Laser (ILCA) S-turn technique when sailing downwind

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
  • This simulation was inspired by Riley Schutt's doctoral dissertation "UNSTEADY AERODYNAMICS OF SAILING MANEUVERS AND KINETIC TECHNIQUES" at Cornell University. Shutt and his team equipped a Laser with an array of camera's & sensors to record all the motions and sail shape changes of the boat while sailing. In addition to the S-turn downwind sailing technique, he looked at leech flicking upwind and roll tacking.
    In our first simulation, we look at the S-turns. Quite complex, with simultaneous heading changes (S-turns), rolling of the boat (heel), sheeting & twisting of the sail and the sailor's motions. We also added a Windex to the mast top to record the apparent wind changes (inset). The variation of the apparent wind angle during one S-turn cycle is up to 90 degrees.
    The rock&roll increases the driving force of the sail quite dramatically, up to 75%. The increase appears to be sensitive to the timing of the mainsheet adjustments, and of course, the amount of roll.
    (c) WB-Sails 2022
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 30

  • @mjuliofranco
    @mjuliofranco 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome!! Brilliant model! Thanks for sharing,

  • @d_sparrow
    @d_sparrow 2 роки тому +2

    This is amazing! Thanks a lot for sharing!!

  • @ajohncant
    @ajohncant Рік тому +1

    Awesome simulation and really interesting results!
    Really interesting to know that you can get so much extra power out of these S-turns. They definitely gain you a few places near the back of the UK ILCA nationals.
    Got to add this dissertation to the reading list. My understanding was that these turns helped you surf the waves, and keep your speed up, while not ploughing forward into the next wave until you see a gap. However, it never made sense why it was faster than surfing diagonally down the waves for several boat lengths in alternate directions (which wasn't faster than someone sailing in a straight line when I tried it)

  • @user-cq4mv1zp2x
    @user-cq4mv1zp2x 4 місяці тому

    These are awesome, cam you do more simply fascinating

  • @UnkleSi
    @UnkleSi Рік тому +1

    Fantastic!

  • @user-vf3zm1tx3h
    @user-vf3zm1tx3h 2 місяці тому

    Awesome!
    Thank you a lot, we learned a lot from it!

  • @martinyable
    @martinyable Рік тому

    Wow. Thank you !

  • @casatv8916
    @casatv8916 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome! You should make one on snipes sailing downwind, with the pole and the flying jib and no spinnaker...

  • @timstorey8551
    @timstorey8551 Рік тому +1

    It would be interesting to see the results of this study at different wind speeds. I imagine that the differences in downwind angles to sail an asymmetric spinnaker boat downwind in light vs heavy wind would be relevant to how to sail a laser downwind in various wind speeds also.

  • @bug9999
    @bug9999 2 роки тому +1

    thanks a lot

  • @bug9999
    @bug9999 2 роки тому +1

    thanks bro~~

  • @ross.venner
    @ross.venner 7 місяців тому

    Interesting, I shall attempt to apply this in my lowrider Hawkmoth. The scows have us beat in the lightest of light airs because they can reduce their wetted surface so dramatically by healing.

  • @Alexandra-qw3hp
    @Alexandra-qw3hp 2 роки тому +6

    Super interesting. What do you think is the impact of the frequency? Does it also help to do the S turn, trimming and rolling more slowly? (That way you don't risk to get a penalty.)

  • @captainsirjackchucklebutty6147
    @captainsirjackchucklebutty6147 2 роки тому +1

    Ask Sir Ben ! He would never tell you all this. Top secret ! xxxxx

  • @sankdom4598
    @sankdom4598 Рік тому +3

    Should I pull up my center board for the s turn? I'd assume so right but wouldn't that make it a little harder to turn accurately

  • @isaacislaughter
    @isaacislaughter 11 місяців тому

    International laser class association, " formerly known as laser" ?🤨
    Super interesting at any rate..cheers

  • @JamesFosterSailing
    @JamesFosterSailing 8 місяців тому

    What is the equivalent underwater part of the problem; the increase in driving force isn't the full story as you are generating more drag from turning, but there are also rolling benefits to the underwater side too.

    • @WBSAILS1
      @WBSAILS1  8 місяців тому +1

      Good question - there's not necessarily more drag from the turning, as you steer by heeling, following the turn with the rudder. Heel means less wet area, so could be even beneficial. You are right, there could be benefits from rolling through the underwater fins, too, although the centreboard would be lifted. Maybe someday I will do the underwater sim as well.

  • @mikemalloy1681
    @mikemalloy1681 Рік тому +1

    how does that square with Rule 42, for ILCA Lasers?

    • @keyrockcdn
      @keyrockcdn Рік тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/ixxuoTn8hew/v-deo.html this might answer your question number 4

  • @TheDigger76
    @TheDigger76 2 роки тому +5

    Is this even ok with rule 42?

    • @WBSAILS1
      @WBSAILS1  2 роки тому +11

      Talking to umpires, yes. You are allowed to steer the boat through heeling: Heel to windward to bear away, and to leeward to head up. So the S-turns technique should be OK, while sailing in straight line and just rocking the boat is not. S-turns could be something for Finn masters, for whom free pumping is too physical.

    • @keyrockcdn
      @keyrockcdn Рік тому +1

      @keyrockcdn
      0 seconds ago
      ua-cam.com/video/ixxuoTn8hew/v-deo.html this might answer your question number 4

  • @weekendwarriorsvideos
    @weekendwarriorsvideos 2 роки тому

    Huikeeta!

  • @trackie1957
    @trackie1957 2 роки тому +1

    Great information, though I would have preferred actual human voices narrating. I muted and used captions instead.

  • @viesturssimsons1175
    @viesturssimsons1175 2 роки тому +2

    You will probably get a penalty for this, at least with bad judges definitely

  • @user-mq9dn2hn2v
    @user-mq9dn2hn2v 9 місяців тому

    Windex lolz

  • @ILCALaserSailor
    @ILCALaserSailor 2 роки тому +2

    This is great thank you for sharing! #ilcalasersailor @ilcalasersailor

  • @cohen4679
    @cohen4679 Рік тому

    "promosm" 😚