Unboxed, Tested, Reviewed - Grizzly Table Saw G0899
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2022
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A Grizzly Tools review of their Model G0899 10 inch Table Saw, with unbiased, unsponsored commentary about the assembly, quality and first usage of the tool.
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Thank you for this video! I too had trouble aligning my extension wings and it really bothered me as to how I left them. After watching this video, I went back and ground a flat spot on all of my washers, one at a time, and was able to get my table nearly perfect! I feel a lot better about my saw, thanks to you!
Sir Schmitt, Much appreciated! I have as much fun creating the video and offering those little insights as I do making projects in the woodshop. After figuring out that problem and completing the assembly, the saw has been awesome. Cutting a bunch of 4/4 Oak stock right now for a bedroom set and no trouble blasting through rip, cross and miter cuts. For a 120V motor, this thing is a beast. Thanks very much for watching!
That's exactly what I was thinking. Grind a bit off each washer. No huge deal, but yeah, the castings should be made so that doesn't need to be accomplished. It's pretty standard on any table saw extension wing to have to shim them with tape or something so they are co-planar with the table top. I see a lot of people complaining about that on various saw assembly videos. But, that's part of the assembly process. And they should quit whining about it.
Great review video. Thank you for that !
Thanks for tuning in, Mike! Hey, saw your Jeep theme too, very nice. My son in law works as an engineer for those guys so we appreciate the Jeep love!
I bought the same saw about 2 months ago. I have been very pleased with it too. I must have had slightly different parts to attach the wings, as when the bolts were loose, the wings would sag below the main table. After the wings had sagged below, they actually were able to be brought into alignment simply by tightening the attachment bolts. I did however had to run a tap theough the holes on the main table, as the threads were quite rough, and didn't want to accept the bolts. All in all, I am quite pleased with the saw.
Looks like a fellow Michigander! I've heard similar comments on the Lumberjocks blog site about unrefined parts and pieces during assembly, but everyone seems pleased with this brand of saw after getting past the build headaches. I'm using the crap out of mine with no issues. Thanks for tuning into our little channel!
Thanks for this video. I am considering purchasing one of these also and I think I will now.
Thanks to you too, Jeff! Just finishing up another video using this saw a ton. It is a beast for a 110V motor. If your shop can support the 230V configuration that comes with this saw, other woodworkers say that's even better. Otherwise the 110V setup that comes standard works really well for me.
great video, so far you're the only review video I've seen on this saw. Thanks
Thanks man... This saw is dual voltage but I'm limited to 120V in the shop. It's still a beast.
@@TheFamilyWoodworker I've been using my dads old craftsman table saw, some one I grew up with, the thing is over 25 years old but for what it is, still works great, just zero dust collection and cranking it to 45 degrees is a pain. Whenever I upgrade a tool I figure go big or go home. So I really want this one for the 240 capacity as well as the dual dust collection. I just hate spending money. it'll be over a 2k purchase.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry That was my mindset after laying out $600 for the Delta contractor saw that only lasted 4 years. I didn't want to spend more money for new and better, but what a difference on design, accuracy and power. Hard to let heirloom tools go.. I get that but a guy's gotta cut.
I just bought this saw today. I had a a Dewalt table saw built into a custom 2x4 construction table I made and it was good for a little while but you can only go so far with that setup.
Can’t wait till it arrives!
Thanks for watching our channel, Joseph! I think you'll like this saw and the stability you get with the heavier design. It gets used in almost every video I shoot.
The miter square is a copy of the old style Delta miter square. Nice because each stop and be tuned separately
I've been using it the past couple days, and I don't mind the manual setting now. I check the angles every time anyway, so I over reacted a bit. Cutting a bunch of wood for an art project now and so far, really happy with this purchase. Thanks for watching our little channel!
I’m looking to get back into wood working and thinking on buying a table saw your review is greatly appreciated a lot good info thank you.
Thanks, man! It's been a great tool for me in my shop. Not sponsored, just my honest feedback.
If you stack all the washers together and welcome to a bolt, put them in the vice and then grind the edge on one side then all the washers will lock to the flat edge of the top without turning or spinning.
That is another great idea... I've heard from other buyers that they have the same issue with the washers. Once you know what is happening, it's an easy fix...
Just grind a flat on the washer
Not sure why this was not the solution suggested on the video
As a machinist I have to call BS on the table extensions being off by .002 being a problem with precision cutting wood. You have more than .002 in blade deflection. Give me a break.
As a carpenter, I call no one cares what a machinist thinks! It would cut small bevels and a good carpenter most certainly would notice!
Nah, I have to agree. .002 is just chasing technical perfection. The idea of a "good carpenter " even perceiving .002 is just absurd and not worth even mentioning.
That will matter. I am a finish carpenter, and something like that will definitely cause problems pretty often. It will definitely have to be fixed.
I have a Grizzly bandsaw and jointer. Like you, I have found them to be well made but sometimes have fitment issues that requiring some finessing. But once assembled and aligned, they seem to last forever which I think is what they strive for over perhaps ease of use.
Thanks Ed! I liked some other options too, but felt like Grizzly was the right pick especially jumping from a $600 table saw that was junk to over $1,000 for its replacement. So far this thing is a beast and cuts really well. Thanks for watching our little channel!
thanks for the review. I think I'm going to pick this up over the Laguna because the Laguna's fence does not lock in the back allowing you to push it off by a few thousandths.
FYI, I would highly recommend upgrading to CMT saw blades. I know you mentioned it was hard to cut 2x4s but with my Ridgid job site saw I can cut 2x4s with no issue. I've been running hickory through it as well. the hickory did trip the circuit breaker using a combination blade but the rip blade is cutting through it like butter.
Hi Dylan... sorry for the delay. The Grizzley also has the back side of the fence riding on the rail rather than locking down, but the front lock seems to hold the fence firm even when pushing against it. I still am happy with the purchase... it is a beast!
That is great that you got it fixed. I can imagine the sinking feeling you got when you saw that… haha! I have one of these coming today, so hopefully mine will fit flush 🤞
Hey Max! Great news. If the washers are too big, at least you know a short trip to the hardware store will fix that issue. No need to pull your hair out like I did!
Thanks, Michigander here too. I’m moving and looking to get a new saw. Trying to decide between saw stop something like this or a simple contractor saw.
Hi back! I love the whole concept and extra safety measure with SawStop but the money? If you're really concerned about your hands working safely near a properly set blade, fence and blade guard, then it's the right choice. Otherwise... you have many great options. Loving the Griz so far, and no, they are not a sponsor. Ping me back on your final choice!
I purchased mine about a month ago and they seem to have changed the size of the washers. I do want to hook it up to 220 volts but I am not in a hurry. I find the quality of the saw is just as good as the Delta and many of the others out there. Some people mention SawStop and Shop Fox and many others. What many don't realize is that Grizzly owns SawStop, South Bend, Shop Fox and MANY others. They have purchased a multitude of companies in the last few years and most of the products are now manufactured in Tiawan. I really do like the products and the support Grizzly will provide if you call them.
Didn't know that about SawStop and the others, but that brand was never an option for me in terms of cost. Still happy with my baseline Model 899 even running it at 120 V. To your point, 220V would be better if you have the option. Compared to my old Delta contractor saw that died prematurely, I'm digging this tool. It is a beast.
@@TheFamilyWoodworker Grizzly doesn’t own SS the company that owns Festool bought them. Now does that company also own Grizzly and the others mentioned I do not know.
Hey there! First off, great review! The time you took to explain the table extension issue is extremely valuable, as I am sure it will help a lot of folks out if they run across the same issue. I am currently looking into purchasing this saw for myself. I work out of a small basement shop and have had my eye on this unit for a little while now as well. The sale being ran makes it quite an impressive upgrade for the price-point. A few quick questions for you: Have you noticed any fence drift on the back side of the saw while using it? - I have read some reviews on forums stating they have had this issue. Also, have you compared performance wired for 115volt vs 230volt? - Which wiring are you running the unit on currently?
Thanks for your time and again, thanks for the review. Very informative! I've hit that subscribe button! 😁
Hi Logan, thanks for watching! No drift on the fence, but I adjusted the Allen screws to square and snug the plastic glides against the t-square rail. It has held true for me even with heavy stock. I am only wired for 115V/20 Amps so have not compared that against 230 V, though electricians might tell you that does not affect the horsepower rating. 230 V will draw fewer amps on each hot lead and will generate less heat. Most will tell you to use 230V if your shop has it available... Best... TFW
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I think the Grizzly table saw base would've been beneficial. Overall a great review on this model!
Yup, saw the rolling base option on their website after my install, but it works pretty well being stationary in middle of my shop (on my quickie wood base).
@TheFamilyWoodworker right, I don't know how tall the base is but may have helped bring up the height to or past your work bench.
Great video sir, i received my saw the other day and for the life of me i can't seem to get the blade guard with the vac hose to set straight, the wood catches on the back side of the knife! Blade is straight 90°. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions on how to fix. Thanks.
Hey @gtguice Thanks for watching our video! I had a little difficulty mounting the blade guard myself, making sure the riving knife seated squarely in the slot. You can't reach down to tighten the wing nut on my model with the guard in place, so I had to play with the "snugness" of the mounting slot so I could still get it to slide correctly and firmly in place. Slightly off center in the slot, and your knife will not be aligned with the blade. (I feel your pain). If you do get it seated straight up in the slot and your knife is still off center with the blade, the knife might be bent.... I would try the mounting process again with the regular riving knife only, playing with the wing nut tightness until you can slide in the knife and still have it seat properly, then try inserting the blade guard assembly... I don't use the blade guard a lot unless I'm cutting wider stock or panels. Great for dust collection though.
I know you just got the saw but have you had any experience with hardwoods yet? Like you my old contractor saw is underpowered. Has trouble just ripping 2x4’s sometimes. I’m looking to do more work with white oak, walnut and cherry and was curious if you’ve found the 2hp motor sufficient for cutting 4/4 or 6/4 hardwoods?
Mr E. Thanks for watching! Yes, have ripped a couple pieces of 8/4 Wenge, and it did much better than my old Delta contractor saw on power. Seems to be OK for the intermittent shop use at my house and am limited by 120 v service in the shop. 2hp was as big as I could go. If you're a commercial user, banging on the saw 5 days a week maybe go bigger, but really happy with this saw so far. Will be creating an oak headboard and 2 side tables soon so will have an update in a couple months...
Thank you for the reply. I'm just a home hobbiest with a garage shop. The old Craftsman "3hp (max developed) " tablesaw is getting a little long in the tooth!
any updates on how this saw has been working for you?
I'm not using it every day but I could. It has been that reliable. Just finished cutting up 40+ board feet of White Ash into butcher block strips for a desktop, ripping them with a 60 tooth saw blade for a super clean, ready for glue, cut. It's more stress than you want on a motor, using a trim blade for a rip on 6/4 thick stock, but the saw keeps plowing through. Wish I was sponsored to say stuff like this, but nope. It's doesn't have Sawstop features but I couldn't afford that anyway. Still dig this saw.
I love how people just grab a drill bit and start reaming out holes for no reason it's gonna cause problems in the future with alignment issues you're dealing with very heavy components I think the problem was I'm not 100% sure and I could be wrong if you just flip the fastening assembly around there's clearance for the washers . instead of running the bolt head through the tables into the Table extension you run them through the table extension into the main table I could be wrong but that's the way mine worked .when I set it up and I do believe the instruct State that but maybe I have a revised unit .it looks like you purchase yours well after mine. I myself will immediately go for a hole reamer immediately only to regret it 3 steps later in the instruction.
Thanks for the comments, Chris. First, you had to be there to see all the video not shown and hours I spent trying to figure out why the wings didn't line up especially when using the delivered hardware packages. Couldn't use the bolts the other way because the main table was pre-threaded to receive the bolts from the wing. In the end, you're right, I didn't need to ream the holes had I noticed the washer problem first. Now with about 60 hours on the saw, there is no deflection between the table pieces indicating they are not slipping. I don't expect to see any further issues as the tool has been great. Best to you on your Superbowl pick tonight!
Interesting they must have changed that set up to a direct boat through Minecraft threads on the holes were pretty precise but by the looks of it my washers were also smaller than yours
And spite the hassle that grizzly is a real machine compared to the deltas and the rigid contractors saws they're so cheaply made I've been using grizzly table saws and shop tools for 27 years happy with them reasonably priced and well made in my opinion not a fan boy but certainly get my money's worth out of them
Great video, appreciate the review. I’m sure you know, but just in case it’s no wonder your poor Delta Job saw was overheating and tripping. You’re using a crosscut blade to rip long grain #2 pine. Do your grizz a favor and stick a 24 tooth in there for rip cuts. 24= RIP, 60= crosscut, 80= miter saw, more or less.
Hi Adam! Yup, like you, I change blades all the time depending on the cutting needs... For the video, I wanted to show the difference in power between the motors using the worst case blade scenario. On the Delta under continuous load, it would eventually shut down. (Not much of a contractor saw) On the Grizzly under this load even with a finishing blade, no problem. Anyway... thanks for tuning in. Happy ripping!
Looks like it has been a year since you made this video so I wonder, are you still satisfied with your purchase? I am consodering a PCS for my shop. Harvey and Sawstop are at the top but they are both so expensive! If this Grizzly is somewhat comparable in quality, then I would consider going that route to save some money.
Yessir... didn't have a 220 option in my shop, but the 120v setup on this motor is still a beast. Really happy with the cabinet stability, control accuracy and cutting power...it's been great...and not sponsored to say that
@TheFamilyWoodworker Greatly appreciate the response. I am going to take a hard look at the Grizzly.
Ciao si trovano queste macchine in Europa ?
Ciao mio amico lontano! Amiamo l'Italia. Abbiamo visitato Roma, Venezia e soggiornato a Tremezzo. Cibo fantastico e persone meravigliose. Mi dispiace dirlo, ma Grizzly non è venduto in Europa, ma sono sicuro che ci sono altre opzioni disponibili.
@@TheFamilyWoodworker 😄 ok....conosco tremezzo.. io vivo a Sestri levante in mezzo tra le 5 terre e Portofino in Liguria ....chissà se un giorno capiti da queste parti chiama sarò lieto di offrirti un drink😜
@@nikenike2530 Bellissimo al nord, vicino alle Alpi. Spero di tornarci un giorno!
@@TheFamilyWoodworker bé le Alpi non sono così vicine ma diciamo che siamo al mare. Un 🖖
I like your video, however I do find your "not so great" comments kind of out of scope of a machine review, other than washers being too large to level the tables. Everything else is kind of on you. Your shop is in your basement, thats on you, Low tech miter gauge (did you buy it for the miter gauge) or even a 5k machine for the miter gauge?, Table height, that's kind of subjective, and actually the machines height is kind of standard for any cabinet style saw, you built your outfeed table higher than standard, thats not the machines problem. 2 people for assembly, is that really a not so great for a pseudo cabinet saw that weighs 400 pounds? i kind of feel like you were stretching to find some negatives to state. Again, great video, and I like it, and the bolting of the cast iron wings is a huge benefit of information for potential buyers of this saw.
As always, I truly appreciate the feedback. It does help me make better videos. As objectivity is concerned, you're correct. The review is purely subjective based on my experience with the purchase and it is from a homeowner's point of view. For example I'm 6 foot 5 inches tall (196cm) and bending down to a 34 inch table height kills my back over a long day. My old Delta came to a taller standard height that matched the outfeed table so the shorter Grizzly height was an unexpected surprise. In any case, the saw has been working wonderfully. Long repetitive use even on hardwoods has not been an issue. Best - TFW
This saw is literally straight off of Alibaba. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
But this isn’t Grizzly’s saw.
It’s everybody’s.
Yup... I found that the Harvey has exactly the same features and specs, with a different paint job... I also found that to be true for other tools like my video on spindle sanders and scroll saws. One manufacturer and a lot of re-branding... Still, this thing is a beast and I'm liking it so far.
I have the same saw. Never had issues with the wings. You guys are chasing dimensions you haven't developed the standards for yet. Learn how to use the tools before expecting things that you don't know how to do yet.