Everybody Says "Turn Your Hips to Start the Downswing" But It Seriously Kills Your Driver
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2023
- It's why many golfers slice and struggle to hit farther, straighter drives. Starting your downswing with hip turn brings in many problems that cause higher scores. For one, you have a greater chance of swinging over the top when you. Second, you miss out on using the hips as a power source to hit the ball much farther. One of the most profound things I learned about driving the ball well was slowing down my hip turn. It goes against everything you hear in the golf swing, but it's changes everything. This golf tip shows you how to use your hips in the correct sequence to drive farther and straighter.
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This is exactly why I try to ignore the hips completely in my swing. Some time ago Tom you mentioned in the members area of your online golf school that if we just focus on turning the shoulders properly the hips and legs will take care of themselves. When I do that with the driver, I can smash it 280 plus with good weather and relatively dry ground.
YES! Well said and well done!! (Perhaps inching up on 300 with a little breeze at your back?... 😎)
Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work!
Tom
My hips have ALWAYS been loosey goosey because of all the sports I've played and been the nemesis of my golf swing. Boy did this hit me in the head-a great lesson and visual. Can't thank you enough for your lessons. You're the best Tom. Be good-Russ
When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, Russ, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When prematurely activated, all bets are off.
Thanks - I'm glad this video connected with you!
Tom
In the last 80 years the Girls always tell me your hips are Loosey Goosey LOL. But you are correct Young Tom is the best in the business practical logical demonstrations keep it simple cut down on unnecessary moving parts . before I found young Tom I had a swing like an Octopus legs -arms all over the place LOL
Been a minute since I watched your videos. The quality of your videos improved immensely.
Welcome back! I sincerely appreciate your kind words regarding my content and I hope you'll stick around going forward!
Tom
Been following your tips for a couple of years. At the beginning of this year what you're teaching suddenly clicked with me. Since then I've reduced my handicap by 10 shots (at age 65). Thanks very much Tom keep up the good work.
That is spectacular!! I'm very glad to know that my instruction is resonating with you; excellent job incorporating it into your swing and putting it into play!!
By the way, you may be interested to know that a significant percentage of my online school members are in their 60's, 70's, and 80's - i.e.: a smorgasbord of chronic ailments, physical limitations, back/shoulder/knee/hip pain, arthritis, and joint replacements - and they are overwhelmingly elated to experience the dramatic pain-free game improvement, seemingly effortless power, and resulting enjoyment that this swing affords them. It all begins with a proper setup which provides for a free-flowing motion. Upon that good foundation a repeatable swing which produces consistently crispy impact can be built.
Have you looked into the comprehensive, sequential learning platform of the online school yet? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And if you'd like to first "dip a toe in the water" prior to diving into the school, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ That is where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner.
Thanks so much for sharing your dramatic improvement and keep up the great work!! 💪💪
Tom
Thank you Tom for your great videos. With cold weather here and leaves all over my course your videos have me looking forward to Spring
I sincerely appreciate your kind words, and I'm very glad to know that my instruction content and teaching style are resonating with you!!
With regard to that winter stuff, here is a recent video which includes a drill that can be used indoors to keep you sharp as you await the start of next season: ua-cam.com/video/-YQdrbcm8Uc/v-deo.html
Thanks for your message and support, and stay warm up there!
Tom
Thanks for this mate. You have cleared up a lot of confusion that I had from other golf tips overs the years.
The best thing is you make the swing simple to understand and put into practice.
I sincerely appreciate your kind words, Matty, and I'm very glad to know that my lesson content and teaching style are resonating with you and providing clarity and simplicity in the muddied, overly complicated, oft-conflicting realm of golf instruction.
Thanks so much for your message and support, and keep up the great work!
Cheers,
Tom
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Great teaching one I have incorporated and shortening my back swing have allowed for straighter more consistent driving…love your videos Tom!
That's fantastic, Trebby! I'm very glad to know that my instruction is resonating with you; excellent job incorporating it into your swing and putting it into play.
Thanks so much for sharing your improvement and keep up the great work!!
Tom
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Absolute gold; just spectacular. Thanks Tommy for keeping it crispy and making this stinkin game so dam easy.. .or, easy to have loads of fun, again...just outstanding.....!!
Thanks Teddy!!
Keep it crispy golden out there, and keep on having loads of fun!!
Tom
Thanks for this video! I have been confused about the hip and when to start. So many mix messages
I know... Unfortunately, such sorcery from this dark underworld of golf instruction rarely finds its way to the mainstream because if too many folks found out about it the mainstream would then be rendered irrelevant....... 😎
I'm very glad to know that this lesson clarified the correct hip action for you, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Tom
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Excellent !! Glad to hear such an advice! Everybody try to lead weekenders to turn the hips as fast as possible. I don’t think it helps. Your colleague Malaska used to say that turning the hips is a fact not a deliberate motion. Sometimes I try not to turn the hips at the driving range and when I’m filmed you can see they eventually turn ( there’s what you feel vs what you do). However, they turn following the whole swing motion not by initiating it and the gain of power and consistency is huge. Bravo monsieur !
Thanks - I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you!!
You are absolutely correct. When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When rotated too early, all bets are off. Sadly, the "firing the hips" move is routinely either improperly conveyed or misinterpreted, and as a result far too many amateur golfers are afflicted with a premature spinout of the hips in the downswing - even as early as in the transition. We see it all the time with paths that are steep and/or routed across the ball from the outside, causing a host of poor impact conditions and undesirable shots.
I appreciate your message and support!!
Tom
PS: Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Another excellent video Tom on "the proper use of the hips!" I have found that when I concentrate on the hips, my results are not always good! I like your recommendation of keeping the hips "QUIET!" I will now start doing this together with keeping my right leg quiet as well and the right foot down (since I own that foot, it's not going to run me) until after impact! Well Done Tom! Keep up the good work!!
Thanks John - I'm glad this lesson resonated with you!!
If interested, here are a couple of lesson videos related to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
Yes - you do own that foot. Make it submit to your will!! 😆
Tom
Thanks Tom! I used this tip yesterday with my 2 iron. Made a HUGE difference! Still training my mind to delay hips every time, but I'll get there!
Nice job, John!!
Since it's working for your 2 iron, I'm very confident this will translate well to your entire bag as you get more comfortable with it.
Keep up the great work!! 💪💪
Tom
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This is a great video! When my driver starts going everywhere except straight, I will remember how my swing was on the last swing. 9 out of 10 times, my hips jump out in front before my upper body which leads to the dreaded "Over the TOP"! It's a work in progress!! Thanks again for your content!!
I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you, Steven, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Yes - when properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off! Here are a couple of lesson videos related to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
Thanks for your message!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I think you will really like my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Omg. This completed eliminated my early extension and in and out swing with the hips quiet feel. You are the true MVP saguto
Awesome!! I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you; excellent job incorporating it into your swing!!
Thanks so much for your kind words and for sharing your improvement, and keep up the great work!! 💪💪
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I think you will really like my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Thanks Tom. Great advice, as always!
My pleasure, Matt - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
TS
great video!!! great work here!!
so same concept applies to the irons as well ? keep the foot on the ground ?
Thanks! And yes - this swing key also applies to the irons. In fact, it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Tom
Another great lesson as usual from the best teacher on you tube!
Thanks Chris - I'm glad you enjoyed this lesson video and I sincerely appreciate your kind words and support!!
Tom
Golden advice! Definitely need a video of course management. Best explanation on UA-cam
Thanks - I appreciate that and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
With regard to course management, here is a 9-Hole Course Vlog from a couple of years ago if you haven't already viewed it: ua-cam.com/video/YLVhf0VdWSw/v-deo.html
Tom
Wow makes complete sense now. Any wait to try this out tomorrow. Thank you!
Great! I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Tom
Great advice. It help prevent over extension and limber injury.
Thanks Sam - I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I think you will really like my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
This was incredibly helpful!!!
Thanks Julie! I'm very glad to know that this hip lesson resonated with you, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Tom
Hello Tom. I love how u swing your irons.
It's golden!! 👌 👍🏻
But delighted to see u using driver as that's my issue.
I can't wait to try n get more handsie instead of the hips. Love your videos n channel.
Rob in Ireland 🇮🇪.
I appreciate your kind words regarding my swing, Rob, and I'm glad to know that this lesson featuring the driver resonated with you! However, I am not necessarily suggesting that you get too handsy with the swing; I'd much prefer that you work towards more of a shoulder-driven motion once you have ingrained the appropriate feels.
It is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Thanks!
Tom
Great video, Tom! Unrelated question, did you switch to regular size grips from the Jumbomax grips? If so, why? I’m curious because I have Jumbomax grips on all my clubs. Thanks and keep up the great work!
Thanks Clyde - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I was using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large for much of 2022 and the first part of 2023. I had wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone.
Now, having said that, I recently purchased a new set of PXG's, and since they don't carry the Jumbo's in-house I went with their largest available grip, which is a midsize. I absolutely love the clubs, and I'm putting the factory grips through the playing test before deciding whether or not to have them regripped. There are no issues with the Jumbos and I still really like the way they feel; that's just where I'm at presently.
Having a properly sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
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Thanks for the reply, Tom. I’m glad to hear you don’t have any issues with the Jumbos. I started using them as I set up like DeChambeau. But, I use your stack and tilt technique. It’s been working well. Broke 85 but still not breaking 80. I’m getting there, though . This last video is what I’ve been looking for as I was firing my hips too much thinking that it’s the right thing to do. I was slicing my driver and didn’t know why. Hopefully, I’ll get back on here and tell you I broke 80!
Tom, thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!! I have always struggled with slicing and all the other things in my swing. Because I was always taught to clear my hips. Yesterday I started swinging with the shoulders first and now I hit further more accurate. Thank you again. If you lived closer I would take you out for a steak dinner. I appreciate this tip so much. Cheers.
My pleasure, Peter, and fabulous job transforming your swing! 💪💪
Thanks for sharing your improvement, keep up the great work, and a nice steak sure sounds good to me! 😎
Tom
This is some great stuff for sure. Thanx!
My pleasure, Christer - I'm glad to know that this lesson resonated with you!
Tom
We need another course vlog!! love to watch you play
I'm glad you enjoyed it, James!
TS
it's like Tom watches me play on Sunday, and that's how he knows what video to make next. With my golf game he'll never run out of content. Thanks Mr. Saguto, you are the man.
Indeed, Bryce - I am out there watching. Always. Watching. 😎
LOL! I'm very glad to know that my instruction content is resonating with you!!
Tom
PS: PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I think you will really like my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Tom this reminds me of your lead arm off the chest drill where you keep your trail leg straight until after impact. As I have mentioned before, that is a true game changer.
Yes Bob - these elements are definitely interrelated. It's just a matter of how individual golfers "feel" it for their own best outcome.
Keep up the great work!
Tom
I'm looking to get my game back on track this winter..... Tom, I ordered one of the precision swing aids with my CrispyKFC discount, so you'll be getting your Crispy kickback, 😂, I really hope that keeps my wrist in place. Looking forward to seeing you for some in person lessons in March!
Sounds good, Bob, and yes - the Precision Impact Trainer is designed to do that for you so you can ultimately ingrain the feel for it. He is another recent video with a drill that you can work on both indoors and out over the winter: ua-cam.com/video/-YQdrbcm8Uc/v-deo.html
Let's get you moving on that path towards KFCrispy ball striking bliss!!
Thanks,
Tom
Do you really think I'd EVER miss a Saguto video. 😂 I'm on the train to the land of fruit and honey!! @@SagutoGolf
Ty this makes sense, in trying 😊it helps!
My pleasure, Scott, and I'm very glad to know that this lesson benefited you!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is performing well for you, I think you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
My instructor has said the same thing. He noticed that I was moving my right foot way too early and as a result my hips were moving laterally too quickly. Watching this video just solidified everything! I still struggle sometimes but if I feel like I’m keeping my right foot planted for as long as possible, then I start to actually hit my drives decently
Thanks for your message, Derek - I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you.
Keep up the great work!
Tom
Hi Tom! I’ve also found another way of achieving “quiet hips”…put the trail foot slightly back. It prevents the opening of the hips or aggressive swinging (which promotes early firing of the hips).
If you tried to do either of those while your trail foot is set back, you will fall over in the follow through of the swing.
Plus a bonus of the trail foot being set back is the baby draws in the drives 😉
Yes - that is actually one of the drills I use and teach, and it is quite effective. Nice job figuring that out on your own!
Tom
Great video Tom !!!
Thank you, Mary - I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
Tom
Great post . With the elbows together, video. Great 👍 combination
Thanks Khaleel - I'm very glad to know that those two lessons clicked with you!!
Tom
Another great tip Tom
Thanks Chris - I’m glad to know that this lesson resonated with you!
Tom
Tom, I'm having major issues with my hybrid 4 wood. Do you have any content focuses mainly on hybrids?
I don't presently carry a hybrid, but it doesn't really matter since it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Tom
If you watch Moe Norman, he does exactly this with the right foot, and it doesn’t come off the ground until well after impact.
Yes! (And Mr. Norman may have know a thing or two about ball striking...😎)
When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off.
Thanks for your message!
Tom
Huge Moe fan,he had it right😎🏌🏼♂️
Delicious video!
So fast hips are the culprit for the dreaded OTT swing. If only I knew this from the very beginning. I sadly discovered this to be true the older I got. 😢
Thanks Thomas!!
I would rephrase that to say "early hips are the culprit". When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Tom
like always great lesson
Thanks - I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Tom
PS: By the way, since you are liking my channel's content, I think you will really enjoy my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Brilliant advice!
Thanks! I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you, Robert, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Tom
I'm enjoying your tuition Tom 😊
I sincerely appreciate your kind words, Mike, and I'm very glad to know that my instruction content and teaching style are resonating with you!!
Tom
PS: By the way, since you are liking my channel's content, I think you will really enjoy my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
I realized this a couple days back lol, i was hitting my 5 wood but it was launching with a fade everytime i thought about hips firing.
Nice job figuring that out!
When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off. For example, the lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are some lesson videos specific to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/Us6jSgMvJmM/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
Keep up the great work!!
Tom
PS: Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
@sagutogolf Tom, I'm assuming this is more for the non S&T crowd? For us that follow you, if your weight is forward (and more for the driver) the delayed hips is built in, correct?
Actually, everything I teach here is aligned with the Stack and Tilt system, but yes - we do need to keep the general audience in mind. For example, in S&T the lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line.
It is important to understand that the videos, lessons, and drills on this free channel - which again are fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, step-by-step, position-by-position learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing as it will make for a far more efficient and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through my UA-cam content.
Thanks for your message!
Tom
Hi tom, are you still keep the weight on your lead foot from backswing to downswing like iron swing method or you do weight swift for this driver swing? Thanks
Yes - the weight forward component also applies to the driver. In fact, it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Tom
@@SagutoGolf ok great! No i have a solid iron shot because of you. My friends called me IRONMAN. But i’m still struggling with hybrid, woods and driver 😅
tnx Tom❤
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Jincy!!
Tom
Thanks Tom
My pleasure, Martin!
I always look forward to your driver advice. Thanks to you, it's no longer the worst club in my bag (that would be my 3 wood 😆). I seem to recall you saying a long time ago that you should also delay hip turn slightly when using irons. Do I have that right?
Also, slightly off-topic, but when you set up your driver shot, do you set up with the club head centered on the ball, or off the toe? I've heard that the latter can help you hit it straighter - somehow your body adjusts on the downswing so that you actually hit it flush - but I have yet to try it.
LOL! I'm very glad to know that my instruction has released your driver from "least favored club" status!
Yes - this swing key also applies to the irons. In fact, it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
As for driver setup, I align the ball with the center of the clubface because I am confident it will return to the same spot on the way down. However, I have heard of some folks placing it more towards the toe while others say more towards the heel. Anyway, it's simple enough to experiment with at the range, so why not try it and see what works best for you?
Tom
Hey Sir, You have Moe Norman in you. That tip is a Great tip..
What a wonderful compliment, Steve!
Thanks so much - I sincerely appreciate your comparison to one of the game's true legendary ball strikers!!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I think you will really like my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Hey Tom, do you still keep the weight forward doing this? Thanks again!
Absolutely!! That is an unchanging staple of this powerful, consistent, body-friendly system.
Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Thanks!
Tom
Hello, I follow your videos, can it also be applied to 3 wood ? Thank you
Yes - this swing key also applies to the 3 wood. In fact, it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Thanks,
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Thank you, several of your tips have helped me a lot and have taken my mind off a lot of bad advice from coaches, who only teach their game and experience as a Pro, greetings from Caracas Venezuela
You have saved my driver swing... guess my problem was in the hips. Could not believe how consistent I am with just focusing on planting my trail foot! I also feel much more balanced in the swing.
Awesome!! I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you; excellent job incorporating it into your driver swing.
Thanks so much for sharing your improvement and keep up the great work!! 💪💪
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is performing well for you, I think you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Do I need to flip the wrist for driver to hit up or hold the shaft down just like Iron you have talked about?
NO! It's the same action as with the irons.
I am aware that many folks out there believe - and some even teach - that we must try to "hit up on the ball" with the driver. However, consider that in our stock setup with the driver the hands are even with the inside of the lead thigh (as they are with all clubs when playing a standard shot) and our ball position is even with the inside of the heel of the lead foot. This presets a very slight degree of forward shaft lean with the driver. Beyond that, the ball is behind the zero-point of the swing (which is even with the lead shoulder/armpit), meaning that without any contrived manipulations the club will still be on its descent - albeit very close to flat - at impact.
So, perhaps with the exception of folks with slower swing speeds - or those Long Drive participants teeing it extra high and hitting maybe 1-2 balls out of 10 onto a 60-yard wide "fairway" - in general the path is still ever so slightly down. In fact, the PGA Tour average with the driver is actually minus (e.g.: downward) 1.5 degrees - nearly level - and it should feel level - but slightly down nonetheless. (Here is an article on Ping’s website addressing this topic - ping.com/en-us/blogs/proving-grounds/optimal-launch-and-spin#:~:text=According%20to%20Trackman%2C%20PGA%20Tour,85%25%20ball%2Dflight%20laws )
For these reasons I do not advocate trying to hit up on the ball, and efforts to do so due to erroneous advice have caused many an amateur significant issues with their driver.
TS
Tom, I’ve followed your swing lessons for a couple of yrs with success. Recently I started opening my stance with all of my clubs and I feel like I get through the ball more powerfully and more consistent (I’m 62 yrs old). I can even hit a draw this way. Does this make any sense? I’d like to see a video on this at some point.
It does make sense. Consider that in the swing system I teach, we flare both feet outward 10-20 degrees in our setup to facilitate the proper amount of body-friendly, free-flowing hip turn back and through. This is a major power move that also keeps the club traveling on the correct path. If one were to square your feet so that they were perpendicular to the target line, then their hips would be impeded from turning sufficiently in the backswing (which would then inhibit the shoulders from executing a full and effortless turn), and from releasing properly in the downswing to propel the club through the zone. Restricting this action can cause a variety of path issues and/or also place strain on the lead knee and the hip joints as the hips will "want" to move laterally and turn through into the finish but will be fighting the body in the process.
So, if an open stance performs well for you, then I have no issue with it as long as it doesn't affect your alignment.
By the way, you may be interested to know that a significant percentage of my online school members are in their 60's, 70's, and 80's - i.e.: a smorgasbord of chronic ailments, physical limitations, back/shoulder/knee/hip pain, arthritis, and joint replacements - and they are overwhelmingly elated to experience the dramatic pain-free game improvement, seemingly effortless power, and resulting enjoyment that this swing affords them. As touched upon above, it all begins with a proper setup which provides for a free-flowing motion. Upon that good foundation a repeatable swing which produces consistently crispy impact can be built.
Have you looked into the comprehensive, sequential learning platform of the online school yet? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And if you'd like to first "dip a toe in the water" prior to diving into the school, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ That is where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner.
You don't need the flexibility of a Romanian gymnast - or even of this far less pliable golf instructor - to execute this swing, experience great ball striking, and reclaim - or even exceed - yardages from years past. I hope you'll give the school some thought.
Keep up the great work!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf thank you for that response. I did join your online school for a year and went through and learned through all the lessons. I stopped because I felt like I had “completed” the course but I fully intend on going back at some pt. I started working at a local golf course and one of the perks aside from free golf was that I got free lessons from our club pro (Mike Tobiason, he was on Big Break and played in two US Opens.) he showed me my video and said I have a good golf swing. It takes him a long time for him to get to some of the positions that I get to at my age and physical limitations. I have you to thank for that!
Is anyone else gonna comment on how beautiful tgat course is?? You got that spot all to yourself!! Good to be King
Indeed, Willbrook Plantation in Pawleys Island, SC is an absolutely beautiful course!
@@SagutoGolf so many courses out there in the carolinas
Does the same apply with irons Tom ? i.e. Keeping your foot on the ground ?
Yes - this swing key also applies to the irons, Mark. In fact, it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Tom
Hi Tom, Can you use the same principle to hit your irons?
Absolutely, Ed - this swing key also applies to the irons. In fact, it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Keep it KFCrispy!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf I'm very happy to read this. It means I'm on the right path to improve my game. Thanks
Thanks Tom. Couldn’t have explained this better. Have already sent this to more than 20 at my home course. Sandhurst in Melbourne. Google my home course out as I’d be interested in your thoughts. Also, any plans to visit Australia?
Thanks Marcus - I'm glad you enjoyed the episode, and I sincerely appreciate you sharing it with your fellow members!
Your course looks like an absolutely beautiful track!!
Sadly, no plans to go Down Under anytime in the near future..
Cheers,
Tom
I think what this comes down to is the disconnect and subjectivity of feel to reality. What feels like starting with your hips can differ greatly from person to person for any variety of reasons. I definitely did worse when i followed an online video of firing with hips but I think my outcome wasnt what they were intending
Sadly, the "firing the hips" move is routinely either improperly conveyed or misinterpreted, and as a result far too many amateur golfers are afflicted with a premature spinout of the hips in the downswing - even as early as in the transition. We see it all the time with paths that are steep and/or routed across the ball from the outside, causing a host of poor impact conditions and undesirable shots. When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off.
As a related example, the lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are a couple of lesson videos specific to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
Thanks for your message!
Tom
PS: Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Tom, I think the lateral targetward action you reference is a very small shift but it prevents the dreaded spin out. In my experience, when I look at good swings in slow motion, the targetward shift allows the upper trail arm and elbow to stay on the trail rib cage and come through the hitting/delivery area without being ahead of the body (pulls, hooks and maybe last second attempts to hold the face off from closing) or behind the chest and trail hip (pushes and slices and maybe flips to try and save the shot). You could also say this allows for more centeredness and balance and allows the chest to cover the ball better at impact. The point for me that is reinforced is that when the shoulders work properly, the hips don't lurch forward to start the down swing and the trail arm, elbow and hips tend to fall into place when the tempo is good. Not firing the hips leads to better sequence. Another great video. Thank you. @@SagutoGolf
Thank goodness when I heard that advice when I first started playing 35 years ago I didn’t completely understand it. I thought it meant don’t let your hands crash in to your hip, which made me naturally hit a draw. So it worked out for me, but just by mistake.😅
LOL! As Bob Ross said, "there are no mistakes, just happy accidents"..... 😎
Nice video
My concern Tom is that I will hit fat shots with the irons???
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Marco, and no - not at all. This swing key also applies to the irons. In fact, it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Tom
Loving the PGA tour look but must admit that I do miss the sword! Thanks for all the great stuff Tom.
LOL! Thanks to this internet thing, for better or worse the sword and related madness are preserved forever, Todd...... 😆😆
I’ve read that one should start transferring the weight from the right foot to the left foot before completion of the backswing. Some say by a slight fall to the left first. I find that hard to do. Tom, what in your view starts the downswing? What actually starts the transition from backswing to downswing?
Hi Paul,
We can read, watch, and listen to a lot of stuff in the realm of golf "instruction", and that will make our understanding of swing mechanics about as clear as mud. (Perhaps that's what Mr. Hogan meant when he said "the secret's in the dirt"....? 😎)
First of all, the need for a weight shift in the golf swing is one of the greatest fallacies ever taught, and it has led many an amateur golfer into the vast abyss of chronic inconsistency and frustration. This system certainly allows for some transfer of pressure into the trail side during the takeaway. After all, we are moving the mass of the arms and club backwards during that initial stage of the swing. Some like to sense the dynamic pressure shifts; others prefer the feel of a gradual increasing of weight load into the lead leg from the start. However, in either scenario the key here is that we do not allow our mass - and thereby our swing center and low point - to drift back at any point. In the swing I teach we start with our weight forward (generally 55/45 for the short and mid irons, 60/40 for the longer clubs), gradually add more forward weight load into the transition (70/30), 80/20 halfway down, 90/10 impact, and 95/5 finish. There's no "weight shift"; instead, it's just a gradually increasing load onto the lead side. And the result is a centered, low-maintenance, body-friendly, consistent, and tremendously powerful motion.
Now, having settled that, how to initiate the downswing is a loaded question because it is so dependent on individual tendencies that I cannot give a generalized answer. If I tell you that it's a lateral hip slide but your downswing already naturally has sufficient forward force, then you'll hit pushes and/or hooks all day long, and if I tell you to rotate your hips but you are already naturally applying enough outward force, then your destination is pull/slice city! I could also say the shoulders, or dropping the hands, or getting the lead arm off the chest, or rolling your trail foot targetward, or increasing pressure into the lead leg, etc. Whew! You get what I'm saying, right?....
This is why I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. However, no matter the variety of suggested feels/thoughts offered for a particular element of the swing, they are all directed at getting different golfers to achieve the desired positions, motions, and ball striking results. The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness.
Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
I'm pretty sure this is more of a response than you bargained for in a free UA-cam forum, but I hope it helped you in at least some respects!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Hi Tom,
Thank you for the quick, great, and in-depth response to my questions!
I was surprise to put it mildly!
I joined your online golf school, and started it before life situations interrupted.
I had subscribed and watched quite a few of your UA-cam videos before joining your school. I was very impressed. That’s why I joined the school.
Now I have the time to give the course the time it deserves. I am determined to learn to hit consistently good golf shots on the course where it counts ( not just on the range ), and perhaps break 80 for which I will require help from the gods 🤪, before I end up in
the “ big divot “ Lol ( I’m 75).
I usually hit my Driver decently, but am very inconsistent with clean contact with my irons. The transition to downswing is my biggest issue, and I will give alot of thought to your answer as I work through your course.
Thank you very much. I really appreciate your time and effort!
Sincerely, Paul
That driver sounds mint! I got this idea from Bradley Hughes the ex pga player. He teaches this too & he’s a great ball striker.
I'm absolutely loving my new PXG 0311 GEN6 "Howitzer"!
Yes - when properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off.
I'm glad you enjoyed this lesson video and I appreciate your validating remarks!
Tom
Everytime I see this lesson I learn something new Tom. Your foot flair to my eyes is practically 45 degrees. I'll have to try this next time out. Be good-Russ
The prescribed amount of flaring is more like 20 degrees, Russ, and camera angles can certainly skew our perspective on this. Having said that, feel free to experiment but don't get so extreme to the point of diminishing returns.
TS
I'm assuming that this is a feeling we are trying to feel? I ask bc when I watch the video in slow motion technically your hips are still firing first. Thoughts? Also, should we practice this same thing with my short and long irons as well? I do definitely hit the ball way too short for my strength and athleticism. And way too much height! Thank you!
It all depends on what "firing your hips" means to you. When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off. For example, the lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are some lesson videos specific to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/Us6jSgMvJmM/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
With regard to your ball striking and distance concerns, would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Tom
Spot on with steady hips .this will help you not swaying and will keep steady head too.
By the way, Who cut your hair?
Thanks - I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you, and you are spot on with regard to how this keeps our swing center and low point intact!
And that would be Stacy the Stylist..... 😎
TS
My personal opinion is that most amateurs need to follow the advice in this video. Most people are not using the arms and shoulders enough and are using their hips too much and too soon. Stabilize the lower body in transition and swing down more aggressively. The hips will react to the swinging arms and turn through contact where the power is needed. The exception to this is the better player who has fully developed the speed of their arm and wrist action. These players are prone to hooking and may benefit from a more aggressive hip action early in the downswing.
Thanks - I appreciate that and your assessment is spot on!
Tom
Hi Tom would like to see you playing a round of golf demonstrating all these skills.
Here is a 9-Hole Course Vlog from a couple of years ago: ua-cam.com/video/YLVhf0VdWSw/v-deo.html
TS
Ben Hogan's FIVE LESSONS. page 94. "The turning of the hips inaugurates the downswing. This movement of the hips automatically lowers arms and hands to a position just above hip level.
Page 91 The faster the hips move the better. They can't go too fast.
More way than one to skin a cat?
Actually, Robert, here is a video from my channel's old archives featuring Mr. Hogan speaking about this: ua-cam.com/video/iejRWhuB7y8/v-deo.html
Have a look at how much his hips are moving laterally. This targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are a couple of lesson videos specific to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When rotated too early, all bets are off.
Mr. Hogan delivered phenomenal and timeless instructional value, right?! But there are just so many misconceptions about his swing out there - particularly within the realm of misunderstood or misapplied instruction - that have sadly relegated generations of golfers to the vast abyss of chronic frustration. I'm doing my best here to clear these up one by one and put an end to this madness by taking what Mr. Hogan conveys in the “Five Lessons” book as his "feels", applying it to the reality of what he actually did in his swing, and translating it into something we all can learn well from. Because if we can get Hogan right there are tremendously effective swing keys to be garnered.
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Thank you Tom. Mr. Hogan calls the hip movement a turn. You have explained it as a lateral move which makes more sense, as we all want everything thing going to the target.
Thanks for the great explanation. I enjoy and have learned greatly from your channel. Keep up the good work for all of us.
@@SagutoGolf Came here to ask the same question, if this contradicts what Ben Hogan says. I still struggle with the transition but have hit some of my best irons when applying the Tiger squat and lead arm straight as my main feels. Combined with the Hogan 5 lessons setup I hope to improve my game in the next few months.
Thanks Tom for the many great videos to help visualise and simplify all these instructions!
Would this apply to iron shots as well?
Yes - this swing key also applies to the irons. In fact, it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Tom
Hey Tom, is there a point where I should ‘squat’ on the downswing?
It's not a manufactured move that I teach. There is a point in the downswing when both knees have some flex to them, but it should occur as a result of proper sequencing and not as a contrived action unto itself.
@@SagutoGolf I know you’re focusing on the online academy but how do I find out when you’re going to start having in person lessons again?
Are you still keeping weight on front foot all thru the swing?
Yes, John - the weight-forward component still applies! The need for a weight shift in the golf swing is one of the greatest fallacies ever taught, and it has led many an amateur golfer into the vast abyss of chronic inconsistency and frustration. This system certainly allows for some transfer of pressure into the trail side during the takeaway. After all, we are moving the mass of the arms and club backwards during that initial stage of the swing. Some like to sense the dynamic pressure shifts; others prefer the feel of a gradual increasing of weight load into the lead leg from the start. However, in either scenario the key here is that we do not allow our mass - and thereby our swing center and low point - to drift back at any point. In the swing I teach we start with our weight forward (generally 55/45 for the short and mid irons, 60/40 for the longer clubs), gradually add more forward weight load into the transition (70/30), 80/20 halfway down, 90/10 impact, and 95/5 finish. There's no "weight shift"; instead, it's just a gradually increasing load onto the lead side. And the result is a centered, low-maintenance, body-friendly, consistent, and tremendously powerful motion.
Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Tom
Great but what happened to moving the left hip laterally from the top to start the downswing? That was a tip in a prior vid?
That absolutely still applies, Steve! The lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are a couple of lesson videos specific to this topic that you may be referring to:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When rotated too soon, all bets are off.
Tom
PS: Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
@@SagutoGolfbery helpful. Your videos are great 👍🏽
Rare video that is sooo needed in the ocean of copycat videos. He’s spittin facts!
I sincerely appreciate your kind words, and I'm very glad to know that my lesson content and teaching style are resonating with you and providing clarity in the muddied, overly complicated, oft-conflicting realm of golf instruction!!
As for "spittin' facts"...... “Truth" is defined as that which conforms to reality, and this swing system conforms to the unchanging realities of Physics, Geometry, and data from the game’s best golf ball strikers. That's the truth, and the results - as validated by countless unsolicited testimonials - are the proof....😎
Thanks for your message and support!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I think you will really like my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
I’m going to have to try this. I keep hearing use your legs. I have massive legs (soccer player and weight lifter) but for some reason I can’t sync them up with my swing.
I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you, Jose', and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Yes - overactive legs can certainly create swing path and impact problems. Consider that when kicking a soccer ball the trail leg approaches the ball from the inside while the lead leg provides a stable, solid impact zone for your trail foot to consistently and powerfully strike the ball. In the golf swing the club approaches the ball from the inside while the legs provide stability to keep the swing's low point intact. If you "fire" your legs prematurely, then impact and shot shape will be inconsistent at best. Instead, use those powerful legs to your advantage by deploying them properly and in the correct sequence.
While there are certainly videos on my channel that address this topic, a better option for you would be my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Tom
@@SagutoGolf thank you so much Tom. I’ll check my out the course.
I've been watching various instruction videos and they all say to start with the hips. Who, you ask? Hogan, Trevino, Player, Venturi, Moe Norman, and others.
Here's my problem. I've had multiple back surgeries and old age degeneration in ny left hip. When I try to swing using their techniques i have a great deal of pain. I was thinking this morning or looking up if there is anyone on UA-cam teaching a swing for me and here is a start. After swing a club at speed i think i might have a chance at playing again.
Hi Martin,
It's not a matter of "who" said it; it really comes down to "how" they actually did it. For example, a comment on this same video from Edward stated: "I use to have the same issue, and saw Moe Norman obsess over keeping the right foot planted until after the swing, changed my game for the better."
Sadly, the "firing the hips" move is routinely either improperly conveyed or misinterpreted, and as a result far too many amateur golfers are afflicted with a premature spinout of the hips in the downswing - even as early as in the transition. We see it all the time with paths that are steep and/or routed across the ball from the outside, causing a host of poor impact conditions and undesirable shots. Yes, you can start with the hips, but not simply by spinning them! The lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are a couple of lesson videos specific to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When rotated too early, all bets are off.
Now, to your back and hip issues.... You may be interested to know that a significant percentage of my online school members are in their 60's, 70's, and 80's - i.e.: a smorgasbord of chronic ailments, physical limitations, back/shoulder/knee/hip pain, arthritis, and joint replacements - and they are overwhelmingly elated to experience the dramatic pain-free game improvement, seemingly effortless power, and resulting enjoyment that this swing affords them. It all begins with a proper setup which provides for a free-flowing motion. Upon that good foundation a repeatable swing which produces consistently crispy impact can be built.
Have you looked into the comprehensive, sequential learning platform of the online school yet? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And if you'd like to first "dip a toe in the water" prior to diving into the school, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ That is where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner.
You don't need the flexibility of a Romanian gymnast - or even of this far less pliable golf instructor - to execute this swing, experience great ball striking, and reclaim - or even exceed - yardages from years past. I hope you'll give the school some thought.
Thanks for your message!
Tom
@SagutoGolf Thanks, Tom!
Hey Tom what was it that Chubbs always said? Would you say Freddy couples used his hips in this way?
Do I do the same with irons?
Yes, Kenneth - this swing key also applies to the irons. In fact, it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Tom
I’m confused. Please compare with this new video on Eric Cogorno’s Performance Golf channel: The Secret to Leading With the Hips in the Golf Swing
No need for confusion. When properly deployed in sequence our hips play a role in preserving our downswing path and they can certainly provide a power boost. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off. For example, the lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor on the rotational component, thereby enabling the player to keep their upper torso square and their swing center intact without having to fight their body. It's also a move that you will notice with every great ball striker. (Cue up a face-on video of any Tour player, put your finger, mouse pointer, or some other reference tool on their lead hip at address, and then observe the extent to which the hips move laterally past your pointer in the downswing while the head - and thus the swing center - remains in place.) This will occur naturally if we allow it to, but unfortunately the misguided "fire the hips" notion has plagued so many amateurs with an early-onset spinout that makes them steep and across the line, or they get stuck, early extend, flip, etc. For them, the "feel" of the shoulders leading will help them to overcome this, correctly engage their hips, and fix their path, thereby leading them to a solid, "crispy" impact condition.
Here are some lesson videos specific to the topic of the lateral hip action:
- ua-cam.com/video/Us6jSgMvJmM/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
Really, though, you should stick with the online school curriculum. I do my best here on YT to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. As such, it is important to understand that the lessons on this channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, step-by-step, position-by-position learning platform like the structured curriculum of the online school, which will make for a far more efficient and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through my UA-cam content. The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness.
Those trivialities aside, Viva Cristo Rey! 😎
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Many thanks! I really do need to use my subscription to your school more. Gloria Patri….
@@SagutoGolf By the way, I’m bombing it with the Lagshot driver, so much so that I’m thinking of using it on the course! I seem to hit it better than my real drivers. Strange. Maybe you could do a video about exactly what the Lagshot trainers do for us. I can tell you that my backswing has a much slower tempo with the Lagshot driver. Then I whip it down into the ball and BOOM. Is this device trying to teach us to take that same tempo and whip feel to the real driver? Hmm…. Anyway, I’m really surprised at the capacity of this driver to hit bombs.
LOL! Yes - please do!!
I've always been told to fire the right hip at the target. The problem was, I got obsessed with it and it threw me out of whack immediately. If you make a complete shoulder turn the hips will eventually go with them. I try not to obsess with the hips any more.
Yes - you, me, and countless others fell victim to that misguided "fire the hips" notion of "conventional" instruction. In actuality, the lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are a couple of lesson videos specific to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When rotated too soon, all bets are off.
Tom
PS: Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
What brand driver are you gaming today?
It's a PXG 0311 GEN6 Driver.
4:28 🤘
With that little delay, it LOOKs like you're using the ground by getting the lead leg down as the club goes down and then pushing off to fire the legs and the hands through the ball. Am I getting this right and, maybe more importantly, what is the FEEL I should go for to make that move?
ua-cam.com/video/KXJQGLHRXIE/v-deo.htmlsi=VtDpAhxWRXgeUn8w
Here is a video from my channel's archives on leveraging the ground: ua-cam.com/video/upINMObEA_k/v-deo.html
While there is certainly more content on my channel that address this topic, a better option for you would be my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Thanks,
Tom
what they alwaays said, swing start from the leg hips shoulder and hand. now i know why it's not working .
I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
What "they" should have said is that the lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are a couple of lesson videos specific to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
Unfortunately, such sorcery from this dark underworld of golf instruction rarely finds its way to the mainstream because if too many folks found out about it the mainstream would then be rendered irrelevant....... 😎
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I think you will really like my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
I noticed that Tiger is now swinging this way with very quiet feet. Moe Norman is the best at this.
Indeed he is, Todd! His swing had already transitioned significantly well prior to the car wreck that crushed his leg, and he had won the Tour Championship and The Masters with a very centered motion that he self-described as "stacked" in a Golf Digest article. It's infinitely more body-friendly than his old move that resulted in several back and knee surgeries, yet obviously without any sacrificing of distance or accuracy.
The swing system I teach is rooted in physics, geometry, and human physiology, and it is modeled on empirical observations of the game's most prolific ball strikers (and Mr. Norman would certainly be among them!). As such it does not discriminate by age or ability - from kids to seniors and everyone in between, inclusive of the best players in the world. Beyond Tiger, watch any Tour event on TV and you'll see a significant number of players executing these motions, a fact corroborated by just how many of them have a very centered swing with the lead knee flexing and the trail leg straightening during the backswing, their lead arms on or very close to their tilted shoulder planes, and their hands deep behind their trail shoulder at the top.
Thanks for your message!
Tom
That’s good for people with that swing issue.
For a golfer like me with quick hands and a tendency to throw the hands early that suggestion doesn’t apply.
This is why I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another.
The lessons on this channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, step-by-step, position-by-position learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing as it will make for a far more efficient and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through my UA-cam content. The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result of the school, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews.
Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to my formal instruction style.
Tom
I’m gunna play 9 tmrw to try this. I will tee off at 10am. It will be 34 degrees!
Yikes! I remember those days from when I lived in PA...... 😬
Anyway, I hope this performs well for you if you are able to get your body to move in those temps....😆
Tom
Slow motion would be very helpful!
I slow down my swing in numerous videos, Julie, but even when I don't you can still manually adjust the playback of any YT video to as slow as 1/4-speed by clicking on the settings button at the lower right side of the video player. Or you can pause a video and press the period ( . ) button to advance frame by frame and the comma ( , ) to reverse frame by frame.
TS
In his book Hogan DOES endorse initiating the downswing with the hips
BUT he says that in his downswing he has ZERO thoughts. None. Zilch.
So, whatever initiation there was, for him, was totally unconscious.
I find that when I think about my hips my swing is invariable worse.
Some people swear by it, "firing the hips", but .... I'm with you, Tom.
Sadly, Justin, the "firing the hips" message is an all-too-common one that is routinely either improperly conveyed or misinterpreted, and as a result far too many amateur golfers are afflicted with a premature spinout of the hips in the downswing. As discussed in the video, we see it all the time with paths that are steep and/or routed across the ball from the outside, causing a host of poor impact conditions and undesirable shots. This lesson is intended to lead "hip-firing" golfers out of this abyss of perpetual frustration. When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When rotated too early, all bets are off.
As for Mr. Hogan, he sure delivered phenomenal and timeless instructional value, right?! But there are just so many misconceptions about his swing out there - particularly within the realm of misunderstood or misapplied instruction - that have sadly relegated generations of golfers to the vast abyss of chronic frustration. I'm doing my best here to clear these up one by one and put an end to this madness by taking what Mr. Hogan conveys in the “Five Lessons” book as his "feels", applying it to the reality of what he actually did in his swing - which, with regard to the hips, is captured in this lesson from my channel's archives: ua-cam.com/video/iejRWhuB7y8/v-deo.html - and translating it into something we all can learn well from. Because if we can get Hogan right there are tremendously effective swing keys to be garnered.
Thanks!
Tom
So Tom, isn’t that a result of not using the ground to start the downswing? It seems like all of the pros push into their lead foot keeping the body stable into the swing and keeping their hips driving the swing forward and pushing up, not spinning in a circle. Bryson and Rory have some great videos showing how to get the power from the ground.
Hi Mike,
The lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. (Yes - one "feel" for accomplishing this is to increase pressure into the lead leg/foot at the transition.) Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are a couple of lesson videos specific to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
Thanks,
Tom
ok Tom...I get what you are saying and love your teaching....however when I look at slow motion of Ben Hogan he sure looks like his first move in transition is to shift his hips ever so slightly forward and the arms are not moving....are my eyes deceiving me? Is the hips first move something that only elite players can execute correctly after 10000 hours of practice?
No - your eyes are not deceiving you, and it is actually a very accurate observation!
When properly deployed in sequence our hips play a role in preserving our downswing path and they can certainly provide a power boost. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off. For example, the lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor on the rotational component, thereby enabling the player to keep their upper torso square and their swing center intact without having to fight their body. It's also a move that you will notice with every great ball striker. (Cue up a face-on video of any Tour player, put your finger, mouse pointer, or some other reference tool on their lead hip at address, and then observe the extent to which the hips move laterally past your pointer in the downswing while the head - and thus the swing center - remains in place.) This will occur naturally if we allow it to, but unfortunately the misguided "fire the hips" notion has plagued so many amateurs with an early-onset spinout that makes them steep and across the line, or they get stuck, early extend, flip, etc. For them, the "feel" of the shoulders leading will help them to overcome this, correctly engage their hips, and fix their path, thereby leading them to a solid, "crispy" impact condition.
It is important to understand that I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. As such, it is important to understand that the lessons on this channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, step-by-step, position-by-position learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing as it will make for a far more efficient and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through my UA-cam content. The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result of the school, and their unsolicited testimonials tell the story quite well: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews.
Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to my formal instruction style.
Thanks!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Hi Tom
Thanks for the extensive response. I joined your online school the other day.
I totally get what you are saying and doing. You are the best that I have come across at articulating a simple repeatable swing that lets you enjoy the game of golf. Your method and template totally resonate with me. Keep up the good work!!
TOM PREVIOUSLY YOU HAD GONE INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT HOGAN STARTING DOWN WITH THE HIPS WHICH PULLS CLUB INTO CORRECT POSITION AND PATH!?!
I believe you are misunderstanding what I am conveying, Kevin. This lesson from my channel's archives was specific to Mr. Hogan's hip action: ua-cam.com/video/iejRWhuB7y8/v-deo.html
Sadly, the "firing the hips" move is routinely either improperly conveyed or misinterpreted, and as a result far too many amateur golfers are afflicted with a premature spinout of the hips in the downswing - even as early as in the transition. We see it all the time with paths that are steep and/or routed across the ball from the outside, causing a host of poor impact conditions and undesirable shots. For example, outside of this channel far too little - if anything - is said about the lateral targetward action of the hips, which acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. This is what Mr.' Hogan is clearly demonstrating in the referenced video. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are a couple of lesson videos specific to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
When properly deployed in the correct sequencing, our hips are a tremendous source of power. When rotated too early, all bets are off.
Tom
PS: By the way, it is important to understand that the videos, lessons, and drills on this free channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, step-by-step, position-by-position learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing, as it will make for a far more efficient and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through my UA-cam content. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result of the school, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And here's a link to my free mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
This guy gives the best advice. That, "Fire the hips" bullshit is bullshit and ruins a lot of swings. Mo Norman said he doesn't think about his hips. If you're doing the right things with your arms, the hips work naturally by themselves.
Thanks - I appreciate that.
Sadly, many misconstrued and/or misguided teachings of "conventional" instruction - such as taking the club straight back, turning the shoulders level while independently lifting the club, shifting into and torquing against a firm trail side, firing the hips, actively hinging the wrists and rolling the hands through impact, etc. - have relegated generations of golfers to the vast abyss of chronic frustration (and chronic back/knee/hip pain as well). I’m doing my best here to clear these up one by one and put an end to this madness.
Thanks for your validating remarks and support!
Tom
In the end you swing with your arms off of a stable, reliable platform. The level of practice and athleticism determines the synchronization of all this. That is why the pros are muscling up. Saw a video extolling the hip thing, saying he was not swinging at all and generated a 110 club speed. Hmmm, then why can’t little girls who can hula hoop 100 mph hit it 300 yards?
It's all about physics, geometry, and human physiology, Carl. Combine them in a complimentary manner and anyone who is physically capable can have a powerful, consistent, low-maintenance, body-friendly swing with which to truly enjoy this great game for the rest of their life. We can indeed simplify the swing and eliminate variables so as not to have to rely on timing and/or exceptional athleticism, and I believe the results - as backed up by countless unsolicited testimonials from men and women spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - offer sufficient proof: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Here is a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Thanks,
Tom
That is definitely my problem Tom. I believe I fire the hips first which causes an over-the-top, outside to in, or very steep club path. Which leads to slices and/or snap hooks. What would a good drill be to create muscle memory to delay the hips from firing early?
You're definitely not alone, and nice job recognizing that in your swing!
The lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor to prevent a premature over-rotation and thereby enables the player to keep his upper torso square without having to fight their body. Most amateur golfers already have plenty of the rotational component; they need to build in the lateral hip slide to suppress the early-onset spinout that causes so many to get steep and across the line. Here are a couple of lesson videos specific to this topic:
- ua-cam.com/video/dB4ItR3guGU/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/I5XYgKopTb4/v-deo.html
I hope that helps!
Tom
PS: Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Yes, turning the hips left from the top is a non concept. hogan banged on about it in his shell lesson; but look at where his right leg is going and where it goes when he hits the ball. and, all this is based on the myth that we create coil in the backswing; and, then unleash the coil in the start of the downswing; but, no. and, when you stop to think about it, if we increase coil in the start of the downswing we will increase power. and, it is so easy to prove this. swing back to the top, with just your left hand on club, stop; and, then recommence your backswing by pushing back with the joint of your left wrist. your left shoulder will react and turn to the left. as, momentum and resistance build up the whole of the left side will be brought into the equation. but, crucially the left foot will apply pressure on the ground. when we actively turn the hips etc. the left foot loses control.
Yes, and I appreciate the validating remarks and detail!!
There are just so many misconceptions about his swing out there - particularly within the realm of misunderstood or misapplied instruction - that have sadly relegated generations of golfers to the vast abyss of chronic frustration. I'm doing my best here to clear these up one by one and put an end to this madness by taking what Mr. Hogan conveys in the “Five Lessons” book as his "feels", applying it to the reality of what he actually did in his swing, and translating it into something we all can learn well from. Because if we can get Hogan right there are tremendously effective swing keys to be garnered.
Thanks again!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf well, yes; but i don't think hogan was too particular what about what he told us. and, in some ways he actually did entirely the opposite to what he told us. in mf he told us to connect the arms with the body; but, in practice he actually moved his arms out well away from his body, at address. he actually addressed the ball out of the toe and then arched his wrists and reached the club out to the ball to stretch his arms out away from his body. he, obviously, did this to make room to take the club back on the inside. i don't like either method to honest with you. but, either way, whatever his feels were i don't think he ever felt it for other golfers. if there is a vid that gives his secret away it is the coleman vid ua-cam.com/video/u8DUJqgopOU/v-deo.htmlsi=viS5ony1PbJnoqK5 @6.30 he does his slow mo drill. given the nature of his secret the club has to accelerate when it is parallel to the target, in the backswing. and, you can see that it clearly accelerates at this point. but, its nothing that bobby jones didn't do anyway. you, actually maintain a better level left position than hogan. he had a proclivity to swing off the ball in his early days which was difficult to get out of. but, hogan was a pioneer of ulnar deviation and got his hands quite high at address. his club laid flat on the ground, always. and, you can see how rory takes immaculate care to ensure his club is lying flat at address. and, really this is essential hogan for all hogan aficionados.
Little confused by this video. By telling the hips to hold - are you saying lateral movement first then “fire” the hips?
Shoulders start the downswing? I thought lateral movement starts the downswing with driver and irons? The shoulders then arms then hands follow…
Hi James,
When properly deployed in sequence our hips play a role in preserving our downswing path and they can certainly provide a power boost. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off. For example, the lateral targetward action of the hips that you referenced acts as a governor on the rotational component, thereby enabling the player to keep their upper torso square and their swing center intact without having to fight their body. It's also a move that you will notice with every great ball striker. (Cue up a face-on video of any Tour player, put your finger, mouse pointer, or some other reference tool on their lead hip at address, and then observe the extent to which the hips move laterally past your pointer in the downswing while the head - and thus the swing center - remains in place.) This will occur naturally if we allow it to, but unfortunately the misguided "fire the hips" notion has plagued so many amateurs with an early-onset spinout that makes them steep and across the line, or they get stuck, early extend, flip, etc. For them, the "feel" of the shoulders leading will help them to overcome this, correctly engage their hips, and fix their path, thereby leading them to a solid, "crispy" impact condition.
In more general terms, I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. As such, it is important to understand that the lessons on this channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, step-by-step, position-by-position learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing as it will make for a far more efficient and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through my UA-cam content. The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result of the school, and their unsolicited testimonials tell the story quite well: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews.
Would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to my formal instruction style.
Tom
I assume this works for irons too correct in all numbers practically?
Yes - this swing key also applies to the irons. In fact, it is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Tom
My biggest issue is not turning my left hip out of the way which can cause shots to go either right or left.
The proper hip action in the downswing is a combination of lateral (targetward) and rotational. A deficiency in one or the other can certainly cause path and ball flight issues.
While there are certainly videos on my channel that address this topic, a better option would be my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Tom