that some saints are better than others. This is from the National Catholic Register: "All in heaven are saints. In fact, Paul calls all believers saints (holy ones)." Something must be wrong with the Catholic establishment.
3) Regarding your correlation of Catholic complexities with scientific complexities... we need to stop blending science with religion. They have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Science is the effort to understand the natural world (basically, the Universe) through empirical means; religion is the effort to understand the supernatural world through faith. There is nothing scientific about religion; is it based on observation? No; does it involve testing? No; is it built on rationality? No, it is built on ancient human attempts to understand their surroundings without there being any reason to think thus. We used to believe that rain is the product of a blessing, and now we know that this is not true. Yet, many of us still think that everything within the Universe is the work of a Creator. Now, if we are talking about how or why there is a Universe, this is a philosophical question-not a scientific one-of which religion can play a part. However, in any discussion about science, religion cannot be mentioned.
@DanielRochester800 Ok lots of stuff. 1 yes you're missing the concept. Understand that nothing in real life is close to the concept of the trinity but we have similarities God is one in essense/being three in persons. For example a small concept that we get in Genesis is in the creation of mankind. Eve is made from Adam so together they make One flesh but are two different persons they are the same (what) yet different (whos), how? Under Humankind (Adam) there is man and woman both are human yet each have different roles "persons". This is a poor example to understand our beutiful triune God.
Second the ultimate autorithy is the bible alot of people don't understand that so you have confused people like Dawkins going "what is going ooon soo hard soo difficult!" and people say "yes dawkins is smart what is going on! If he being so smart and doesn't know we for sure can't know!" They think "I just go to church! church teach me!" And never read the bible for themselves or truly devote time to understanding what we believe for example the concept of the trinity. If you ask most christians "can you explain the trinity?" they will just say "the trinity is three in one!" and you will ask them what does that mean? "Gee I don't know one three and three one something something I'm a Christian!" so sad.
This brings me to my last thing religion is based on rationality that just goes to show the ignorance of people and science is not based solely on observation, have you observed life coming from materials? No. Have you observed the universe begenning from nothing? No. Our faith is in God and that the bible is His breathed out words. So don't think we shut our eyes. What we disagree on are these things, we believe God created everything, how? when? science can tell us (through the context of the bible since this is our ultimate authority). What we don't believe is when they say that because of these things there is no God.
@@TheWordIsLife-r1f We have come to the same usual talking points and, perhaps, we may never harmonize our opinions. All I will say is that whenever science points the one way and religion the other, by virtue of being a rigorous process, science must prevail. The same can't be said of philosophy and, in fact, religion can be considered a variant of philosophy. So questions about the origins of the universe, which science cannot understand, can be debated between philosophy and religion.
@DanielRochester800 Fair. There is a whole world aside from the obserbable like morality, it needs to go back to the days where religion figured out how to get to heaven and science how the heavens worked these two operate in different planes. Did you get better understanding to my other points like the trinity?
@TheWordIsLife-r1f The trinity, as is explained in the Bible, remains unresolved to me.
Actually the trinity is unscriptual, never is the trinity even mentioned in the bible, there is only one God JEHOVAH, and his son Jesus christ, with regard to the true GOD JEHOVAH, evolutionists, those who mock and deny JEHOVAH GODS existence, will very soon find out about ( polite bit straight to the point comment, to those who mock and deny JEHOVAH GODS existenc) 💯
One god and his son Jesus? So there are two gods?
Put them together and you have a person
Isn’t it the height of arrogance for someone like Richard Dawkins to critique the teaching of the Catholic Church? The one who suggested the theory known as the Big Bang, was a Belgian Priest Father George Lemaitre. No one challenges his scientific theory, but Richard Dawkins ridicules his faith and theology. I often think no one could be an atheist after listening to Leonard Bernstein’s recording of Mozart’s Ave Verum. I prefer to believe in God as an explanation for the genius of Mozart, than that his existence is pure chance as Dawkins would have it.
Your belief is just a belief unless you can provide evidence that the object of your belief exists. You can't, so why should your belief be taken seriously?
The position of mr. Dawkins has some significant philosophical gaps. And so do the positions of religious people.
For instance, where does consciousness come from ? Humanity is in a very interesting rut on which it is heaven to contemplate.
As long as we let each other live in peace, I'm not one to deny anyone the right to hypotheses concerning any life philosophy of any human being on this planet. But leave each other be !!
what philosophical gaps?
Consciousness comes from brains. That's it.
Poor Dawkins
Poor you.
@indeed, poor me, but saved and redeemed me.
Prove it.
@ why do you worry if I am saved and redeemed or not? It is my personal salvation.
I know why it bothers you, but I would like to hear from you.
SAY WHAT YOU WILL ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THE SAINTS AND THE POPE ARE COOL AND IM A LUTHERAN
They are also deceivers and crooks.
Gravity, e=mc2.
Okay, Mr Smarty Pants Knowitall!
You don't have to know everything to recognize error
Let us be honest. That man said a lot, but he did not say anything, that could be some other way to understand meaning of The Holy Trinty. That was just a claster of messy thoughts and mockery.
@dawidozarowski5242😂 He showed that there is no trinity to understand.
@@matswessling6600 The point is, that The Holy Trinity is mostly impossible to understand for us, folk, since of our bordered minds. By the way, The Holy Trinity was mentioned in The Holy Bible, in The Book of Genesis.
@dawidozarowski5242 Not true.
I wish Richard Dawkins would have an open minded conversation with Pope Francis. He might learn something.
Yeah, the Pope has a lot to learn.
@DanielRochester800 No, Dawkins would. Do I detect a little bit of anti-Catholicism here? There are enough bigots out there.
@@TheMotz55 If we think Catholicism is wrong, we have a right to call out its errors. Saying otherwise equates to limiting debate and political discourse. As long as its civil, we can debate the merits of any religion.
@DanielRochester800 "As long as it's civil, we can debate the merits of any religion." Uhm, surely you're not suggesting that religion has some merit.
@@Chris-hf2sl Well, anything that is believed by billions worldwide must be taken seriously. We can't say that religion has no merit, but it also bears a lot of blotches.
*POPE v GOD* - It's very important to remember that we can't earn our way to Heaven. Salvation is a FREE gift by grace through faith. Let's never forget that the precious BLOOD of Jesus Christ cleans us from ALL sin which means there is NOTHING that can be added to improve the one time FINISHED redemptive work of Jesus Christ on the cross. Acts 10:43 & Ephesians 2:8-9 & Hebrews 10:10-14.
Your mad as a hatter.
Like a proton neutron and electron.
No, because none of those three things is an atom
What about neutrinos, quarks and positrons, to cite a very few? Maybe God is a multiplicity, not a trinity.
Catholicism existed long before dawkings , and when he is forgotten , it will still be in existence until the end of time 🙏
His name is Richard Dawkins not "dawkings"
Catholicism is based on a hoax and a lie.
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A scientist observes matter and energy something that can be proven a theologian through faith can know the unseen invisible to human scences
A theologian can think that through faith he can know the unseen invisible to human senses. Faith by its very definition is belief without evidence. So they only believe that they can know.
How is it possible to know this "unseen invisible"? May as well believe God is a swamp miasma or an intergalactic nebula or neither.
Three persons one God ...RD confusing his categories ! This belief not confined to Catholics ...he should know that .
Dawkins is kinda dumb on theological matters. I wish he hadn’t opened his mouth on behalf of Atheists and stuck to what he knows best, evolutionary biology.
You dont need to know everything detail of homeopathy to know it is rubbish. the same is true about theology.
It begs the question -- How does one become not dumb on theological matters? Through blind faith, presumably, which means you will believe anything.
@matswessling6600 your counter example is trash. Comparing theology to homeopathy is not sufficient a comparison to claim any reasonable person can deny or affirm it. philosophy is a field distinct from biology enough to warrant a new knowledge. Dawkins does not have that knowledge. Philosophy of religion is a distinct field. He shouldn’t open his mouth.
@JohnWerner-te5zy The field of philosophy of religion and theology has a lot of worthy discussions. Even if you participate in the arguments for or against gods existence. I am just saying Dawkins is dumb about these because it is a field that has been thought about and he supposes because he knows biology he knows philosophy of religion. He doesn’t.
@@danielmcdermott3558 "philosophy" is kind of vague to bring up here. What do you mean by "theology"? Do you mean theology in the sociological/psycological sense as "why is religion" or what do you mean? give specific example of where dawkins wrote pr said something stupid about theology.
Christ is King Christ is King!
😂
We don't live in a monarchy
Yet there is zero contemporary evidence to show that he even existed. Yahweh was originally a Levantine deity and one of 70 children of the god El. The 10 commandments were stolen from the Egyptian book of the dead, Moses never existed and the exodus never happened. The Noah story was plagiarised from the Epic of Gilgamesh and no one even knows who wrote the gospels. The church just assigned names to these anonymous texts according to their tradition.
@ it’s Sunday go to mass
@@liamoconnell8354you are an example of blind faith.
Your parents and many around you in your community believed in this without questioning so you believe in this without questioning because you are afraid of admitting the truth that it was all for nothing.
If that so then stupidity is shared with those who believe in Quantum Mechanics, multiverse, superposition, and entanglement. All this involves biology and then Dawkings. Welcome to the stupidity of your world, mister 😂😂
Quantum mechanics is built on evidence and logic and has been largely confirmed to be true. The Bible was written before science even existed, and we're meant to trust the Bible to explain reality?
@DanielRochester800 Nop, your ignorace don't let you know that there is no evidence.
@@eus38io Nope. Your lack of education makes you believe there is no evidence because you have not looked at it.
@@eus38ioQuantum Mechanics explains how blackbody radiation works. That was the first proof. And that was established 124 years ago...
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 You are the one with no scientific education. Read about quantum mechanics if you know how to read.
Dawkins... a hero for stupid people everywhere. Listen to geniuses like Albert Einstein and Chris Langan instead.
Einstein specifically denied the existence of any God.
Chris Langan??? 😂😆😲
Please tell me you are joking!
Silly man….
Please explain why Dawhins is silly and be specific!
silly post...
Who? Jesus?
@@seveglider8406 bad jokes, bad taste…
Dawkins is a dinosaur much like Daniel Dennett was. Has said nothing new in the last half century, and really has nothing to add but his own cynicism regarding Nature and Life, which still remains quite a mystery.
@jamenta2
Cynical? He's as far from cynical as one can be. His lectures and writing brim with enthusiasm and wonder. You just don't like the fact that he effectively calls out your brand of bullsh*t.
It is a mystery to those who do not study it in detail like Dawkins does.
@@roberthill799 "my brand of bullsh*t" lol - yeah, that's not cynical. Whatever dude. As Kant once wrote: "Skepticism is thus a resting-place for human reason, where it can reflect upon its dogmatic wanderings."
And believe me, Dawkins has never ever been close to the level of reasoning of an Immanuel Kant.
@@JohnWerner-te5zy Of course. Anyone who disagrees with Dawkins obviously is not as deep a thinker as he. Why didn't I think of that?
@@JohnWerner-te5zy It is a mystery to me how know-it-alls believe they know it all.
It just goes to show that Richard Dawkins doesn’t understand the Trinity. If you try and look at philosophical or theological concept scientifically, it’s not going to work. It’s 3 persons that share a single divine nature. Believe it to exist or not, it does make sense. His mockery is pretty funny though, even if I am a modestly practising Catholic.
Good on you for having a sense of humor and not being offended. We need more people like this nowadays.
@aidankiely9672
Nothing in Christianity or any other form of mythology "works" when they are looked at scientifically.
@@roberthill799 Definition of a "myth" is "something that never was but always is".
Brainwashing.
The Trinity is said to be a mystery beyond human reasoning, impossible for us to understand or explain. It is the biggest obstacle to becoming a Christian and knowing God, is understanding the Trinity. Yet, the Trinity is simple and very easy to understand, if you know one thing.
Jesus said; “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him who sent me. 17 If anyone desires to do His will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or I speak of my own originality. 18 Whoever speaks of his own originality is seeking his own glory; . . .” (John 7:16-18)
How can it not be from Jesus, if he is part of a Trinity?
Jesus’ authority to forgive sins was given to him by God.
“However, in order for you to know that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins-” then he said to the paralytic: “Get up, pick up your stretcher, and go to your home.” And he got up and went to his home. When the crowds saw this, they were struck with fear, and they glorified God, who gave such authority to men.” (Matthew 9:6-8)
Did Jesus Deny Being God in Mark 10:18? Yes, he did.
““Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God.” (Mark 10:18)
Jesus was referring to what the OT stated, “For you, O Jehovah, are good . . .” (Psalm 86:5)
Jesus states that his Father is his God, Jesus worships his Father as God.
“Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”” (John 20:17)
You don’t worship someone you are equal to, nor do you worship yourself. If this was true, then why does the Father never worship or pray to Jesus?
The Father has authority over Jesus just as a husband has authority over his wife.
“But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3)
If you have a head or boss, you are not equal to them. How does this work with Jesus?
Jesus will subject himself to his Father.
“But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.” (1 Corinthians 15:28)
If you subject yourself to someone’s authority, you are not equal in authority to them. How can two members of the Trinity have different levels of authority, while the third member, the Holy Spirit seems to have none and is never even pictured as having a body?
Can Jesus be both God and the mediatory between God and men?
“. . .For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all-. . .” (1 Timothy 2:5, 6)
“. . .Now there is no mediator when just one person is involved, but God is only one.” (Galatians 3:20)
Why did Paul write both verses? Why did he not explain it in light of the Trinity?
These are very complex questions with a very simple answer that is so obvious once you know it. This answer is staring you in the face it is so simple. Just think about it, what did a Jew have to accept and believe to become a Christian? It was only one thing.
“Peter said to them: “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins,. . .” (Acts 2:38) “. . .God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.”” (Acts 2:36)
All a Jew had to do was accept Jesus as the promised messiah. The word ‘messiah’ means anointed, as in anointed to become king. The Jews just had to accept Jesus as the king in the kingdom promised by God. They did not have to learn about or believe in the Trinity. Which is why Jesus never gave a sermon on the Trinity, why he never even mentioned it or explained it. No one in the Bible ever does. The Trinity is an impossible mystery until you unlock the secret of it, that makes it very easy to understand, the Trinity is a lie. It is a false doctrine. That is why it is not in the Bible. Why would the Bible explain something that doesn’t exist?
Once you understand this simple solution to the mystery of the Trinity, it is like the scales falling from Paul’s eyes after he accepted Jesus as the promised messiah. With this understanding, it makes understanding God and scripture so much clearer and easier. Suddenly it is like you can see for the first time and everything makes sense when unsolvable mysteries beyond human understanding suddenly pop like a soap bubble and you wonder why you didn’t see it sooner.
Bunkum!
@@JohnWerner-te5zy Yes, correct, the Trinity doctrine is indeed 'Bunkum!" that is why it is said to be a mystery. It is a mystery why any one believes it when the Bible exposes it as a lie.
Yes, it's very easy to understand once you abandon all logic and common sense. It's the same thing with Father Christmas - how does he visit all the world's children in a single night to deliver all those presents? Simple - he travels at 2.7 times the speed of light and his sleigh is capable of holding several billion presents. I must admit though, I've never understood why his beard doesn't get black when he climbs down the chimney.