@@How44247 same, i want to play this game too, and from their talks great sword should be really good plus staff should give more options to throw fireball at people. i can live out my fantasy as gandalf with an excalibur.
You know what I dislike. There are a total of 21 weapon combinations, yet only 9 are discussed. I get that certain weapons just fit together nicely and others won't but I was really hoping that the "tripod" system or combat overhaul would fix that somehow. More than half the available combinations are portrayed as unviable here. Big fail for the TnL devs IMO.
Im pretty sure the overhaul and tripod was for the "slow combat"complaint not balance but yea at this point ur gonna see probably 100000000000 dagger-greatsword 🤣
This is a community problem. They only want to min/max. Then months down the line. "New meta emerges." When the community was stubborn against anything else to begin with.
@@Bustaperizmwell if some weapons just have better passives that increase their efficiency with only certain combinations well and there are quite few weapons anyway. Lot more active and passive skills are probably needed for each weapon to make more weapon combinations good. Like that staff / gs build we get in many videos. Why doesn't staff have any melee range skills or decent defensive options to make melee mage reality. Same with other weapon combinations. Some weapons just bring good dmg and other good protection. All weapons should have both if specced right but its not reality now. Also wand doesn't icrease dmg at all for other weapons for example or some weapons like GS only give dmg boost if hitting cced enemy but what if you dont have that cc in your weapon/ playstyle. All the current weapons are just lacking in variety and better boost certain specific gameplay only. Sure in pve dungeons I think it probably doesnt matter so much what you play but the game is very pvp oriented and if you choose the okay build your probably going to have bad time because you have a massive weakness in form of lacking defensives or smth else. If respeccing easily was option it wouldn't be this big problem but no1 want to play a build that they aren't certain will do well and have fun with. Those 2 come together most of the time. People will probably just end up quitting the game instead of rerolling new character or spend 2-3 months grinding new weapon to same level. Quite a pickle they have designed on their game and monetization.
Metas wil always exist. If you wanna play greatsword crossbow cause you’re dumb and like those weapons even tho they don’t fit together or work at all, you’re welcome to do it
It is fine as a casual option, no problem. But if you actually take a second look at weapon synergies, and how to gear for a weapon combo, GS+Staff do not have significant synergy. Their gearing goals also differ. So while playable and good enough, it's not a recommendation if that makes sense.
interesting, i was planning to mix sword and shield and staff but it seems like it's not a good combo? it's hard to understand why without actually playing the game but disappointing nonetheless
How long does it take to level up a different weapon in this game if you wanna switch up your class? I was thinking about playing SnS/Dagger but I also wanna have Bow and GS as alternatives to pair with them. Is it a pain to switch weapons/classes or is it something you can do without wasting huge amounts of time on leveling them up?
It's a pain because you need different gear for different builds. You also would have to level up different skills. You pretty much are stuck to one build until months down the line. However, if you swap between gear tiers it isn't as bad now since you can swap skill exp to another skill. (not easily) So, if you go from staff bow at blue gear to gs s&s at t1 epic it's doable, but if you're in the middle of t1 epic gear and want to swap you're pretty much screwed.
@@Psikick4 I essentially want to play SnS/Dagger & Bow/Dagger cause I love both playstyles and can't really decide on one for all eternity... that's my problem... and they're both very different playstyles
@@sportschool3537 you can definitely finish one build, and then work on another you just got to realize it's going to take a few months for the first one
How good is staff wand in pvp, especially in open world pvp 1vs1? Do i always need a „real“ dd teammate for damage output? Can i kill my enemy with this build, when i am solo or is it only, that the enemy can’t kill me, because i can heal me all the time? Do i have a chance against dps or tank classes?
that build is thrash,you cant kill and spamming healing all the time.the damage that land with low hp support,you gonna die,they supposed nerf them.especially the gs sns build.
I have hands but im hating Crossbow dagger cause i feel my damage in pve and when transitioning to arena pvp or open world as a f2p i genuinely feel like i just get either outranged, cced or healer just saving those i attack or once i jump on the healer their entire team jump on me. Im not sure is my build bad is there a change i should make or a way i can use or something to be aware off
For all the players like me who NEVER had access to the game - WTF is Fury? It is constantly mentioned and never was explained. Are we suppose to know what it is?
Wand mainly has cc skills and dots and heals and does the weakest of all weapons so you can't really go offensive with it since the kit it has is suited for ccing and healing mainly. wand can set your team up for pushes and such with cc in an offensive why, but don't expect wand to push out massive damage as other weapons
@@romangolob2279 did you not read what I said?I said MAINLY has Cc,dots, and heals. and figured they were talking about pvp since I doubt you could get off a big explosion. also that explosion has a decently high cool down I think🤔
I was wanting to play SnS + Dagger however after seeing GS + SnS (why GS 1st and not SnS for SnS + GS? Does it matter?) I'm thinking about maybe playing that instead. What do others think?
Just curious. So there are some combos not listed at all. Obviously probably not in the meta, but how many of those have very niche uses or can be good against some of the meta weapon combinations. Not that every weapon combo can be tested fully, if there isn't someone interested in it, but are there ever combos not listed that you encounter and are surprised how good it worked?
The main issue with the "non-meta" builds is synergies. Where you put your stats, what benefits you get from the weapon's skill tree, and what you get from your non-weapon gear. Usually these work for melee, or ranged, but not both. Dagger is kinda weird in that the benefits are outside the normal stat stacking, mostly tied to the skills it provides like stealth.
@@davidskidmore3442 I kinda disliked that already in the beta but hoped it got better with the combat rework stuff. I'd love to play something like sns or gs + staff for example. Battle mage style. I played sns wand and later sns dagger in the beta, it was fine and fun but I'd love something more flashy whilst still being in the midst of things.
Does anyone have a link to the bow dagger COOLDOWN build they’re referring to? Wondering which gear they recommend and how much CDR I need to be optimal? Ik there’s a purple mask with CDR, the dagger (?) weapon mastery line, and then there’s a purple necklace im aware of. Wondering if I need more or less
Thanks @kanon good vid! How does the Archeboss Weapon drop work? Is it a random chance for anyone in the guild event or is like master looter where the Guild Leader decides who gets it?
Is there something im missing, or did they changed stuff or site is not updated, i see blood devotion not buffing damage but instead its a tank ability that help soaking damage for your allies ???
Skill floor is low. It’s easy to understand and be decent depending on your “class” and build. Skill ceiling is high. Competitive PvP requires a lot of game/class knowledge, thumbs, and a bit of luck considering CC’s have a chance to not proc.
It'd made for phones bud. It's going to be braindead. Any game made for console or phones is generally going to be way easier to play requiring less buttons. Just a given.
@@Tory-JJ less buttons doesn't mean it takes less strategy, still need some brainpower to do your combos and know fallbacks incase you mess up/get countered. game evolved quite a bit since the mobile phone stage, it's a lot more reactive and dynamic now.
It’s also more expectations of the Min/Max players whilst it can work traditional GS/S&S is the true tank and you would want a proper support healer so if you needed an additional wand then your missing on DPS
Explain what tools are lost by an sns/wand to make it less able to tank? It has less damage than sns/gs but most of the same defensives and aggro generators.
If I leveled a staff/wand, could I level a bow on the side to go staff/wand, bow/wand and staff/bow, basically having the choice of either supps or a dps class?
yes, you can have 3+ weapons at the end game, but it will require grinding to level up the masteries. I play staff/bow/wand on KR and really like it. Can go DPS build or healer build depending on the content.
Staff/bow provides extra range to your staff skills, playing as a 'mage' you won't use the bow skills much. Wand being a support tool mostly does provide some benefit, but doesn't synergize as well. Dagger with staff is mostly for extra crit and the stealth skill.
I'm going to be playing on Xbox series x. I wanna main Dagger what are some good combos with Daggers as a main weapon? After the new weapon update I thought I would see Daggers as a main weapon 😩
Everybody in the comments mad because joei is selling builds...why not just let the man hustle. If you don't want to buy what he's selling, simply go to free resources (like I will.) Dude's living in the Philippines as a small time content creator, let him live lmao. No reason to hate dude because he's trying to make a few bucks.
@@Dome98Otaku that's subjective. There are ALOT of people that pay folks for information so they don't have to do the work. I don't comprehend it but to people with money, time is more important. Not everyone thinks like poor people.
Howdy @kanon former avid MMO player that saw this game and your videos and has really wanted to get back involved In group based PvP and PvE. Does your guild have a website for recruitment or an application process? Looking for other adult gamers that are interested in learning and progression and competing. Cheers
Can someone explain please when you have t1 gear and you have all traits and they will open t2 dungeons for new gear and weapons i can put my t1 with all traits to new t2 weapon? Or i will lost the traits?
Every MMO is grindy to be fair, I haven't played thrones and liberty just yet, but I really enjoy how the pvp is and being able to incorporate more friends for mass pvp(GvG) or if you want to do arena(3v3) PVE in general will always be something that requires more time, but goal is to get to end game, farm those gears specific to your class build and try to stay consistent and not burn out. Many players @ launch will play 1 week, get max level or what not and leave the game, just don't be that player and the game will come easy.
Its the same thing bro, but you dont want gs in main hand because you need sns passives active ALL time, you need use gs passives only when you use gs skills, If you use gs in main hand you Will get a Lot of damage because you Will use sns passives only when you use sns skills, you always want your sns passives active because you ARE a TANK.
I’ll start Staff/Dagger or Bow/Dagger and then level the other (Bow/Staff) so I can play those AND Staff/Bow. 4th would be GS of if I get to it before Christmas hahaha.
@@Psikick4 I know, there are however armor sets that have very general usage. Such as the Wraith set. For ranged I’ll probably start with that or the Winged armor set. The winged indeed has no use on the GS. But by the time I am up to my 4th weapon I will probably be close to able to build a 2nd armor set.
@@Psikick4 True. I think in the end you could level up a second armor set definitely. It just takes time. I refuse to start an alt on a weapon combo based game. Seems to counter the idea of being able to change class with swapping weapons so incredibly hard it’s insane to me. I hope in the west we’ll get events to get more mats for this.
It does. I think the weapon passive tree is only active for whatever is currently equipped primary. So if GS is active you'd have the GS tree active with its health buffs, heavy hit, etc. If Sns is primary then that tree would be active with the tank and CC buffs. Depends on what build you're going for which one you would have in primary slot. There's a keybind to switch that on the fly too though. I think typically for Sns gs most people do Sns primary.
The first number is for Tier 1 and the second is for Tier 2. So when they put 2/3 they mean it's the rating is 2 for Tier 1 and 3 for Tier 2. 1 being the lowest, and 5 being the highest. Hope that makes sense.
Not really at the moment. I think there's one T2 wand in the Talandre update that has some healing related passive. But not an archboss heal weapon yet.
Dude, huge thanks for your content and approach. TnL is a very controversial game, at least for me. I'm still deciding, if i'm playing it or not, and you make a huge difference on the scale
the thing is ranged classes can pull to much ,in contests they always have highest and are nr 1 that shit should be nerft or at least that it doesnt pull like melee cuse thats straight out unfair and does same damage and all no downsides...
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Question: Is Great sword and crossbow not a combo that can be done in the game? I wanted to create a Dante style (DMC) class.
@@How44247 same, i want to play this game too, and from their talks great sword should be really good plus staff should give more options to throw fireball at people. i can live out my fantasy as gandalf with an excalibur.
@@guru8143 would be more like Merlin then :D
how come theres no bow and greatsword, or S&s and bow?
Thanks a lot @Kanon for organizing this interview, plenty of very valuable feedback here 👍, can't wait to play in EU.
TLDR: everyone should go sns/wand and swing their swords at each other :D
How much is JOEI gonna charge for this exclusive tier list?
I’m dead
@@mimicislivettv 💀
Where do I enter my credit card info?
Rdy to simp for builds
this joei guy is a joke 😂
Guess we have to buy the tierlist from joei
You know what I dislike. There are a total of 21 weapon combinations, yet only 9 are discussed. I get that certain weapons just fit together nicely and others won't but I was really hoping that the "tripod" system or combat overhaul would fix that somehow. More than half the available combinations are portrayed as unviable here. Big fail for the TnL devs IMO.
Im pretty sure the overhaul and tripod was for the "slow combat"complaint not balance but yea at this point ur gonna see probably 100000000000 dagger-greatsword 🤣
@@thecake122 Makes sense, decent dmg. I'm gong Great Sword Sword and Shield. I'd like to do dungeons and AOE farm and still decent for pvp.
This is a community problem. They only want to min/max.
Then months down the line. "New meta emerges." When the community was stubborn against anything else to begin with.
@@Bustaperizmwell if some weapons just have better passives that increase their efficiency with only certain combinations well and there are quite few weapons anyway.
Lot more active and passive skills are probably needed for each weapon to make more weapon combinations good.
Like that staff / gs build we get in many videos. Why doesn't staff have any melee range skills or decent defensive options to make melee mage reality. Same with other weapon combinations.
Some weapons just bring good dmg and other good protection. All weapons should have both if specced right but its not reality now.
Also wand doesn't icrease dmg at all for other weapons for example or some weapons like GS only give dmg boost if hitting cced enemy but what if you dont have that cc in your weapon/ playstyle.
All the current weapons are just lacking in variety and better boost certain specific gameplay only.
Sure in pve dungeons I think it probably doesnt matter so much what you play but the game is very pvp oriented and if you choose the okay build your probably going to have bad time because you have a massive weakness in form of lacking defensives or smth else.
If respeccing easily was option it wouldn't be this big problem but no1 want to play a build that they aren't certain will do well and have fun with.
Those 2 come together most of the time.
People will probably just end up quitting the game instead of rerolling new character or spend 2-3 months grinding new weapon to same level.
Quite a pickle they have designed on their game and monetization.
Metas wil always exist. If you wanna play greatsword crossbow cause you’re dumb and like those weapons even tho they don’t fit together or work at all, you’re welcome to do it
Staff/Wand dps as always overlooked but its only class that is true mage sadly for now :P
Rating list < Tier list
what are the classes with low apm? i want to chill
Same
Thanks you guys I’ve been watching every single one of you guys videos for throne and liberty so much help can’t wait for launch
I never played tl and dont know much about classes at all, but this conversation still very understandable for experience mmo player!
thanks a lot for your insights, guys! pretty hyped for the game! :)
Damn, I've just finished watching previous video from 2 month, 3rd time :) Thanks for your opinion & tips guys! :)
I don't see GS + Staff combo >.
Thought the same
maybe its really bad
It is fine as a casual option, no problem.
But if you actually take a second look at weapon synergies, and how to gear for a weapon combo, GS+Staff do not have significant synergy. Their gearing goals also differ.
So while playable and good enough, it's not a recommendation if that makes sense.
@@FelixJMK I assume that's also why things like xbow + sns are not ever presented on tier lists as well.
interesting, i was planning to mix sword and shield and staff but it seems like it's not a good combo? it's hard to understand why without actually playing the game but disappointing nonetheless
I hope Dagger becomes viable as a mainhand one day.
Question why not Gs/wand
So far im really enjoying it Good damage and great survival I'm reking in pvp
Best SS+ tier class is Visa&Mastercard combo.
How long does it take to level up a different weapon in this game if you wanna switch up your class? I was thinking about playing SnS/Dagger but I also wanna have Bow and GS as alternatives to pair with them.
Is it a pain to switch weapons/classes or is it something you can do without wasting huge amounts of time on leveling them up?
It's a pain because you need different gear for different builds. You also would have to level up different skills. You pretty much are stuck to one build until months down the line.
However, if you swap between gear tiers it isn't as bad now since you can swap skill exp to another skill. (not easily)
So, if you go from staff bow at blue gear to gs s&s at t1 epic it's doable, but if you're in the middle of t1 epic gear and want to swap you're pretty much screwed.
@@Psikick4 I essentially want to play SnS/Dagger & Bow/Dagger cause I love both playstyles and can't really decide on one for all eternity... that's my problem... and they're both very different playstyles
@@sportschool3537 you can definitely finish one build, and then work on another you just got to realize it's going to take a few months for the first one
@sportschool3537 bow dagger for faster play style. Sns dagger slower. Bow dagger is more for sweat players.
How good is staff wand in pvp, especially in open world pvp 1vs1?
Do i always need a „real“ dd teammate for damage output?
Can i kill my enemy with this build, when i am solo or is it only, that the enemy can’t kill me, because i can heal me all the time?
Do i have a chance against dps or tank classes?
that build is thrash,you cant kill and spamming healing all the time.the damage that land with low hp support,you gonna die,they supposed nerf them.especially the gs sns build.
What would you recommend for a bow dagger build?
where can i find tried and true builds. Looking for staff wand support.
nice video....i just have one question, how good/bad is gs/wand? i heard ppl said they are good? i was like wth
i didnt saw greatsword / bow greatsword/ staff and other thing like this is it a reason ?
I have hands but im hating Crossbow dagger cause i feel my damage in pve and when transitioning to arena pvp or open world as a f2p i genuinely feel like i just get either outranged, cced or healer just saving those i attack or once i jump on the healer their entire team jump on me. Im not sure is my build bad is there a change i should make or a way i can use or something to be aware off
For all the players like me who NEVER had access to the game - WTF is Fury?
It is constantly mentioned and never was explained. Are we suppose to know what it is?
I like hybrid clases. Why not classes with wand on offence? Is it bad or what?
Wand mainly has cc skills and dots and heals and does the weakest of all weapons so you can't really go offensive with it since the kit it has is suited for ccing and healing mainly. wand can set your team up for pushes and such with cc in an offensive why, but don't expect wand to push out massive damage as other weapons
@@ItsGameOvanot true wand has great damage with curse explosions and dmg boosts probably one of the best for aoe farming
@@romangolob2279 did you not read what I said?I said MAINLY has Cc,dots, and heals. and figured they were talking about pvp since I doubt you could get off a big explosion. also that explosion has a decently high cool down I think🤔
@@romangolob2279it has great burst, but terrible sustain dmg just like they said in the video.
I was wanting to play SnS + Dagger however after seeing GS + SnS (why GS 1st and not SnS for SnS + GS? Does it matter?) I'm thinking about maybe playing that instead. What do others think?
Sns/gs is amazing. It always was and will ever be 🎉
JOEI is like a strict old grade 6 teacher here in Philippines.
Just curious. So there are some combos not listed at all. Obviously probably not in the meta, but how many of those have very niche uses or can be good against some of the meta weapon combinations. Not that every weapon combo can be tested fully, if there isn't someone interested in it, but are there ever combos not listed that you encounter and are surprised how good it worked?
The main issue with the "non-meta" builds is synergies. Where you put your stats, what benefits you get from the weapon's skill tree, and what you get from your non-weapon gear. Usually these work for melee, or ranged, but not both. Dagger is kinda weird in that the benefits are outside the normal stat stacking, mostly tied to the skills it provides like stealth.
@@davidskidmore3442 I kinda disliked that already in the beta but hoped it got better with the combat rework stuff. I'd love to play something like sns or gs + staff for example. Battle mage style. I played sns wand and later sns dagger in the beta, it was fine and fun but I'd love something more flashy whilst still being in the midst of things.
Does anyone have a link to the bow dagger COOLDOWN build they’re referring to? Wondering which gear they recommend and how much CDR I need to be optimal?
Ik there’s a purple mask with CDR, the dagger (?) weapon mastery line, and then there’s a purple necklace im aware of. Wondering if I need more or less
Do you have any idea if multiple wand users can stack, spread and explode each others dots, and if multiple bow users could stack Deadly Marker?
Which does more damage, sns greatsword, or staff wand?
SNS Wand sounds like a Cleric in Aion, yep they wont nerf it theyre just all round busters xD
Can we PLEASE get your Ss Wand build !?!?
Thanks @kanon good vid! How does the Archeboss Weapon drop work? Is it a random chance for anyone in the guild event or is like master looter where the Guild Leader decides who gets it?
Is it better to do SNS primary or secondary weapon in SNS/GS for overall PVP in end-game?
Is there something im missing, or did they changed stuff or site is not updated, i see blood devotion not buffing damage but instead its a tank ability that help soaking damage for your allies ???
When will be PT.2?
What do y’all think the (early access) server for NA east PvP/GvG will be?
Bow staff can still give high focus though so it's better than staff wand still as dps imo
This game in PVP going be skilled base? I'm going play on Xbox but the combat Looks very Spamy .. just wondering thanks
Skill floor is low. It’s easy to understand and be decent depending on your “class” and build.
Skill ceiling is high. Competitive PvP requires a lot of game/class knowledge, thumbs, and a bit of luck considering CC’s have a chance to not proc.
Just roll shield and greatsword and ez game
It'd made for phones bud. It's going to be braindead. Any game made for console or phones is generally going to be way easier to play requiring less buttons. Just a given.
gear > class > skill
@@Tory-JJ less buttons doesn't mean it takes less strategy, still need some brainpower to do your combos and know fallbacks incase you mess up/get countered.
game evolved quite a bit since the mobile phone stage, it's a lot more reactive and dynamic now.
So where is the tier list?
Didn't pass 15seconds into the video
@@BonjourJourbon You have to purchase it from joe.
Timestamps are off just FYI, at least for GS/D and GS/SnS
Bow dagger or xbow dagger?
Ive heard that SNS/Wand cant really tank/heal very well in the high end competitive dungeons?
Skill issue.
It’s also more expectations of the Min/Max players whilst it can work traditional GS/S&S is the true tank and you would want a proper support healer so if you needed an additional wand then your missing on DPS
Explain what tools are lost by an sns/wand to make it less able to tank? It has less damage than sns/gs but most of the same defensives and aggro generators.
If I leveled a staff/wand, could I level a bow on the side to go staff/wand, bow/wand and staff/bow, basically having the choice of either supps or a dps class?
I'm leveling staff/wand for heals/convenience, just not putting any resources into wand and I'll switch to Dagger or GS eventually
yes, you can have 3+ weapons at the end game, but it will require grinding to level up the masteries. I play staff/bow/wand on KR and really like it. Can go DPS build or healer build depending on the content.
Is it possible to play SNS / Longbow effectively in endgame? Im curious about that build...
So is there no like full dps mage? Like GS/SNS two melee oriented weps. Seems like the dps mage is a mix of melee and mage.
You focus on mage weapon like staff and use the other as utility/passive stat stick
@@logicomamk2848 gotcha. Thanks for the info.
Staff/bow provides extra range to your staff skills, playing as a 'mage' you won't use the bow skills much. Wand being a support tool mostly does provide some benefit, but doesn't synergize as well. Dagger with staff is mostly for extra crit and the stealth skill.
I'm going to be playing on Xbox series x. I wanna main Dagger what are some good combos with Daggers as a main weapon? After the new weapon update I thought I would see Daggers as a main weapon 😩
What pve dps class give best dps?
I want play in pve activity and be useful
Bow crossbow is heavily single target dps right ? Less AOE ?
Welche klasse ist die beste von den im pvp. Staff/dagger, bow/dagger, crossbow/dagger ?
단검 필수품
greatsword sword shield, is the greatsword the main hand?
Everybody in the comments mad because joei is selling builds...why not just let the man hustle. If you don't want to buy what he's selling, simply go to free resources (like I will.)
Dude's living in the Philippines as a small time content creator, let him live lmao.
No reason to hate dude because he's trying to make a few bucks.
100% as long as he is an honest businessman and isn't selling snake oil
@@Jay-ft3xh He's selling information that's publicly out there, just a weird move
@@Dome98Otaku that's subjective. There are ALOT of people that pay folks for information so they don't have to do the work. I don't comprehend it but to people with money, time is more important. Not everyone thinks like poor people.
@@Dome98Otaku all the information that Warren Buffet used to make billions in the stock market is public too
@@Darth0308 it's really funny how people who barely make 6 figures think they're rich lmao.
Howdy @kanon former avid MMO player that saw this game and your videos and has really wanted to get back involved In group based PvP and PvE. Does your guild have a website for recruitment or an application process? Looking for other adult gamers that are interested in learning and progression and competing. Cheers
can i use sns greatsword and sns / wand with the same gear?
Can someone explain please when you have t1 gear and you have all traits and they will open t2 dungeons for new gear and weapons i can put my t1 with all traits to new t2 weapon? Or i will lost the traits?
Why can you only have 1 wand per group? Is it a stacking thing as in they dont stack or?
Arena rules
Rather than trying to actually balance ss and wands they just limit them in arenas.
what changes if the main weapon changes? Example Wand/Staff
So if I want to play GS as dps do I combine it with daggers or sns?
dagger , if you pick sns you have to go tank
Thanks!
omg thank you so much
Can you show me where to get a good pvp Greatsword / SnS build for the meta ?
Thx, i waited so long for that
If the queen had balls she whould have been the king....
Been praying for a new one since specializations 🙏 ty
how come no S&s BOW, or bow greatsword
is this game better than lost ark? LOA had perfect the perfect combat and classes, the game was just too grindy and its dying.
Every MMO is grindy to be fair, I haven't played thrones and liberty just yet, but I really enjoy how the pvp is and being able to incorporate more friends for mass pvp(GvG) or if you want to do arena(3v3)
PVE in general will always be something that requires more time, but goal is to get to end game, farm those gears specific to your class build and try to stay consistent and not burn out. Many players @ launch will play 1 week, get max level or what not and leave the game, just don't be that player and the game will come easy.
Any content creator for staff/wand that plays like they are talking?
Is GS/SNS different from SNS/GS? If so, can GS/SNS tank PvE?
Its the same thing bro, but you dont want gs in main hand because you need sns passives active ALL time, you need use gs passives only when you use gs skills, If you use gs in main hand you Will get a Lot of damage because you Will use sns passives only when you use sns skills, you always want your sns passives active because you ARE a TANK.
@@jerrybehenck8443 thanks bro
@@jerrybehenck8443 The reason to have sns in your mainhand is because you cannot use the passive block that is on every shield otherwise
@@Dome98Otaku bro im a main tank, 4700gs, you said exact what i sayed.. wtf
What about great sword wand?
all my boys in the video
Torn between bow dagger, and staff dagger 😩
I’ll start Staff/Dagger or Bow/Dagger and then level the other (Bow/Staff) so I can play those AND Staff/Bow. 4th would be GS of if I get to it before Christmas hahaha.
Gs build will require a whole different armor setup. This is also what I wanted to do as gs dagger is my long term goal.
@@Psikick4 I know, there are however armor sets that have very general usage. Such as the Wraith set. For ranged I’ll probably start with that or the Winged armor set. The winged indeed has no use on the GS. But by the time I am up to my 4th weapon I will probably be close to able to build a 2nd armor set.
@@Psikick4 True. I think in the end you could level up a second armor set definitely. It just takes time. I refuse to start an alt on a weapon combo based game. Seems to counter the idea of being able to change class with swapping weapons so incredibly hard it’s insane to me. I hope in the west we’ll get events to get more mats for this.
Greatsword wand?
so great sword and shield is the meta for ez mode?
Is it supposed to be sns gs or gs sns? Does the order make a difference?
It does. I think the weapon passive tree is only active for whatever is currently equipped primary. So if GS is active you'd have the GS tree active with its health buffs, heavy hit, etc. If Sns is primary then that tree would be active with the tank and CC buffs. Depends on what build you're going for which one you would have in primary slot. There's a keybind to switch that on the fly too though. I think typically for Sns gs most people do Sns primary.
Great breakdown.
wand + dagger not good for pve ?? i see some people saying that the sleeper build is very good and helpfull in pve :o
as DMG dealer
Im running sword/shield and wand for sure.
what some high ping classes?
Anything SnS. You dont want DPS since you'll suffer from your skills slowing down due to ping.
TBH i dont get that Tierlist why some classes got 2/2 and others gets 2/3 in the same Row ? will you make an PVE/PVP Tierlist with S/A/B/C/D/E.. ?
The first number is for Tier 1 and the second is for Tier 2. So when they put 2/3 they mean it's the rating is 2 for Tier 1 and 3 for Tier 2. 1 being the lowest, and 5 being the highest. Hope that makes sense.
Is there currently any archboss weapons for bow/wand(support) ?
Not really at the moment. I think there's one T2 wand in the Talandre update that has some healing related passive.
But not an archboss heal weapon yet.
So , staff dagger is good?
wow where is Crossboy Staff?
Seems like there is a lot of weapon balancing to be made
Yes sleep is so stupid
@@brandon6034 PRETTY MUCH. They have a lot of work to do
Vavi any news about lock on in new world?
@@humbertopineiro834 YESIR. I've already informed you guys on my stream . It won't make it into live on PC 🙌
@MASTERVAVI thanks for the info Vavi.
dagger as main weapon not viable? thats really sadge!
Dude, huge thanks for your content and approach. TnL is a very controversial game, at least for me. I'm still deciding, if i'm playing it or not, and you make a huge difference on the scale
YES THERE IT IS!!!!! ❤ Loved it!
Kanon the time-stamps are incorrect. In the GreatSword/Shield, you guys are still talking about GreatSword/Dagger at 17:40
Even its not the best you missed Bow gs ranger
the thing is ranged classes can pull to much ,in contests they always have highest and are nr 1 that shit should be nerft or at least that it doesnt pull like melee cuse thats straight out unfair and does same damage and all no downsides...
So all pc players wnat to play now like new world since ps5 and Xbox starting now
me over here dps with wand and dagger ignoring the hate lol
ya'll sleeping on crossbow + wand
GS+sns meta, got it 👍🏼
where is part 2 boiiis :D
Anyone thinking about crossbow and wand? Assassin and Healer
No ratings/discussion on Great sword/bow ?
Better write 5-5 tha 5/5! thank you!
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