@@Sigmaasphere He's calling out the Hypocrisy of the "Alpha" man wanting to sleep with as many women as possible but only women that have a low body count. Where Destiny doesn't care about a woman's body count and doesn't consider himself "Alpha"
Destiny YOU ARE MY HERO ❤️!!! I don’t watch Red Pill pod casts without you there!! YOU ARE MORE ALPHA & secure than all those men on the panel!!! 🔥🔥🔥 your incredible
@@yasminogbu8929 Isn’t Your beloved Destiny doing the same thing as those Redpill guys which is running through chicks? How is Destiny not the same as those Redpill guys?
@@techskillz617 But that is not my point. My point is both Desiny and Redpill guys are running through chicks which creating trauma on women.Are you trying to say that running through chicks is a good thing?
Crazy how these men who claim to be rational thinkers suddenly have an irrational response when Andrew tates charges get brought up. They love defending this man at all costs. Every time I see destiny with the blue hair owning red pill "masculine" dudes is always a gem for me.
Actually I thought the same thing about Destiny. He was so spot on about the Rittenhouse trial, but so lost on Tate. Like when he said Tate was undoubtedly a sex trafficker, and then appealed to unreleased evidence as proof. Claims of evidence are not evidence. They can get away with having reasonable suspicion in order to claim they have evidence. I think he's just saying this stuff in hopes of provoking Tate to come on his show
I think they need more people on this show, you could fit twice as many on screen by screwing some chairs to the ceiling and having beautiful women hang upside down.
also what's the name of the show? It isn't shown on the table or their cups yet. Hoping they can get guests matching @whatever shirts to wear to fill in the rest of the missing logo screen space
It's painful watching these guys talking so much about how women are and what they want, while at the same time constantly cutting them off as soon as they try to say something.
Yeah they should build there own podcast though and don't invite men onto the show just have them call in with nosy questions then hang up on them or talk over them. If you want to get a man's respect you have to treat them like a bum and ignore them. You'd be surprised how much info you could get out of a man too if you just play stupid and stay silent it would be a good way for a cop to bust them too. Just don't give them your input unless they ask you and if he says do you like Andrew tate? Be like oh yeah he's definitely not a rapist. ;).
Destiny's point about never going back to a world without birth control and women in the workplace is such a good one. The biggest problem with the redpill community is their delusion. They act like if they say something enough times, it will somehow manifest it. Destiny rightly pointed out that a large portion of the arguments made by that community are simply not going to happen and it makes them look silly when they continue to make such futile arguments.
*Did that world ever exist?* *Just to note, I disagree a with most redpill talking points, from what I have seen ha* Hasn't there always been forms of birth control ? The pull out method at 80 % effectiveness is a form of birth control, which has existed since the beginning of time, and you would be surprised, some of the stuff they were using even in ancient times is actually relatively similar to what we use today in pill or rubber form etc and quite effective, more so than the pull out method at least. And haven't women always been in the workplace ? I'm pretty sure there's been women working in kitchens, on farms, at bathhouses, and working as weavers and perfume makers and in entertainment etc etc, or working part time at least, pretty much since the beginning of time too. I don't know if there is a world that ever existed to go back too, where women didn't have birth control or were not members of the workplace. *What's changed* Is it not actually the culture and how birth control is used, and how women engage with the workplace that has changed ? There was a time where birth control was much more often used to have less children between a husband and wife, than it was to have sex outside of a marriage with less risk of pregnancy, or STI etc. And a time where women more often worked part time, or chose to just look after the household more often. *Sex* So could we go back to a world where sex outside of marriage is less common ? I think so. Throughout history, we have seen examples, where sex outside of marriage has gone back and forth between being common and uncommon many times within the same culture, even in short time frames. So I don't see any reason why we would be any different now, do you ? And with all the issues highlighted by the me too movement, and people even pushing for signed consent contracts now, there are things that you could predict will push the culture in this direction. Although grape can of course happen within a marriage, essentially isn't marriage at least not somewhat a form of a signed contract for consent ? Does it not solve a lot of issues that occur with casual sex, not all of them, but a lot. And I think at the point of marriage the communication between two people is going to be a lot better isn't it ? *Other possible causes for change regarding sex* Could we not also have a new sti appear where current methods such as condoms are not effective ? And depending on how deadly it was, could that not potentially change things overnight drastically ? Are People's views on abortion not also susceptible to change ? And since no method is 100% effective, could a cultural change in this view not also change things dramatically. And in connection with that, people's views on raising a child in a single parent home are also susceptible to change aren't they ? *Women in the workplace* Do you think it's possible, that culturally, women could also find more value in spending more time at home, working part time, from home, or just looking after the household, instead of working full time jobs ?. Could the cost of living fall to a point, where it's no longer the case that both parents have to work ? I think so, do we not only need a few technological advancements and changes in policy etc etc (more affordable housing etc) to make that happen ? Could we not also have more paid apprenticeships put in place as an alternative to College, allowing people to get married and have children earlier ? *Sorry ha* I understand I wrote a lot, but your comment, although interesting, is quite broad. And I understand I asked a lot of questions, ha, so if you or anyone else who actually does read all this, perhaps, just pick the first question you see that you want to answer, and then we can discuss some other things, thank you in advance for anyone who reads this and responds.
@@thepubquiz3198 I think your perspective on history is a bit warped. It's true that humans have always had the ability to mitigate the chances of getting pregnant, but there's a huge gap between a 0% risk and a 20% risk of getting pregnant. Personally, I wouldn't play those odds if it meant potentially taking on the responsibility of another human's life. With regards to sex outside of marriage, I can't recall a time when sex outside of marriage was acceptable for women--excluding those with too much power to be held accountable, such as monarchs or nobles. Similarly, it's not fair to compare preindustrial labor to the modern workplace. The family economy was completely different prior to the industrial revolution, with most people devoting their labor and resources to maintaining a meager living and not dying, and those who had the wealth not to work didn't. You could argue that there is the exception of merchants, but even that required contracts--something women weren't allowed to make in most of Europe. The point of the comment that women won't give these things up isn't to say that all women must not give those things up. What's being preserved is the choice to participate in sex or work, to have social and economic mobility, and to have some say in the matter through political representation (in a democracy, anyway).
@@humanmerelybeing1966*I think you've missed my point here, but I will address what you've said first* *"but there's a huge gap between a 0%......."* I understand your point, however, firstly, the chance is not 0 %. The contraceptive pill is 1 % and condoms is 2 % for example. And 20 % is just the pull out method, other methods included things we use in contraceptive pills etc today. What the actual % was, I don't doubt it wasn't as effective, yet it could bring the percent down to as little as 5% I have no idea. All my point was, is that birth control has always been around. *"I can't recall a time when sex outside of marriage was acceptable for women......."* It certainly has been, in periods of Roman history for example it was accepted and even celebrated.(There were many cultures where sex outside of marriage for women was the norm, or even celebrated.) One of their gods was a sex worker. And today I would say the majority of people find it acceptable, would you not ? *"Similarly, it's not fair to compare preindustrial labor....."* I do agree with everything you said here, yet all my point was, is that women have always been in the workplace, was it due to not starving etc in the past, yes, most of the time at least, yet that doesn't change the fact that women have always been active in the workplace, so I was just stating, in response to the original comment, that we can't go back to a time when that wasn't the case, because it's always been the case, that women have been in the workplace. *"The point of the comment that women won't give these things up isn't to say that all women ......"* I mean not having a choice would infer some sort of punishment such as prison or a fine or some sort of community order etc etc, and very very few people if hardly any at all are proposing such a thing. My point was that the culture could change, and women and men could choose to not have sex outside of marriage, resulting in it being the norm, meaning there could be a world, where sex outside of marriage is much rarer. And culturally women could also choose to work less often, part time, or not at all. However you didn't answer any of the questions I raised, regarding this, that could potentially cause this cultural change, so I don't know what your opinion on the matter is i'm afraid.
@@thepubquiz3198 Your questions are more like hypotheticals, and so I suppose the answer is "I guess that could happen." But the past has no bearing on those examples because humans aren't the only variable when it comes to culture, nor are they a constant. The conditions in which Roman culture existed and perpetuated itself are completely incomparable to the conditions today. And this is true of much of the past. For example, Medieval Europeans used to perform self-flagellation to protect against the plague, surrounding by singing and chanting members of the community, who would then run forward and dip strips of cloth in the blood, which they believed would keep them safe from disease. Does this mean there may be a cultural shift normalizes self-flagellation to combat microbial threats? That seems impossible in the current conditions in which modern culture exists, with modern medicine and a public education system that probably teaches students to have some general understanding of how diseases work. History proves that people are absolutely capable of rationalizing and even normalizing such extreme behavior, but they did so in a historical and material context that no longer exists. So too do our modern conditions shape the concepts and categories we use to think about the past. Without questioning those categories, we reify them in a way that universalizes what should be historicized. You can't say women have always been in the workplace, as the entire idea of work being a place outside of the home is itself a product of industrialization. Historicizing what it means for a woman to work requires considering what we mean by work in the first place, since your average Ancient Roman wasn't exactly going to the office and getting paid a wage. This historicization similarly applies to the category "woman," which similarly isn't a constant. If you deploy it in the way you've deployed it, you essentialize that category and the experience of those who belonged and belong to it. If you dissolve these categories and view them more as expressions of material conditions and political culture, your hypotheticals may start to have some answers. People alone don't shape culture. Destiny's point was that it's difficult to take liberties away from those who want them without turning to force, and I suppose you could take a longterm view and say that maybe people will just stop wanting those liberties, but it's more likely that we'll all die in a nuclear fallout well before that occurs.
@@humanmerelybeing1966 Thanks for the reply, and you do make some very good points. Yet in regards to your self-flagellation example, hardly anyone today, if anyone still believes that, ha, so it's unlikely to become the norm, and as you said there is no basis for it, yet there are plenty of men, and women, today, who do think sex outside of marriage is wrong, and there is an argument for it, so I don't see why that view can't realistically rise to a higher percentage, and from the polls i've seen it's around 30 %. And a lot of women also want to be stay at home moms but can't due to the current economy etc. From all the polls i've seen on whether women would rather be a stay at home mom than work, it seems to be around a 50/50 split currently. And around 27 % of mothers with children under 18 in the USA are currently not working. And many of the ones working will only be working part time. So it's quite likley that the majority of women today, even, only want to work part time, before any cultural change has even happened. *Workplace* I get your point, a lot of the work would have been working from home, yet women have worked in entertainment and things such as bathhouses, brothels, inns etc. for thousands of years. Was the number of different jobs they did compared to men in the workplace smaller, yes, but nonetheless they have always been in the workplace haven't they ? And it's important to note, that most men also worked from home, they would either work on their farm, or the farm owned by the lord etc, or have a stall or shop etc below their home, and the mans wife, daughters and sons would often work in that shop or stall too. I think today, if you go to work at a pub or a bar, and get paid a wage, that pub or bar would be your workplace, wouldn't it ? So why is a woman working in a tavern or bathhouse etc in the past, not considered her place of work ? Do you not consider retail to be a workplace ? As women and men would work in stores or stalls that was not a part of their home for thousands of years. *Taking away liberties* Again it's not about force, and we're not talking about a cultural shift towards something like cannibalism which although possible is incredibly unlikely, we're talking about views and practices, that are still held by if not half the population a large minority. And if the majority of people choose to not have sex outside of marriage, or the majority of women choose to only work part time, or not at all, that's not taking away their liberties, that's them making a choice with those liberties, they still have the option to work and have sex outside of marriage, it's just that people's values have changed. *To the point* Let's take one point, sex outside of marriage. Again clearly the me too movement has highlighted problems with sex outside of marriage, and we are finding it very difficult to solve these issues. And because many men are afraid of getting falsely accused, or there being a misunderstanding, and many women feel they aren't being believed due to the nature of the crime, do you not think it's plausible that firstly, more men could start to think, you know what, i'm just going to wait until marriage rather than risking getting a woman pregnant who I don't even care for, let alone want to spend the rest of my life raising a child with, and wait until marriage rather than getting falsely accused by a woman I don't really know, and or trust ? And don't you think it's plausible that more women will think, because of the nature of the crime during a casual relationship or hookup, men seem to be able to just get away with the crime, maybe I will just wait until marriage, when I meet a person that I can really trust and feel comfortable around, certainly comfortable enough to say a firm no to, when I don't want to have sex with them ? And do you not think it's plausible that both men and women will start to think, you know what, it's really not good for a child to grow up in a single parent home, so I will just wait until marriage, when I truly believe I want to spend the rest of my life with this person. Again condoms are only 98 % effective, and in reality, if you are have a regular sex life, most people are going to find themselves in a position where they have sex without a condom at some point. Also in reality, condoms are often not used properly, so the number is lower than 98 %. And If you are having regular sex without condoms, I believe on average, pregnancy will occur in six months and this number drops for younger women. For younger women, who this is more applicable to, it's 2 months, and with condoms, that would be 8 years on average. So if you have sex with protection from say 18, chances are you are going to get pregnant by the age of 26 on average. And a man will likely get someone pregnant by 26. Yet there's still a 5 % chance that you will get pregnant, or get someone pregnant, within a year with condoms. Couldn't culture change, where more people don't want to take these risks > *Abortion* And you could respond with, well women could just get abortions, yet again, if this is your response, do you not think this view could also change ? Considering so many people now, are already against it, If not we can discuss that two, if again, this is indeed your response.
listen tate is not a good person but he is saying stuff that should be said already he do inspire youngers to be men even if not the kind of men you would want them to be so many people stuck doing weed and playing games and they dont even growing to be mens idc if he makes them materialistic people atleast they will grow to be mans
Ofc he has some good ideas when it comes to what a man should be. That does not mean although that he is implementing this idea in a positive way that will make men better. That’s exactly why destiny was saying there needs to be a different role model for men that doesn’t give people false information when it comes to becoming a “real man”. Tate goes about everything in a very fraudulent and unethical way. He has some very good ideas but should not be taken into consideration when it comes to success. It’s not realistic. He is not the epitome of a true man. He is rich and successful and he uses his hustlers university pyramid scheme to make himself more money. It all goes back to him. He looks for people that are insecure and that lack confidence and takes advantage of these things. If you truly want to be successful yes you have to work for it but not in the ways he boasts about.
@@drewmoser3965 and i believe most of what he said is true for this generation in terms of how to make money and be successfull do not get married do not have kids focus on yourself 100% and learn new skill every couple of months Use the hustlers university to learn amd invest in what you intrested and than use that money you earned for buisnesses or real estate 5 years of giving 100% there is no reason you wouldnt be wealthy
At 17:51 I love how a woman tries to say something for the very first time and she's immediately cut off to let a guy that's already spoken say something more lol. These guys are borderline disrespectful😅
@Mickey Mouse I did watch it, and I liked the tone and the talk quite a lot. But clearly he is on one side and everyone else is on "the other", even if they are finding a lot of common ground.
I just realized what the redpill is trying to do, when destiny talked about how far women come and what they achieved, the redpill doesnt want to elevate men to that level but just wants to bring down women to where they were 70-80 years ago and thats why the redpill is bad because how are we to achieve any kind of progress in anything If all their trying to do is go backwards
What an insane comment, telling men to make more money, get in good shape and be masculine is trying to regress women to the past? That makes zero sense
The last two Podcasts made me realise how *Unique* Destiny is at what he does, we shouldn’t take that for granted. He comes into these adversarial spaces and Commands *Respect* instantaneously. Even to the point that you can see that his interlocutors are very careful and Conciliatory in their demeanour and disagreements with him.
@@harpsmith8570 *You are 100% correct.* It’s scary in a way, because he is the only one who is equipped and commands enough respect to reach into these, otherwise inaccessible spaces.
@@leehalloway8787 Exactly!! It’s pretty incredible. That’s why his opponents walk on eggshells at times and are very respectful, because they know he can fire back without hesitation and breakdown their logical reasoning. It’s an amazing skill.
@@roguis3451 not necessarily…autism is a spectrum and some people with autism on the “high functioning” part of the spectrum can be exceptionally articulate. .. it’s not always like the “ Rain Man” stereotype.
Destiny is one of the few leftists who I can tell is genuinely good at debating people and has gotten better since 2016. He shows respect for the other person and doesn't act like a douche like Vaush or Hasan. Still needs to debate Ryan Dawson again lol
Not a Tate fan but it might just be boasting. I can boast saying I did 9/11 but that doesn't mean I actually did it or that I'm guilty of it. Now I may or may not have done 9/11
@Mika 98 but he layed out exactly what a trafficking scheme would be. It'd be different if he said ya I got 30 girlfriends working for me. "Which he said aswell" plus who brags about stealing, manipulating, and lieing to camgirls?
That girl with the flower is a pick-me. First of all, supporting your partner no matter what they do is a juvenile choice. Obviously, love and support your partner and be there for them even during their failures, but following your partner blindly even during wreckless decisions that actively hurt the stability of their relationships and families is foolish. Secondly, expecting women to work full-time AND take care of all the domestic duties: most women are not going to do that.
He just likes the sound of his own voice and, he also recognises and hates that he's so far removed from the "alpha" stereotype he'll do anything to discredit it.. Bitch driven.. The version of masculinity he's putting up is typically wokey and feeble.. Genuine men will have to sometimes elbow some poor person out of the way, he's the person that hates the idea of getting elbowed.
well guys on the right like Matt Walsh always talk about how they can’t get anyone on the left to have a discussion with. Most people on the left except destiny rather protest then speak with people they disagree with. They’re cowards.
This was a great talk. We need more public good-faith conversations like this. It really goes to show that when you sit down and talk to someone with an open mind, you really do agree with each other more than you thought even if you're on different sides of the political spectrum.
That was a great talk. I think one additional point about how to make men great again is: Pursue your life in a way that makes society around you better. It is infinitely better and more rewarding to be a plumber or a teacher that makes 50K a year than someone who pimps women or dropship for 100K. When you strive to create good around you, your life becomes incredible. You all of a sudden have purpose, have a sense of community, have everything that men lack these days.
What an absolute shit take. "Limit yourself, make not even enough to afford a 2 bedroom one bath house in the bad part of town, plunge toilets and work 80 hours a week" piss off
Agreed and this is kinda what destiny is saying too, in previous conversations atleast. Your value is what you contribute to society, not how rich you are. Exploiting women or dripshipping is a negative to society. Its kinda annoying actually to me personaly. Im working towards a phd in philosophy and people from back home allways ask "how are you gonna get work, earn good money etc" and i dont care at all. I do it bc i think its my calling and where i can help humankind the most, but people are so focused on making money.
exactly and i think a lot of people miss that it makes men way more interesting and attractive when they pursue something they love and focus on their own interests as well! and theres such a huge disconnect from the red pill i dont understand they want traditional women, but they dont have traditional lives and jobs and the only bring on untraditional women. like what is going on here im so confused what are the men following this content thinking what do they actually want?
Just in case anyone was wondering, welders do not make $120k a year. A fraction of a fraction of welders can train to weld under water. Those guys make tons of money. Source: I used to be a welder
Lineman also don’t make 200k after 5-7 years. Their numbers seem very silly they are taking like the 1 percent of that trade and saying it’s easy to make that in that trade. Unless you’re working overtime you’re still under like 90k after 5 years in. You can make a crazy amount of money in most fields if you get lucky they should be saying what the median pay is not what the top makes.
What if instead you go to school for engineering, have a much safer job, make maybe a little less or a little more money, pay off school debt, and then live a life with a more… idk… less hazardous daily routine? Underwater welding? Fkin linemen? Hats off to them but I don’t blame anyone who get straight up scared from the tasks.
If you're not blindly devoted to your "I have to hate Destiny" tribe you realise very quickly how impressively intelligent and morally enlightened he is.
except for the idiotic 23 year old boy who mentioned having a civil war with women, to prevent them from having rights. This way we can go back to what is "traditional" like in the 50s. Keep in mind this 23 year old boy never lived in the 50s. So his view of "traditional" is based on BS. I like the other guy who admits to being abstinent. It makes sense. If you want a virtuous woman, be virtuous yourself.
I was looking for this comment. I agree. These men get extremely triggered when a woman tries to speak up and God forbid she disagrees with them. They give men the respect to speak their peace and can set aside their differences however not with the women. The men literally turn red, jaws clenched and spit venom when it comes to the women.. its so uncomfortable.
I have a sneaky suspicion that they deliberately get a lot of not too bright girls on this podcast to make themselves look good. Almost all (not all, but most) of the women I’ve seen on this podcast don’t have fully formed ideas and can’t articulate to save themselves. I want to see them have Louise Perry, Julie Bindel, Kathleen Stock, Mary Harrington and the like on, and see if they can pull apart their ideas so easily. It’s a bit pathetic - but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and posit that maybe they’re only just getting big enough now to actually attract those kids of guests.
Ofcourse we can do whatever we want! Now go be the town bicycle you always wanted to be, we don't care. Be independent, free and brave! We don't give af!
@@chadwarden8664 Tbh all the 'conservative' western women aren't conservative at all. They're just politically conservative but socially still liberal just not progressives like most liberal women tend to be.
I take care of my appearance, obviously. Im a professor at 26/yo in accounting, im a virgin and have a fiancé. I would say im pretty conservative. Surely compared to my peers I am. lol
@@scarletcrusade77 Im a professor at 26/yo in accounting, Im a virgin and have a fiancé. I would say im pretty conservative in my ways. Surely compared to my peers I am. lol Politics wise I also tend to be right-wing because of the way that the banking system and Neo-liberalism works.
Pre selection is a thing. Women love men that can bag a bunch of other women. Women have an immense of amount of group bias compared to males. What's more is women don't care about purity when it comes to a male virginity, women do not care nor value it.
You know its hard not to roll my eyes at these types, when consistently they dig their heels in the ground over the "one-sided open relationship" horseshit
Definitely agree. A woman may tolerate a successful man that sleeps with other women, but she won't like it and it she will resent him and you're Definitely not respecting her.
The thing that I'd don't understand is, isn't destiny in an open relationship that's apparently very one sided, or does he just think his open relationship isn't one side.
Yeah the main 2 ways that can work out is if the girl gets off on it or/and the guy is bi and mainly has fun with guys. Another way is if the girl can have online toys or bfs.
Oh my god...Destiny fans are such dick riders. I saw destiny taking Multiple "L" from Chase. Didn't Destiny tried to potray traditional marriage between young people as prostitution and got destroyed by Chase and Marry? Why you think Destiny didn't upload the full podcast?
That's generally how people handle civil discussions. Give a point when it's due if it's a fair point. The same works the other way around. That is if you want an actual discussion, and not just to "win".
What's the ghost of Otto von Bismarck doing in the background there? And the Child of the Corn between those guys. Someone needs to help these spirits pass on, oh lord. 🙏
Does it sound like a trafficker? - Pretends to be lover to get a young girls to move to a country where laws are lax and they may not know the language. - takes their passport - monitors them on home cameras - gets them indebted once they arrive - has a loyal 'head model' to keep them in line. - makes up "tax" they have to pay to collect more of the money they make scamming desperate men. - denigrates and psychological manipulation. Anything I miss?
⏱Timestamps for this video! 0:00 - Destiny and Madison discuss Andrew Tate's materialistic message 0:40 - Destiny explains why he dislikes Andrew Tate 6:26 - Selling out to gain popularity 9:28 - Men's issues in a feminist society 11:28 - Women's Success and Incorporating Masculinity 12:14 - Men's Issues and the Need for Support 14:57 - Masculine Empowerment Network and the Core Four Prescription 20:09 - Understanding Boundaries and the Core Four Prescription 22:28 - Asymmetry in Relationships 23:06 - Supporting Men and Women in Relationships 24:16 - Traditional Gender Roles 28:01 - Collapse and Crumbling Culture 30:17 - Women and Autonomy 31:25 - Diversity in Western Society 33:21 - Viewer questions on masculinity and femininity 33:53 - Advice on celibacy and sexual temptation 37:51 - Accountability and Feminism 🧙♂✨ Generated with Houdini Chrome extension.
Andrew Tate takes advantage of young men who lack social skills, self-awareness and good parenting (the missing of a good father figure). They are easily influenced because of their emotional pain by not having women. He is essentially a cult leader that created a whole new niche on the web where scammers can make big money.
He isn't ruining people lives or even really taking advantage, but he is wrong about a lot of things and materialistic but I'd love to know what damage he is actually causing to young men
@@metalmythology6282 preaching to find a traditional life style and woman while he lives the most untraditional way possible, talking about women like they are objects same as these dudes are. look dude just because tate says a few common sense things here and there doesn't mean we close our eyes to all the other bull shit he talks about. literally makes young boys think that women are only sexual demons not to be trusted or sm shit. while leading the most promiscuous life possible lmfao
@@metalmythology6282 he’s causing them to further drown their unconscious issues in materialism which will lessen their already low chances for resolving them
@@metalmythology6282 He is selling them snake oil and telling them not to focus on their real issues. His damage to those men is the same as the quak that tells people with cancer to eat veggies and buy his crystals instead of going to chemotherapy.
I do think people vastly exaggerate how many genuine supporters he has , a lot of people who follow him don’t love or hate him, he’s just a interesting entertaining figure that blew up and people are along for the ride. Most people actually find him corny 😂
Destiny did pretty well on the whatever podcast considering he knew what he was walking into with his stance on a lot of subjects. I may not agree with a lot of the things he spoke about but I respect his passion and his stoic stance. He's definitely a "high value man" that the red pill manosphere speak about, they're just "uncomfortable" with the fact he's "succeeded" by taking a different approach and belief system.
@@ChrisSmooth24 it's a podcast, it doesn't need to be very professional lol. It still seems way better than any other RP podcast, and this type of episodes seem pretty interesting.
@@justaguy6613 it’s literally a copy paste of every other rp podcast and yet it’s still bottom the barrel lol. I mean if you find a couple dudes bringing bimbos on just to make fun of them entertaining, then that’s kinda sad but to each their own.
@@ChrisSmooth24 I don't watch their stuff, nor do I find it that entertaining in clips. Just that this episode and one more was nice. Both had more than bimbos for guests. And I think it was the last few episodes where I found them. You're right it's sad if it's just two guys dunking on hoes with low iq the whole time tho. No crap it is.
Dear destiny . Thankyou so much for actually caring about creating common ground . And actually caring about young men . It's not hard to tell that you know your stuff . Respect man. YOU'RE a G
And the guy you were talking to . The host. He also seemed genuine and to want to also create this common ground . I hope more people see how important these specific types on convo are . Finally there is hope that realistic foundations are being built.
"HOLD ON, he's been waiting to speak." Guy has spoken like 10 times before this. Why even have these girls on if you won't let them talk. These dudes just don't respect and hate women
Oh my god...Destiny fans are such dick riders. I saw destiny taking Multiple "L" from Chase. Didn't Destiny tried to potray traditional marriage between young people as prostitution and got destroyed by Chase and Marry? Why you think Destiny didn't upload the full podcast?
If there were no women in the group, it would be just a bunch of dudes talking about women. But since there are women there, what they say about women gets validated to some degree. It's a prop (figuratively and structurally for their arguments).
Saw this live and man, I legit hated the people on this podcast more than anyone in ages. The religious viewpoints tainting every talking point. The virtue signaling. Folks literally saying towards the end of the podcast that women should "tough it out" if they're being abused in a relationship and how divorce is worse for children than being around abuse. These people were f*ckin wild.
Oh my god...Destiny fans are such dick riders. I saw destiny taking Multiple "L" from Chase. Didn't Destiny tried to potray traditional marriage between young people as prostitution and got destroyed by Chase and Marry? Why you think Destiny didn't upload the full podcast?
Ah yes, because our history of religion driven societal norms have served us so well. What a joke. And now that things have changed, religion must be the answer. Guess what, that genie is not going back in the bottle. Participation in organized religion in the United States has steadily trended downward and it's not stopping. Maybe these people need to examine why religion itself has failed society before touting it as a solution.
the accountability Destiny is talking about when it comes to a woman getting pregnant and have to care for that child for 18 years is understated on all these men talk about "pro life" options. It's not an option for women. I'm so proud of him for standing up on this topic and I'm so glad for men like him.
What is crazy is he used abortions and birth control as a means to say that women don’t have accountability but then soon as this means they will you get live with a child for 18 years he did in turns around and uses abortions and birth control as a means to get out of doing so, but if y’all take that away because I want women to be accountable then there wouldn’t be those things to help the woman in the man who aren’t ready for the kids
i noticed it too i’m anti abortion but i’m also a woman and his response of basically “choose better” got me thinking “fuck you then. abortion it is” 😅 completely out of left field for me, but i guess i’m a woman and for women before i am anti anything else
@@mr.peanutbutter5423 it's harsh but he's not entirely false when he says that, every relationship is different though so we can't say definitively what is needed. Typically though if a woman were to get knocked up, or pregnant from her bf from a couple months of dating, odds are that guy is not gonna stick around, so in a way choosing better is a good way to prevent these things from happening whether it's choosing a better man, or making better choices to not let this become a possibility. No excuses made for the abandonments, just a different perspective
Imagine you're a father and you find out your son is going to the Tates for advice on how to be a man and improve their life. Yikes, talk about what it must be like to feel like a failure.
imagine going for advice to a grown ass man with blue hair and more feminine than his own wife, the wife that at the same time is the town bicycle that everyone gets to ride..
Thank you Destiny for providing reasonable political discussion and commentary from the left. As someone whose political disposition is left leaning, I’ve found myself leaning further right over recent years due to the inability of the left to have healthy discourse and the purity spiral that cascades from that. Thank you for showing people that it can be done.
It's amazing how much these "alpha males" are threatened by Destiny. Aren't alphas supposed to not even give AF about those type of men and focus on "the prize"?
Weak men like destiny are the most dangerous in the world, School shooters have more in common with destiny than any of the other men sitting at the table know this
Why do these podcasts always have a gaggle of women that basically don't do anything but agree with the charisma vacuums? Do they get paid to be there or something?
I would just say to any guys out there that actually support Andrew Tate and think their is nothing wrong with his business, raise your hand if you would be thrilled the day your daughter comes home and says "hey dad, I just wanted to let you know that I've decided not to enroll in college this semester. I took the money you and mommy gave me for books and tuition and I went out and got my new property of the Tates tattoo. The rest of the money I spent on a plane ticket to Romania. I'm going to live at the Tate compound and start my new career as an only fans girl. But don't worry, Andrew says he's going to take care of me, he said that he will keep track of all the money and he's even going to deduct the taxes for me. I'm not sure when I'll be back , if ever, I mean I'm going to be a money generating assest now for the Tate organization so they aren't exactly gonna be thrilled about me taking time off. But maybe In a couple years I can earn the right to visit you guys. Anyway thanks for raising me and putting me in position to take advantage of this amazing totally above board and legit opportunity. I bet you can't wait to brag to all your friends at the country club. See ya daddy, sorry I mean Carl, Andrew is my daddy now".
Yeah definitely not. Same goes for my daughter saying she's doing onlyfans. I'll do my best so that she has some actual skillset other than her...assets. I'd even be fine with her being a model (though not by much) over that, and there's a lot of shady stuff in that industry too.
I like the Tate brothers. However, I condemn the webcam scheme they ran. It isn't very respectful for you to assume that we can't think for ourselves. It's like telling a grown man that stealing is wrong.
Isn’t the bigger question “Why do you like Andrew Tate” especially when you are in your late 30s and 40s (yes Fresh and Fit and fans) 18-25 year olds I get, but some of these people are old as.
@@daizenmarcurio he’s also a con artist making money off fans by exploiting their naivety. Look in isolation in some of his videos he come across as a good laugh and cool guy, but he made his money through illegal gains, and now he’s exploiting the younger generations. All the useful advise he gives is centuries old and nothing new, what’s really changed is less active parenting.
@@dave24-73you obviously have no fucking idea what tate created the hustlers university for. You can choose which path to take with membership. Anything from just advice and direction as well as legit sources to follow in order to take your own path. Or you can choose one of dozens of legit paying jobs working and getting paid pretty freaking well. You haye with ignorance. Thats just dispicable
@@daizenmarcurio that isn’t the only way he made his money, are you not following what the lawyers are saying. Hustlers University is a classic example of how he is manipulating young people. Let’s just watch and see how it all plays out, but if he ends up in prison, it won’t be long before he becomes old news. Lover boy technique is against the law, tax evasion is against the law, laundering is against the law these he has admitted to indirectly, rape ( if proven) is against the law. If you do a simple google search you will see that it is normal for people to be held for up to 3 months and there is a paper from the Germany with the stats, also some of the videos since his release will hurt his character if he goes to court, so he is helping the prosecution at the moment, that may be one reason they released him. Anyway let’s wait and see what happens. Even Capone was taken down on tax evasion alone.
Absolutely insane that at 15:56 one of the women guests finally chimes after them essentially being silent and is told to wait becuase the man has been wanting to speak... as if he hasn't spoken plenty the entire podcast.
Destiny completely nailed everything wrong with Tate. As Ben Shapiro stated about him, he seems to acknowledge the right problems he sees in society which gave him his audience… but his prescriptions are all dead wrong.
What prescriptions coming from Tate are wrong ? I’m no fan boy or nothing but I always thought people are so damn easily offended and judgemental that it’s ridicolus.
@@Yo-Ah-Kim they have cognitive dissonance because his humor is offensive they convince themselves they don’t he’s putting on a act as a youtube entertainer they hate they fake arrogance it makes their liberal blood boil
@Bronson the Nomad the only thing I get from Tate is that his core message is that he wants men to be men again. That I 10000% agree on. Especially when I see blue haired guys like Destiny.
Only 15 minutes in and must say one of the best podcasts on the internet about this subject till date, period. Finally a normal adult discussion without screaming and throwing names at eachother. Letting eachother speak. The discussions so far have been so extreme to either side that this nuaced debate/look on the subject is very much needed.
If a day comes that, god forbid, your daughter gets trafficked. Who do you think will come to fight tooth and nail for her? Those who “scream” and take the streets for her freedom? or Destiny? Who will “politely debate” for her freedom?
@@asenseofunreality6880 if Andrew Tate was holding your daughter hostage in Romania, making her cam girl for her dinner, would you ask Destiny to go and “politely debate” guys on podcasts to let her free?
Might want to watch the whole thing like 4 or 5 hours either destiny's people only used 30 mins cause that is when he talked the most or it was the best part of the whole thing.
Of course it would be a black woman in here praising his dumb ass, smh If destiny was black youd brand him as a nerd, That's why Donald Glover AKA childish gambino and Jordan peele 2 very pro black nerds but have white women
@@TheSyntaxE true, but open relationships r built off of insecurities, whereas other relationships just tend to have them because the vast majority of ppl struggle with them
I cannot believe that is even a discussion - Tate is one of the lowest forms of life, leeching on others, providing nothing of value to the society, only making it worse. You cannot become a "high value man" by abusing women and tricking men. The fact, that this scum gets any amount of acceptance is terrifying.
So telling young men that stop focusing in promiscuous women, work in yourself, focus on your carrier/skills to be a better provider is such wrong message to you? I honestly think many people hate the guy's personality without even listen what he really say
@@david2012slayerI think that Tate telling men that he manipulated new women to do sex work for him and skimmed 80% of their $ for "taxes" and how men should do what he did is a wrong message.
@@Stefan996 ok, in wich part of his philosophy he said that? and why is it when women VOLUNTARILY agreed to work in the s3x industry suddenly all are mentally vulnerable, naive, and need to be rescued? If a person go to a job interview and the future boss say you gonna work for me an make X amount in sales, but your only get 20% of that sale, and you accept that condition, then how are you the victim here? isnt that pretty much like any other sale's job? See, personally I could not care more about the guy, if he is free or in jail, if he is a good or a bad guy, but what I can not stand its when people just follow ideas based in what they have been told to think, without rationnally questioning themselves if what they hear is true or not. Similar case, J.K Rowling, cancelled out of nothing, just because some hyper sensitive growns up felt offended. Absolute madness
Oh my god...Destiny fans are such dick riders. I saw destiny taking Multiple "L" from Chase. Didn't Destiny tried to potray traditional marriage between young people as prostitution and got destroyed by Chase and Marry?
@@JUNO-69 I feel like she was pretty responsive when asked questions which weren't about her sex life, she seemed pretty open to talking about concepts like feminism and patriarchy. Bare in mind the question was originally "relationship status" which she answered.
@@Sigmaasphere No. That girl with rose mentioned how sad it was that women didn't get an education and didn't explore things in life to do onlyFans content, which in her mind is a life altering decision (it isn't), and Destiny said that that is exactly what happens with conservatives telling women it's cool that they don't get an education and don't explore things in life to start pumping out kids at 19 with a relationship that is basically juvenile. Chase just says "ah but my option is based", there is no good point in there. Both of these are bad to do when young and inexperienced and unsure of what you want in life, but at least you can delete your onlyfans and move on, in 99% of cases, women make like 20 bucks off of it and noone ever finds out.
I can attest to what Destiny says my husband is a plumber and a very hard worker.. himself all of his friends or the most rugged men I've ever met. These are the men i grew up around, carpenters, plumbers, tradesmen of all varieties and we all have families and happy fulfilling lives.😊
@@dissectingdarkness3560 I was surprised he said so little too. Dude is charismatic, young, but willing to stay a virgin until marriage. Could be some interesting convo there. On the other hand, it's nice to see someone who listens more than they talk. Perhaps it's the topic, if this was more "politics" he probably would have say more
@@devilsadvocate6098 He just didn't seem to have space to jump in because of the other John next to him. The moron with the watch, suit and greasy hair who instantly agreed with Destiny on the foibles of gluttonous consumerism.
he seemed to be alluding to having a civil war between men and women, to prevent women from going to school and working. Handmaid tale type shit. Really sick. The weird thing is, he's ONLY 23, with that mind set.
@@voguehaven5154 actually it seems to be the younger men having these mindsets more often. I think maybe things have gotten so vacuous and crappy/nihilistic for men that without life experience or wisdom they fall into these fucking bizarre extremist thoughts like that. I saw Melina kinda widen her eyes and then take a sip of water and not say anything and I thought "same girl, same". lol.
@@voguehaven5154 I believe he was not saying thats what he wanted, just a possible hypothetical if society reached a point, calm down a little. Theres nothing weird about that by the way, your dumbest idealistic ideas are when youre young
@@cryptocaesar8972 well, I think it weird because he is fighting for things to be like they were in the 50s, a time he never lived in cause he's 23. In fact, no one on the panel lived in the 50s, but they speak of emulating that time period as if they lived and breathed it. I guess they are just fighting for some ideal in their imagination and hoping it will somehow be a reality. Good Luck!
Thousands of women had to drop from work to look after the kids during pandemics. I understand that Destiny is trying to persuade them in their field but maaan that’s an unfair point of view.
I may not agree with Destiny on most things but I can respect him for actually going to talk to people that have different views than him. Thats all the respect i give him.
How do they find these girls they all look either miserable or disinterested bro, these podcasts are so lame, glad to see Destiny come in and make it entertaining
He doesn't. He was basically trying to flirt with the girls beside him the whole podcast and it seemed like he was coming off needy and getting shot down.
@@bennymountain1 pearly is still not picked yet , and the femsapiens got picked by a fifty something guy it’s not the young , beautiful, rich Prince Charming lmao
26:08 When have humans really EVER been "happy?" There has never been a time in human history where the world has been content or at peace. Being human is a struggle and always will be unless we miraculously reach a point where we can all accept each others difference and co-exist without fighting and forcing our own beliefs and lifestyles onto one another.
I love asking Tate fans this. If Hitchens was alive, do you think Tate would’ve been able to intellectually argue against Hitchens and what argument could Tate make that Hitchens wouldn’t be able to refute? Like a single Tate fan can give me a good answer. They know damn well Hitchens would’ve been able to expose Tate on that scale.
Tate fans, in the overwhelming majority, will not have heard of Hitchens. I'd imagine most people who have listened to enough of Hitchens wouldn't find themselves under the spell of the Tate Brothers.
@@drewmoser3965 Im a casual Tate fan simply because hes funny, as the clip in this video of Destiny showed where he was railing left wing people for being uptight losers while Tate brothers look like a good hang. I also liked Hitchens when he was alive, but I think time has shown alot of that era of intellectuals wrong in some ways, they used to spend alot of time majorly attacking religion and now the common consensus is that people are inherently religious, in lack of traditional religion they create some new "religion" without even knowing what theyre doing, as they lack purpose, which is helping lead to the divisiveness in our society, and could be our ultimate downfall.
You shouldn't brag about sleeping with multiple women like Andrew Tate. No, you should be like Destiny who's WIFE sleeps with multiple men, and be proud of that of course 🤡 Surely we can find a middle ground between toxic and cucked, right guys?
I really would like the men in these podcasts to clarify what they mean when they say they would like women to return to being feminine. Women who are single and older with no children or with grown up children are not unhappy. If men are unhappy and want to return to masculinity fine I have no problem with that but don't try to do so at the expense of our gains. Getting an education, working and investing in ourselves when men are a big let down cos they are not responsible for themselves has been great for us. Why should we be shackled to loser men???? There are not enough good men to go around and we have dealt with it. Leave us alone.
Don't you believe that your feminist ideology is the reason Redpill going popular? Don't tell guys to not follow redpill while you are also subscribing to radical feminist ideology and surely we have tried your feminist ideology and everyone is unhappy ,mostly woman.
L take. "Women who are single and older with no children or with grown up children are not unhappy." You seemed to have missed the point about older single women with no children being far and away the #1 consumers of anti-depressants in the US. Not just "women" in general but specifically "older single women with no children". And when you say "there are not enough good men", what you really mean is "there are not enough men that fit my standards so the problem must be the men (i.e. the world) and not my standards".
"during ww2 a certain person was elected because of how different and more extreme he was" I uh, I dont claim much history knowledge, but hes not talking about Adolf right? The guy who wasn't voted in?
He was voted in, but I don’t know if his ideas were really seen as that extreme. Society was racist af at the time and society did blame the Jews for WWI’s defeat. Had Germany not been forced to pay back 100% of the reparations of WWI, I think there’s a good chance the second war wouldn’t have happened
John Doyle seems to think you can just ignore or "get over" the current social issues to improve the world. He wants to call everyone else crazy, and put them in jail or worse. His ideal society is no utopia, and it doesn't include everybody.
I know he’s an articulate young man but why is a 23 year old telling people about how relationships and the world needs to be. How much experience is this based off of lol
Who do you think is 23? I hope you aren’t saying Destiny. I myself don’t know the ages of anyone on this podcast other than vaguely Destiny and Melina so if you’re talking about some else my bad
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Destiny shames Redpill guys for having sex with multiple woman but he himself is also running through chicks. Isn't that Hypocrisy?
@@Sigmaasphere He's calling out the Hypocrisy of the "Alpha" man wanting to sleep with as many women as possible but only women that have a low body count. Where Destiny doesn't care about a woman's body count and doesn't consider himself "Alpha"
Destiny YOU ARE MY HERO ❤️!!! I don’t watch Red Pill pod casts without you there!! YOU ARE MORE ALPHA & secure than all those men on the panel!!! 🔥🔥🔥 your incredible
@@yasminogbu8929 Isn’t Your beloved Destiny doing the same thing as those Redpill guys which is running through chicks? How is Destiny not the same as those Redpill guys?
@@techskillz617 But that is not my point. My point is both Desiny and Redpill guys are running through chicks which creating trauma on women.Are you trying to say that running through chicks is a good thing?
Damn I think this podcast needs some more people on it
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3:55 the asian girl in the backs face is priceless when he starts talking about having multiple women to get more popular xD
Yea man, I find 318 is the magic number for podcast guests. Anything less just isn't going big enough.
Nah. It needs to die
Definitely needs more dolls for people.
Five minutes in and Destiny is already so based, she is really a perfect example of what all young women should aspire to be. Amazin'.
She definitely an exceptional high value black woman , girl bossing her way through all these Betamale podcasts 😂😂
but she doesn't know what an NFT is!
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Crazy how these men who claim to be rational thinkers suddenly have an irrational response when Andrew tates charges get brought up. They love defending this man at all costs. Every time I see destiny with the blue hair owning red pill "masculine" dudes is always a gem for me.
Like some desperately wanting his charges to real 🫢
Actually I thought the same thing about Destiny. He was so spot on about the Rittenhouse trial, but so lost on Tate.
Like when he said Tate was undoubtedly a sex trafficker, and then appealed to unreleased evidence as proof. Claims of evidence are not evidence. They can get away with having reasonable suspicion in order to claim they have evidence.
I think he's just saying this stuff in hopes of provoking Tate to come on his show
Yet they found nothing on Andrew or his brother...so why are we still talkin' about these charges?
@@anonspectre1796 that's not true. They are still under house arrest pending determination of trial
@@jifeak what evidence against him exactly? Name like 3 of them
I think they need more people on this show, you could fit twice as many on screen by screwing some chairs to the ceiling and having beautiful women hang upside down.
also what's the name of the show? It isn't shown on the table or their cups yet. Hoping they can get guests matching @whatever shirts to wear to fill in the rest of the missing logo screen space
Even more interesting if the host was the actual Dracula
@@manateeRUST Whatever.. 🙄
@@asmbeats5369 where?
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It's painful watching these guys talking so much about how women are and what they want, while at the same time constantly cutting them off as soon as they try to say something.
these men are lost souls. The less other men emulate the these types of men, the better off they will be.
I didn't like the way they kept cutting Destiny off either.
@@thereccher8746 there's a 40 year old man on the panel with no long term successful relationship wearing a suit. Its just clown shit at its finest.
Yeah they should build there own podcast though and don't invite men onto the show just have them call in with nosy questions then hang up on them or talk over them.
If you want to get a man's respect you have to treat them like a bum and ignore them. You'd be surprised how much info you could get out of a man too if you just play stupid and stay silent it would be a good way for a cop to bust them too. Just don't give them your input unless they ask you and if he says do you like Andrew tate? Be like oh yeah he's definitely not a rapist. ;).
You see the two girls sitting behind those guys. I’m not a body language expert but I don’t see many happy people that look like that
Destiny's point about never going back to a world without birth control and women in the workplace is such a good one. The biggest problem with the redpill community is their delusion. They act like if they say something enough times, it will somehow manifest it. Destiny rightly pointed out that a large portion of the arguments made by that community are simply not going to happen and it makes them look silly when they continue to make such futile arguments.
*Did that world ever exist?*
*Just to note, I disagree a with most redpill talking points, from what I have seen ha*
Hasn't there always been forms of birth control ? The pull out method at 80 % effectiveness is a form of birth control, which has existed since the beginning of time, and you would be surprised, some of the stuff they were using even in ancient times is actually relatively similar to what we use today in pill or rubber form etc and quite effective, more so than the pull out method at least. And haven't women always been in the workplace ? I'm pretty sure there's been women working in kitchens, on farms, at bathhouses, and working as weavers and perfume makers and in entertainment etc etc, or working part time at least, pretty much since the beginning of time too. I don't know if there is a world that ever existed to go back too, where women didn't have birth control or were not members of the workplace.
*What's changed*
Is it not actually the culture and how birth control is used, and how women engage with the workplace that has changed ? There was a time where birth control was much more often used to have less children between a husband and wife, than it was to have sex outside of a marriage with less risk of pregnancy, or STI etc. And a time where women more often worked part time, or chose to just look after the household more often.
*Sex*
So could we go back to a world where sex outside of marriage is less common ? I think so. Throughout history, we have seen examples, where sex outside of marriage has gone back and forth between being common and uncommon many times within the same culture, even in short time frames. So I don't see any reason why we would be any different now, do you ? And with all the issues highlighted by the me too movement, and people even pushing for signed consent contracts now, there are things that you could predict will push the culture in this direction. Although grape can of course happen within a marriage, essentially isn't marriage at least not somewhat a form of a signed contract for consent ? Does it not solve a lot of issues that occur with casual sex, not all of them, but a lot. And I think at the point of marriage the communication between two people is going to be a lot better isn't it ?
*Other possible causes for change regarding sex*
Could we not also have a new sti appear where current methods such as condoms are not effective ? And depending on how deadly it was, could that not potentially change things overnight drastically ? Are People's views on abortion not also susceptible to change ? And since no method is 100% effective, could a cultural change in this view not also change things dramatically. And in connection with that, people's views on raising a child in a single parent home are also susceptible to change aren't they ?
*Women in the workplace*
Do you think it's possible, that culturally, women could also find more value in spending more time at home, working part time, from home, or just looking after the household, instead of working full time jobs ?. Could the cost of living fall to a point, where it's no longer the case that both parents have to work ? I think so, do we not only need a few technological advancements and changes in policy etc etc (more affordable housing etc) to make that happen ? Could we not also have more paid apprenticeships put in place as an alternative to College, allowing people to get married and have children earlier ?
*Sorry ha*
I understand I wrote a lot, but your comment, although interesting, is quite broad. And I understand I asked a lot of questions, ha, so if you or anyone else who actually does read all this, perhaps, just pick the first question you see that you want to answer, and then we can discuss some other things, thank you in advance for anyone who reads this and responds.
@@thepubquiz3198 I think your perspective on history is a bit warped. It's true that humans have always had the ability to mitigate the chances of getting pregnant, but there's a huge gap between a 0% risk and a 20% risk of getting pregnant. Personally, I wouldn't play those odds if it meant potentially taking on the responsibility of another human's life. With regards to sex outside of marriage, I can't recall a time when sex outside of marriage was acceptable for women--excluding those with too much power to be held accountable, such as monarchs or nobles.
Similarly, it's not fair to compare preindustrial labor to the modern workplace. The family economy was completely different prior to the industrial revolution, with most people devoting their labor and resources to maintaining a meager living and not dying, and those who had the wealth not to work didn't. You could argue that there is the exception of merchants, but even that required contracts--something women weren't allowed to make in most of Europe.
The point of the comment that women won't give these things up isn't to say that all women must not give those things up. What's being preserved is the choice to participate in sex or work, to have social and economic mobility, and to have some say in the matter through political representation (in a democracy, anyway).
@@humanmerelybeing1966*I think you've missed my point here, but I will address what you've said first*
*"but there's a huge gap between a 0%......."*
I understand your point, however, firstly, the chance is not 0 %. The contraceptive pill is 1 % and condoms is 2 % for example. And 20 % is just the pull out method, other methods included things we use in contraceptive pills etc today. What the actual % was, I don't doubt it wasn't as effective, yet it could bring the percent down to as little as 5% I have no idea. All my point was, is that birth control has always been around.
*"I can't recall a time when sex outside of marriage was acceptable for women......."*
It certainly has been, in periods of Roman history for example it was accepted and even celebrated.(There were many cultures where sex outside of marriage for women was the norm, or even celebrated.) One of their gods was a sex worker. And today I would say the majority of people find it acceptable, would you not ?
*"Similarly, it's not fair to compare preindustrial labor....."*
I do agree with everything you said here, yet all my point was, is that women have always been in the workplace, was it due to not starving etc in the past, yes, most of the time at least, yet that doesn't change the fact that women have always been active in the workplace, so I was just stating, in response to the original comment, that we can't go back to a time when that wasn't the case, because it's always been the case, that women have been in the workplace.
*"The point of the comment that women won't give these things up isn't to say that all women ......"*
I mean not having a choice would infer some sort of punishment such as prison or a fine or some sort of community order etc etc, and very very few people if hardly any at all are proposing such a thing.
My point was that the culture could change, and women and men could choose to not have sex outside of marriage, resulting in it being the norm, meaning there could be a world, where sex outside of marriage is much rarer. And culturally women could also choose to work less often, part time, or not at all.
However you didn't answer any of the questions I raised, regarding this, that could potentially cause this cultural change, so I don't know what your opinion on the matter is i'm afraid.
@@thepubquiz3198 Your questions are more like hypotheticals, and so I suppose the answer is "I guess that could happen." But the past has no bearing on those examples because humans aren't the only variable when it comes to culture, nor are they a constant. The conditions in which Roman culture existed and perpetuated itself are completely incomparable to the conditions today. And this is true of much of the past. For example, Medieval Europeans used to perform self-flagellation to protect against the plague, surrounding by singing and chanting members of the community, who would then run forward and dip strips of cloth in the blood, which they believed would keep them safe from disease.
Does this mean there may be a cultural shift normalizes self-flagellation to combat microbial threats? That seems impossible in the current conditions in which modern culture exists, with modern medicine and a public education system that probably teaches students to have some general understanding of how diseases work. History proves that people are absolutely capable of rationalizing and even normalizing such extreme behavior, but they did so in a historical and material context that no longer exists.
So too do our modern conditions shape the concepts and categories we use to think about the past. Without questioning those categories, we reify them in a way that universalizes what should be historicized. You can't say women have always been in the workplace, as the entire idea of work being a place outside of the home is itself a product of industrialization. Historicizing what it means for a woman to work requires considering what we mean by work in the first place, since your average Ancient Roman wasn't exactly going to the office and getting paid a wage.
This historicization similarly applies to the category "woman," which similarly isn't a constant. If you deploy it in the way you've deployed it, you essentialize that category and the experience of those who belonged and belong to it. If you dissolve these categories and view them more as expressions of material conditions and political culture, your hypotheticals may start to have some answers. People alone don't shape culture. Destiny's point was that it's difficult to take liberties away from those who want them without turning to force, and I suppose you could take a longterm view and say that maybe people will just stop wanting those liberties, but it's more likely that we'll all die in a nuclear fallout well before that occurs.
@@humanmerelybeing1966 Thanks for the reply, and you do make some very good points. Yet in regards to your self-flagellation example, hardly anyone today, if anyone still believes that, ha, so it's unlikely to become the norm, and as you said there is no basis for it, yet there are plenty of men, and women, today, who do think sex outside of marriage is wrong, and there is an argument for it, so I don't see why that view can't realistically rise to a higher percentage, and from the polls i've seen it's around 30 %. And a lot of women also want to be stay at home moms but can't due to the current economy etc. From all the polls i've seen on whether women would rather be a stay at home mom than work, it seems to be around a 50/50 split currently. And around 27 % of mothers with children under 18 in the USA are currently not working. And many of the ones working will only be working part time. So it's quite likley that the majority of women today, even, only want to work part time, before any cultural change has even happened.
*Workplace*
I get your point, a lot of the work would have been working from home, yet women have worked in entertainment and things such as bathhouses, brothels, inns etc. for thousands of years. Was the number of different jobs they did compared to men in the workplace smaller, yes, but nonetheless they have always been in the workplace haven't they ? And it's important to note, that most men also worked from home, they would either work on their farm, or the farm owned by the lord etc, or have a stall or shop etc below their home, and the mans wife, daughters and sons would often work in that shop or stall too. I think today, if you go to work at a pub or a bar, and get paid a wage, that pub or bar would be your workplace, wouldn't it ? So why is a woman working in a tavern or bathhouse etc in the past, not considered her place of work ? Do you not consider retail to be a workplace ? As women and men would work in stores or stalls that was not a part of their home for thousands of years.
*Taking away liberties*
Again it's not about force, and we're not talking about a cultural shift towards something like cannibalism which although possible is incredibly unlikely, we're talking about views and practices, that are still held by if not half the population a large minority. And if the majority of people choose to not have sex outside of marriage, or the majority of women choose to only work part time, or not at all, that's not taking away their liberties, that's them making a choice with those liberties, they still have the option to work and have sex outside of marriage, it's just that people's values have changed.
*To the point*
Let's take one point, sex outside of marriage. Again clearly the me too movement has highlighted problems with sex outside of marriage, and we are finding it very difficult to solve these issues. And because many men are afraid of getting falsely accused, or there being a misunderstanding, and many women feel they aren't being believed due to the nature of the crime, do you not think it's plausible that firstly, more men could start to think, you know what, i'm just going to wait until marriage rather than risking getting a woman pregnant who I don't even care for, let alone want to spend the rest of my life raising a child with, and wait until marriage rather than getting falsely accused by a woman I don't really know, and or trust ?
And don't you think it's plausible that more women will think, because of the nature of the crime during a casual relationship or hookup, men seem to be able to just get away with the crime, maybe I will just wait until marriage, when I meet a person that I can really trust and feel comfortable around, certainly comfortable enough to say a firm no to, when I don't want to have sex with them ?
And do you not think it's plausible that both men and women will start to think, you know what, it's really not good for a child to grow up in a single parent home, so I will just wait until marriage, when I truly believe I want to spend the rest of my life with this person. Again condoms are only 98 % effective, and in reality, if you are have a regular sex life, most people are going to find themselves in a position where they have sex without a condom at some point. Also in reality, condoms are often not used properly, so the number is lower than 98 %. And If you are having regular sex without condoms, I believe on average, pregnancy will occur in six months and this number drops for younger women. For younger women, who this is more applicable to, it's 2 months, and with condoms, that would be 8 years on average. So if you have sex with protection from say 18, chances are you are going to get pregnant by the age of 26 on average. And a man will likely get someone pregnant by 26. Yet there's still a 5 % chance that you will get pregnant, or get someone pregnant, within a year with condoms. Couldn't culture change, where more people don't want to take these risks >
*Abortion*
And you could respond with, well women could just get abortions, yet again, if this is your response, do you not think this view could also change ? Considering so many people now, are already against it, If not we can discuss that two, if again, this is indeed your response.
Destiny is obviously the most intelligent woman they’ve ever had on their show
Most intelligent human (especially on these podcasts)
Do you luh blue hair pepol?
An he has millions of dollars and women what do u have?
Imagine making is fun of someone's screen name just because you don't like him and you don't agree with what he has to say.
@@N01773H Amazin’
I'll never be able to hold a straight face looking at 4 grown men buying into Tate's bs lmfao
listen tate is not a good person but he is saying stuff that should be said already he do inspire youngers to be men even if not the kind of men you would want them to be so many people stuck doing weed and playing games and they dont even growing to be mens idc if he makes them materialistic people atleast they will grow to be mans
Ofc he has some good ideas when it comes to what a man should be. That does not mean although that he is implementing this idea in a positive way that will make men better. That’s exactly why destiny was saying there needs to be a different role model for men that doesn’t give people false information when it comes to becoming a “real man”. Tate goes about everything in a very fraudulent and unethical way. He has some very good ideas but should not be taken into consideration when it comes to success. It’s not realistic. He is not the epitome of a true man. He is rich and successful and he uses his hustlers university pyramid scheme to make himself more money. It all goes back to him. He looks for people that are insecure and that lack confidence and takes advantage of these things. If you truly want to be successful yes you have to work for it but not in the ways he boasts about.
@@drewmoser3965 and i believe most of what he said is true for this generation in terms of how to make money and be successfull do not get married do not have kids focus on yourself 100% and learn new skill every couple of months
Use the hustlers university to learn amd invest in what you intrested and than use that money you earned for buisnesses or real estate 5 years of giving 100% there is no reason you wouldnt be wealthy
Some of the things Andrew tate says is 100% true though.
Only losers hate tate
At 17:51 I love how a woman tries to say something for the very first time and she's immediately cut off to let a guy that's already spoken say something more lol. These guys are borderline disrespectful😅
yup, Brian was a terrible moderator here and just let Chase and MLD garble on for 20 minutes at a time
@@watch-Dominion-2018 lol... Garble is the perfect word 😂
Forget the borderline. This podcast treats women as ornaments. If I were a woman on there, and being treated like that, I would leave.
@@CDMButterfly Based.
Men more important. Shush woman. W
Funny how usually it's 10 bimbos against one or two redpill guys. Today they had to bring the whole gang to go against Destiny
Up next: Destiny vs 100 bimbos
destiny: the blue haired final girlboss
@@cyberjunkienet ahahahahah xD
Funny because this bit they pretty much agreed that Tate ain't a good role model. All of them.
@Mickey Mouse I did watch it, and I liked the tone and the talk quite a lot. But clearly he is on one side and everyone else is on "the other", even if they are finding a lot of common ground.
This podcast needs more people staring awkwardly.
More german military helmets as well. It will really make things reich.
Best comment
That pale chick really creeps me out.. great value Aubrey plaza
@@franklingoodwin yeah that’s why I called her the Walmart version of Aubrey.
Aubrey hot asf
@@franklingoodwin nah she's hot
I just realized what the redpill is trying to do, when destiny talked about how far women come and what they achieved, the redpill doesnt want to elevate men to that level but just wants to bring down women to where they were 70-80 years ago and thats why the redpill is bad because how are we to achieve any kind of progress in anything If all their trying to do is go backwards
No, it’s just that women are too masculine today.
What an insane comment, telling men to make more money, get in good shape and be masculine is trying to regress women to the past? That makes zero sense
The last two Podcasts made me realise how *Unique* Destiny is at what he does, we shouldn’t take that for granted. He comes into these adversarial spaces and Commands *Respect* instantaneously. Even to the point that you can see that his interlocutors are very careful and Conciliatory in their demeanour and disagreements with him.
Destiny is unironically one of the most important people on the internet, and minds on the planet
@@harpsmith8570 *You are 100% correct.* It’s scary in a way, because he is the only one who is equipped and commands enough respect to reach into these, otherwise inaccessible spaces.
They have to be careful. Destiny will make them look stupid if they give a half-ass argument.
@@leehalloway8787 Exactly!!
It’s pretty incredible. That’s why his opponents walk on eggshells at times and are very respectful, because they know he can fire back without hesitation and breakdown their logical reasoning. It’s an amazing skill.
@@leehalloway8787 indeed
The way Destiny can articulate his thoughts is really impressive
I think it’s adhd and autism brain lol not in a bad way tho those ppl are super smart and destiny’s community has a lot of guys like him
@@Ihelpertricks wouldnt autism make you worse at communicating? hes probably a psycopath or something idk
@@roguis3451 I love it combatting retardation with retardation
I taught him how to do that
@@roguis3451 not necessarily…autism is a spectrum and some people with autism on the “high functioning” part of the spectrum can be exceptionally articulate. .. it’s not always like the “ Rain Man” stereotype.
Destiny is one of the few leftists who I can tell is genuinely good at debating people and has gotten better since 2016. He shows respect for the other person and doesn't act like a douche like Vaush or Hasan. Still needs to debate Ryan Dawson again lol
He's not a leftist, he's a small L liberal.
I am absolutely baffled at how delusional these Andrew Tate supporters are. He admitted to those things himself. Like what????
It's like weaponized incompetence.
if I admit to rpng your mum does it mean I did it?
Not a Tate fan but it might just be boasting. I can boast saying I did 9/11 but that doesn't mean I actually did it or that I'm guilty of it.
Now I may or may not have done 9/11
@@mikabakker1 FBI!!! *WE FOUND HIM!!!!*
@Mika 98 but he layed out exactly what a trafficking scheme would be. It'd be different if he said ya I got 30 girlfriends working for me. "Which he said aswell" plus who brags about stealing, manipulating, and lieing to camgirls?
That girl with the flower is a pick-me. First of all, supporting your partner no matter what they do is a juvenile choice. Obviously, love and support your partner and be there for them even during their failures, but following your partner blindly even during wreckless decisions that actively hurt the stability of their relationships and families is foolish. Secondly, expecting women to work full-time AND take care of all the domestic duties: most women are not going to do that.
She said she's autistic earlier on (something about riding the bus with the spaz). I thing that explains why she thinks in a very naive way
So what if it's "pick-me"?!
She's very cute and likable. I don't see the problem.
she just thought chase would pick her up after the show
This comment is the most basic" what to do/not do in relationship" that I'm starting to believe her saying she wasn't a pick me got under your skin?
Making all these arguments while surrounded by silent, bored looking girls in date night clothes is SUPER FUCKING AWKWARD
I wish there were more people like destiny who can freely talk about so many topics with such a variety of people
He just likes the sound of his own voice and, he also recognises and hates that he's so far removed from the "alpha" stereotype he'll do anything to discredit it.. Bitch driven.. The version of masculinity he's putting up is typically wokey and feeble.. Genuine men will have to sometimes elbow some poor person out of the way, he's the person that hates the idea of getting elbowed.
It’s pretty awesome, and he’s strangely perfect at it.
Such an inspirational woman
well guys on the right like Matt Walsh always talk about how they can’t get anyone on the left to have a discussion with. Most people on the left except destiny rather protest then speak with people they disagree with. They’re cowards.
Destiny really evened out a lot of things in this discussion and surprisingly was actually listened to
Not surprisingly really he wasn’t debating other leftists
@@JayThyself so the reason that they speak over the women is because they're ''leftist''? Do you know what delusional means?
Haha for sure
They will listen to any man regardless. It's the women they are dismissive towards.
@@psahota9306 fair enough
This was a great talk. We need more public good-faith conversations like this. It really goes to show that when you sit down and talk to someone with an open mind, you really do agree with each other more than you thought even if you're on different sides of the political spectrum.
The only person bad faith on that panel was Mary with the white hair
@@bears2life366id argue flower girl was also this way in the full podcast
That was a great talk.
I think one additional point about how to make men great again is: Pursue your life in a way that makes society around you better.
It is infinitely better and more rewarding to be a plumber or a teacher that makes 50K a year than someone who pimps women or dropship for 100K. When you strive to create good around you, your life becomes incredible. You all of a sudden have purpose, have a sense of community, have everything that men lack these days.
What an absolute shit take. "Limit yourself, make not even enough to afford a 2 bedroom one bath house in the bad part of town, plunge toilets and work 80 hours a week" piss off
Agreed and this is kinda what destiny is saying too, in previous conversations atleast. Your value is what you contribute to society, not how rich you are.
Exploiting women or dripshipping is a negative to society.
Its kinda annoying actually to me personaly. Im working towards a phd in philosophy and people from back home allways ask "how are you gonna get work, earn good money etc" and i dont care at all. I do it bc i think its my calling and where i can help humankind the most, but people are so focused on making money.
Inshallah, brother
exactly and i think a lot of people miss that it makes men way more interesting and attractive when they pursue something they love and focus on their own interests as well!
and theres such a huge disconnect from the red pill i dont understand they want traditional women, but they dont have traditional lives and jobs and the only bring on untraditional women.
like what is going on here im so confused what are the men following this content thinking what do they actually want?
100%
Just in case anyone was wondering, welders do not make $120k a year. A fraction of a fraction of welders can train to weld under water. Those guys make tons of money.
Source: I used to be a welder
How much you make?
Lineman also don’t make 200k after 5-7 years. Their numbers seem very silly they are taking like the 1 percent of that trade and saying it’s easy to make that in that trade. Unless you’re working overtime you’re still under like 90k after 5 years in. You can make a crazy amount of money in most fields if you get lucky they should be saying what the median pay is not what the top makes.
What if instead you go to school for engineering, have a much safer job, make maybe a little less or a little more money, pay off school debt, and then live a life with a more… idk… less hazardous daily routine?
Underwater welding? Fkin linemen? Hats off to them but I don’t blame anyone who get straight up scared from the tasks.
@@thatsreallyamoonmake less or more bud? For a safer job….you should probably make less, no?
@@Macheako there are engineers that absolutely make more than welders or linemen.
If you're not blindly devoted to your "I have to hate Destiny" tribe you realise very quickly how impressively intelligent and morally enlightened he is.
morally enlightened ?! you're kidding right ?
@@abdellahbouchendouka And why is he not morally enlightened?
he literally said tate is definitely a sex trafficker lmao these liberals
lol impressively intelligent and enlightened, jesus christ dude...
@@roskari8772 he supports pdf files. Not sure how morally enlightened that is
These guys were a lot more good faith than I expected, this was good content.
except for the idiotic 23 year old boy who mentioned having a civil war with women, to prevent them from having rights. This way we can go back to what is "traditional" like in the 50s. Keep in mind this 23 year old boy never lived in the 50s. So his view of "traditional" is based on BS.
I like the other guy who admits to being abstinent. It makes sense. If you want a virtuous woman, be virtuous yourself.
Yeah they should do this again
None of the responses they hot were particularly good faith. Dedtiny just churned out the same old talking points where they didn't even apply.
@@JKenny44 huh?
@@JKenny44 Where?
So uncomfortable how even these guys keep interrupting the women “to keep moving” but the men can do whatever they want …
I was looking for this comment. I agree. These men get extremely triggered when a woman tries to speak up and God forbid she disagrees with them. They give men the respect to speak their peace and can set aside their differences however not with the women. The men literally turn red, jaws clenched and spit venom when it comes to the women.. its so uncomfortable.
I have a sneaky suspicion that they deliberately get a lot of not too bright girls on this podcast to make themselves look good. Almost all (not all, but most) of the women I’ve seen on this podcast don’t have fully formed ideas and can’t articulate to save themselves.
I want to see them have Louise Perry, Julie Bindel, Kathleen Stock, Mary Harrington and the like on, and see if they can pull apart their ideas so easily.
It’s a bit pathetic - but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and posit that maybe they’re only just getting big enough now to actually attract those kids of guests.
Ofcourse we can do whatever we want! Now go be the town bicycle you always wanted to be, we don't care. Be independent, free and brave!
We don't give af!
@@psahota9306 All men are misogynists sweety. We HATE vvomen but LOVE to f them. We are disgusting indeed!
@@tolloromassi99 ok bro… did you just copy and paste this comment from somewhere else? It’s not even close to relevant to this thread.
100 percent true!! As a conservative woman, if I find out a guy has slept with 100s of woman, he isn't the man I want to marry. That is repulsive.
You're a conservative woman with that profile pic 😂😂😂
@@chadwarden8664 Tbh all the 'conservative' western women aren't conservative at all. They're just politically conservative but socially still liberal just not progressives like most liberal women tend to be.
I take care of my appearance, obviously. Im a professor at 26/yo in accounting, im a virgin and have a fiancé. I would say im pretty conservative. Surely compared to my peers I am. lol
@@scarletcrusade77 Im a professor at 26/yo in accounting, Im a virgin and have a fiancé. I would say im pretty conservative in my ways. Surely compared to my peers I am. lol
Politics wise I also tend to be right-wing because of the way that the banking system and Neo-liberalism works.
Pre selection is a thing. Women love men that can bag a bunch of other women. Women have an immense of amount of group bias compared to males. What's more is women don't care about purity when it comes to a male virginity, women do not care nor value it.
You know its hard not to roll my eyes at these types, when consistently they dig their heels in the ground over the "one-sided open relationship" horseshit
Definitely agree. A woman may tolerate a successful man that sleeps with other women, but she won't like it and it she will resent him and you're Definitely not respecting her.
The thing that I'd don't understand is, isn't destiny in an open relationship that's apparently very one sided, or does he just think his open relationship isn't one side.
Yeah the main 2 ways that can work out is if the girl gets off on it or/and the guy is bi and mainly has fun with guys. Another way is if the girl can have online toys or bfs.
@@mementomori4602 Aside the fact he doesnt recommend it.
Its not one sided. As far as I know they both have sex outside their marriage
@@OverlordDenooh no...just no
Take a shot every time someone concedes to Destiny's argument.
Oh my god...Destiny fans are such dick riders. I saw destiny taking Multiple "L" from Chase. Didn't Destiny tried to potray traditional marriage between young people as prostitution and got destroyed by Chase and Marry? Why you think Destiny didn't upload the full podcast?
I’m interested. Feel free to post your sources so everyone can else can learn from you
@@chandlers6778 Would you like us to link the very ideo you are commenting on? 🤡
i did and now im dead ty
That's generally how people handle civil discussions. Give a point when it's due if it's a fair point. The same works the other way around. That is if you want an actual discussion, and not just to "win".
i'll be honest i didn't expect these guys to be so respectful and willing to engage
im surprised too, Destiny unloaded a total masterclass there.
yeah Destiny was the epitomy of respectfulness
Easilly one of my favorite debates from Destiny.
agreed, i think that's because there were no egos in the room, so nice to see
@@alistairmurray626 Exactly, it's always nice to see a debate where two opposite opinions are able to find common ground and agree with each other.
I'm so tired of watching him walk into a room a the only actual debater and people being like "ohh, He owns them." He has over a decade of practice.
😂😂😂
She makes no sense 🤣💀
What's the ghost of Otto von Bismarck doing in the background there? And the Child of the Corn between those guys.
Someone needs to help these spirits pass on, oh lord. 🙏
Yes! Is she anemic?
Does it sound like a trafficker?
- Pretends to be lover to get a young girls to move to a country where laws are lax and they may not know the language.
- takes their passport
- monitors them on home cameras
- gets them indebted once they arrive
- has a loyal 'head model' to keep them in line.
- makes up "tax" they have to pay to collect more of the money they make scamming desperate men.
- denigrates and psychological manipulation.
Anything I miss?
Whenever the guy in the blue suit opens his mouth, I feel sleepy. He's ten steps behind the conversation.
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Your showing your jealousy. I see it clearly
Destiny shames Redpill guys for having sex with multiple woman but he himself is also running through chicks. Isn't that Hypocrisy?
Everyone else: having a discussion.
Suit boi: Buy my course, bro!
lmao facts
If that guy wasn't wasting space and oxygen, we coulda heard more from the only John in there with an IQ over 105...
⏱Timestamps for this video!
0:00 - Destiny and Madison discuss Andrew Tate's materialistic message
0:40 - Destiny explains why he dislikes Andrew Tate
6:26 - Selling out to gain popularity
9:28 - Men's issues in a feminist society
11:28 - Women's Success and Incorporating Masculinity
12:14 - Men's Issues and the Need for Support
14:57 - Masculine Empowerment Network and the Core Four Prescription
20:09 - Understanding Boundaries and the Core Four Prescription
22:28 - Asymmetry in Relationships
23:06 - Supporting Men and Women in Relationships
24:16 - Traditional Gender Roles
28:01 - Collapse and Crumbling Culture
30:17 - Women and Autonomy
31:25 - Diversity in Western Society
33:21 - Viewer questions on masculinity and femininity
33:53 - Advice on celibacy and sexual temptation
37:51 - Accountability and Feminism
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An extension did this????
Good shit champ
Andrew Tate takes advantage of young men who lack social skills, self-awareness and good parenting (the missing of a good father figure). They are easily influenced because of their emotional pain by not having women.
He is essentially a cult leader that created a whole new niche on the web where scammers can make big money.
He isn't ruining people lives or even really taking advantage, but he is wrong about a lot of things and materialistic but I'd love to know what damage he is actually causing to young men
@@metalmythology6282 preaching to find a traditional life style and woman while he lives the most untraditional way possible, talking about women like they are objects same as these dudes are.
look dude just because tate says a few common sense things here and there doesn't mean we close our eyes to all the other bull shit he talks about.
literally makes young boys think that women are only sexual demons not to be trusted or sm shit. while leading the most promiscuous life possible lmfao
@@metalmythology6282 he’s causing them to further drown their unconscious issues in materialism which will lessen their already low chances for resolving them
@@metalmythology6282 He is selling them snake oil and telling them not to focus on their real issues. His damage to those men is the same as the quak that tells people with cancer to eat veggies and buy his crystals instead of going to chemotherapy.
I do think people vastly exaggerate how many genuine supporters he has , a lot of people who follow him don’t love or hate him, he’s just a interesting entertaining figure that blew up and people are along for the ride. Most people actually find him corny 😂
Destiny did pretty well on the whatever podcast considering he knew what he was walking into with his stance on a lot of subjects. I may not agree with a lot of the things he spoke about but I respect his passion and his stoic stance. He's definitely a "high value man" that the red pill manosphere speak about, they're just "uncomfortable" with the fact he's "succeeded" by taking a different approach and belief system.
Dude the whatever podcast is a joke and super unprofessional
@@ChrisSmooth24 it's a podcast, it doesn't need to be very professional lol. It still seems way better than any other RP podcast, and this type of episodes seem pretty interesting.
@@justaguy6613 it’s literally a copy paste of every other rp podcast and yet it’s still bottom the barrel lol. I mean if you find a couple dudes bringing bimbos on just to make fun of them entertaining, then that’s kinda sad but to each their own.
@@ChrisSmooth24 I don't watch their stuff, nor do I find it that entertaining in clips. Just that this episode and one more was nice. Both had more than bimbos for guests. And I think it was the last few episodes where I found them. You're right it's sad if it's just two guys dunking on hoes with low iq the whole time tho. No crap it is.
@@ChrisSmooth24 you sound mad.
Dear destiny .
Thankyou so much for actually caring about creating common ground . And actually caring about young men . It's not hard to tell that you know your stuff .
Respect man. YOU'RE a G
And the guy you were talking to . The host. He also seemed genuine and to want to also create this common ground . I hope more people see how important these specific types on convo are . Finally there is hope that realistic foundations are being built.
"HOLD ON, he's been waiting to speak." Guy has spoken like 10 times before this. Why even have these girls on if you won't let them talk. These dudes just don't respect and hate women
They're decorations unfortunately. They don't seem to actually value these women's opinions
Seriously
i wish women would stop going on these
Oh my god...Destiny fans are such dick riders. I saw destiny taking Multiple "L" from Chase. Didn't Destiny tried to potray traditional marriage between young people as prostitution and got destroyed by Chase and Marry? Why you think Destiny didn't upload the full podcast?
If there were no women in the group, it would be just a bunch of dudes talking about women. But since there are women there, what they say about women gets validated to some degree. It's a prop (figuratively and structurally for their arguments).
Saw this live and man, I legit hated the people on this podcast more than anyone in ages. The religious viewpoints tainting every talking point. The virtue signaling. Folks literally saying towards the end of the podcast that women should "tough it out" if they're being abused in a relationship and how divorce is worse for children than being around abuse.
These people were f*ckin wild.
it’s also just statistically false. yes single parent homes are bad for outcomes, but abusive homes are infinitely worse
Oh my god...Destiny fans are such dick riders. I saw destiny taking Multiple "L" from Chase. Didn't Destiny tried to potray traditional marriage between young people as prostitution and got destroyed by Chase and Marry? Why you think Destiny didn't upload the full podcast?
Ah yes, because our history of religion driven societal norms have served us so well. What a joke. And now that things have changed, religion must be the answer. Guess what, that genie is not going back in the bottle. Participation in organized religion in the United States has steadily trended downward and it's not stopping. Maybe these people need to examine why religion itself has failed society before touting it as a solution.
This is exactly what didn't happen, it's what your warped interpretation of what you think happened
Why is no one mentioning the chick w the biker helmet making faces, and hand signs while they were talking, she looked so uninterested
the accountability Destiny is talking about when it comes to a woman getting pregnant and have to care for that child for 18 years is understated on all these men talk about "pro life" options. It's not an option for women. I'm so proud of him for standing up on this topic and I'm so glad for men like him.
What is crazy is he used abortions and birth control as a means to say that women don’t have accountability but then soon as this means they will you get live with a child for 18 years he did in turns around and uses abortions and birth control as a means to get out of doing so, but if y’all take that away because I want women to be accountable then there wouldn’t be those things to help the woman in the man who aren’t ready for the kids
i noticed it too
i’m anti abortion but i’m also a woman and his response of basically “choose better” got me thinking “fuck you then. abortion it is” 😅
completely out of left field for me, but i guess i’m a woman and for women before i am anti anything else
@@mr.peanutbutter5423 Kind of tribalistic but ok
@@williamschlass6371 it’s a conclusion i draw out of an impulsive thought but sure
I agree that the shifting abortion stance is hypocritical when it turns out you're only mad it wasn't your prescriptive decision.
@@mr.peanutbutter5423 it's harsh but he's not entirely false when he says that, every relationship is different though so we can't say definitively what is needed. Typically though if a woman were to get knocked up, or pregnant from her bf from a couple months of dating, odds are that guy is not gonna stick around, so in a way choosing better is a good way to prevent these things from happening whether it's choosing a better man, or making better choices to not let this become a possibility. No excuses made for the abandonments, just a different perspective
Imagine you're a father and you find out your son is going to the Tates for advice on how to be a man and improve their life. Yikes, talk about what it must be like to feel like a failure.
imagine being a failed father that your son needing to go out to seek advice from another man how to be a man? yikes
imagine going for advice to a grown ass man with blue hair and more feminine than his own wife, the wife that at the same time is the town bicycle that everyone gets to ride..
@@dtgb7 Better him than a hypocritical muslim who sex trafficks and operates casino's 😂
@@dtgb7 imagine realizing that you don’t know what a whataboutism is. Yikes
@@marvink2834 you just repeated OPs comment but phrased it differently
Thank you Destiny for providing reasonable political discussion and commentary from the left. As someone whose political disposition is left leaning, I’ve found myself leaning further right over recent years due to the inability of the left to have healthy discourse and the purity spiral that cascades from that. Thank you for showing people that it can be done.
Just know that the right isn't immune to that purity spiral. It's there, even if it hits different.
I used to think no Christian would struggle to recognize the anti-Christ then I see them all blowing Andrew Tate as a messiah.
Thats interesting because the bible says no one will recognize the antichrist, seems youre not really religious and just looking for a dig
Couldn't agree more. Its sad
Very sad ...
He had these "alpha" guys fangirling over him in 10 minutes.
glazing
It's amazing how much these "alpha males" are threatened by Destiny. Aren't alphas supposed to not even give AF about those type of men and focus on "the prize"?
Weak men like destiny are the most dangerous in the world, School shooters have more in common with destiny than any of the other men sitting at the table know this
Why do these podcasts always have a gaggle of women that basically don't do anything but agree with the charisma vacuums? Do they get paid to be there or something?
They're there to plug there IGs and/or OnlyFans. That or networking and attention.
I love how they didnt really let the woman speak! Showing their true colors of course. Destiny was respectful tho
I would just say to any guys out there that actually support Andrew Tate and think their is nothing wrong with his business, raise your hand if you would be thrilled the day your daughter comes home and says "hey dad, I just wanted to let you know that I've decided not to enroll in college this semester. I took the money you and mommy gave me for books and tuition and I went out and got my new property of the Tates tattoo. The rest of the money I spent on a plane ticket to Romania. I'm going to live at the Tate compound and start my new career as an only fans girl. But don't worry, Andrew says he's going to take care of me, he said that he will keep track of all the money and he's even going to deduct the taxes for me. I'm not sure when I'll be back , if ever, I mean I'm going to be a money generating assest now for the Tate organization so they aren't exactly gonna be thrilled about me taking time off. But maybe In a couple years I can earn the right to visit you guys. Anyway thanks for raising me and putting me in position to take advantage of this amazing totally above board and legit opportunity. I bet you can't wait to brag to all your friends at the country club. See ya daddy, sorry I mean Carl, Andrew is my daddy now".
such a specific hypothetical lol I think you're insane
Yeah definitely not. Same goes for my daughter saying she's doing onlyfans. I'll do my best so that she has some actual skillset other than her...assets. I'd even be fine with her being a model (though not by much) over that, and there's a lot of shady stuff in that industry too.
@@desoIateyes its hyperbolic but this is happening 💀
I like the Tate brothers. However, I condemn the webcam scheme they ran. It isn't very respectful for you to assume that we can't think for ourselves. It's like telling a grown man that stealing is wrong.
*Hits pipe
"I can't think of anything more cucked than..."
Isn’t the bigger question “Why do you like Andrew Tate” especially when you are in your late 30s and 40s (yes Fresh and Fit and fans) 18-25 year olds I get, but some of these people are old as.
Because he is the top g
@@craigrankine9867 if G stands for going down.
@@daizenmarcurio he’s also a con artist making money off fans by exploiting their naivety. Look in isolation in some of his videos he come across as a good laugh and cool guy, but he made his money through illegal gains, and now he’s exploiting the younger generations. All the useful advise he gives is centuries old and nothing new, what’s really changed is less active parenting.
@@dave24-73you obviously have no fucking idea what tate created the hustlers university for. You can choose which path to take with membership. Anything from just advice and direction as well as legit sources to follow in order to take your own path. Or you can choose one of dozens of legit paying jobs working and getting paid pretty freaking well.
You haye with ignorance. Thats just dispicable
@@daizenmarcurio that isn’t the only way he made his money, are you not following what the lawyers are saying. Hustlers University is a classic example of how he is manipulating young people. Let’s just watch and see how it all plays out, but if he ends up in prison, it won’t be long before he becomes old news. Lover boy technique is against the law, tax evasion is against the law, laundering is against the law these he has admitted to indirectly, rape ( if proven) is against the law. If you do a simple google search you will see that it is normal for people to be held for up to 3 months and there is a paper from the Germany with the stats, also some of the videos since his release will hurt his character if he goes to court, so he is helping the prosecution at the moment, that may be one reason they released him. Anyway let’s wait and see what happens. Even Capone was taken down on tax evasion alone.
Absolutely insane that at 15:56 one of the women guests finally chimes after them essentially being silent and is told to wait becuase the man has been wanting to speak... as if he hasn't spoken plenty the entire podcast.
Destiny completely nailed everything wrong with Tate. As Ben Shapiro stated about him, he seems to acknowledge the right problems he sees in society which gave him his audience… but his prescriptions are all dead wrong.
If Shapiro dyes his hair blue I’m calling in the meteor
Free top g
What prescriptions coming from Tate are wrong ? I’m no fan boy or nothing but I always thought people are so damn easily offended and judgemental that it’s ridicolus.
@@Yo-Ah-Kim they have cognitive dissonance because his humor is offensive they convince themselves they don’t he’s putting on a act as a youtube entertainer they hate they fake arrogance it makes their liberal blood boil
@Bronson the Nomad the only thing I get from Tate is that his core message is that he wants men to be men again. That I 10000% agree on. Especially when I see blue haired guys like Destiny.
Only 15 minutes in and must say one of the best podcasts on the internet about this subject till date, period. Finally a normal adult discussion without screaming and throwing names at eachother. Letting eachother speak. The discussions so far have been so extreme to either side that this nuaced debate/look on the subject is very much needed.
If a day comes that, god forbid, your daughter gets trafficked. Who do you think will come to fight tooth and nail for her? Those who “scream” and take the streets for her freedom? or Destiny? Who will “politely debate” for her freedom?
@@daylite34??? zero logic paragragh???
@@daylite34 trafficked by Andrew Tate?
@@asenseofunreality6880 if Andrew Tate was holding your daughter hostage in Romania, making her cam girl for her dinner, would you ask Destiny to go and “politely debate” guys on podcasts to let her free?
Might want to watch the whole thing like 4 or 5 hours either destiny's people only used 30 mins cause that is when he talked the most or it was the best part of the whole thing.
Destiny you are a voice for the voiceless. You ooze masculinity. We need more men like you 🙏🏾
There's not a single masculin man on this planet with blue hair.
@@johnsmith-ik8il pressed
Of course it would be a black woman in here praising his dumb ass, smh If destiny was black youd brand him as a nerd, That's why Donald Glover AKA childish gambino and Jordan peele 2 very pro black nerds but have white women
@@johnsmith-ik8il You’re upset about fashion? Weird topic to comment about. Guess you have your priorities 🤦🏻♀️
@@johnsmith-ik8il he did it for charity you donut
Open relationship has a 92% failure rate.
Destiny's wife: 😳
Bogus stats.
failure rate of all relationships is probably like 90%. Very view people only have one relationship in their life.
He doesn't recommend his relationship style to everyone and they've been together for over 4 years now...
@@TheSyntaxE true, but open relationships r built off of insecurities, whereas other relationships just tend to have them because the vast majority of ppl struggle with them
@@abdc2990 Which means nothing. Destinys relationship has a high chance to fail and thats just the facts.
As a young man the only person who inspired me was Christopher Hitchens
Why him? What did he inspire you about? To reject anything that isn't materialistic?
@@MrDrManPersonwhat did he DO tho?
Just give really good talks? 😂😂
I cannot believe that is even a discussion - Tate is one of the lowest forms of life, leeching on others, providing nothing of value to the society, only making it worse. You cannot become a "high value man" by abusing women and tricking men. The fact, that this scum gets any amount of acceptance is terrifying.
So telling young men that stop focusing in promiscuous women, work in yourself, focus on your carrier/skills to be a better provider is such wrong message to you? I honestly think many people hate the guy's personality without even listen what he really say
@@david2012slayerI think that Tate telling men that he manipulated new women to do sex work for him and skimmed 80% of their $ for "taxes" and how men should do what he did is a wrong message.
@@Stefan996 ok, in wich part of his philosophy he said that? and why is it when women VOLUNTARILY agreed to work in the s3x industry suddenly all are mentally vulnerable, naive, and need to be rescued? If a person go to a job interview and the future boss say you gonna work for me an make X amount in sales, but your only get 20% of that sale, and you accept that condition, then how are you the victim here? isnt that pretty much like any other sale's job?
See, personally I could not care more about the guy, if he is free or in jail, if he is a good or a bad guy, but what I can not stand its when people just follow ideas based in what they have been told to think, without rationnally questioning themselves if what they hear is true or not. Similar case, J.K Rowling, cancelled out of nothing, just because some hyper sensitive growns up felt offended. Absolute madness
The way destiny articulates himself is inspiring
Oh my god...Destiny fans are such dick riders. I saw destiny taking Multiple "L" from Chase. Didn't Destiny tried to potray traditional marriage between young people as prostitution and got destroyed by Chase and Marry?
Agreed
especially in the face of these pathetic losers
@@kilerman-kakuzu6902 What are you, 8 years old?
Interesting that August deemed nothing of value was in the segments where Erin was still around, kicking her was definitely a good choice.
The podcast was 5 hours long, I assume there was an agreement to take a segment
The channel is called Destiny, not Erin and Destiny 😂😂😂😂
Yea she was super annoying and obscurantist.
@@adamsoundcloud4248 probably; but she also sucked ass
@@JUNO-69 I feel like she was pretty responsive when asked questions which weren't about her sex life, she seemed pretty open to talking about concepts like feminism and patriarchy.
Bare in mind the question was originally "relationship status" which she answered.
I didn’t even notice John Doyle was there until he was directed by name to speak. Dude blends right in with the drywall.
Destiny is absolutely incredible with getting his points across, a true word smith.
Didn't Destiny tried to potray traditional marriage between young people as prostitution and got destroyed by Chase and Marry?
@@Sigmaasphere I have no idea man sorry
@@Sigmaasphere No. That girl with rose mentioned how sad it was that women didn't get an education and didn't explore things in life to do onlyFans content, which in her mind is a life altering decision (it isn't), and Destiny said that that is exactly what happens with conservatives telling women it's cool that they don't get an education and don't explore things in life to start pumping out kids at 19 with a relationship that is basically juvenile.
Chase just says "ah but my option is based", there is no good point in there. Both of these are bad to do when young and inexperienced and unsure of what you want in life, but at least you can delete your onlyfans and move on, in 99% of cases, women make like 20 bucks off of it and noone ever finds out.
@rizveerifatchowdhury801 no?
I can attest to what Destiny says my husband is a plumber and a very hard worker.. himself all of his friends or the most rugged men I've ever met. These are the men i grew up around, carpenters, plumbers, tradesmen of all varieties and we all have families and happy fulfilling lives.😊
It's clear the women are either bored, uncomfortable, or don't understand the conversation. Very fascinating.
Seeing Destiny and John Doyle at the same table is like my Batman and Superman crossover
Who is Batman and who is Superman?
More like Blue Beatle (Destiny) and Jimmy Olsen (Doyle) lmao
I really wish Doyle spoke more. Had some insanely interesting things to say.
@@dissectingdarkness3560 I was surprised he said so little too. Dude is charismatic, young, but willing to stay a virgin until marriage. Could be some interesting convo there. On the other hand, it's nice to see someone who listens more than they talk. Perhaps it's the topic, if this was more "politics" he probably would have say more
@@devilsadvocate6098 He just didn't seem to have space to jump in because of the other John next to him. The moron with the watch, suit and greasy hair who instantly agreed with Destiny on the foibles of gluttonous consumerism.
Lol geeze. I'm glad that John guy waited so long to talk he was rotting my brain. Dude basically said need to forcibly take women's rights back
he seemed to be alluding to having a civil war between men and women, to prevent women from going to school and working. Handmaid tale type shit. Really sick. The weird thing is, he's ONLY 23, with that mind set.
@@voguehaven5154 actually it seems to be the younger men having these mindsets more often. I think maybe things have gotten so vacuous and crappy/nihilistic for men that without life experience or wisdom they fall into these fucking bizarre extremist thoughts like that. I saw Melina kinda widen her eyes and then take a sip of water and not say anything and I thought "same girl, same". lol.
@@voguehaven5154 I believe he was not saying thats what he wanted, just a possible hypothetical if society reached a point, calm down a little. Theres nothing weird about that by the way, your dumbest idealistic ideas are when youre young
@@cryptocaesar8972 there’s many men who want women to have no rights and to be property again
@@cryptocaesar8972
well, I think it weird because he is fighting for things to be like they were in the 50s, a time he never lived in cause he's 23. In fact, no one on the panel lived in the 50s, but they speak of emulating that time period as if they lived and breathed it.
I guess they are just fighting for some ideal in their imagination and hoping it will somehow be a reality. Good Luck!
They need to bring on some women who can actually keep up in deep conversation and debate
This was way better then I feared after seeing the 3 guys behind the mic and 7 women sitting mostly on the background type of podcast.
I watched this on whatever channel, the flower girl and the albino girl are insufferable throughout
Flower girls hot
Yea the flower girl doesnt battle shit and is not very confident in what shes saying 💀 but shes cute ngl
@@rxdactedx I wish I was her chair tbh
The flower girl was insanely cringy
I think she's funny but idk about her takes
They definitely need more people on this podcast, they seem to spread out.
Thousands of women had to drop from work to look after the kids during pandemics. I understand that Destiny is trying to persuade them in their field but maaan that’s an unfair point of view.
i hate how these teasers are literally a minute into the video just dont add a teaser at that point 💀
You a chill dude destiny, keep up the good mindset!
I may not agree with Destiny on most things but I can respect him for actually going to talk to people that have different views than him. Thats all the respect i give him.
They always die on every hill don't they. They can't just say the Tate's have some problems.
How do they find these girls they all look either miserable or disinterested bro, these podcasts are so lame, glad to see Destiny come in and make it entertaining
Does anyone think that Modern Life Dating is actually someone who does well with women? He's like a male pick me
😂 was thinking the same thing
He's so corny
Listen. Pick me's get picked, love it or hate it.
He doesn't. He was basically trying to flirt with the girls beside him the whole podcast and it seemed like he was coming off needy and getting shot down.
@@bennymountain1 pearly is still not picked yet , and the femsapiens got picked by a fifty something guy it’s not the young , beautiful, rich Prince Charming lmao
26:08 When have humans really EVER been "happy?" There has never been a time in human history where the world has been content or at peace. Being human is a struggle and always will be unless we miraculously reach a point where we can all accept each others difference and co-exist without fighting and forcing our own beliefs and lifestyles onto one another.
id how ANYONE can say Melina is mid GTFOH , shes drop dead gorgeous , not even tryng to simp lmao
Fr. she’s mesmerizing …
The fattest guy in the room is talking about not getting fat…amazing
That's usually how it goes.
I love asking Tate fans this.
If Hitchens was alive, do you think Tate would’ve been able to intellectually argue against Hitchens and what argument could Tate make that Hitchens wouldn’t be able to refute?
Like a single Tate fan can give me a good answer. They know damn well Hitchens would’ve been able to expose Tate on that scale.
Tate fans, in the overwhelming majority, will not have heard of Hitchens. I'd imagine most people who have listened to enough of Hitchens wouldn't find themselves under the spell of the Tate Brothers.
Wtf, who cares about hitchens? The guys dead bro….
Hella ded ☠️
@@Macheako Average Tate fan...
brainwashed by tate, some y’all defend him w your life💀
@@drewmoser3965 Im a casual Tate fan simply because hes funny, as the clip in this video of Destiny showed where he was railing left wing people for being uptight losers while Tate brothers look like a good hang. I also liked Hitchens when he was alive, but I think time has shown alot of that era of intellectuals wrong in some ways, they used to spend alot of time majorly attacking religion and now the common consensus is that people are inherently religious, in lack of traditional religion they create some new "religion" without even knowing what theyre doing, as they lack purpose, which is helping lead to the divisiveness in our society, and could be our ultimate downfall.
You shouldn't brag about sleeping with multiple women like Andrew Tate. No, you should be like Destiny who's WIFE sleeps with multiple men, and be proud of that of course 🤡
Surely we can find a middle ground between toxic and cucked, right guys?
i know destiny is well debated when our manosphere entrances while new. its inspiring. cool runnings
I'd like to see a convo between just Destiny and Chase. He was the only one who engaged with Destiny in good faith this whole podcast.
No what you mean is…chase was the only one smart enough to take destiny on. The host of this podcast is a total moron.
"I'm the youngest here, I'm 23"
"Men should be men and women should be women"
Next person please.
Right in my FEEEED
Destiny hates Tate, because all women hate Tate.
Questioning Tates morals yet silent when onlyfans 304s brag about their 'careers' is insane
He clearly stated why he hates Tate or did you miss that part
i dont hate him, bit of a strong word imo but i dislike him
@Bec Oswald women who raise tates would have to love him
No he hates Tate because he secretly knows Tate is the matrix he claims to go against.
Destiny utterly destroyed these dudes, all they had was personal attacks against him.
I really would like the men in these podcasts to clarify what they mean when they say they would like women to return to being feminine. Women who are single and older with no children or with grown up children are not unhappy. If men are unhappy and want to return to masculinity fine I have no problem with that but don't try to do so at the expense of our gains. Getting an education, working and investing in ourselves when men are a big let down cos they are not responsible for themselves has been great for us. Why should we be shackled to loser men???? There are not enough good men to go around and we have dealt with it. Leave us alone.
Don’t tell me what to do 😂❤
Don't you believe that your feminist ideology is the reason Redpill going popular? Don't tell guys to not follow redpill while you are also subscribing to radical feminist ideology and surely we have tried your feminist ideology and everyone is unhappy ,mostly woman.
theyre allowed to have preferences and youre allowed to be single.
L take. "Women who are single and older with no children or with grown up children are not unhappy." You seemed to have missed the point about older single women with no children being far and away the #1 consumers of anti-depressants in the US. Not just "women" in general but specifically "older single women with no children". And when you say "there are not enough good men", what you really mean is "there are not enough men that fit my standards so the problem must be the men (i.e. the world) and not my standards".
As was stated, older single white women are the highest likelihood to be on SSRIs and its not even close.
Watching destiny dismantle them is so satisfying
"during ww2 a certain person was elected because of how different and more extreme he was"
I uh, I dont claim much history knowledge, but hes not talking about Adolf right? The guy who wasn't voted in?
He was voted in, but I don’t know if his ideas were really seen as that extreme. Society was racist af at the time and society did blame the Jews for WWI’s defeat. Had Germany not been forced to pay back 100% of the reparations of WWI, I think there’s a good chance the second war wouldn’t have happened
John Doyle seems to think you can just ignore or "get over" the current social issues to improve the world. He wants to call everyone else crazy, and put them in jail or worse. His ideal society is no utopia, and it doesn't include everybody.
You seem to be mistaken...
Straw man, ad homien
@@rustyrobux7049 Maybe.
The fact that Destiny garners respect, or at least a "based" take, while looking like a karen shows how well articulated and on point he is.
Soon you will realise that it’s all about confidence and not looks. Destiny slays and he is about 4ft1, bc he is totally comfortable with himself
@@xb2856he’s not4-1 bruh😂😂😂
Lmao that girl in the back wearing a helmet and making faces at the camera.
I know he’s an articulate young man but why is a 23 year old telling people about how relationships and the world needs to be. How much experience is this based off of lol
Who do you think is 23? I hope you aren’t saying Destiny.
I myself don’t know the ages of anyone on this podcast other than vaguely Destiny and Melina so if you’re talking about some else my bad
@@RamsayBolton13 no, purple t shirt guy haha
Take a shot everytime MLD says “fair play” and you’ll be drunk enough to start your own dating consultation
fair play
@@LudwigHorsecock exactly
@@ModernLifeDating how much are tickets to hot dude con
@@ModernLifeDating you forgot to tell us that you need some empty glass bottles on standby if you plan to endure 😘
Loooool is that John Doyle bench warming at the back? 😂
By far the most articulate discussion on this I’ve heard. Top form
only destiny was articulate. They rest were brain dead.