True Lies, Aliens, The Abyss, Titanic 4K Blu-ray Review (With Clips!) - James Cameron Movies On 4K!
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- Опубліковано 12 бер 2024
- I take a look at the latest releases from Disney and Paramount - the James Cameron Remasters collection including True Lies, Aliens, The Abyss, Titanic, and the two Avatar Collector's Editions.
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I dont care what you say. I have waited to long to see a good copy of The Abyss and True Lies. Im going to proudly and happily buy all of these Cameron masterpieces on Blu-ray 4K.
I don't really know what warrants the "I don't care what you say" here, as I was largely positive with this review - acknowledging that there'll be a polarising response from different kinds of viewers.
@@DaveLeeDownUnder That comment really was not meant to be insulting or offensive in any way. I was making a declarative statement. That's all
*too long
The A.I. seems to be smoothing out the entire picture and then adding sharpness with simulated textures. So you're no longer looking at what actually photographed, but a computer rendered interpretation of it.
I wouldn't mind these replicant versions existing as an option, as long as the truly lensed film negative originals were also featured in their most prestine representation too.
So many great fillms, especiallyTitanic. These blu-rays look really good. Glad you got a hold of them.
Titanic were always inferior to the 1958 version. 1997 version also aged badly.
@v3ntilator you couldn’t be more wrong on both counts.
@@DaveLeeDownUnder Titanic looked like a low budget CGI movie last 20 years.
@@V3ntilator low budget? It had a $200m budget in 1997, which adjusted for inflation is much more that that now. The only thing low budget is your comment.
Great review, you nailed the transfers. Especially the feeling that film grain causes.
Not seen true lies in years. Seeing those clips brought a smile to my face, will be getting the 4k when it releases in the UK and add to my Arnie collection :)
That's so amazing!
I only have the 4K edition of terminator 2: judgement day from Best Buy 5 years ago.
Best buy no longer selling movies, and they end up remodeled my nearest location and it looks smaller.
This year is the 40th anniversary of The Terminator so they have talked with Cameron about doing that and T2 on 4K this year. The old 4K of T2 was pretty bad and needs to be redone.
Going by these recent remasters, Cameron will see no reason to return to T2.
I disagree. Cameron might want to run T2 trough the newest version of the AI upscaler. While I personally cringe at the idea I also think the results could be better than what we have now.
@@DaveLeeDownUnderI believe you’re wrong here on T2. Here’s why:
- the scan used to produce the existing T2 4k disc is the one that was done for the 3D version of the movie. The 4k is a bi-product/afterthought.
- the very fact it’s strongly mooted in more than one source that he’s redoing T2 (alongside a new 4k for the original Terminator) suggests that he recognises the existing release is sub-par.
- the existing T2 disc has heavy DNR done using the traditional DNR techniques that we have seen with some of the Paramount releases. As well as removing grain it also removes detail such as facial detail, leaving the notorious waxy look. The AI technique Cameron is using now removes the film grain, but retains the facial detail etc which would have been scrubbed out with conventional DNR (as with T2).
- Avatar 1 & 2 received rereleases within the first year or the original 4k discs coming out, so it’s not setting a precedent for a Cameron disc to be rereleased.
- He will want consistency with the look of his whole catalogue on 4k physical media, hence the redo of T2.
I think I was left with the Spanish pirate copy of True Lies, although it has its things, it looks a little darker, but at least you can see the film grain and details at various times.
I would love to get the new Abyss 4K. Unfortunately it is completely unavailable already. No one round me is selling it. And Amazon doesn't have it in stock
Walmart is shipping them ! I just ordered Abyss on Friday - and it's now en route as I type this Monday.
I despise the packaging for the new avatar releases
This was an amazin review. Thanks for chatting about the waxiness and the overall restorations.
Thanks for watching!
The original pressings of Black Panther and The Last Jedi 4Ks had Dolby Vision. Later pressings removed that HDR codec.
You’re right!
I picked up true lies from the Disney movie club for 60% off and that is processing in my bank account right now so it should be shipping fairly soon as well as another 11 movies or so that I picked up after the announcement of the closure
I pre ordered them when they first were added to the Disney movie club. Honestly, I’ve been waiting for True Lies and The Abyss to be on 4K and Blu-Ray for a couple of years now. So I can’t really say no to that.
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Are these out in Australia?
Sadly, no. Disney no longer releases physical here, so you will have to import.
@DaveLeeDownUnder oh yeah I remember reading that, bloody disney!!
It would be good if they were available in Australia...annoys me no end.
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I will get them all but I will wait till they come out on 4k steelbooks. I have the two avatar movies on 4k steelbooks. Thanks
Honestly, would be very, very surprised if these get steelbooks. Disney is majorly scaling down on physical media - and in fact, these are amongst the last they’re releasing themselves before Sony gets distribution. If there’s no steelbooks now, it’s unlikely there will ever be. I would recommend grabbing them while you still can.
You are probably right. Thanks I will up them up. And sell them off later. If the even come out on steelbooks 👍🏻
Hey Dave Guess What😃😃😃
Wanting to clean your films up is fine. But there is no need to make them look "modern" whatever that means. All film is a product of it's time. That's part of their appeal and frankly a lot of older films look better than movies now. There's no need to pull a Lucas and constantly tamper with what was done. Again I'm glad The Abyss is finally out let's have some respect for the art of filmmaking.
To be fair, these films are Cameron’s babies and he has enough credibility to be given free rein to redo them in any way he sees fit.
Aliens for example, it’s documented that Cameron was never happy with the heavy grain with that movie, so he’s revisiting this (and the others) to present them in a way that he would have done had the same technology been around back then.
We talk about respect to film, but they’re his films, so whilst we all will have our opinions, shouldn’t we also respect him as the man behind these movies in the first place?
@@benpascall4297 I disagree, film preservation is a thing directors (even Lucas and Cameron!) need to respect. These films represent a certain time and the film stock limitations are a part of that. In my mind, the goal should be to best represent the source material and not add new stuff or eradicate any shortcomings the director sees after 30+ years.
All they'd have to do is enable people to access archival copies in the best quality possible. They could charge an arm and a leg for this. Then they can go and redo all their stuff and make it look like a wax cabinet, release this stuff as well and people would also pay for this.
But I guess with Cameron and Lucas it is also an ego thing, we will never get this. And, in the end, contractually, they have final say in those things.
Sorry for the rant. ;D
@@svabosvabo3257 I think what’s going on a lot is that people are mixing DNR that we know and hate with this AI technique that Cameron is using and then throwing in the word wax for effect. The two technologies work very differently and whilst digital noise reduction is the commonality, that’s where it ends. The AI technique implemented here reduces grain to present a shot digitally look, but retains the detail, hence not the waxiness we saw on the old T2 release.
I am a big fan of film grain and every time I see someone new to 4k complain about a grainy picture, I roll my eyes. Occasionally I’ll reply to these people to tell them that film grain is a natural part of film… you know the line.
That aside, I read the controversy about Titanic and picked up my own 4k copy. I was blown away by it.
Whilst I’ll withhold judgement on here releases until I have the disc in hand, I’m reading very positive reviews saying much the same about Aliens and The Abyss (not so much True Lies).
I’m really not sensitive to grain… I love a good 16mm print of Texas Chainsaw Massacre… to me it’s a thing of beauty. The Blu ray of Aliens I always thought looked great. But Cameron in in his head never did like the overly grainy look and had a vision of how he wanted each of his movies to look.
Take Aliens for example… He was really frustrated with the amount of grain the image had - which was FAR more than Scott’s Alien from 7 years earlier.
It was a new film stock that Kodak had put out at the time that was shortly after taken off the market.
I understand that some fans don't want to see the film altered at all, but at the same time every director is his or her own person and Cameron clearly can’t let go of wanting to fulfil his original artistic intent.
But then again we also live in a world where Gareth Evans just did a complete colour regrade and a 4k upscale on his film The Raid which wasnt shot in 4k and wasnt graded to those colours because he couldnt afford to do what he wanted 15 years ago.... and fans seem to love it.
Yes, you are probably right that these new AI techniques look quite different from bad DNR. I will not dispute that until I have actually seen one of these new discs in person.
But that wasn't my point. What I meant to say was that while Cameron has every right to alter his work, I do not respect it. Does not matter to me if it is AI or straight DNR.
So, yeah, I am one of those... 😂
But I can always stick with the BluRay and wait for fan restorations, while others can enjoy these new releases.
Thanks for that tidbit about The Raid, did not know that. Of course, I will avoid that release now too lol.
@@svabosvabo3257 you really shouldn’t avoid The Raid. It’s not had any sort of DNR applied, traditional or AI. It’s a budget movie that was shot with serious limitations in reflection of that, where the original director has been able to recolour the movie. It’s very natural looking, grainy and has an organic look.
Back to the Cameron AI restorations. As mentioned above, I DO have one of them in Titanic and judging it for what it is, it’s stunning. I suppose it’s a bit more easy to swallow for some with Titanic being more of an SFX movie, with the CGI etc. the AI process actually helps to pull it all together. It really is a stunning disc. I was very surprised and as a grain lover and a hater of the traditional waxy DNR, it really surprised me how good the movie looked. It’s very much an alternative take that Cameron is adopting, but I think it’s like watching these movies for the first time again in a way… I normally sell my old Blu ray copies on eBay when I upgrade to 4k, but I’ll be keeping onto my Aliens box set and will take comfort in the fact that I also have a decent 1080p grainy copy of Aliens, should the mood take me.
Dude I m here
Would be nice if we could find them lol
High demand has meant they sold out very quickly. That's why pre-orders are incredibly important!
Another reason to despise AI - also it took Cameron all this time to just let a computer remaster his films ? 🙄
The digital noise reduction in true lies looks the worst there are some questionable waxy arnold faces and titanic is the best presentation wise
You need to do better research. The abyss and true lies were never released on Blu-ray.
It's the only reason I'm considering to buy them both. My Sony 4K player does a very good job upscaling 1080p blu-rays.
I need to do better research? I literally say exactly that in the first minute of this video, what on earth are you on about?
Near the end of the video at the 15-minute mark. Go back and listen to what you say. 15 minutes and 20 seconds to be exact
Dave can you make a video about marvel and dc cartoon evolution videos
No, sorry. I won't be making any more superhero evolutions. Many of them are the worst performing ones I have ever made.
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Such a pity to hear about the Abyss looking fake, as 99% of that was shot practically and the crew went through hell to do it especially the two main leads.
what i hate about cameron now days digital craziness =,( but even the Great fall none rule 4ever
Hmm True Lies every one looks plastic like barbie and Ken dolls. I like the Titanic 4k remaster.
True Lies is horrible. Titanic is better, but you can see it was scrubbed