I used to think that people used Assyrian writing in their stories to show something was just super old, but now I see that it was used in games like Doom 3 to draw a parallel between the literal demons from hell and these people.
My favourite is the Scottish highland leader who demoralised his clan by - while sleeping out in a snowy field - made himself a little snow pillow for his head. The big girl's blouse.
Persons in neighbouring kingdoms said, "Nah, the Assyrians are great, let them all cross our borders, diversity yay, preventing them from coming here is waycist, what's the worst that could happen?"
This doesn't work because the issue with the Assyrians was the Assyrian Empire not individual Assyrian people. Outside of state violence the Assyrians before the First Assyrian Empire and after the last Assyrian Empire aren't known for their violence.
NOOOOOOOOO! YOU CAN'T JUST DESTROY THOSE WHO WISH TO DESTROY YOU! STEVEN UNIVERSE TAUGHT ME THAT EVERY BAD GUY CAN BE REASONED OUT OF THEIR EVIL DEEDS! NOOOOOOOOOOO!
One of the steppe peoples that the Urartu had to deal with, the Cimmerians, actually may have settled in Urartu. There's a city in Armenia called Gyumri and it's thought to be named after the Cimmerians. In fact, Rusa had been dealing with Cimmerian incursions before he was defeated by Sargon II. And the Urartu themselves were half steppe people too. We Armenians made up a big part of the Urartu Kingdom, the first king even had an Armenian name, as did a few other kings, and we descended from the same Indo European horse rider tradition as the Scythians and Cimmerians. They've even found some warrior women riders buried in Armenia.
I really love this, one of my favorite time periods and empires yet nearly no one knows anything about this period. I also loved that account from Sargon II because it illustrates their combined arms forces: chariots, cavalry, infantry, and light infantry. Historians often act as of light infantry was somehow a later invention as if people with slings and simple javelins wouldn’t have been the first troop type after a club or spearman. Assyrians operating in the mountains is an interesting image, getting nearly mutinous is crazy to think about though, since you know their punishments would make Roman punishments look like mercy.
I'd like to point out that 'Kings' of that age were very much of the 'Disobey and I will have your Name and family erased from reality' kind of power levels. If you were not prestigious enough to begin with, serving the King meant your entire existence as well as your family were under that authority. Shame in the moment was one thing, punishment for failed Mutiny and Sedition could be worse than death.
The punishment for being late to muster was impalement within ones own home. The location was of particular significance because a home was/is, in many parts of the world particularly that region, a sacred place.
On the note of the Assyrian Engineers one of my favorite things about them is that they had a bit of a trick for attack walls, allegedly they'd run up the ladders shield and axe in hand.
Nah, Harry's a twat and whiner. He would complain about leading an army, how troublesome the terrain and weather is. Then say Kate is too ugly for his taste in women.
“O thou heroin among the Gods; like a bundle rip him open in the midst of battle. Rise up against him a tempest, an evil wind.” Ancient Assyrian prayer to Ishtar before battle.
@@rworded morality is not a technology. You don't invent it. Human nature has not changed one iota in that last 10,000 years, and morality is nothing more (or less) than acting in accord with one's nature. That's the one and only reason communism doesn't work. If human nature (and by extension morality) were changeable, the Soviet union would have been a roaring success.
@@marvalice3455it was necessary. You live such a sheltered life. Put yourself in the shoes of a king back then. You HAD to show your ferocity and ruthlessness or one way or another you WOULD have been betrayed by someone with more ambition. Weak kings are exactly that. Just another weak link in the chain that could collapse a whole dynasty.
@@عليياسر-ذ5ب new sect created by britains?? You know that Assyrians have prevailed their language and faith for generations. Unlike arabs who came far away the Assyrian empire. If you are gonna talk about Britain then let me remind you that the majority of arab countries were drawn by the Brits after the world war 1 😂😂😂
When I read the Old Testament and read about all the massacres Hebrews committed (during the time of Joshua and Saul) I don't think Assyrians were particularly evil for the time.
The British Islanders do know what the steppe warriors were like. They are them. Since that most ancient time those steppe men went as far west as possible
Ehh, when the yamnaya went westward they kinda softned up, there's a big difference in being a steppe nomad in ukraine and being a farmer in western europe.
@@NateSpinney No, they were Indo-Europeans, and the British Islanders at the time would have been from the Celtic bent stemming from the Celtic-Italian bent. They all share a simalar tounge, and relegious tradition. There are very good videos out there describing the migration process, lingustic traditions, and mythology.
@@rworded before you lost ww2, your people used the right word for it for thousands of years, it was even carved in stone in ancient times. Nate is right. You are right. But they only changed the term to indo European which is only a language categorization, but purposefully obfuscates the people involved, since it's also used to say 'indo europeans' as if saying its a people group but not being specific. The purpose is to obfuscate it so you don't know.
@@arturnicaciodeandrade9861 'softened up' *Steppe warrior goes west, upends the existing social order and installs his new one, lives off cattle rearing and war as defining parts of civilization for thousands of years* Some would call the Alani and the Saxon man a savage and brutal man. They captured the skulls of even their neighbors to place them in the world pillars. The Scottish are Scythians too, and that happened more recently, when they moved over the Irish made them marry their women to own all of Scotland, and with visible effect
Something similiar to what you said about the Urartu can be said about ther Macedonians. I believe the reason they became some of the best fighters in the Hellenic world and ended up produsing figures such as Alexander the Great is because they had to act as the bulwark against barbarism, protecting the rest of the Greeks from the Thracians and Illyrians
Mongols killed everyone even innocent farmers. Assyrians didn't kill the people that didn't fight against them but in some cases deported instead. So instead of being a propaganda parrot, tell us in what way are Assyrians more evil than Mongols? Or even more evil than modern empires?
Two people judging an empire to serve some special interest. Assyrian Empire kings punishing those countries within their empire boundaries who refuse to pay Texas is evil but those modern civilizations who carpeted bombing countries and threw nuclear bomb on a country is not evil. Reference about what I just said is in the book THE MIGHT THAT WAS ASSYRIA by H. W. F. Saggs.
I think the same point of view may be said of Life itself. If a specific group of people does not defend its exitance, no one will, and that group will be dominated by those who are more aggressive or conniving. Europeans must relearn that value, our "leadership" does not care for us.
no, thats *really* not true. that's like saying the mafia were just like everyone else, or isis is only a product of their time. it's not only stupid and wrong, but also dismissive of what is actually happening, and the real factors at play.
@@marvalice3455 they had the first empire. They had to do what they had to do to maintain order and cohesiveness without benefit of communications or anything else but reputation. There’s a reason why fear is still the #1 tactic used by governments and organizations. It works better than much else. The old kings couldn’t have others even think of crossing or betraying them. Loyalty had to be maintained by any means. So made examples.
@@oyonan yeah, there is a reason. Because of the damage vice does to one's intellect. Indulgence in vice makes you an idiot. And those in power have far more access to far more vice than you can even imagine
@@oyonan On the other hand that kind of loyalty never lasts longer until someone comes on the scene who can kick your ass. That's how a handful of Conquistadors could bring down the Aztecs. They ruled by fear and were intensely hated, so the moment the instrument of their doom arrived they all bailed ship and starting to help the Conquistadors. Now take the Romans and their system of rule was through assimilation. And it was so successful there were people who considered themselves Roman a millennium after the fall of Rome itself. Rule through fear is the easiest form of empire building, and the one with the least amount of long term success.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 That was a fairly new Civilization comparatively, look at the brutality of the Republican Rome compared to late the Christianized Empire. Romulus killed his own brother in the Roman mythos... at the other side of the continent, when Christianity was spreading in Europe, Confusious was writing about morals. The morals of ancient Civilizations just isn't that soft, it was brutal. The newer softer philosophies of ethics just hadn't been invented. The Ancient peoples admired strength, period.
Funnily enough the land of Nod mentioned in the Bible which is where Cain went to, is the Steppes. The Steppes is also where the Denisovan culture was, which enslaved other ethnic groups and was the first to start developing technology
9:35 "They don't define themselves outside of religion" Well, you would be right Carl, if the word "religion" was defined in the ancient word. The word "religion" was ahead of their time and the time of the Torah (try to find in the OG Torah script the word "דת" which is the word for religion). Heck, the Japanese never had a word for "religion" and for their own "native religion" called "Shinto" It was simply apart of the life. However, Christianity & Islam, unlike Judaism & Assyrian's culture, are first and foremost a religion, i.e. a 2nd alt identity for one's values and principles. Not something natively built-in from the culture of the ethnic group.
The drama from Netflix make the grey cells work and ask the question. Stone Age Mesopotamia, were they responsible for pushing the blacks out of Egypt?
The ancestors of the Amazigh have been in North Africa since shortly after the last glacial maximum. I don’t know why you’d assume that ancient Egypt, being both in North Africa and directly adjacent to West Asia, would have had a complexion that was ethnically disparate from those regions.
The only blacks in Egypt were the nubians and they were far from the Pyramids. Cleopatra was Greek which meant she wasn't black. Try to educate yourself and know propaganda when you see it
@@TheSicarius92 Brawndo has a point with the Amazigh. But we know Carthage wasn't ruled by blacks either, the were said to be related to Troy. So the East had spread quite a way along the coast. I think the black narrative supporters have blocked my reply to Brawndo. They only support PC disinformation and call everything else racist.
The world we are currently in reminds me of the fall of the Assyrian empire. The book of Nahum is a prophetic oracle that describes the fall of Nineveh, the capital of Assyria. The prophet Nahum wrote it approximately 663-612 B.C. just before the fall of Nineveh in 612 B.C. The book describes how an attacker advances against Nineveh and how the Lord will restore the splendor of Jacob like the splendor of Israel. It also describes how Nineveh summons her picked troops, yet they stumble on their way and how the river gates are thrown open and the palace collapses. It is decreed that Nineveh be exiled and carried away. Her female slaves moan like doves and beat on their breasts.
But God commanded the Pharaoh of Egypt to hang the first. When Solomon died, he commanded him to take control of Solomon's land, destroy the temple, and make a large number of Jews slaves.
Assyrians were not a savage culture at heart - that is just a face they could present amongst many. They have MANY other faces, they were like the Romans - yes they did have a savage military culture but that was a feature of every other civilisation as well. It was certainly not a unique feature of any of the Akkadian settlements and cultures. I would have said that philosophy and scientific process development were the unique attributes of the Assyrians. Though not much has been found of them (maybe not that much remains after 5000-10000 years), but what we do know of them from their literature is that the Assyrians were a great culture as well as a powerful militarised nation. Where do you think Sargon get his name from? King Sargon of Akkad who is attributed with helping develop codified law similar to what the Christians created later in the West. That is not what you get from savage people, it's what you get from generations of thinkers.
Probably not. Geography, power vacuums, and culture seems to play a much larger role in Middle Eastern politics. There isn’t a whole lot that makes Middle Eastern DNA distinctive from European or North African DNA.
Yes, I think the term, cruel, to describe these empires is probably better. They didn't do what they did to be a bad guy, it served a purpose. The cruelty of their punishments maintained order in a chaotic world.
@Berserker but even cruel is a matter of perspective. According to some, not allowing a boy to cut off his penis because he believes he is a girl is cruel
@@paddywop918 In any literal definition of the word, surgically altering a child to suffer chronic pain their whole life and a permanent open wound is actual cruelty. I feel like I'm going crazy with the current state of the world. The greatest evil imaginable just 4-5 years ago was FGM. Basically surgically altering young females to appease a particular fetish in nasty places in the world. Now its state-sponsored in the west.
Sorry but there is zero logic to your 'necessary cruelty' prison analogy. When you rule with fear you end up surrounded by frenemies who are then glad to watch you fall. Or even, they help bring about your fall. Another example would be the Spanish conquistadors being helped by surrounding tributaries of the Aztecs, they helped the Spanish invaders because they strongly disliked the Aztecs, for that very reason of their cruel abuses of power. And in prison it's very much the same, you can try ruling with fear but you'll just end up having your head being used as a literal football, as happened to a 'big alpha dog gang boss' recently in Ecuador. They played actual footie with his detached noggin. Whereas if you are kind and helpful, like Andy DuFresne in The Shawshank Redemption, then people appreciate you and maybe even reciprocally help you out here and there. Even if you are a wimpy dweeb, you'll be mostly fine, judging from that film anyway. Just need to watch out for the g-lawdz. So, in conclusion then, the Assyrian kings were twats because they simply just WERE twats.
I think the fate of Caesar at the hands of the senators he spared shows that ain't no guarantee (though I will grant it probably didn't help that he often seemed to know the wives of a lot of those senators better than the senators themselves). I don't know if I'd agree with those who treated the Assyrians as "normal" for their time, but there is something to be said for the fact that most kings saw it as their job to kill their enemies, then the people who acted stupid or made trouble, and thus maintain the status quo with them on top. In return for obeying, people got to live lives that were relatively stable compared to hunter-gatherer living or the lives of mountain tribes or desert nomads.
Beau, there exists no such thing as "the urartu people". That's something you just made up. It would be like saying "the byzantium people" or "the gaul people" or "the britannia people" etc. The so called "urartu people" were by all means the ancectors of Armenians and most likely Armenians themselves, even more so than Gauls are ancestors of the French. The Gauls adopted the identity of their Frankish invaders. No information about "the urartu" adopting the identity of any mythical Armenian invaders. The achaemenid Persians even recognized them as the same people in their trilingual inscriptions. Names such as Urartu, Armina and Harminuya were considered synonimous. That being said. I appreciate that you presented the iron-age Armenian kingdom as a capable advesary of Assyria. Not as some bumfuck backwards tribal country, like a certain other mountainous country that's featured a lot in the news these days. I found that the portrayal of Armenia (or lack there of) in your xenophon video wasn't as fair.
No, at the very least it is certain there was a linguistic identity there before the Armenian language and in the spirit of modern classfication based on language and ethnicity as a unit, they will be classified separately unless one can show how the linguistic transition occured without a change in identity.
You awlad alqahba only know what the enemy wrote about the Assyrians, in reality they were an empire that built on high culture and judged fairly between different peoples.
Sargon talking about Sargon
Lol first. Carl you better like this and reward me with a rant about the progressive stack
The inception of the Sargon inception
not the same Sargon tho
Modern Sargon of Akkad (Carl Benjamin) talking about the Strong, Tough Sargon of Ancient Akkad!!!
I wonder if Sargon will try Sargon's campaign in AOE2 Return of Rome.
I used to think that people used Assyrian writing in their stories to show something was just super old, but now I see that it was used in games like Doom 3 to draw a parallel between the literal demons from hell and these people.
Judaism has fucked up the world.
asura from Indian mythology ?
Assyrians were monsters so that makes sense.
@@DegenevestingKing Nebuchadnezzar II, the Armenians, the Persians, the Medeans, and the Jews love you, my brother
1:03 "So, Sargon II goes out there" - Carl chuckles, imagining his son conquering some land around modern Armenia.
"There's a mountain in the way."
"Then we'll cut our way through it."
Once word leaks out that an Assyrian king's gone soft, then it's nothing but work, work, work all the time!
😂
Life is pain, highness, anyone who tells you otherwise is selling something.
My favourite is the Scottish highland leader who demoralised his clan by - while sleeping out in a snowy field - made himself a little snow pillow for his head. The big girl's blouse.
Persons in neighbouring kingdoms said, "Nah, the Assyrians are great, let them all cross our borders, diversity yay, preventing them from coming here is waycist, what's the worst that could happen?"
The sea people did an uno reverse card.
This doesn't work because the issue with the Assyrians was the Assyrian Empire not individual Assyrian people. Outside of state violence the Assyrians before the First Assyrian Empire and after the last Assyrian Empire aren't known for their violence.
NOOOOOOOOO! YOU CAN'T JUST DESTROY THOSE WHO WISH TO DESTROY YOU! STEVEN UNIVERSE TAUGHT ME THAT EVERY BAD GUY CAN BE REASONED OUT OF THEIR EVIL DEEDS! NOOOOOOOOOOO!
At least in Dragon Ball Z it only worked every other villain
Beware your enemies once, but your friends a thousand times, for a betraying friend knows more evil.
Old Arab saying,
Source unknown.
Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Source
Adolf Hitler
One of the steppe peoples that the Urartu had to deal with, the Cimmerians, actually may have settled in Urartu. There's a city in Armenia called Gyumri and it's thought to be named after the Cimmerians. In fact, Rusa had been dealing with Cimmerian incursions before he was defeated by Sargon II.
And the Urartu themselves were half steppe people too. We Armenians made up a big part of the Urartu Kingdom, the first king even had an Armenian name, as did a few other kings, and we descended from the same Indo European horse rider tradition as the Scythians and Cimmerians. They've even found some warrior women riders buried in Armenia.
But you are an ancient people. Even the Babylonians mentioned you before the Assyrians
@@عليياسر-ذ5بProbably. I think it's likely the Hayassa Azzi were Armenians, their name is similar to ours.
I really love this, one of my favorite time periods and empires yet nearly no one knows anything about this period. I also loved that account from Sargon II because it illustrates their combined arms forces: chariots, cavalry, infantry, and light infantry. Historians often act as of light infantry was somehow a later invention as if people with slings and simple javelins wouldn’t have been the first troop type after a club or spearman. Assyrians operating in the mountains is an interesting image, getting nearly mutinous is crazy to think about though, since you know their punishments would make Roman punishments look like mercy.
To hold absolute power you must be willing to weld it absolutely or ultimately, you hold nothing.
Now that is a nice quote.
MAKE THE ASSYRIAN EMPIRE GREAT AGAIN.
We really need the Assyrians to come back.
No pls the world has enough evil as it is.
@@ottovrizo5693 Islam is its direct replacement.
I knew an Assyrian. He was NUTS and their SECOND empire was like 32 cities TOTAL in a not so big area
@@OffGridInvestor Hundreds of Assyrians with rubber dinghies arrive in Dover every week.
What happens next?
They chopped through rock with axes...to make a new path in mountains. Yah no wonder they were feeling mutinous that sounds arduous as hell.
Chaos dwarves
and then Sargon III-V were turned into computer chess software and Sargon VI made a youtube channel
“Saved the hassle” I relation to the steppe peoples is possibly the most British thing I’ve heard all week.
Good show, sir!
I'd like to point out that 'Kings' of that age were very much of the 'Disobey and I will have your Name and family erased from reality' kind of power levels. If you were not prestigious enough to begin with, serving the King meant your entire existence as well as your family were under that authority. Shame in the moment was one thing, punishment for failed Mutiny and Sedition could be worse than death.
The punishment for being late to muster was impalement within ones own home. The location was of particular significance because a home was/is, in many parts of the world particularly that region, a sacred place.
It was the crazy beards and crazy hats … in that heat, they would drive anyone crazy.
On the note of the Assyrian Engineers one of my favorite things about them is that they had a bit of a trick for attack walls, allegedly they'd run up the ladders shield and axe in hand.
Kingdom Gone : if this was another age, Harry would have returned with an army & beheaded his father, then slayed his brother to marry Kate.
Or after a failed attempt to dethrone his father he got quartered and then beheaded himself. He is after all Harry, the biggest loser of the family.
Nah, Harry's a twat and whiner. He would complain about leading an army, how troublesome the terrain and weather is. Then say Kate is too ugly for his taste in women.
If this was a different age Harry would not have been allowed to marry an American!
“O thou heroin among the Gods; like a bundle rip him open in the midst of battle. Rise up against him a tempest, an evil wind.” Ancient Assyrian prayer to Ishtar before battle.
Assyrians seem more brutal than Chaos Dwarfs in Warhammer who are based on them some what
Because the Old Testament is not an unbiased historical document.
The level of cruelty is incredible but it was a necessary level for the time. Because, everyones cruelty was incredible.
well no, it wasn't necesary. it is *understandable* but you could have had the effective military without the cruelty.
TND was the norm
@@marvalice3455 No you couldn't, that type of morality hadn't been invented.
@@rworded morality is not a technology. You don't invent it.
Human nature has not changed one iota in that last 10,000 years, and morality is nothing more (or less) than acting in accord with one's nature.
That's the one and only reason communism doesn't work. If human nature (and by extension morality) were changeable, the Soviet union would have been a roaring success.
@@marvalice3455it was necessary. You live such a sheltered life. Put yourself in the shoes of a king back then. You HAD to show your ferocity and ruthlessness or one way or another you WOULD have been betrayed by someone with more ambition. Weak kings are exactly that. Just another weak link in the chain that could collapse a whole dynasty.
And today the Assyrians are all Christians. Praise Jesus.
No, this is a new sect created by Britain, the Antichrist 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@عليياسر-ذ5ب new sect created by britains?? You know that Assyrians have prevailed their language and faith for generations. Unlike arabs who came far away the Assyrian empire. If you are gonna talk about Britain then let me remind you that the majority of arab countries were drawn by the Brits after the world war 1 😂😂😂
Been looking forward to part 3, went back through Caligula, Nero, and Claudius one in the meantime. Do love the full series on the site.
Read the bible sometime too. Most trusted ancient source.
As an Assyrian I approve this message
When I read the Old Testament and read about all the massacres Hebrews committed (during the time of Joshua and Saul) I don't think Assyrians were particularly evil for the time.
When you read the history of the ancient Middle East, you will know that the Assyrians were evil and resembled Gog and Magog.
The British Islanders do know what the steppe warriors were like. They are them. Since that most ancient time those steppe men went as far west as possible
Ehh, when the yamnaya went westward they kinda softned up, there's a big difference in being a steppe nomad in ukraine and being a farmer in western europe.
Indo-Europeans
@@NateSpinney No, they were Indo-Europeans, and the British Islanders at the time would have been from the Celtic bent stemming from the Celtic-Italian bent. They all share a simalar tounge, and relegious tradition. There are very good videos out there describing the migration process, lingustic traditions, and mythology.
@@rworded before you lost ww2, your people used the right word for it for thousands of years, it was even carved in stone in ancient times. Nate is right. You are right. But they only changed the term to indo European which is only a language categorization, but purposefully obfuscates the people involved, since it's also used to say 'indo europeans' as if saying its a people group but not being specific. The purpose is to obfuscate it so you don't know.
@@arturnicaciodeandrade9861 'softened up'
*Steppe warrior goes west, upends the existing social order and installs his new one, lives off cattle rearing and war as defining parts of civilization for thousands of years*
Some would call the Alani and the Saxon man a savage and brutal man. They captured the skulls of even their neighbors to place them in the world pillars.
The Scottish are Scythians too, and that happened more recently, when they moved over the Irish made them marry their women to own all of Scotland, and with visible effect
Carl's got this "yes indeed" personality I noticed
It's in the Bible, for those that can humble themselves.
Something similiar to what you said about the Urartu can be said about ther Macedonians. I believe the reason they became some of the best fighters in the Hellenic world and ended up produsing figures such as Alexander the Great is because they had to act as the bulwark against barbarism, protecting the rest of the Greeks from the Thracians and Illyrians
Sargon the First. Time to gird your loins.
Most evil empire that ever existed, the mongols would cower and even Timur would weep at the sight of the grim glory of Assyria.
Mongols killed everyone even innocent farmers. Assyrians didn't kill the people that didn't fight against them but in some cases deported instead. So instead of being a propaganda parrot, tell us in what way are Assyrians more evil than Mongols? Or even more evil than modern empires?
Two people judging an empire to serve some special interest. Assyrian Empire kings punishing those countries within their empire boundaries who refuse to pay Texas is evil but those modern civilizations who carpeted bombing countries and threw nuclear bomb on a country is not evil. Reference about what I just said is in the book THE MIGHT THAT WAS ASSYRIA by H. W. F. Saggs.
That is what I thought. Ironic that Uk and Americans calling Assyrians evil when they have killed more people than anyone.
Very interesting, thank you
I think the same point of view may be said of Life itself. If a specific group of people does not defend its exitance, no one will, and that group will be dominated by those who are more aggressive or conniving. Europeans must relearn that value, our "leadership" does not care for us.
Europeans and all civilizations did this, but Western Europeans succeeded in this
Those rules don't just apply to prison.
The war in Ukraine right now is basically a prison conflict between the U.S and Russia.
The bronze age settlements on top of hills on the llynn peninsula also used the bonfire communication system. I was told.
Look at the region from which they came from.
W Assyrian, absolute Giga Chads
When I'm told there is only one choice, I ask Qui bono
Lets judge the antics of an ancient civilization by todays standards.
I’ll thank those steppe people for my lactose tolerance.
You mean worshiping the dragon and the inverted cross
They were of their time no more or less evil than whoever else ruled at the time
no, thats *really* not true.
that's like saying the mafia were just like everyone else, or isis is only a product of their time.
it's not only stupid and wrong, but also dismissive of what is actually happening, and the real factors at play.
@@marvalice3455 they had the first empire. They had to do what they had to do to maintain order and cohesiveness without benefit of communications or anything else but reputation. There’s a reason why fear is still the #1 tactic used by governments and organizations. It works better than much else. The old kings couldn’t have others even think of crossing or betraying them. Loyalty had to be maintained by any means. So made examples.
@@oyonan yeah, there is a reason.
Because of the damage vice does to one's intellect. Indulgence in vice makes you an idiot. And those in power have far more access to far more vice than you can even imagine
@@oyonan On the other hand that kind of loyalty never lasts longer until someone comes on the scene who can kick your ass. That's how a handful of Conquistadors could bring down the Aztecs. They ruled by fear and were intensely hated, so the moment the instrument of their doom arrived they all bailed ship and starting to help the Conquistadors. Now take the Romans and their system of rule was through assimilation. And it was so successful there were people who considered themselves Roman a millennium after the fall of Rome itself. Rule through fear is the easiest form of empire building, and the one with the least amount of long term success.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 That was a fairly new Civilization comparatively, look at the brutality of the Republican Rome compared to late the Christianized Empire. Romulus killed his own brother in the Roman mythos... at the other side of the continent, when Christianity was spreading in Europe, Confusious was writing about morals. The morals of ancient Civilizations just isn't that soft, it was brutal. The newer softer philosophies of ethics just hadn't been invented. The Ancient peoples admired strength, period.
You think Carl would like to play the chaos dwarf
SON OF THE GOD ASHUR HERE. STILL BREATHIN
Nebuchadnezzar II: Speak, brother, your head is beautiful
What is the name of the thumbnail art?
I did not eviscerate my enemies so I cancelled and fired
Gotta get me some Conan novels after this..great stuff.
Funnily enough the land of Nod mentioned in the Bible which is where Cain went to, is the Steppes. The Steppes is also where the Denisovan culture was, which enslaved other ethnic groups and was the first to start developing technology
Denisovan ? Aren't those another human species that lived in east asia ?
AY UP LOTUS EATERS
9:35 "They don't define themselves outside of religion"
Well, you would be right Carl, if the word "religion" was defined in the ancient word.
The word "religion" was ahead of their time and the time of the Torah (try to find in the OG Torah script the word "דת" which is the word for religion).
Heck, the Japanese never had a word for "religion" and for their own "native religion" called "Shinto"
It was simply apart of the life.
However, Christianity & Islam, unlike Judaism & Assyrian's culture, are first and foremost a religion, i.e. a 2nd alt identity for one's values and principles.
Not something natively built-in from the culture of the ethnic group.
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The drama from Netflix make the grey cells work and ask the question. Stone Age Mesopotamia, were they responsible for pushing the blacks out of Egypt?
The ancestors of the Amazigh have been in North Africa since shortly after the last glacial maximum. I don’t know why you’d assume that ancient Egypt, being both in North Africa and directly adjacent to West Asia, would have had a complexion that was ethnically disparate from those regions.
The only blacks in Egypt were the nubians and they were far from the Pyramids. Cleopatra was Greek which meant she wasn't black. Try to educate yourself and know propaganda when you see it
@@TheSicarius92 Brawndo has a point with the Amazigh. But we know Carthage wasn't ruled by blacks either, the were said to be related to Troy. So the East had spread quite a way along the coast.
I think the black narrative supporters have blocked my reply to Brawndo. They only support PC disinformation and call everything else racist.
The world we are currently in reminds me of the fall of the Assyrian empire.
The book of Nahum is a prophetic oracle that describes the fall of Nineveh, the capital of Assyria. The prophet Nahum wrote it approximately 663-612 B.C. just before the fall of Nineveh in 612 B.C. The book describes how an attacker advances against Nineveh and how the Lord will restore the splendor of Jacob like the splendor of Israel. It also describes how Nineveh summons her picked troops, yet they stumble on their way and how the river gates are thrown open and the palace collapses. It is decreed that Nineveh be exiled and carried away. Her female slaves moan like doves and beat on their breasts.
But God commanded the Pharaoh of Egypt to hang the first. When Solomon died, he commanded him to take control of Solomon's land, destroy the temple, and make a large number of Jews slaves.
Assyrians were not a savage culture at heart - that is just a face they could present amongst many. They have MANY other faces, they were like the Romans - yes they did have a savage military culture but that was a feature of every other civilisation as well. It was certainly not a unique feature of any of the Akkadian settlements and cultures.
I would have said that philosophy and scientific process development were the unique attributes of the Assyrians. Though not much has been found of them (maybe not that much remains after 5000-10000 years), but what we do know of them from their literature is that the Assyrians were a great culture as well as a powerful militarised nation.
Where do you think Sargon get his name from? King Sargon of Akkad who is attributed with helping develop codified law similar to what the Christians created later in the West. That is not what you get from savage people, it's what you get from generations of thinkers.
haters the eviledt is behind ya
and use their skulls as cups to drink their blood.
who were the people that eat other people Sargon mentions?
Steppe people in general from what I understood.
*so based
Psychoticly sadistic
It's the god AHH SURE. that's how it's said
They behaved very similar to the warlords of that area today. Almost like there's a genetic component or something...... Nah couldn't be that😅
Probably not. Geography, power vacuums, and culture seems to play a much larger role in Middle Eastern politics. There isn’t a whole lot that makes Middle Eastern DNA distinctive from European or North African DNA.
@@seto_kaiba_There is something special about Western Europe, which is controlling the world and dividing Eastern Europe
Why were they so evil because you're doing what woke ideologies do and judge them with modern eyes with no acceptance of history.
Yes, I think the term, cruel, to describe these empires is probably better. They didn't do what they did to be a bad guy, it served a purpose. The cruelty of their punishments maintained order in a chaotic world.
@Berserker but even cruel is a matter of perspective. According to some, not allowing a boy to cut off his penis because he believes he is a girl is cruel
@@paddywop918 In any literal definition of the word, surgically altering a child to suffer chronic pain their whole life and a permanent open wound is actual cruelty.
I feel like I'm going crazy with the current state of the world. The greatest evil imaginable just 4-5 years ago was FGM. Basically surgically altering young females to appease a particular fetish in nasty places in the world.
Now its state-sponsored in the west.
@Berserker well we've allowed lust, sloth, greed, and child sacrifice to be state sponsored. Just shows that we have a tendency to repeat history.
Come on, the Scythians seem alright. Smoked mad weed and drank ephedra tea. Not all steppe peoples!!
They worship the dragon and the inverted cross
I think asher is yahweys wife.
Were the Assyrian part of the pre judiac tradition?
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Sorry but there is zero logic to your 'necessary cruelty' prison analogy. When you rule with fear you end up surrounded by frenemies who are then glad to watch you fall. Or even, they help bring about your fall. Another example would be the Spanish conquistadors being helped by surrounding tributaries of the Aztecs, they helped the Spanish invaders because they strongly disliked the Aztecs, for that very reason of their cruel abuses of power.
And in prison it's very much the same, you can try ruling with fear but you'll just end up having your head being used as a literal football, as happened to a 'big alpha dog gang boss' recently in Ecuador. They played actual footie with his detached noggin. Whereas if you are kind and helpful, like Andy DuFresne in The Shawshank Redemption, then people appreciate you and maybe even reciprocally help you out here and there. Even if you are a wimpy dweeb, you'll be mostly fine, judging from that film anyway. Just need to watch out for the g-lawdz. So, in conclusion then, the Assyrian kings were twats because they simply just WERE twats.
I think the fate of Caesar at the hands of the senators he spared shows that ain't no guarantee (though I will grant it probably didn't help that he often seemed to know the wives of a lot of those senators better than the senators themselves).
I don't know if I'd agree with those who treated the Assyrians as "normal" for their time, but there is something to be said for the fact that most kings saw it as their job to kill their enemies, then the people who acted stupid or made trouble, and thus maintain the status quo with them on top. In return for obeying, people got to live lives that were relatively stable compared to hunter-gatherer living or the lives of mountain tribes or desert nomads.
Didn't andy still get booty blasted?
Beau, there exists no such thing as "the urartu people". That's something you just made up. It would be like saying "the byzantium people" or "the gaul people" or "the britannia people" etc.
The so called "urartu people" were by all means the ancectors of Armenians and most likely Armenians themselves, even more so than Gauls are ancestors of the French. The Gauls adopted the identity of their Frankish invaders. No information about "the urartu" adopting the identity of any mythical Armenian invaders. The achaemenid Persians even recognized them as the same people in their trilingual inscriptions. Names such as Urartu, Armina and Harminuya were considered synonimous.
That being said. I appreciate that you presented the iron-age Armenian kingdom as a capable advesary of Assyria. Not as some bumfuck backwards tribal country, like a certain other mountainous country that's featured a lot in the news these days. I found that the portrayal of Armenia (or lack there of) in your xenophon video wasn't as fair.
No, at the very least it is certain there was a linguistic identity there before the Armenian language and in the spirit of modern classfication based on language and ethnicity as a unit, they will be classified separately unless one can show how the linguistic transition occured without a change in identity.
You awlad alqahba only know what the enemy wrote about the Assyrians, in reality they were an empire that built on high culture and judged fairly between different peoples.
Assyria failed w/ the onset of iron age empires
it was the first iron age empire tho.