Marley Universal Dry Verge Fixing System Review
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- Marley Eternit's roof verge unit is said to be simple and fast to install while offering the stepped appearance of a traditional mortar bedded verge - Roger puts these claims to the test.
Marley Eternit Universal Dry Verge is designed to be a strong, weather tight and mortar free verge solution that can be used for the majority of roof tiles within all three main interlocking types: large standard, medium format (15 x 9″) and large format with a thin leading edge, regardless of manufacturer, as well as Marley Eternit’s Lincoln and Maxima clay pantiles.
Designed as a secure method of finishing the verge detail, the Marley Eternit Universal Dry Verge Fixing System is compliant to the requirements of BS 5534 as a means of mechanically fixing verge tiles.
Features of the Marley Eternit Universal Dry Verge Fixing System include:
01. Bendable hinge accommodates all profiles
02. Unique rail system allows for different tile sizes and profiles
03. Filler piece prevents ingress of birds and insects
04. Unique starter bracket to give easiest and most flexible verge fixing
05. Fixing hole cluster creates increased compatibility
06. Multiple, unique drainage channels prevent staining from water run of
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I use these verges very often and they have made a big improvement in there system over the last few years, they used to be garbage but much better now. Although the fixing kit at the bottom is v v flimsy and the little mettle clip pops out of the socket very easily so I prefer to drive a 100 mm screw with a cap on to fix first verge. Also mention when battening up at the top make sure your nail heads are covered by your end cap as on this video the left hand side one wasnt👍
Great as usual Roger, please make more videos as they are very informative.
Thanks Richard, we are trying hard to get more stuff out there but it is time consuming.
Damn! You were literally on my door step!!! Great video !!
Where is your doorstep? We are up there a lot, mostly at Keylite in Swadlingcote.
Keep up the good work, Roger!
I use these all the time over the old way but for the first cap I drive a dry ridge screw with the rubber seal in about 100mm from the front and also to fix the ridge cap just a better fixing than a nail
Thank you 🙏
Great stuff, ROGER...you are one talented fellow!!!
Thanks Gary
No a talented roofer can bed with cement which will last for years. Stop using this ugly shit
Bisby to the rescue again! I thought 'I'll just replace these rotten bits of fascia and soffit' - of course, first thing I find when I get up on the scaffolding is that the mortar at the verge is rubbish and loose. I knew dry verge systems like this existed, now I know everything else about them I need to know. Now to try to source some on a Saturday afternoon...
Alot easier than being in the pissing down rain and halfway up to heaven eh Roger? Nice vid. You get any footage of a dry ridge system?
I suppose times have changed along with regulations, and I'm all for it, it is for the better on most occasions. However me being old skool love the look of a well pointed verge! Nice demo.
I agree with you and I would go for a mortar bed with smaller tiles and slates. I reckon with a bit of SBR in the mix they hold down well.
No regs have changed, cement is still accepable, its the fixings regs which have changed.
I fit guttering and I'm always been called out to 'guttering leaks' on houses with a dry verge system.
The wind drives the rain water under the verge and it streams out the bottom missing the gutter.
I normally have to fit a 90 angle and silicone the gap up.
NHBC interfering and creating new problems.
Yes. I agree with you. The edging stops behind the gutter so any water that gets under slate runs down and rots timber. The edge should have an overhanging lip the same as the slate si water goes into gutter. I would safely say that majority of houses using trim have rotten timbers but wont be seen for ten to fifteen years. Im talking about all types especially valley trim.
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got this on my new build , no soffit just straight onto render and all you get when its rains is every window cill tap tap tap with water , drives you nuts at night .
I desperately need need this system
Does a dry Verge comply with fire regulation if you don't have fancier boards
One tile is damaged on mine. How do I change it and where do I buy one or two tiles? Thanks
Can these be used with Marley Lincoln pan tiles?
Any idea what type of clip is used at the start?
Looks nice and neat.
I was up our loft today getting the Christmas tree down and noticed a damp patch on the chipboard floor. Turns out the wind is forcing rain through the tile vent. Do we have to have these things, it's a modern slate type tile vent. They look shite from outside anyway and if these things are letting rain on through the vent I consider them a waste of time.
I have never liked those flat vents. I had some and took them out for that very reason. The loft is still dry.
Will it work on Centurion Concrete Roof Tiles?
Good wee video bought them for my garage build only to find it never came with the fixing kit no bother I thought onto internet to 2 of the big online suppliers (their first on Google's search list). Two different prices by some margin £14 & £8.44 so went for the cheaper get to checkout to discover postage was £75 shocking I thought it was a mistake contacted company no not a mistake comes direct from Marley and they set the postage, outrageous how can they justify such postage I could have hired a taxi to go and pick them up cheaper, to say I'm outraged would be an understatement. By the way the other company wanted £90 postage.
Of course the preliminary step is to set out the roof tile rows so that if you are tiling from one verge to another, i.e. with a straight up-and-over roof, you don't need to cut the end tiles to fit - I've seen many jobs where so called roofers have had to cut the opposite verge end tiles and of course then they are difficult to secure and look wrong. As you lay from right to left of course this only affects the left hand verge. On this video, a right hand verge, the interlock channels are on the underside and don't show. The advantage with this Dry fit system is that with Marley tiles, who don't make a specific left hand verge tile, it hides the ugly interlock channels otherwise visible on the upper face left hand edge
Thanks for the video but you should use batten end clips when nailing into the end of battens
This is acceptable as an alternative method and Marley have tested it.
Do they have to go under each tile as my tiles are cemented in all way along
Best way to do it is pull the cement and verge cloak out, then cut the battens back 3 rafters and add new ones into place so you know you have a solid fixing point🙂
@@brad15020 or you could instead of cutting the battens back buy some lath extensions 👍
@@danielm361 never tried that, might have a look into it
I thought you had to put metal clips over the end of the batons to stop them splitting.
The clip is an option. There are several ways of doing it. I use graded battons and screws in the end grain.
What over lap do u use on 420x280 concrete tile?
it depends on the angle of the pitch, The manufacturers always give a headlap figure based on pitch. 50mm is common
when the rain is directed towards the protection from birds, the water will flow there and flow along the wall
Why you not recommending batten end fixings
I have no idea what you are saying.
I wouldn’t call the ridge cap elegant - i think they look cheap and nasty, they also discolour over time , its another skilled job taken away and replaced with “easy”
If you asked me if I would put this on my house the answer is no but on a modern house on an estate of similar properies the one that would look out of place would be the bedded verge.
Don't like it. My neighbour has got this and it looks like cheap plastic and has gone wavy after several summers + wind, etc. Nice neat mortar edge looks much better.
Good comment. Send us a picture of your neighbour's verge.
They are ugly looking and the water runs down the wall between the joints you can buy one piece verge system look good
Mate,,your talking a load of bollox, a bedded gable is far more capable of surviving strong winds than these shitty plastic gable fixing,,I have been a slater over 43 years and I know when a gable I’d bedded on properly from the start it will last as long as the roof without ever pointing,, one more thing, that tacky ridge cap should not be exposing the fixing nail,
The ridge cap was explained and all the evidence is that bedded verges are not as weather resistant as the dry verge. If you are the exception then good for you but most people bed ridges and verges on really strong sand and cement and it cracks as it will.
I have used SBR with great effect but not many people do that.
There's nothing wrong with sand cement if its done correctly with half soft and half sharp sand and cement. It will last longer than this plastic crap in my opinion. There's one thing shilling this dry verge but you shouldn't be saying cemented verge and undercloak isn't any good because it's simply not true.
Dry fix ridge is good but I don't like that cheap nasty plastic verge.
Alex
When I say it is no good, this is a simple fact. It has been tested extensively and it cracks after a few years which lets moisture creep in. You then get frost lifting the verge and in a high wind the verge will come off. I don't like the plastic either but it stays put in a hurricane. It may be that you can knock up a magic mix but nobody knows how good it is until it fails. This is the problem with the building industry....too many variables.
@@SkillBuilder I've been roofing for 25 years and I know for a fact that a cement verge lasts more than a few years! Maybe they last a few years if some bodgey builder does it in soft sand and doesn't know what he's doing.
I'm not the only roofer that disagrees with you, this topic has been discussed many times on master roofers and majority think that you're talking nonsense.
As far as your magic mix comment goes, roofers have been putting sharp sand in there muck for years.
I don't think they would survive a hurricane.@@SkillBuilder 😂That would be the least of your problems!
Do not like dry verge system. Wet verge looks far better. Too much platic in the world
Subjective of course but I’ve always hated wet verges. Thick band of mortar to me looks no better than a thick band of mastic.
Do yourself a favour , don’t ever work for this “ company “.
Appalling rubbish.