Unfortunately now days we are supposed to put them in the recovery position (at least in Australia). I believe the argument is if they are choking it helps which is fair but then you risk spinal damage. I prefer this method and just monitoring ventilation then last resort recovery position.
I go to a beach with a ton of rocks and rips. There was a spinal injury once and the lifeguards told us to hold their head still until they could get the spinal board to the water.
I was messing about with my mate at the top of the hill, and I may have pushed him down backwards. Now he has an issue with his spine, but nothing too serious I think. Now I know what to do if anything like this happens again.
What if the injured person is in a dangerous area and you have to move him/her away alone, how do you do that? How do you safely move the injured person and still keep his/her head stable?
Carefully - and preferably with help! Try not to twist their neck or spine. Presumably only move them if they're in danger where they are or you have to move them (e.g. out of a vehicle) to give them air
If the area is determined to be dangerous even for the primary responder then it’s better to either make it non-dangerous or try ur best to maintain their spine and head posture. As an analogy of when to leave, if they fall in a snake pit, then leave
Best thing you can do is try to keep the in the same position. If you have anything solid, flat, and reliable you could use as a stretcher I'd advise doing so. Try to get a sheet under them without moving them too much to use to slide them onto the 'strecher' without them changing position. DO NOT LET THEM SIT UP/ TURN OVER. This is what I was told to do/did after I fell 50ft and broke 3 vertibrae and I'm still here today so I can confirm this works haha.
In the video, the patient is in a neutral body position (flat, straight and facing upwards). But what if their head was slightly tilted to the side? Would you keep it tilted to the side or re allign?
@@Midgar88 victims with a suspected spinal injury should actually never be put in the recovery position unless they vomit & recovery position is necessary to clear the vomit. As a general rule, victims with a suspected spinal injury should be immobilized in the position found (i.e., do not move their head to neutral and do your best to hold them still in whatever position they were originally in) unless it is necessary to move them to perform lifesaving actions like CPR.
DO NOT MOVE THEM. Moving them can cause permanent injury or death so unless it's an immediate necessity due to emergency (for example, in a car wreck and a vehicle is risking explosion or is about to) then do so. Otherwise do not move them, jostle them, or any of that. If they become unresponsive and require CPR, that takes priority and at that point chest compressions/breaths are important.
If someone goes into cardiac arrest, and you know they've injured their neck and spine... Would you need someone to try and keep their head still or do a jaw thrust manoeuvre whilst giving them rescue breaths and chest compressions? Or would you just discard trying to maintain their c-spine and focus on CPR only?
In my first aid course they taught “life over limb”. So if someone has a spinal injury but requires cpr, you would do the cpr to save them even with the possibility of paralysis.
Arthur Pieters not certified for ocean rescue nor am i an instructor but i know that you would try to get them into shallow water where you can maneuver easier. You would place your arms in a way that supports their sternum and spine. If placed correctly your hands should also support the back of the head and the jaw and you have to go under water and rotate the victim as you do this
If you're on your own it's basically impossible. If you've got multiple people there you do whatever you can do immobilise the neck. Either way getting them out of the water is a priority as their neck injury is of no consequence if they drown!
vice grip in deep water to move the casualty to the shallow and a head splint in shallow to secure, then in the shallow another lifeguard will bring a spinal board etc, and use that (following spinal board guidance). When you do the vice grip to head splint transfer, check their breathing once in a head splint. Breathing takes precedence ALWAYS. - Lifeguard :)
Does landing on your neck count when you land on your neck on the trampoline that’s what I did and I got the wind knocked out of me but I did not have to go to the hospital or anything but it still hurts a little
@@JERA_-uh3kz Oh im sorry to hear that:(. Well we were trying to go for an xray but because of the things going on they considered it as a minor injury🤦♀️. He didnt have an xray after all, but he rested a lot. Make sure she doesnt try to do too much because that can cause a lot more pain. My dad needed a few weeks to be able to walk properly again. What height did she fall off from? Do you think she broke anything?
@@lilifoldi3140 appreciate the response , he fell down around 2-3 feet, can i ask what did you do to help relieve the pain or lessen the pain, my mom also don't want to get checked because of what is happening rn. How many days or weeks did your dad have before felling better?
@@JERA_-uh3kz its okay it isnt my first language either. It was just over a month maybe until he could properly walk. He took quite a lot of pain relievers and rested for a lot of time. I hope the best for your mom!
Just learned this just in case
Unfortunately now days we are supposed to put them in the recovery position (at least in Australia). I believe the argument is if they are choking it helps which is fair but then you risk spinal damage. I prefer this method and just monitoring ventilation then last resort recovery position.
I go to a beach with a ton of rocks and rips. There was a spinal injury once and the lifeguards told us to hold their head still until they could get the spinal board to the water.
Same
Simple, efficient and easy to hear and understand.
Thank you for you first aid videos..
I was messing about with my mate at the top of the hill, and I may have pushed him down backwards. Now he has an issue with his spine, but nothing too serious I think. Now I know what to do if anything like this happens again.
What if the casualty's head is not straight like in this video, if their head fell to the left or right? What if the causality is on their stomach?
Excellent video thank very much
Please demonstrate how to turn facedown to face up
thanks you very much for your Leaning video
What if the injured person is in a dangerous area and you have to move him/her away alone, how do you do that? How do you safely move the injured person and still keep his/her head stable?
kington lam even I need this answer.
Carefully - and preferably with help! Try not to twist their neck or spine. Presumably only move them if they're in danger where they are or you have to move them (e.g. out of a vehicle) to give them air
If the area is determined to be dangerous even for the primary responder then it’s better to either make it non-dangerous or try ur best to maintain their spine and head posture. As an analogy of when to leave, if they fall in a snake pit, then leave
Best thing you can do is try to keep the in the same position. If you have anything solid, flat, and reliable you could use as a stretcher I'd advise doing so. Try to get a sheet under them without moving them too much to use to slide them onto the 'strecher' without them changing position. DO NOT LET THEM SIT UP/ TURN OVER. This is what I was told to do/did after I fell 50ft and broke 3 vertibrae and I'm still here today so I can confirm this works haha.
Excelente material !
Im still watch this video on 2022, please update again 👍
I have questions if the person has spinal injury but he unconscious how can make CPR
In the video, the patient is in a neutral body position (flat, straight and facing upwards). But what if their head was slightly tilted to the side? Would you keep it tilted to the side or re allign?
well, that's when you need to be creative. A flat plane of wood or an entwined material like say, a sling will surely do the trick!
I think you'd leave them as they are until paramedics arrive.
you place in neutral. If unconscious they are supposed to be placed in the recovery position.
@@Midgar88 victims with a suspected spinal injury should actually never be put in the recovery position unless they vomit & recovery position is necessary to clear the vomit. As a general rule, victims with a suspected spinal injury should be immobilized in the position found (i.e., do not move their head to neutral and do your best to hold them still in whatever position they were originally in) unless it is necessary to move them to perform lifesaving actions like CPR.
@@kataall cpr still needed in spinal injury?? Immobilisation is a must right??? So how come and how to do cpr in that kind of situation
If person is conscious in case of spinal injury then what will i do?? then given recovery postion or use log roll method??
DO NOT MOVE THEM. Moving them can cause permanent injury or death so unless it's an immediate necessity due to emergency (for example, in a car wreck and a vehicle is risking explosion or is about to) then do so. Otherwise do not move them, jostle them, or any of that. If they become unresponsive and require CPR, that takes priority and at that point chest compressions/breaths are important.
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If someone goes into cardiac arrest, and you know they've injured their neck and spine... Would you need someone to try and keep their head still or do a jaw thrust manoeuvre whilst giving them rescue breaths and chest compressions? Or would you just discard trying to maintain their c-spine and focus on CPR only?
In my first aid course they taught “life over limb”. So if someone has a spinal injury but requires cpr, you would do the cpr to save them even with the possibility of paralysis.
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Watched video it's helpful good to know. Thanks for sharing.
How do i get I.e. a surfer out of the water without risk of making the injury worse?
Arthur Pieters not certified for ocean rescue nor am i an instructor but i know that you would try to get them into shallow water where you can maneuver easier. You would place your arms in a way that supports their sternum and spine. If placed correctly your hands should also support the back of the head and the jaw and you have to go under water and rotate the victim as you do this
If you're on your own it's basically impossible. If you've got multiple people there you do whatever you can do immobilise the neck.
Either way getting them out of the water is a priority as their neck injury is of no consequence if they drown!
vice grip in deep water to move the casualty to the shallow and a head splint in shallow to secure, then in the shallow another lifeguard will bring a spinal board etc, and use that (following spinal board guidance). When you do the vice grip to head splint transfer, check their breathing once in a head splint. Breathing takes precedence ALWAYS. - Lifeguard :)
what happens if the person is hit on their back hard and falls on their tummy? do we keep them facing the ground?
Yeah, don't move them unless they're not breathing or in immediate danger.
Does landing on your neck count when you land on your neck on the trampoline that’s what I did and I got the wind knocked out of me but I did not have to go to the hospital or anything but it still hurts a little
My dad fell off the ladder yesterday on his back on a sharp tile curb thing. He cant walk and he doesnt want to be checked
Can i have a update what did you do? My mom fell down and he can't also walk😭
@@JERA_-uh3kz Oh im sorry to hear that:(. Well we were trying to go for an xray but because of the things going on they considered it as a minor injury🤦♀️. He didnt have an xray after all, but he rested a lot. Make sure she doesnt try to do too much because that can cause a lot more pain. My dad needed a few weeks to be able to walk properly again. What height did she fall off from? Do you think she broke anything?
@@lilifoldi3140 appreciate the response , he fell down around 2-3 feet, can i ask what did you do to help relieve the pain or lessen the pain, my mom also don't want to get checked because of what is happening rn. How many days or weeks did your dad have before felling better?
@@lilifoldi3140btw I'm sorry for the bad grammar, english is not my first language
@@JERA_-uh3kz its okay it isnt my first language either. It was just over a month maybe until he could properly walk. He took quite a lot of pain relievers and rested for a lot of time. I hope the best for your mom!
what will you do if the patient who has a spinal injury bacome breathless or pulseless.. can you do cpr despite of the injury he/she has..
The need for oxygen and circulation takes precedence. Do CPR.
yes you can still honey, but first the folded blankets at their side must be in place
Breathing takes priority ALWAYS
Please i have a spinal cord injury I need a help
Very good video
What if he is in a vehicle accident and suspect internal blessing 🤔
Excellent
Why do we place towels/blankets on the side with on deck spinals
Brittany Ledger no their spine doesnt get further damaged from moving positions
It supports and reminds the casualty to remain still in hopes of no furthering of the possible injury/s.
I learnt lots:)
Our class watches these video during health and well-being their very informal
My neck is broken
You okay there😂
@@lilifoldi3140crying🤣🤣🤣
Those blankets on the side will do jack squat
How about falling off a couch and neck bending weird
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Doctors don't respond to injuries
Who is these weirdos in male dress. So funny