@@ItsLazyHunter not exactly sure what i did wrong, maybe waiting around inside the rooms following the video? it's timid and shiny anyway so it's got to be correct :) i appriciate you for this guide keep up the good work (y)
funny enough i was going for a cyndaquil and got a shiny chikorita, i messed up though, i missed the door at the end and bumped the left wall of the door and i guess that also get chik lol
Okay.. One more question. Can you explain why you did you min and max delay? Im going for Female Lead (50% Male Target) egg groups 3, but none of the seeds pop up for any of the numbers in that group.. unless I change it to infinite search. Wonder if I could use any of the seeds in the infinite search, or if I have to do the 5032. Thanks for responding btw.
I’m not an rng professional or anything but I believe it’s so that way it’s actually possible to hit the right times/not have to wait an absurd amount of time as I think the shorter the delay the less time you have to do it and the longer the delay the more you have to wait. Anybody feel free to correct me if I’m wrong as I’m somewhat new to rng but that’s what I think is going on
So I did the glitch but my chikorita didn’t come out shiny and it’s nature was hasty instead of jolly which is what I wanted do I still have the cute charm glitch active? ALSO I used a different system instead of poke finder
Thank you for this guide! I finally got the hang of getting the correct TID, but I failed the mon part twice before getting shiny Cyndaquil on my 3rd try!
@ItsLazyHunter can you make a guide how to rng manipulate cyndaquil with the proper date I want to rng manipulate shiny cyndaquil but I want it on the right date pretty please
So instead of a I did 3c for a Timid and female lead. I got one of the two trainer IDs it had to pick from but I can't find the shiny starter.. Also when I did accept one of the starters, its nature wasn't even Timid.
It doesn't work like that. The exact steps I went for are for a shiny frame advance 99, which only happens, in this case, for the SEED I went for with that SID/TID combo. Most certainly, the SEED you went for doesn't have a shiny frame in advance 99.
Great video!! Been trying to get totodile watched Blissys video too. Have gotten the id correct a few times.Like The path is go in and out 5 times. And then go in and out; just stop before the window and come back in. My question is when coming back to talk professor Elm do i have to bumb into anything or just go up to the machine and check the starter? Cuz in Blissys it looks like he bumps into stuff but i cant tell if i need to do that cuz it hasn't worked lol
I actually messed up Cyndaquils step sequence and bumped an additional time before entering the lab again BUT I STILL got my shiny Cyndaquil?! Thank you :D
When i get to the step to enter the obtained TID into the seed finder to check what second/delay i got, nothing shows up. It just stays blank. What am i doing wrong? I've tried multiple times, even gotten the same TID multiple times, made sure all the settings are correct, but seed finder keeps coming up blank. Also do i have to make a male trainer or can this be done as a male or female trainer?
Nevermind, I'm an idiot. Time in the seed finder was set to AM not PM. Still no luck on getting the correct ID but at least seed finder is giving me results now. Will make some more attempts later.
How do you get the shiny if you want to use a different year instead of 2000? I've tried it and it seems like the movements for the shinies don't work.
What matters is the SEED you're in and TID/SID combo. If you're replicating these from the video you should get your shiny from the exact steps I performed
@@ItsLazyHunter Yeah I understand that. However, I am on a different seed because I wanted to set the year to 2024 instead of 2000. How do you map those movements based on the seed?
@@Elf_Hater that will just give you the Cute Charm glitch not the shiny starter. The steps are based on the frame advances on that particular seed that I chose. As your picking a different seed, it will still be PID A with Cute Charm glitch but the shiny starter won't be on frame advance 99 which is where mine was for my seed
I want PID a1 for a different group than you chose and when i search with year 2000 no seeds come up. If i change year to 2010 and use one if those seeds with the same delay can i take the same steps for a shiny starter or no?
So I'm confused. I wanted Totodile but got Cyndaquil instead. Why? The only possibility I see is that the shiny was always the desired nature; I did the Totodile method wrong but got lucky and rolled a Cyndaquil at full odds? Sadly, I didn't record it/have no option to record it on my DS, but if this seed really ensures the nature and I did something wrong with the method, I suspect I was very lucky. And yes, the Cute Charm glitch works. So I got the right TID/SID combo.
Oh, I see. Other people are reporting the same. They got different results while aiming for their target. Weird. If I get my HeartGold secondhand copy, I will aim again for Totodile. I'm not mad about Cyndaquil because it seems to be the hardest path to nail.
The steps are for a specific shiny frame on advance 99. So anything else would be different and the method would not be the same. I suggest you check out my Diamond/Pearl tutorial which covers this
The way RNG Manipulation works in Gen 4 is by changing the time in the system where you're playing the game. If you're able to do that on Emulator you should be able to do this.
Great video but I do have a question. I've been trying to get the trainer ID for a while and cant seem to get it I have gotten delays that match the 5032 but still don't get the ID. Do you have any tips for this and also how many times attempts should I be going through before I do a full restart?
Never mind I got it. My problem was that I forgot to change the target second when i wasn't hitting the right number. Your the goat thanks for the great video.
Great video but I have a question! Is the ID/SID part required for the shiny starters, or can I just follow the steps to get the starter? Just wanna make sure I have all I need before trying it.
Hi, in this case the TID/SID is needed for the shiny starter yes. This happens because we want to hit a particular seed and the only way to know that we've hit it is by knowing that you hit that TID/SID
You got to choose a different timer and seed then, though you won't hit the shiny starter, only cute charm glitch. You'd have to static RNG the starter in a different seed
Can you save the trainer ID before you do the steps? I got the same ID as you did however I saved in case inside my house. Or do I have to re do it in one seamless play without saving
With this method you have to do all in one. It's related to the seed you're in and in this video as soon as you get your TID there are 99 frame advances within your seed to get the shiny starter. If you save you reset the seed.
@@ItsLazyHunter okay thank you so much. I tried doing the method in Gen 3 video but it was taking me forever. So I moved on and tried on this. It worked, thank god, and then the only thing is I saved so that messed it up. But I have everything memorized now. If I have the ID, and get my shiny, when should I actually save my TID/SID for the game?
With this method no. This one is fixed for a particular nature and stats, we aimed for a frame advance of 99. To get another nature it requires you to figure out how many frame advances it takes from the moment you start the game in front of the starter and then choose one. I did this in my Pearl/Diamond tutorial and it's similar to what you want to do.
@@ItsLazyHunter appreciate the promo response. I have 2 3ds systems. What other gen 4 game can I trade between? Want to shiny hunt all the starters but then want to send them back to my HG
Thank you for the tutorial! I have three questions: 1. Does this method work the same way on a 3DS? 2. If I only want the Cute Charm glitch and not the Shiny Starter, do I still have to follow one of the step sequences? 3. You said that I would have to transfer a Cute Charm Pokémon to the game. Does this glitch also work with a Cute Charm Pokémon caught on the profile where the glitch is active?
1. Yes, you just have to change your console on EonTimer's preferences. 2. No. As soon as you get the SID and TID you're set with the Cute Charm Glitch! You don't need to do any steps at all. 3. Yes. I only said that because it's easier and faster if you have the chance to transfer. If you have any further questions let me know :)
@@ItsLazyHunterThanks a ton for the fast response! Are you going to upload the BW2 3DS RNG manipulation setup tutorial soon? I never get a result for the first needle search.
In order to hit the correct TID/SID I'd say no more than 15/20 attempts. As for the shiny starter it has to be on the first attempt otherwise you have to hit TID again
@@ItsLazyHunter Perfect! Thank you! I happened to get it just a few attempts after commenting. Thanks! Looking forward to trying again during my Platinum playthrough. Liked and Subscribed!
Hi! Let’s say I didn’t want a timid nature starter because if I were to go for a Totodile, lowering attack wouldn’t be good. How would I be able to get a specific nature?
Get ANY Wild SHINY in HeartGold/SoulSilver: ua-cam.com/video/Z_rN1pLv3JQ/v-deo.html
thank you a ton for this! i was having difficulty following along on the 3ds, but i had this down in about 30 minutes with this video!! ^_^
You're very welcome!
Such underrated youtuber. You should defintatly make some more videos about USUM/Platinum. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do!
I set everything up but I always get a different id. I never get the one I'm looking for. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
followed the steps for chikorita and ended up with cyndaquil - big win as i went for chikorita cause cynd looked difficult haha :D thanks man
That's awesome! :D
@@ItsLazyHunter not exactly sure what i did wrong, maybe waiting around inside the rooms following the video? it's timid and shiny anyway so it's got to be correct :) i appriciate you for this guide keep up the good work (y)
funny enough i was going for a cyndaquil and got a shiny chikorita, i messed up though, i missed the door at the end and bumped the left wall of the door and i guess that also get chik lol
So when i click search in rng info after putting in correct info pokefinder closes can anyone help?
Tbh this seems to be happening alot with the latest PokeFinder version... Try downloading 4.2.0 and see if it works
Okay.. One more question. Can you explain why you did you min and max delay? Im going for Female Lead (50% Male Target) egg groups 3, but none of the seeds pop up for any of the numbers in that group.. unless I change it to infinite search. Wonder if I could use any of the seeds in the infinite search, or if I have to do the 5032. Thanks for responding btw.
I’m not an rng professional or anything but I believe it’s so that way it’s actually possible to hit the right times/not have to wait an absurd amount of time as I think the shorter the delay the less time you have to do it and the longer the delay the more you have to wait. Anybody feel free to correct me if I’m wrong as I’m somewhat new to rng but that’s what I think is going on
Thank you for the video, after a few trys it actually worked and I am cute-charming my way through the game now :)
Glad I could help!
Youre an absolute legend and i cant recommend your videos enough
This helped so much, thank you! Only took me 6 tries
Glad it helped!
So I did the glitch but my chikorita didn’t come out shiny and it’s nature was hasty instead of jolly which is what I wanted do I still have the cute charm glitch active? ALSO I used a different system instead of poke finder
The cute charm glitch is tied only to the TID/SID, so as long as those are right, yes.
@@2222Kai2222 i have since fixed my problem but thank you for the assistance
Thank you for this guide! I finally got the hang of getting the correct TID, but I failed the mon part twice before getting shiny Cyndaquil on my 3rd try!
Glad I could help!
@ItsLazyHunter can you make a guide how to rng manipulate cyndaquil with the proper date I want to rng manipulate shiny cyndaquil but I want it on the right date pretty please
So instead of a I did 3c for a Timid and female lead. I got one of the two trainer IDs it had to pick from but I can't find the shiny starter.. Also when I did accept one of the starters, its nature wasn't even Timid.
It doesn't work like that. The exact steps I went for are for a shiny frame advance 99, which only happens, in this case, for the SEED I went for with that SID/TID combo. Most certainly, the SEED you went for doesn't have a shiny frame in advance 99.
@@ItsLazyHunter okay I see.. will cute charm still work how it’s said to? I went with timid 3c or c3. Not sure why the starter wouldn’t be timid?
If I do not want the timid nature and I want a adamant nature, what do I input for the PID?
Do you want the Adamant shiny group? Or just the shiny starter?
@@ItsLazyHunter Just the shiny starter being adamant
@@BananaBoyZooKeepers hit me up on discord and we can set it up 👍
Great video!! Been trying to get totodile watched Blissys video too. Have gotten the id correct a few times.Like The path is go in and out 5 times. And then go in and out; just stop before the window and come back in. My question is when coming back to talk professor Elm do i have to bumb into anything or just go up to the machine and check the starter? Cuz in Blissys it looks like he bumps into stuff but i cant tell if i need to do that cuz it hasn't worked lol
I think he smashed B or A for the dialogs
I actually messed up Cyndaquils step sequence and bumped an additional time before entering the lab again BUT I STILL got my shiny Cyndaquil?!
Thank you :D
When i get to the step to enter the obtained TID into the seed finder to check what second/delay i got, nothing shows up. It just stays blank. What am i doing wrong? I've tried multiple times, even gotten the same TID multiple times, made sure all the settings are correct, but seed finder keeps coming up blank. Also do i have to make a male trainer or can this be done as a male or female trainer?
Nevermind, I'm an idiot. Time in the seed finder was set to AM not PM. Still no luck on getting the correct ID but at least seed finder is giving me results now. Will make some more attempts later.
@@BroadBorn1 how do you do that? I'm having the same issue
In pokefidner I keep getting 0% search results how do I fix?
Can you show me on discord?
@ yes I put it in the hgss channel a while ago but I’ll send you a dm with a video of what happens thanks for the help
hi im trying to get the female lead for 50% ratio and want a totodile which doesn't have such a bad nature like timid. how can I do that? Thanks!
How do you get the shiny if you want to use a different year instead of 2000? I've tried it and it seems like the movements for the shinies don't work.
What matters is the SEED you're in and TID/SID combo. If you're replicating these from the video you should get your shiny from the exact steps I performed
@@ItsLazyHunter Yeah I understand that. However, I am on a different seed because I wanted to set the year to 2024 instead of 2000. How do you map those movements based on the seed?
@@Elf_Hater that will just give you the Cute Charm glitch not the shiny starter. The steps are based on the frame advances on that particular seed that I chose. As your picking a different seed, it will still be PID A with Cute Charm glitch but the shiny starter won't be on frame advance 99 which is where mine was for my seed
@@Elf_Hater answering directly to your question, you have to use PokeFinder's gen 4 static window and check the frame advances on that particular seed
@@ItsLazyHunter Thanks so much for the information, I'll look into that!
I want PID a1 for a different group than you chose and when i search with year 2000 no seeds come up. If i change year to 2010 and use one if those seeds with the same delay can i take the same steps for a shiny starter or no?
So I'm confused. I wanted Totodile but got Cyndaquil instead. Why? The only possibility I see is that the shiny was always the desired nature; I did the Totodile method wrong but got lucky and rolled a Cyndaquil at full odds? Sadly, I didn't record it/have no option to record it on my DS, but if this seed really ensures the nature and I did something wrong with the method, I suspect I was very lucky. And yes, the Cute Charm glitch works. So I got the right TID/SID combo.
Oh, I see. Other people are reporting the same. They got different results while aiming for their target. Weird. If I get my HeartGold secondhand copy, I will aim again for Totodile. I'm not mad about Cyndaquil because it seems to be the hardest path to nail.
in theory could i just use the same clock from eon timer and same settings and get the id 39771?
when i input data on eon timer it gives me some ridiculous time like, 19 seconds and it's not enough to even boot the game. what am i doing wrong?
Put the min delay up to 5000
How would the sequence change if I wanted to target a different Nature or Shiny Group?
The steps are for a specific shiny frame on advance 99. So anything else would be different and the method would not be the same. I suggest you check out my Diamond/Pearl tutorial which covers this
Thanks, i will try all your glitches 👌
if I don't want cute charm, would it be possible to rng a different TID/SID and still get the starters?
Absolutely!
would this work on emulators or should I just try to find an actual cartridge?
The way RNG Manipulation works in Gen 4 is by changing the time in the system where you're playing the game. If you're able to do that on Emulator you should be able to do this.
if you are using an emulator then just hack it in
@@drkpmnairnot everyone wants to hack in their pokemon
You could use the melon ds emulator
Hack it if ur using emulator
I need help i found a differnt id and sid with 39 sec can i use it
Does saving once you get the TID in your house mess it up?
Yes because it won't be the same SEED once you start the game again.
@@ItsLazyHunterwhy won’t it be the same seed? At what point is it okay to save the game and keep the same seed ???
Great video but I do have a question. I've been trying to get the trainer ID for a while and cant seem to get it I have gotten delays that match the 5032 but still don't get the ID. Do you have any tips for this and also how many times attempts should I be going through before I do a full restart?
Never mind I got it. My problem was that I forgot to change the target second when i wasn't hitting the right number. Your the goat thanks for the great video.
Yeah I was about to say that, congrats 👏
I DID iT WRONG AND SOMEHOW GOT A SHINY TOTODILE YIPPE
Great video but I have a question! Is the ID/SID part required for the shiny starters, or can I just follow the steps to get the starter? Just wanna make sure I have all I need before trying it.
Hi, in this case the TID/SID is needed for the shiny starter yes. This happens because we want to hit a particular seed and the only way to know that we've hit it is by knowing that you hit that TID/SID
Messed up the window bump on my first try, no shiny starters mehhhh
it has to be done all nonstop or can it be done like "in parts" (do one step, watch the video and so on)?
I just got it, shiny chikorita!!!! it has to be fully non-stop 😅😅
My New 3DS won't back out of settings by the time I'm supposed to launch the game, this is impossible lmao
You got to choose a different timer and seed then, though you won't hit the shiny starter, only cute charm glitch. You'd have to static RNG the starter in a different seed
Why will eon timer not open on my Mac??
You have an alternative for Mac in the description
Can you save the trainer ID before you do the steps? I got the same ID as you did however I saved in case inside my house. Or do I have to re do it in one seamless play without saving
With this method you have to do all in one. It's related to the seed you're in and in this video as soon as you get your TID there are 99 frame advances within your seed to get the shiny starter. If you save you reset the seed.
@@ItsLazyHunter okay thank you so much. I tried doing the method in Gen 3 video but it was taking me forever. So I moved on and tried on this. It worked, thank god, and then the only thing is I saved so that messed it up. But I have everything memorized now. If I have the ID, and get my shiny, when should I actually save my TID/SID for the game?
La there any other way to get shiny starter with other nature? I changed the Number for the cute Charm and its the same . Help :(
With this method no. This one is fixed for a particular nature and stats, we aimed for a frame advance of 99. To get another nature it requires you to figure out how many frame advances it takes from the moment you start the game in front of the starter and then choose one. I did this in my Pearl/Diamond tutorial and it's similar to what you want to do.
My delay always seem to be at 41 seconds. Should I change the timer?
You should calibrate your seconds yes
It is possible to save the game once you have achieved your target ID and then continue on from there?
With this method no, you wouldn't hit the same initial seed
@ I see so at what point can you actually save your game without worrying about losing the seed and the cute charm glitch associated with it?
Anyway to get all 3 starters?
only with a modded 3ds, or you can also can each starter and transfer to other gen 4 game
@@ItsLazyHunter appreciate the promo response. I have 2 3ds systems. What other gen 4 game can I trade between? Want to shiny hunt all the starters but then want to send them back to my HG
Followed everything and got cyndaquil, so that means this file also has the cute charm glitch?
Yes 👍
its not wroking when i want to change the time when i enter the id it wont let me it also says pm and am can you help?
Thank you for the tutorial! I have three questions:
1. Does this method work the same way on a 3DS?
2. If I only want the Cute Charm glitch and not the Shiny Starter, do I still have to follow one of the step sequences?
3. You said that I would have to transfer a Cute Charm Pokémon to the game. Does this glitch also work with a Cute Charm Pokémon caught on the profile where the glitch is active?
1. Yes, you just have to change your console on EonTimer's preferences.
2. No. As soon as you get the SID and TID you're set with the Cute Charm Glitch! You don't need to do any steps at all.
3. Yes. I only said that because it's easier and faster if you have the chance to transfer.
If you have any further questions let me know :)
@@ItsLazyHunterThanks a ton for the fast response! Are you going to upload the BW2 3DS RNG manipulation setup tutorial soon? I never get a result for the first needle search.
Realistically, how many attempts would you expect this to take someone? I feel like I keep getting close, but miss the mark. Thanks for the video!
In order to hit the correct TID/SID I'd say no more than 15/20 attempts. As for the shiny starter it has to be on the first attempt otherwise you have to hit TID again
@@ItsLazyHunter Perfect! Thank you! I happened to get it just a few attempts after commenting. Thanks! Looking forward to trying again during my Platinum playthrough. Liked and Subscribed!
Hi lazyHunter great video !! Pls tutorial manipulation RNG fire red and leaf green!!!!
Coming soon!
Hi! Let’s say I didn’t want a timid nature starter because if I were to go for a Totodile, lowering attack wouldn’t be good. How would I be able to get a specific nature?
yeah thats what im looking for too. also with a female lead for 50% ratio shinies
Are you sure this id has the cute charm glitch?
Yes.
Can this be done via macbook ?
Yes, i just did it via mac!
Can I get a shiny kanto starter with this method?
Idk
i want a further guide with this
Will happen soon!
i hit a delay of 55300 3 times in a row smh
I just want the shiny starter
Can I just pay you to do this for me 😭😭?
If send u my copy can u do it for me @LazyHunter