I feel so bad for Joshua! He didn’t gave him the attention he wanted, that’s all. I would sue Johnny, these are some serious, life ruining allegations with no evidence!! 🤷🏻♀️
I truly think Johnny was obsessively in love with Josh and envisioned a relationship that was not there. I think he thought that coming out to Josh, Josh would turn around and tell Johnny that he’s been in love with him this whole time. Johnny speaks like a woman scorned. And I wholeheartedly agree that Johnny leeched his way through these peoples lives and when it no longer served him, switched up. I also feel like, Johnny was working under cover with Colleen. To get close to Adam, Becky, Oliver, to get the inside scoop because based off of his 6 hour interview with swoop, he still gives off mean girl energy, Colleen energy and it makes me weary to think he’s still one of her minions. Now I don’t think this was the plan all along. I think Colleen messaged him when she seen how hell bent Johnny was on destroying Josh and it went from there. I hope Johnny just silently bows out, that Colleen doesn’t see this as her golden opportunity to return and that as a collective we remember that this current issue stems off of Colleen being an inappropriate groomer of children.
i was about to make a comment earlier similar to this, but yours is so poignant and well-written that i don't need to. i think what hit me the most was when johnny said he didn't want teen girls in his chat because he's comfortable in his sexuality and wants boyz II men. if your first thought when talking to (minor) fans is "but i'm gay", you're clearly not there to chat with fans, you're there to flirt. that's _sinister._
You got swooped, it's disgusting how manipulative you are and how you tried to frame someone because they didn't reciprocate the same feelings that you had for them.
Yes, Johnny... lets talk about boundaries. You did exactly what you accused Josh of, only this can be proven and it's not just accusations. Get Help, Dude. Of the Mental Therapy kind. For your own sake and those around you.
Just saw the SWOOP doc, and it is devastating for you Johnny. You are truly a monster. Just wait until SWOOP doc part 4. Its all over you now. Everyone brought receipts.
Got real stalker vibes with the whole “I need to talk to you.” “Where are you?” “I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ASAP.” And Josh rightfully ignored you’re obsessive personality and you got your feelings hurt.
These videos are really good to look back on for me. Educational. I am taking notes on every single aspect (facial expressions, word emphasis, pausing etc) of how to spot someone that is LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
the way josh gave u private and public accountability and apologies even when you accused him of life ruining allegations with no concrete evidence, while adam and the other victims got a gaslighting uke song that victim blamed and then silence.... and you had the nerve to try to say your situations were on the same level. please seek mental help
he went even further than putting himself on the same level, he told Adam that his story was more important than Adam's...have fun Johnny, you got that attention you wanted.
Wasn’t he also groomed by Colleen tho? Like not saying that makes what he did to Joshua any better… but I’m confused with the timelines.. is he not also a Colleen victim? Sorry if this is insensitive to ask…
@@jaygreene3070 I think he developed a friendship with Colleen when he was an adult (when he started working on the tour), so grooming doesn't really apply. He alleges toxic work environment but at this point he's not really a reliable source.
If someone ghosts you, you have to just move on. Sometimes it could be for a reason that has nothing to do with you. Especially if they don’t have a responsibility over you, like if a father or mother abandoning their child, I can see the child growing up with resentment. And even then there are situations in which the parent comes back and explains their absence and there may or may not be reconciliation. Josh came back (not even having any responsibility to you) and gave you an apology for something that was serious to you. I think he was very gracious to do that.
joshs apology was spot on and kind ,,he realised you had an unhealthy fantasy about him ,, you even call it a fantasy ,,, you were no child ,, you stalked him !
Johnny, you destroyed a man who didn’t give you attention. It’s called limerance when you make more of a person’s kindness to you as if you are in a relationship. You made it up, maybe you believed it, but this is stalker behavior. Stop it.
Josh is a VERY good guy, very kind-hearted. He did so much more than he had to, gave John's feelings 100 % validation (even if it included the pure hate towards him + baseless, dangerous accusations made by him), he apologized MULTIPLE times, found such nice and compassioned words to help John finally heal! Goosh, there's so much more Josh did, all coming from a pure heart, trying his best to correct the mistakes he did (again, he really didn't have to! i got ghosted a few times myself, nobody gave a shit about my feelings, nobody apologized - and i didn't fucking expect them to... it's such a clear message to JUST MOVE ON)... what i wanted to say is: I respect Josh for all of that. I know FOR SURE, that I MYSELF would have never been this strong, this empathetic, this kind-hearted after all the shit John put on him, blamed him for, denies every single fucking apology, blocked every single fucking attempt to let this shit show come to an end. Not a single nice thing would have come to my mind regarding this worthless, evil, entitled scum in human disguise. Not ONE. I'm 100 % sure, if Josh had ever done something horrible to himself - John would have felt even more validaded in his bs-behaviour. He's fucking heartless, ungrateful, selfrighteos and so so so much more... so hate-filled. He REALLY MAKES ME SICK. This whole story was an eye opener for me how sick and twisted someone could be in so many ways.. I cried several times during the Swoop doc. I couldn't handle the heart- and soulless reactions Josh got from him, while STILL trying and trying, again and again, to help this scumbag finally get some peace. ANYTHING Josh could have done - even if he would've made an apology video (John wanted him to do - I'M SO GLAD JOSH DIDN'T!!) - John would've NEVER been satisfied enough. He disgusts me. Simply put, VERY simply put.
I’d like to add, giving your phone number to someone underage that needs help isn’t grooming. Being there for someone younger is not grooming or any Ill intentions. Especially in this situation. You were the one that was trying to get Josh’s attention. He didn’t groom you at all. You shot your shot by telling him you were gay. He isn’t, he didn’t invest and groom you so he said it wasn’t his business. Take a step back and reevaluate yourself and get better. We support you finding truth and getting better.
@l.p.carteraicphd8691 the phone number was given in the presence of the teen's parents so i agree. but i do think it is not a smart move,or healthy for the teen. If Justin Timberlake gave me his phone number after an N'Sync concert in the 90s and then also gave me an account to run and pretend i'm a funny character he created ... i'd be obsessed. i'd have taken it soo personally.
@@Cairo198 Then I guess you would have get the message... ? It seems as soon as Josh has realised that fan was going too far he tried to set boundaries but this psycho can't handle not to have what he wants ...at almost 30 years old he still talks about being DUMPED ...about dates !!!!? I guess seeing Josh married and seemingly happy din't help....At this point I wouldn't say he needs help but JAIL time...
“I in no way want a relationship with someone 10 years younger than me”… hmm Swoop proved otherwise. I honestly don’t ever write these kinds of comments but what you did is truly heinous! Poor josh..he actually was suffering and you’re doing the MOST to try and get you 15 minutes. I hope you learn your lesson in all this.
Josh sounds mature and like a healthy adult who literally worked on himself who genuinely doesn’t want to hurt ppl. His words are super nice he takes full responsibility and provides context.
Watching this now is sooo cringe after seeing swoop uncover the truth. He is obviously so heartbroken that josh didn’t take him with him after the divorce.
Anyone else love Jonathan's choice of words when he's trying to discredit Josh's apologies? "I'm mad because the fact that (Josh) you thought you could SWOOP in and do some weird damage control... do better and stay out of my life." Oh man. Jonathan, you're the one who's been swooped -- at least as far as I understand new terminology. This is so over the top embarrassing. Mostly I just feel so heartbroken for Josh who has very publicly been accused of such heinous acts. All Jonathan has done is expose just how little value he himself has for other people's lives, boundaries, mental health, sobriety, etc. He put all this at risk for Josh, and no doubt any others who dared step out of his life or failed to meet his impossible demands. regardless this is just sad. And it's so beautiful the way Josh apologized with such genuine and compassionate words. it's so sad the ones who need to hear/read those exact words won't ever receive that gift. And Jonathan gets all that and just throws it all away in his performance? So infuriating. YOU do better, Johnny. Your life doesn't need to be so difficult, just let the truth be your reality from here on out. Good luck.
It seems like you are more upset by the fact he ghosted & let you down most of all. As far as the friendship thing i doubt hes going to face any legal trouble because even though weird a friendship isn't illegal. I wish you well man.
Johnny, the guy you have been so wounded by is giving you the apology everyone wishes they could get from someone they have grievance with… no matter the circumstances that brought about the apology. He is fully taking accountability for his actions, releasing you of wrongdoing and asking your forgiveness. That’s the most anyone could do in this situation. Josh is now free to move on, in peace. There’s nothing more he needs to do. For you not to accept his apology and move on speaks volumes. Accept his apology, stop talking about him, and move forward with your life.
LOL "stay out of my life"? he was not IN your life. you are not a victim just because someone does not want to be your friend. This man is not a public figure anymore. He could easily have moved on because no one else was coming for him. Just you. He didn't reach out to you for damage control. He is not a part of this. I hope you are able to get help, as others have mentioned.
yeah johnny...lets talk about the very serious legal aspect of this. you're not a "poor little 17 year old🥺" anymore. you're a grown ass man who will be tried as an ADULT. we would LOVE to hear your input on YOUR accusations. as you MUST know by now, if ANY of the people you defamed, used, lied to ON THE RECORD, decide to press charges youre actually done for. hope the 15 minutes of fame was worth it.
Joshua's letter seems as a real explanation of how he saw it. He didn't understand what he was causing to his fans by leading them on. it was not okay. It is typical for most YTbers, this is not the first time this happened to a fan. they don't realize what they cause by leading fans on.
You wanted Josh to create an apology video only for you have more content. You wanted so badly to dissect it. Pull it apart. There was nothing Josh could’ve said to you that would’ve pleased you. You wanted to keep digging and digging for more content at the extent of a human being. You were an obsessed fan. You had a crush on Colleen’s husband. You felt like you deserved fame and how dare they not give it to you. Swoop saw right threw you and I’m happy she did. Goodbye and good riddance.
I’m second hand embarrassed for Johnny - it’s so obviously JOHNNY IS IN LOVE/OBSESSED WITH JOSH, AND WANTED TO GET BACK AT HIM since Josh couldn’t care less about him. YOU. WERE. AN. ANNOYING. FAN. THAT IS ALL
The fact that you are falsely claiming Josh was a groomer when the truth has been PROVEN by Swoop that YOU have been grooming, bullying, involved in minors drinking, appropriating other victim's stories as your own is as sick as the behaviour of Colleen if not worse - you did all this for clout well guess what you are about to receive that clout - but not the way you imagined so good luck with that YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT!!!!!
So after Colleen and Josh separated Josh was going to come out and speak against Colleen, I have a feeling a lot of what is coming out now was what he was going to say. He suddenly stopped posting and got very quite and never told his truths about Colleen, I bet she threatened him with all these things he did as well, she probably told him to keep his mouth shut or she would expose him too. Everyone involved with Colleen is shady and Colleen is the leader. Sounds like it’s almost like a cult.
I always wondered what stopped Josh from the series of videos he said he was going to make. It wasn’t even just about Colleen, I think he wanted to expose all of his former “friends” who are on UA-cam. In the end it seemed better for him to just drop it because he was really struggling during that time and as Gabbie Hanna proved a few years later, a series of videos exposing your “enemies” and ex friends doesn’t do what you think it’s going to do.
Personally what I think what happened was you like josh so you got close to Colleen to be able to be in the same room as him and when you didn’t get the attention since they didn’t help you with your “success and happiness story” you got bitter and decided to leech off ACTUAL VICTIMS and tried to defame Josh by spreading LIES! And recycling what Colleen would do to Adam and made it that josh did the same YOURE SICK GO GET HELP
Oh Johnny, Johnny, Johnny!! You got swooped!! The truth has been set free you nasty, attention seeking, liar. It was Colleen and her side kick that treated you badly, poor Josh did nothing! He gave you his phone number under the pressure of your parents, which you kept quiet until swoop found out. That's it, nothing more to your story!!! With everything that poor man went through, you still expected so much and then built a hate campaign against him!!! Evil #JusticeforJosh
I never watched this before now. But it is crazy hearing him say “it’s hard to line everything up and create a timeline and stay on track.” Literally no fucking victim or survivor would say that. Why would they need to CREATE anything? And stay on track? Yes because your whole story is a web of lies and it’s hard to not get details tangled in that web and you don’t want to get caught in a lie. This is just hilarious coz of how ridiculous this is. Especially in light of the swoop video of him deleting messages and lying about the group chats, victim blaming etc, etc.
True. However people say drunk people/ people on drugs and mentally ill people aren’t excused from their behavior. I definitely feel for everyone involved but he’s deemed more at fault since he was a grown adult. But yes there are contributing factors to these peoples behaviors for sure
If you feel comfortable, could you share more about your experience with Colleen and Kory? How they reacted when you first joined vs how you felt about them and how they reacted once you left
It's always been obvious to a lot of people including me that you have been obsessed with Josh and you are his jealous stalker. He was right to pick up on your boundary issues and to get way from you. Please seek help.
He’s not going to, he’s waiting to see if Josh gets blow back from his interview with Swoop. He’s in love with Josh. All he kept saying was: Josh giving me his phone number was wrong but Colleen giving John her number wasn’t? Then he says: “If Josh thought I had a crush on him…” Johnny has been exposed and he loves the attention, good or bad.
Joshua already got his punisheament. And it wasn't and it isn't what i would wish on anyone. I remember when they divorced. He took it so bad. I really got scared for him cause he wasn' t handling it well. One day he was on the top of the world the next he had no wife, no youtube subscribers, everyone turned fheir backs on him. And then oh man and after a while his whole world shuttered even more when his parents divorced. I think i heard him saying on a video that that was even worst than the divorce. He started drinking and fortunetly i think his wife is trying to help him but he clearly is still dealing with it all... it must be so hard to feel that one day you have it all and the next you don't or worst, it was all a lie. This does not delete your woes, scars and heartache but i really think he did get all he some more. I hope you can heal. And i hope Josh can heal. It really is heartbreaking seeing his wife trying her best to lift him up from the life he hed expected to be having. One day he may learn that it was for the best.
At least Joshua handled it better than Colleen tbh. Like, I'm not excusing him or anything, but that apology did sound pretty heartfelt in parts, and it was far better than Colleen's fucking pity song. At least he's not denying what he did.
Holy shit it’s a horrible apology I have issues reading tone folks and Josh’s apology is blaming Johnny for being successfully groomed. He did exactly what Josh wanted and Josh still talks about this like there were romantic possibilities in the relationship he actively began with a CHILD.
Joshua is doing damage control. The wording he used was to limit accountability until the second message. It is hard to accept an apology from people who continue to show they act with only self interest.
Total fabrication: he's also using two Joshua's "victims" stories to backup his, well after they both told him repeatedly on Twitter to stop manipulating - one of the minors atm recieved a message from Joshua saying "you got a hot profile pic". Well: she had Joshua as her profile pic. Everything Johnny says here happened only in Johnny's imagination: and part 4 of Swoop will feature a 7-hour interview with Joshua David Evans himself addressing all of these lies. This is the gift that keeps on giving from hell.
Josh have him his number because he said he was suicidal. But it’s clear that Johnny was obsessed with him. He wasn’t invited to shows he just showed up. He asked Josh to collab in videos that were made where Johnny showed up to see Josh. Josh didn’t answer his constant DM’s. This was all embellished to garner attention, pathetic.
@@the_convexx worst part is, when Swoop releases her interview to Joshua, this leech is gonna make a reaction video right away. Worst part for him, I mean: that'd be the last nail in his coffin
Josh giving his phone number to johnny was inappropriate, but johnny makes it sound like it was calculated and evil but in my opinion, johnny and colleen are the mean ones who need to be platformed and who manipulated josh and the audience. josh's apology makes so much more sense now, i think josh took accountability for making johnny feel betrayed but johnny did not accept it and wanted to publicly drag the whole situation and get attention & views (unlike adam, who has said from the beginning that if colleen and kory apologise, he won't talk about them anymore)
Anyone else just astonished that this video is still up?! How he thinks he can even still try to push this narrative is legitimately insane. Literal delusion if he actually believes his own lies. But it's probably just that his ego is so big he can never admit to his lies or mistakes, classic narcissist.
I hate throwing around the term narcissist, but the fact that he's been exposed and still has this up makes me believe he might just be one. He's an attention wh0re and doesn't care who he affects.
You need to grow up and move on. This man has clearly apologized for his part in your history. Maturity comes when, after not only once,not twice, not thrice, but 4 TIMES an apology was made, you still cannot find it in your heart to forgive and move on! You present yourself as a narcissist, who can’t think beyond l, or me. As a recovering alcoholic of 34 years, sobriety depends on making amends for our wrongs. Joshua has made 4 attempts to do so with you. And you STILL tear this man down! MOVE ON, and try to make a positive difference in this crazy world; however, that’s a daunting task for someone who presents themselves as a narcissist. Wishing you peace in life as you navigate your ability to forgive and let go.
I’m sorry you had to go through this but I don’t really know what you expect from Josh at this point. What do you want to happen to him? What has he got to do damage control on? His online career is non existent. His apology sounds genuine in my opinion, it’s not like he hasn’t gone through his own trauma at this point. He even owns up to being toxic, what else can he do? Yes doesn’t exactly word things in the best manner but you also don’t come across in the best manner. He’s tried to apologise, it’s a lot more than you’ll get from the rest of them
This exactly! Obviously Johnny doesn't have to forgive anyone, I totally get that! But idk, I didn't really like that he was acting like it was such a bad apology...? I mean, I like that he said he appreciated Josh owning up to some stuff but it feels like Josh owned up to more than Johnny acknowledged, at least from a strangers perspective, like me, that's what I was seeing but idk. From my perspective, it was actually one of the best apologies I've EVER heard... and I MEAN EVER. (Which might just say a lot about how bad people are at apologizing, but still...) I get what Josh did was really rude and just bad completely but I don't like how he treats it like Josh was AS bad as the others (unless there's more that he didn't mention), because what Josh did just factually wasn't nearly as bad as the others. It honestly felt like I just watched some old UA-camr drama, whereas with Colleen, it felt like true crime.
Seems like he is too angry to forgive, honestly, and doesn’t want to consider that it may not have been as intentional as he thinks. With Colleen I understand the outrage but Josh disappeared after the divorce, and you could tell it was all very traumatic for him (anyone who’s been through it gets it). maybe he didn’t want to stay in touch with anyone who reminded him of that part of his life. You’re allowed to be angry but I hope you find some empathy as well in the end
Had to come and see why my comment aged well……good to know my logical thinking and intuition still works 🤣 Anyone waiting for the ‘I was still talking to Coleen and she made me say those things about Josh and now she’s got her way cos the bad attention is on me’ story!? I’m screen shotting this comment for prosperity incase he is actually that narcissistic that he does! 🫣
How about we talk about you not getting attention, and lashing out against someone who did nothing wrong, with accusations you can't prove?
I feel so bad for Joshua! He didn’t gave him the attention he wanted, that’s all. I would sue Johnny, these are some serious, life ruining allegations with no evidence!! 🤷🏻♀️
@@nicanonymus2491 I hope he actually does sue him.
@@nicanonymus2491I hope he does sue.
Literally. Josh felt uncomfortable with how attached Johnny was to him so cut ties. You were the predator here sir.
@@Pickle-PlantingEvidence facts it's giving obsessed. Then following him around the country with his family is beyond
I truly think Johnny was obsessively in love with Josh and envisioned a relationship that was not there. I think he thought that coming out to Josh, Josh would turn around and tell Johnny that he’s been in love with him this whole time. Johnny speaks like a woman scorned. And I wholeheartedly agree that Johnny leeched his way through these peoples lives and when it no longer served him, switched up. I also feel like, Johnny was working under cover with Colleen. To get close to Adam, Becky, Oliver, to get the inside scoop because based off of his 6 hour interview with swoop, he still gives off mean girl energy, Colleen energy and it makes me weary to think he’s still one of her minions. Now I don’t think this was the plan all along. I think Colleen messaged him when she seen how hell bent Johnny was on destroying Josh and it went from there. I hope Johnny just silently bows out, that Colleen doesn’t see this as her golden opportunity to return and that as a collective we remember that this current issue stems off of Colleen being an inappropriate groomer of children.
I’ve been thinking that this whole time! It’s glaringly obvious
"You promised me the world. You met my family! We were going to conquer the world together! I guess you never really loved me."
i was about to make a comment earlier similar to this, but yours is so poignant and well-written that i don't need to.
i think what hit me the most was when johnny said he didn't want teen girls in his chat because he's comfortable in his sexuality and wants boyz II men. if your first thought when talking to (minor) fans is "but i'm gay", you're clearly not there to chat with fans, you're there to flirt. that's _sinister._
he speaks and acts like a man scorned. same level of destruction
Imagine getting a genuine apology from someone and warping it to thousands of people online. Manipulative little beetle.
Beetle 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That is a great insult 😂
Lmao little beetle 😂
@@twilightdream you know how beetles be dodgy n shit lololol
His infatuation with saying Josh’s full name is weird. Keeping the crown for so long.. weird. Leaching off the backs of actual victims.. super weird
Agreed.
He was infatuated with Josh & is pissed it wasn’t reciprocated
hes delusional over josh its so weird
I think the guy had a crush on Josh😮
@taylorwinter1171 i'm keeping presents from celebrities i got as a teenager, and i am in my 30s
You got swooped, it's disgusting how manipulative you are and how you tried to frame someone because they didn't reciprocate the same feelings that you had for them.
I hope Josh sues you.
I hope Josh sues a lot of people for spreading these lies
Yes, Johnny... lets talk about boundaries. You did exactly what you accused Josh of, only this can be proven and it's not just accusations. Get Help, Dude. Of the Mental Therapy kind. For your own sake and those around you.
Just saw the SWOOP doc, and it is devastating for you Johnny. You are truly a monster. Just wait until SWOOP doc part 4. Its all over you now. Everyone brought receipts.
I still can’t believe your ‘coffee date’ was personally inviting yourself to Josh’s WORKPLACE. WHY.
It’s giving Jodi Arias before she fully snapped. SCARY.
Yeah and Josh literally drank coffee with him for 10mins then left. This dudes delusional.
@@annieapple8974 exactly
Got real stalker vibes with the whole
“I need to talk to you.”
“Where are you?”
“I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ASAP.”
And Josh rightfully ignored you’re obsessive personality and you got your feelings hurt.
This aged like already sour, gross buttermilk.
"hard to create a timeline" yeah when ur lying lmao
That’s what i said!
"create" he tells on himself constantly
These videos are really good to look back on for me. Educational. I am taking notes on every single aspect (facial expressions, word emphasis, pausing etc) of how to spot someone that is LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
the way josh gave u private and public accountability and apologies even when you accused him of life ruining allegations with no concrete evidence, while adam and the other victims got a gaslighting uke song that victim blamed and then silence.... and you had the nerve to try to say your situations were on the same level. please seek mental help
he went even further than putting himself on the same level, he told Adam that his story was more important than Adam's...have fun Johnny, you got that attention you wanted.
Wasn’t he also groomed by Colleen tho? Like not saying that makes what he did to Joshua any better… but I’m confused with the timelines.. is he not also a Colleen victim? Sorry if this is insensitive to ask…
@@jaygreene3070 I think he developed a friendship with Colleen when he was an adult (when he started working on the tour), so grooming doesn't really apply. He alleges toxic work environment but at this point he's not really a reliable source.
@@paulinezugzwang1773 thank you for clarifying ☺️
We all knew Joshua was a good guy regardless of this nonsense video. Not perfect, but a good guy.
I knowwwwww. That park video always seemed thirsty in my opinion.
If someone ghosts you, you have to just move on. Sometimes it could be for a reason that has nothing to do with you. Especially if they don’t have a responsibility over you, like if a father or mother abandoning their child, I can see the child growing up with resentment. And even then there are situations in which the parent comes back and explains their absence and there may or may not be reconciliation. Josh came back (not even having any responsibility to you) and gave you an apology for something that was serious to you. I think he was very gracious to do that.
joshs apology was spot on and kind ,,he realised you had an unhealthy fantasy about him ,, you even call it a fantasy ,,, you were no child ,, you stalked him !
Well looks like your 15 min is over.☹️
you just got swooped
Johnny, you destroyed a man who didn’t give you attention. It’s called limerance when you make more of a person’s kindness to you as if you are in a relationship. You made it up, maybe you believed it, but this is stalker behavior. Stop it.
Josh is a VERY good guy, very kind-hearted. He did so much more than he had to, gave John's feelings 100 % validation (even if it included the pure hate towards him + baseless, dangerous accusations made by him), he apologized MULTIPLE times, found such nice and compassioned words to help John finally heal! Goosh, there's so much more Josh did, all coming from a pure heart, trying his best to correct the mistakes he did (again, he really didn't have to! i got ghosted a few times myself, nobody gave a shit about my feelings, nobody apologized - and i didn't fucking expect them to... it's such a clear message to JUST MOVE ON)...
what i wanted to say is: I respect Josh for all of that. I know FOR SURE, that I MYSELF would have never been this strong, this empathetic, this kind-hearted after all the shit John put on him, blamed him for, denies every single fucking apology, blocked every single fucking attempt to let this shit show come to an end.
Not a single nice thing would have come to my mind regarding this worthless, evil, entitled scum in human disguise. Not ONE.
I'm 100 % sure, if Josh had ever done something horrible to himself - John would have felt even more validaded in his bs-behaviour. He's fucking heartless, ungrateful, selfrighteos and so so so much more... so hate-filled. He REALLY MAKES ME SICK. This whole story was an eye opener for me how sick and twisted someone could be in so many ways..
I cried several times during the Swoop doc. I couldn't handle the heart- and soulless reactions Josh got from him, while STILL trying and trying, again and again, to help this scumbag finally get some peace. ANYTHING Josh could have done - even if he would've made an apology video (John wanted him to do - I'M SO GLAD JOSH DIDN'T!!) - John would've NEVER been satisfied enough. He disgusts me. Simply put, VERY simply put.
Amen!
Agreed! Seeing the dms and messages from Josh practically begging this dude to leave him alone and let him get on with his life is heartbreaking.
This was all a lie? For what? I hope you’re apologizing to Joshua, like he did to you (for not giving you enough attention?)! Please get help! 🤦🏻♀️
I want a psychologist to react to this video so bad
Well. This is ironic.
I’d like to add, giving your phone number to someone underage that needs help isn’t grooming. Being there for someone younger is not grooming or any Ill intentions. Especially in this situation. You were the one that was trying to get Josh’s attention. He didn’t groom you at all. You shot your shot by telling him you were gay. He isn’t, he didn’t invest and groom you so he said it wasn’t his business. Take a step back and reevaluate yourself and get better. We support you finding truth and getting better.
@l.p.carteraicphd8691 the phone number was given in the presence of the teen's parents so i agree. but i do think it is not a smart move,or healthy for the teen. If Justin Timberlake gave me his phone number after an N'Sync concert in the 90s and then also gave me an account to run and pretend i'm a funny character he created ... i'd be obsessed. i'd have taken it soo personally.
@@Cairo198 Then I guess you would have get the message... ? It seems as soon as Josh has realised that fan was going too far he tried to set boundaries but this psycho can't handle not to have what he wants ...at almost 30 years old he still talks about being DUMPED ...about dates !!!!? I guess seeing Josh married and seemingly happy din't help....At this point I wouldn't say he needs help but JAIL time...
Johnny was in love with Joshua and now he’s acting like a bitter ex 😂
“I in no way want a relationship with someone 10 years younger than me”… hmm Swoop proved otherwise. I honestly don’t ever write these kinds of comments but what you did is truly heinous! Poor josh..he actually was suffering and you’re doing the MOST to try and get you 15 minutes. I hope you learn your lesson in all this.
You owe everyone a apology
Josh sounds mature and like a healthy adult who literally worked on himself who genuinely doesn’t want to hurt ppl. His words are super nice he takes full responsibility and provides context.
Watching this now is sooo cringe after seeing swoop uncover the truth. He is obviously so heartbroken that josh didn’t take him with him after the divorce.
Ah yes, the infamous phone number given in front of your parents who apparently were happy that this happened.
If it was so bad like he is saying … then what does that says about his parents to facilitate it ??🙊🙊🙊
The apology seemed heartfelt to me! And you used it for content.
You got swooped
The fact you lied about everything wtf
Oof! You owe Swoop 6 hours of her life back!
Anyone else love Jonathan's choice of words when he's trying to discredit Josh's apologies?
"I'm mad because the fact that (Josh) you thought you could SWOOP in and do some weird damage control... do better and stay out of my life."
Oh man. Jonathan, you're the one who's been swooped -- at least as far as I understand new terminology.
This is so over the top embarrassing. Mostly I just feel so heartbroken for Josh who has very publicly been accused of such heinous acts. All Jonathan has done is expose just how little value he himself has for other people's lives, boundaries, mental health, sobriety, etc. He put all this at risk for Josh, and no doubt any others who dared step out of his life or failed to meet his impossible demands.
regardless this is just sad. And it's so beautiful the way Josh apologized with such genuine and compassionate words. it's so sad the ones who need to hear/read those exact words won't ever receive that gift. And Jonathan gets all that and just throws it all away in his performance? So infuriating.
YOU do better, Johnny. Your life doesn't need to be so difficult, just let the truth be your reality from here on out. Good luck.
So if you’re saying 8 years to late and you’re 27 that would make you 19….not a child. 😂
The fact that he still has the crown 8 years later just proves how he is crushing on josh so bad 🤣
It seems like you are more upset by the fact he ghosted & let you down most of all. As far as the friendship thing i doubt hes going to face any legal trouble because even though weird a friendship isn't illegal. I wish you well man.
Not you hit the nail on the head BEFORE the swoop video. This is exactly what happened!
You should be a judge lol
this aged like wine 🍷
You ate
This guy called it before everything hit the fan. 👏
Johnny, the guy you have been so wounded by is giving you the apology everyone wishes they could get from someone they have grievance with… no matter the circumstances that brought about the apology. He is fully taking accountability for his actions, releasing you of wrongdoing and asking your forgiveness. That’s the most anyone could do in this situation. Josh is now free to move on, in peace. There’s nothing more he needs to do. For you not to accept his apology and move on speaks volumes. Accept his apology, stop talking about him, and move forward with your life.
Understand boundaries!? Like you also talking to children!? You’re just as bad as them if not even worse. Thank goodness for Swoop!
Apologize to Josh
He really needs to
YOU GOT SWOOPED!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏👏
This is wild. Justice for Josh
So we’re all here?
Watching this after everything is just WILD! The audacity!!!
Imagine if everyone who had been ghosted cried out like this 🥴
I guess this is what happens when a sociopathic stalker gets ghosted lol
@@Pixelpunch3exactly. The vibe he gives me is like a diluted Jodi Arias.
@@ChristopherMichael180 at least jodi got he man tho🤣🤣🤣
LOCK HIM UP !!! YOU need a long jail time to protect the children and the lives that people like you don't care to destroy....
He really wanted to be “paid” for taking an account with 2000 followers with no good amount of likes / tweets 😭😭😭😭
LOL "stay out of my life"? he was not IN your life. you are not a victim just because someone does not want to be your friend. This man is not a public figure anymore. He could easily have moved on because no one else was coming for him. Just you. He didn't reach out to you for damage control. He is not a part of this. I hope you are able to get help, as others have mentioned.
IM SO HAPPY YOUVE BEEN EXPOSED FOR THE PATHETIC, OBSESSED FAN THAT TRIED TO TAKE JOSH DOWN ALL BECAUSE HE DIDNT LIKE YOU 😂
yeah johnny...lets talk about the very serious legal aspect of this. you're not a "poor little 17 year old🥺" anymore. you're a grown ass man who will be tried as an ADULT. we would LOVE to hear your input on YOUR accusations. as you MUST know by now, if ANY of the people you defamed, used, lied to ON THE RECORD, decide to press charges youre actually done for. hope the 15 minutes of fame was worth it.
Joshua's letter seems as a real explanation of how he saw it. He didn't understand what he was causing to his fans by leading them on. it was not okay. It is typical for most YTbers, this is not the first time this happened to a fan. they don't realize what they cause by leading fans on.
Imagine ghosting someone is “ leading them on” 🤣🤣🤣
Swoooooooped.
You wanted Josh to create an apology video only for you have more content. You wanted so badly to dissect it. Pull it apart. There was nothing Josh could’ve said to you that would’ve pleased you. You wanted to keep digging and digging for more content at the extent of a human being. You were an obsessed fan. You had a crush on Colleen’s husband. You felt like you deserved fame and how dare they not give it to you. Swoop saw right threw you and I’m happy she did. Goodbye and good riddance.
Why is this video still online?
I’m second hand embarrassed for Johnny - it’s so obviously JOHNNY IS IN LOVE/OBSESSED WITH JOSH, AND WANTED TO GET BACK AT HIM since Josh couldn’t care less about him. YOU. WERE. AN. ANNOYING. FAN. THAT IS ALL
If I were you, I'd delete this video right away, before Joshua's attorney can get a copy of it.
why would you try and warn him, his ass deserves to be sued atp
I hope Josh is able to sue him into oblivion 🎉
@@keepmeinurorbit because it would be absolutely hilarious for him to take this down only to find out we all saved a copy 😭😭
Swoop has a copy if josh needs it lol
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OH! I was just scrolling, I need to do this! 😊
The fact that you are falsely claiming Josh was a groomer when the truth has been PROVEN by Swoop that YOU have been grooming, bullying, involved in minors drinking, appropriating other victim's stories as your own is as sick as the behaviour of Colleen if not worse - you did all this for clout well guess what you are about to receive that clout - but not the way you imagined so good luck with that YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT!!!!!
Johnny cried wolf. He is a literal wolf in sheep's clothing who 'fucked' around and got found out.
He wasn’t innocent but I will say, he seems more remorseful about his actions. I am glad you did put your story out
So after Colleen and Josh separated Josh was going to come out and speak against Colleen, I have a feeling a lot of what is coming out now was what he was going to say. He suddenly stopped posting and got very quite and never told his truths about Colleen, I bet she threatened him with all these things he did as well, she probably told him to keep his mouth shut or she would expose him too. Everyone involved with Colleen is shady and Colleen is the leader. Sounds like it’s almost like a cult.
I always wondered what stopped Josh from the series of videos he said he was going to make. It wasn’t even just about Colleen, I think he wanted to expose all of his former “friends” who are on UA-cam. In the end it seemed better for him to just drop it because he was really struggling during that time and as Gabbie Hanna proved a few years later, a series of videos exposing your “enemies” and ex friends doesn’t do what you think it’s going to do.
I think his message was kind and genuine he meant well
Personally what I think what happened was you like josh so you got close to Colleen to be able to be in the same room as him and when you didn’t get the attention since they didn’t help you with your “success and happiness story” you got bitter and decided to leech off ACTUAL VICTIMS and tried to defame Josh by spreading LIES! And recycling what Colleen would do to Adam and made it that josh did the same YOURE SICK GO GET HELP
Oh Johnny, Johnny, Johnny!! You got swooped!! The truth has been set free you nasty, attention seeking, liar. It was Colleen and her side kick that treated you badly, poor Josh did nothing! He gave you his phone number under the pressure of your parents, which you kept quiet until swoop found out. That's it, nothing more to your story!!! With everything that poor man went through, you still expected so much and then built a hate campaign against him!!! Evil #JusticeforJosh
This dude is legit scary
He is so obsessed with Josh! It's really creepy.
I never watched this before now. But it is crazy hearing him say “it’s hard to line everything up and create a timeline and stay on track.” Literally no fucking victim or survivor would say that. Why would they need to CREATE anything? And stay on track? Yes because your whole story is a web of lies and it’s hard to not get details tangled in that web and you don’t want to get caught in a lie.
This is just hilarious coz of how ridiculous this is. Especially in light of the swoop video of him deleting messages and lying about the group chats, victim blaming etc, etc.
This aged terribly
Let’s talk about lying for attentionnnnn 💅
All this and you didn't even crack 100k views 😂
Things that didn’t age well:
Johnny… let’s talk about SWOOP
TBH I think that Josh was going through a drinking problem and had his own issues at the time.
True. However people say drunk people/ people on drugs and mentally ill people aren’t excused from their behavior. I definitely feel for everyone involved but he’s deemed more at fault since he was a grown adult. But yes there are contributing factors to these peoples behaviors for sure
That’s no excuse
And what exactly was it again he did? Ignored a creepy stalker?
Rewatching this knowing what we know now…. Wow. You need therapy. Get help. Apologize and move on.
Stalker, you and your family do not know boundaries. Shame on you for being so entitled.
You just got exposed my dude
If you feel comfortable, could you share more about your experience with Colleen and Kory? How they reacted when you first joined vs how you felt about them and how they reacted once you left
Agreed
It's always been obvious to a lot of people including me that you have been obsessed with Josh and you are his jealous stalker. He was right to pick up on your boundary issues and to get way from you. Please seek help.
When are you going to delete this?
He’s not going to, he’s waiting to see if Josh gets blow back from his interview with Swoop. He’s in love with Josh. All he kept saying was: Josh giving me his phone number was wrong but Colleen giving John her number wasn’t? Then he says: “If Josh thought I had a crush on him…” Johnny has been exposed and he loves the attention, good or bad.
May peace rule your heart!! Thank you for sharing. I am so, so sorry.
Joshua already got his punisheament. And it wasn't and it isn't what i would wish on anyone. I remember when they divorced. He took it so bad. I really got scared for him cause he wasn' t handling it well. One day he was on the top of the world the next he had no wife, no youtube subscribers, everyone turned fheir backs on him. And then oh man and after a while his whole world shuttered even more when his parents divorced. I think i heard him saying on a video that that was even worst than the divorce. He started drinking and fortunetly i think his wife is trying to help him but he clearly is still dealing with it all... it must be so hard to feel that one day you have it all and the next you don't or worst, it was all a lie.
This does not delete your woes, scars and heartache but i really think he did get all he some more.
I hope you can heal.
And i hope Josh can heal. It really is heartbreaking seeing his wife trying her best to lift him up from the life he hed expected to be having. One day he may learn that it was for the best.
👏👏👏👏👏👏
Agreed
Just stop. No one cares. Leave Josh alone.
At least Joshua handled it better than Colleen tbh. Like, I'm not excusing him or anything, but that apology did sound pretty heartfelt in parts, and it was far better than Colleen's fucking pity song. At least he's not denying what he did.
Tell us how much did Colleen pay you to try destroy Josh life with your BS
I don't think she did. Dudes got mental issues all on his own.
What a miserable evil being. He’s so sick and twisted and should get mental help before harming more people.
Liar. Smimey liar.
I think two things can be true: your feelings are 100% valid, and his apology does seem genuine.
Holy shit it’s a horrible apology
I have issues reading tone folks and Josh’s apology is blaming Johnny for being successfully groomed. He did exactly what Josh wanted and Josh still talks about this like there were romantic possibilities in the relationship he actively began with a CHILD.
If it was genuine he would of apologized when it happened. Not when hes worried about it effecting his carreer years later.
@@lc4life369he's not interested in a career on UA-cam anymore.
@@Lucifersfursonaromantic is a weird word choice
this aged poorly
Following this rabbit hole for the first time. Kinda shocked at how few views this one has given how hard he tried to be relevant 😂😂
You clearly had a big, creepy crush on josh. You’re so strange
This aged well.... lets talk about Johnny lol
Grow up dude ,, go live in the real world !!!
Joshua is doing damage control. The wording he used was to limit accountability until the second message. It is hard to accept an apology from people who continue to show they act with only self interest.
So... am I correct in understanding that this is total fabrication? I need the SWOOP girlies to let me know.
Total fabrication: he's also using two Joshua's "victims" stories to backup his, well after they both told him repeatedly on Twitter to stop manipulating - one of the minors atm recieved a message from Joshua saying "you got a hot profile pic". Well: she had Joshua as her profile pic. Everything Johnny says here happened only in Johnny's imagination: and part 4 of Swoop will feature a 7-hour interview with Joshua David Evans himself addressing all of these lies. This is the gift that keeps on giving from hell.
Josh have him his number because he said he was suicidal. But it’s clear that Johnny was obsessed with him. He wasn’t invited to shows he just showed up. He asked Josh to collab in videos that were made where Johnny showed up to see Josh. Josh didn’t answer his constant DM’s. This was all embellished to garner attention, pathetic.
@@the_convexx worst part is, when Swoop releases her interview to Joshua, this leech is gonna make a reaction video right away. Worst part for him, I mean: that'd be the last nail in his coffin
Josh giving his phone number to johnny was inappropriate, but johnny makes it sound like it was calculated and evil but in my opinion, johnny and colleen are the mean ones who need to be platformed and who manipulated josh and the audience. josh's apology makes so much more sense now, i think josh took accountability for making johnny feel betrayed but johnny did not accept it and wanted to publicly drag the whole situation and get attention & views (unlike adam, who has said from the beginning that if colleen and kory apologise, he won't talk about them anymore)
@@zonbs_ i think he may have pussied out
I need proof. This story seems sus
You're right! Please look up his name (I've seen it but everyone else needs to see it too!)
Well, seems it was sus indeed. I am not surprised but I'm glad the truth is out. Bless Swoop.
@infinitecurlie omg!! Wow. Looked him up and holy wanna be clout chasing ....🤯
@@hagelslag9312 she did amazing
I hope you realize everything that's happening to you, is what you did to somebody else. This is your own doing.
I'm happy Josh admitted to being wrong at least. He's the first person to apologize. I hope you heal and move on from this.
He ain't moving on from manipulating everyone. ☠️
@@infinitecurlie😂
I'm sure Josh would have thought better of offering his phone # and friendship had he known what a piece of luggage Johnny is.
Anyone else just astonished that this video is still up?! How he thinks he can even still try to push this narrative is legitimately insane. Literal delusion if he actually believes his own lies. But it's probably just that his ego is so big he can never admit to his lies or mistakes, classic narcissist.
I hate throwing around the term narcissist, but the fact that he's been exposed and still has this up makes me believe he might just be one. He's an attention wh0re and doesn't care who he affects.
@@yessica5231sociopath
You need to grow up and move on. This man has clearly apologized for his part in your history. Maturity comes when, after not only once,not twice, not thrice, but 4 TIMES an apology was made, you still cannot find it in your heart to forgive and move on! You present yourself as a narcissist, who can’t think beyond l, or me. As a recovering alcoholic of 34 years, sobriety depends on making amends for our wrongs. Joshua has made 4 attempts to do so with you. And you STILL tear this man down! MOVE ON, and try to make a positive difference in this crazy world; however, that’s a daunting task for someone who presents themselves as a narcissist. Wishing you peace in life as you navigate your ability to forgive and let go.
I’m sorry you had to go through this but I don’t really know what you expect from Josh at this point. What do you want to happen to him?
What has he got to do damage control on? His online career is non existent. His apology sounds genuine in my opinion, it’s not like he hasn’t gone through his own trauma at this point. He even owns up to being toxic, what else can he do? Yes doesn’t exactly word things in the best manner but you also don’t come across in the best manner.
He’s tried to apologise, it’s a lot more than you’ll get from the rest of them
This exactly! Obviously Johnny doesn't have to forgive anyone, I totally get that! But idk, I didn't really like that he was acting like it was such a bad apology...? I mean, I like that he said he appreciated Josh owning up to some stuff but it feels like Josh owned up to more than Johnny acknowledged, at least from a strangers perspective, like me, that's what I was seeing but idk. From my perspective, it was actually one of the best apologies I've EVER heard... and I MEAN EVER. (Which might just say a lot about how bad people are at apologizing, but still...)
I get what Josh did was really rude and just bad completely but I don't like how he treats it like Josh was AS bad as the others (unless there's more that he didn't mention), because what Josh did just factually wasn't nearly as bad as the others. It honestly felt like I just watched some old UA-camr drama, whereas with Colleen, it felt like true crime.
Seems like he is too angry to forgive, honestly, and doesn’t want to consider that it may not have been as intentional as he thinks. With Colleen I understand the outrage but Josh disappeared after the divorce, and you could tell it was all very traumatic for him (anyone who’s been through it gets it). maybe he didn’t want to stay in touch with anyone who reminded him of that part of his life. You’re allowed to be angry but I hope you find some empathy as well in the end
It's nice to know people like you can see through bullshit, and don't fall for this. Your comment aged well buddy😂
Me causally looking at the comments that aged well
Had to come and see why my comment aged well……good to know my logical thinking and intuition still works 🤣
Anyone waiting for the ‘I was still talking to Coleen and she made me say those things about Josh and now she’s got her way cos the bad attention is on me’ story!?
I’m screen shotting this comment for prosperity incase he is actually that narcissistic that he does! 🫣