ADO A20 vs Himo Z20 - Comparison Review of the 20" folding electric bikes
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- I tested both 20" folding electric bikes ADO A20 and Himo Z20 to find out what they have in common and what is different.
🚲 *ADO A20+:
► Ado Website: adoebike.com/?ref=7P8XIaKMutGd9Y
► Geekbuying: bit.ly/36H338V
🚲 *Himo Z20:
► Himo Website: www.himobikes.com/products/hi...
► Geekbuying: bit.ly/3BcAHAj
🚲 Fiido D11: (mentioned as reference)
► Fiido Store: bit.ly/3CKKjpj
ADO A20+
In the meantime ADO released ADO A20+ which is the same bike, but with the new controller, reflectors and rear light. So they made the package shown in the video standard.
There are 2 versions EU Version (which can't be unlocked!) and International Version where you can unlock the speed limit).
Here you can find ADO A20+ adoebike.com/?ref=7P8XIaKMutGd9Y
ℹ️ Review on my blog: bit.ly/2QRxFk0
here you can find all settings available in the menu
ans the spec comparison with Fiido D11, Fiido D21 and Fiido D4s
Camera used Insta360 ONE R: www.insta360.com/sal/one_r?in...
Installed Rearlight: X Lite 100: bit.ly/3pXxnpg
New ADO A20 Controller: bit.ly/3E1welo
INDEX
0:00 Intro of ADO A20 and Himo Z20
0:45 ADO A20 vs HIMO Z20 - Specs
1:35 Folding Mechanism, Frame & Dimensions
5:18 Display, Menu & Settings
7:12 How to unlock speed of ADO A20
8:38 Unlock speed of HIMO Z20
9:33 Battery & Charging
11:10 Design & Feature Comparison
14:31 HIMO Z20 Driving Modes & Differences
17:02 ADO A20 Driving Modes & Comparison
20:06 Issues & Problems with HIMO Z20 and ADO A20
21:08 Review Conclusion
22:00 Other Competitors (Fiido D11, Fiido D21, Fiido D4s)
ADO A20 Specs:
max. Speed: 35 km/h (21 mph)
Range (assisting): 80 km (50 mi)
Weight: 21,2 kg (46 lbs)
Dimension (unfolded):
155 x 53 x 110 cm
Dimension (folded):
90 x 43 x 70 cm
Carrying Capacity (Payload): 100 kg (220 lbs)
Battery: 10 Ah
Motor Power: 350W rear wheel drive
Tires: 20" air tube
Suspension: yes
Brake front: mechanical (disc)
Brake rear: mechanical (disc)
Transmission: 7-speed (Shimano)
Xiaomi Himo Z20 Specs:
max. Speed: 25 km/h (15 mph)
Range (assisting): 80 km (50 mi)
Weight: 21,9 kg (48 lbs)
Dimension (unfolded):
147 × 61 × 109,5 cm
Dimension (folded):
86 × 45 × 74 cm
Carrying Capacity (Payload): 100 kg (220 lbs)
Battery: 10 Ah
Motor Power: 250W rear wheel drive
Tires: 20" air tube
Suspension: no
Brake front: mechanical (disc)
Brake rear: mechanical (disc)
Transmission: 6-speed (Shimano)
Display: yes
My channel is about folding electric bikes such as Xiaomi Himo, ADO, Fiido and SAMEBIKE
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Finally a review with actual weight measurements. Just what I was looking for, you're the best!
Yes, thought about this in detail since the description is wrong on so many websites
EXCELLENT review.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks for taking the time to make it 👍🏼
Thanks for your feedback, I'm glad the video was helpful
Thank you for this wonderful and thorough review! I think this is the most comprehensive and informative review I've seen on any bike.
Thank you very much
Agreed. This is how you review a bike. No ego and look how cool
I am nonsense. Instead masses of factual detail that l can pick through and find the answers to the questions l have. Brilliant 👍
Thank you for the detailed review, you covered everything that I was curious about, really great video 🙂
Thank you very much for your feedback, I'm glad the video was helpful
Wonderful detail and comparison. Immensely helpful and addressed all of my questions.
Thanks for your feedback, I'm glad the video was helpful
great review! it's very detailed and clear!
Thank you!
Excellent review. Thank you
Excellent review. Very helpful and informative. Good work. 👍
Thank you very much for your feedback!
ADO A20 Winner
You’re making great reviews and comparison videos. Please carry on. We are still in search for an e-bike
Thanks for the feedback, 2 videos are in the making (Fiido D11 and Engwe C20)
@@elProducente Great! Looking forward for an upload as we been looking at D11 and X which was unfortunately recalled.
Awesome review, very clear and informative, I subscribed 👍👍👍
Thanks for your feedback and sub!
Great detailed review, really helpful, thanks!
Thank you!
Thank you for the really quality videos.
I've been looking for a comparison video like this for quite some time. I also spend a lot of time asking people's experiences, but no one can compare in detail like you.
Do you make videos about G-Force F14 or G-Force G14?
Thank you very much for your feedback! No, didn't take a look at G-Force so far
Great video, clear and detailed comparison. Thank you!
Just finished the video and at the end you asked for what you could do better, so I'd like to give some suggestions; when you list down important specifications like weight, plus and minus points etc, personally I like it when its visually shown as text in video's. It makes it super clear imo. Regardless video was great thanks again :)
Thank you very much for your feedback!
I try to do more text info next time
Excellent review. Thanks 👍🏼
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent comparative review.
Thank you
Excellent comparison!
Excellent and complete review.
Thank you very much
Very good presentation - thank you Sir, extremely helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Very good comparison! Thankyou!❤
Thank you very much for your feedback
It's such a shame the himo is so restricted. It's one of the best looking foldables out there
True, it's really looking great
Ado is absolute junk
Get a Fiido 😎
Excellent review
Thank you!
Yes i agree that has to be one of the best comparison revies on both bikes, like you i prefer the look of the himo z20, and the tyre pump built into the seat post is a neat idea, but for me the adp a 20 has more going for it, which is why i ordered one today .
Thank you very much for your feedback!
Really good video. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Great review
Thank you!
Nice complete guide
Thank you very much for your feedback!
Very nice review! Is Air 20 OK for me 105kg 187 cm? Will it help a bit on the 5degrees hills?
Great review and comparison. Do you know if I am able to use full electric mode from stop on the new ADO A20 XE? And can this be unlocked. UK purchase.
welcome back
Xcellent video, Thank You.
Glad it was helpful!
Gracias por la excelente demostración de las bondades de las bicicletas.
Can you do review on samebike 20lvxd30-ii compare to ado a20 ??
Unfortunately I do not have samebike, let’s see if I can get one. Next one will finally be Fiido D11.
Great informative video, thank you. Would you be able to review a Moma Bikes E20? I'm on the fence between that and the ADO as the Moma has a 16ah battery. Cheers!
Let me check, any other items you like on Moma besides the battery?
Thank you very much for your review. I'm considering to purchase one of the e-bike and feels like ADO A20 is more suitable than Z20. It's greatly helpful!
Glad I could help with my video
Hi there, could you please be so kind and measure the Outer diameter and the lenght of the seatpost for the ado a20 bike?
Nice!
Отличный обзор! спасибо за проделанную работу!
Thanks for the great video. Is the linked A20+ version on geekbuying the EU version? How can I distinguish it from the international one? Is the controller of the EU version really locked?
Hi, that's really hard to tell as they often changed the description, I would check the official website when they are not more expensive
Great video! Do you know if the A20+ version is heavier?
Hi, as far as I know they are the same weight
Great review! I’m stuck between buying the ADO A16 or the A20 both seem very similar in terms of specs. What do you think the biggest difference between them is?
I think the biggest factor would be storage space. A16 is more compact due to the smaller wheels.
I prefer the larger 20" wheels from A20 as I think they provide a more comfortable ride.
So what type did you choose as I have this dilemma as well.
Can this bike ride with out charging battery? Thanks
One of the best reviews of the bikes! Can the throttle on the ADO A20 work at the same time as pedal assist? Do you always have to change setting to choose whether you want throttle or pedal assist?
Thanks for your feedback! For my version with this controller it is not possible to use both.
However I use the throttle and pedal as well, which has a pretty similar effect.
@@elProducente By the way, the one i received, only has 16 P modes, 17-20 are missing, including cruise control... such a pitty!
Do you have the A20 or A20+?
ADO A20+ is the model with new controller, reflectors and rear light. (Basically the A20 with the new controller package I showed in the video)
There will be 2 versions: EU (which can't be unlocked) and International (unlock is possible)
@@elProducente I checked, and my model has reflectors on wheels and can be unlocked. Do you know if i can upgrade to a 48v battery? controller says 36v/48v on it so i'm considering it.
Many parts are not produced for specific bikes and so have several options, like the display. But I guess you also need to check/change controller, battery and motor to support 48V. I’m not sure which parts need to be changed.
I have been thinking about buying an Ado A20+...Does anyone know if it has walk assist, as I live at top of two short ish flight of stairs. They are narrow so using throttle mite be scary. Also how is the hub motor at freewheeling downhill and cycling without battery.
How can you remove the rear wheel? I cannot see the quick connector in Ado's motor wire
how can i identify that my order is the international version of ado a20+ whith speed unlock
the battery for the ado a20/+/20f/xe is only 149,50 and free shipping atm !
really helpful and detailed review. By the way, how much distance can the batteries hold before they drain out?
can anyone tell me the size of the battery for ado20
410mm or 430mm?
thank you
I know it is labelled ipx5 but can it be rode in heavy rain? My hometown is blessed with heavy rains and monsoon season, so this is a real voncern
A20(36V/ 10,4Ah) and A16(36V/7.4Ah)
Which is the max level of Ah that i could modify the battery at both bikes in order to extend range? 15Ah ? 19Ah?
Hello, did you have problem with front suspension? In my bike front tire in rough road hits the fender.
I didn’t notice this issue with my bike, but the fender needs to be well adjusted @TechTronic9000 mentioned it on his video review.
Awesome review, so you think ADO is better than the fiidos too?
Well, I think Fiido D11 is great when you drive in the city as it is lighter and more compact.
ADO A20 is an allrounder and faste, that's a plus.
@@elProducente wow so ADO is faster than the D11?
Liked and subscribed too
Thank you very much!
The 2024 Z20 has been upgraded since this video was made.
Please help me. I can't make a decision. I don't know which ebike is better. Laotie X Fiido D4s pro or ADO A 20? Which one seems more durable? I like both design, but I like Fiido better. About 150 Euro the difference. I have read many articles based on which you may think that the ADO A20 has a more convenient, faster, maybe has a more advanced pedal sensor and it has a better battery pack because it can be charged 800x instead of 500(Fiido). Is it true? What do you think? What is your experience?
I haven't tested Fiido D4s, mainly because of the fixed, none-removable battery. I thought it is inconvenient to always carry the bike to a power socket. I prefer the option to just take the battery for charging.
Besides that I realy like the suspension on ADO A20, very comforatable to the other bikes without, which I tested (Himo Z20 or Fiido D11)
@@elProducente Thank you very much for your answer. I bought a Fiido D4s more a month ago. So far, I am satisfied with it.
If I ordered the A20 bike recently (today from Ali for example), do I need the new controller you listed separately or is that on the new bikes?
Not quite sure, I would wait if you got the updated version. It's also fine without the new controller, try it if the new options are necessary
@@elProducente I should have followed-up. The current A20 (in the Netherlands from France) has the upgraded controller, the cruise control works, rain guards (fenders) and even reflectors on the wheels. It also comes with a very cheap rear battery powered light, which broke the first day when it fell off. But that's okay. Very happy with it.
@@GaryInAmsterdam I was under the impression the updated model is called A20+
@@elProducente My order from Aliexpress described it as this: ADO A20 Electric Bike 20Inche Floding Electric Bicycle 36V10.4AH 7Speed Ebike Men Women City BIke 250W/350W Mountain Bike. Maybe this is last year's model, but I'm happy with it.
Hi I have a z20 Without a throttle is it possible to add a throttle to my bike if so what parts are needed,hope you can help
This is a version for markets where a throttle is not allowed. I‘m not sure if it’s just a matter of throttle or if the controller is different as well.
thx
Очень благодарен за обзор. В ADO A20 влюбился! 💛💛💙💙
Can you do a video on how to change the tyres in case of puncture?
Front is easy like on every bike, rear is more difficult as you need to unplug the motor to remove the tire
@@elProducente any special tools required? Planning to buy Z20 and use it as a touring bike
Does ado a20+ is the same?
hwy can i please ask u somethin is it safte to set my speed limit at 36 instead of 35 ? for some reason when i set it at 35kph i only get 34kph thanks
I’ve set it to 100
@@elProducente ah great thanks and have you had any problems with it at 100 ?
@@elProducente also great video you have a new sub 🤗
hello !
nice video
where can i bought the A20 at the best price ? the geekbuying coupon is expired
Finally I got a new Geekbuying Coupon: NNNEUADO20
I experienced great service from them.
@@elProducente this is so good to know as I’m looking to purchase the 16” bike from them!
hello, nice comparission and review.
i have a question, i saw on ado website the ado a20+ and im curious to know if this + means it has already the newer controller for the pedal assist.
furthermore on ther website there are 2 versions availlable, 1 for european market and 1 for international market.
on the europran version it states that it complies with eu regulations and has 250watts 25kmh max and it explains that all 3 modes are used for pedal assist only, with no power support from handle, o it has pedal assist 1, 2 and 3 where 3 has pedal assist till 25kmh max.
on the international it states unlockable to 350 watts and 35kmh and ha only 1 pedal assist and 2 powerassist with handlebar only.
then it explains that the eu version is called "pedal assist mode" and the international one is called "hybrid drive mode".
right below it explains how to switch this modes.
so im curious if someone knows if i can buy the eu version and be able to unlock and switch the 2 modes , so i can test both and see which one fits me most ?
I'm trying to find out more infos. I think the EU version locks it to pedal assist only and no option to unlock to stay within regulations.
Guess you can change the controller to get to an international version
@@elProducente hello, thank u very much for ur kind reply.
aslong its legal in eu countries im fine with pedal assist only.
im still torn between ado , fiido 11 and himo z20.
cant decide , they all so good :)
Maybe I can help since I have all 3 of them. What’s important to you? Where do you drive for which purpose and how far?
I got the confirmation from ADO
ADO A20+ is the model with new controller, reflectors and rear light. (Basically the A20 with the new controller package I showed in the video)
There will be 2 versions: EU (which can't be unlocked) and International (unlock is possible)
@@elProducente Very good review and very helpful to get the right bike for my mother! Thank you so much. May I just confirm with you: Am I allowed to to ride the international version within the EU if I do not unlock? Thx for your help
I would love to try 1 of these on the banks where I live but I already know, it would not make it up. Shame.
Are they water-resistant? We've got a lot of rain in the upper left corner of Europe 😭😂
I wouldn't use it in heavy rain but I don't have experience in rain yet
Hey man! Although your review is great, I would appreciate if you can add some info about replacing the batteries. Where can I find them and what's the cost? Thanks
Hi, thanks for the feedback. I didn’t go much into detail as I’m not sure if and when a replacement would be necessary. Basically they can be found in the same store:
bit.ly/3yu03tq
@@elProducente thanks man! I saw that the battery is not available currently on Banggood. Also if I remember correctly there were some issues regarding battery transport from China to Europe. I will do more research on the matter! Cheers!
When Ado is de restricted, can I peddle while using the throttle?
Thank y
Yes, you can always pedal when you use the throttle, the bike is not limiting the speed, so with pedal you can always go faster
sorry, we are now in 2023 and I am interested in both ADO, and Fiido offers for a foldable lightweight e-bike, if possible, with torque sensors and hydraulic brakes!
I am speaking about Fiido X, and ADO Air 20S! would be possible for you to comment this? Thank you!
Hi, I can't comment on these specific bikes, but I hope I can help with some general comments:
Type of bike:
I have a Fiido D11 which is similar - a great, lightweight bike for the city on paved roads. If the roads are rougher or when you are going on unpaved roads I would choose a different model like Himo Z20 or ADO A20.
Manufacturer:
Fiido and Himo have a great design. Although ADO impressed me with interesting little details on the bike and their quality - they improved their design recently.
As stated in the video I prefer ADO over Himo and also would prefer it over Fiido.
Hope that helps a bit.
what do you think of the SXT Velox max?
Looks good, but double the price
looks like one bot s6l
@@hasan_z yes, I figured out that it is a mass product that you can buy unbranded from Alibaba and just put your name on it. That's because there exist multiple bikes like that under a different names
Im 120kg. Will this bikes be ok with me on?
I hope this is muscle otherwise you have to lose weight
can i buy ADo A20 Lite for delivery ?
Yes, check out the ADO website, I think that’s the best source adoebike.com/?ref=7P8XIaKMutGd9Y
Big Thanks !
You're welcome, thanks for the feedback!
hey can you please tell me i have the ado a20 and my p06 setting was set to 25 from supplier is this wrong thank you i notice you have it at 20 thanks in advance 🤗
Hi, according to my info 25 isn't even an option for P06, as it is the wheel diameter an there are just even numbers.
For ADO A20 it should be 20
@@elProducente ow realy dats strange it was definetly set at 25 thanks for the help
@@elProducente i can go up 1" at a time
I'll also try again on my bike to see if it's 1" or 2" steps or if there is difference between controllers. Thanks for the info!
@@elProducente thank you highly aprecciate the help it was set at 25 been my wheel diameter i can keep going up in the p06 settings but it has 20" wheels i wouldnt want to damage something but every video i watch p06 is set at 20
Hi what's your heigt and weight?
Hi, I‘m 1.83cm and show the seat pole extension related to my size.
My weight is 90kg
@@elProducente cheers👍
Waitin for d11 vs ado comparison. Thanks for your work.
Just tell me how to use Himo z20 throttle control
There are some bikes for specific countries where the throttle is disabled, if that’s what you are looking for
@@elProducente yes I’m looking the way how to enable throttle controls in NSW Australia
So basically the best thing to do is buy both and swap all the good bits to the Z20 and fit the other parts to the A20 then sell it. You may loose a few quid but you end up with the better looking frame with the advantages of the A20.
Seems like an option, but a difficult one
A20 here in the Philppines is only 7.5Ah, wth, yet more expensive than Z20.
interesting that they have different int. versions. Maybe according to local laws
Wich one climb better hills?
What is the torque A20? And the torque Z20?
Too bad you didn't compare them on slopes to climb
A20 performs better. I tried but it was hard to show the result in the video.
@@elProducente very much better or just a little better?
You can time a distance on a road that climbs well and it would allow you to really realize which is better
THREE key questions:
1) Can unwanted intrusive pedal-assist be totally/permanently deactivated? Throttle-only power please!
2) Why is no rear luggage rack included?
3) Why is real range less than hslf the 80km claimed ?! Surely the manufacturers/sellers should be prosecuted for deception and making very exaggerated, false and misleading claims !
If a cake producer claims a pack contains 8 cakes but it only contains 4 cakes the cake producer would be prosecuted and fined for misleading consumers.
Paul G
I prefer Himo Z20
Looks better, I think A20 has the better features
himo product more stylish (look z16 desain masterpiece) but they lock speed make we anggry 😂
Yes, that's the concern with Himo, ADO is faster
WARNING. ADO 20+. Bought the ADO on the strength of this video
Bike arrived and immediately noticed a few things not right. The standard was secondhand rusty screws, back wheel has chips out of the paint in many places. The forks are very poor quality. The stantions are supposed to be ultra smooth but I found file marks, raised spots and a nick with a sharp edge
After relatively short time these will wear down the seals and cut like a file into the alloy lower part of the forks. Customer Services: you are dealing direct with the company in HK China. And after a month of promises of compensation we are no further forward.
You sound like Thomas from autogefuhl.
The ADO A20 is no longer like that in 2023, it no longer comes with the pre-installed turner throttle. If you order the international version, you will get a thumb throttle sent to you separately.
In the international version you also get a bigger motor 350w, which you can unlock. The EU version is 250w, and you can unlock it but the bike does not go faster - the motor is visibly smaller and lighter.
I was going to buy it, but not any more, the newer version comes with 'cross your city' logo on it. I'd say avoid it.
Thanks for the update. Too bad you can't update UA-cam videos, I might do a short on the updated features
your blog doesn't work anymore
You can unlock the z20 to 36km/h
With different hardware or only with software?
@@elProducente you can chech on youtube but if you cant find it. Just turn on your himo, hold the mode button for 10sec then there should be a big P on the screen you just press mode until you come to the Pd (password) and type 1919 and the you will just set tye speed limit to 41 from 25. And boom. If it doesnt show you proper speed just set the wheel size to 28 inches or 29inches.the wheel size is i think Hd
This is one of the fake videos as explained in mine. When you change max speed it does nothing. When you change tire size, there is just a higher speed shown. When you measure with GPS it stays the same.
@@elProducente no it acutaly goes like 27 instead of 25
comparing ebike with front suspension and with without it...lol
Comparing two 20“ folding e-bikes with similar size, weight, battery, performance and price. There are a few differences though.
I hardly do any comments but yours makes me laugh so I have to reply it.... anyways, These two bikes are in the same category and target buyer so it is a very good comparison.
Not legal
Depends on the country you want to ride the bike
Please note that both these bikes are illegal in EU unless registered as a moped . Hence cannot be used on bikeways.Must be used on roads with the moped insurance, driving licence and compliant motorbike crash helmet. These bikes are not pedelec EU compliant. Why? Has twist and go throttle and may be accelerated and maintained in motion without pedal assist. Be warned police across EU countries are now fining users without registration as moped as described. Fines can run in excess of 3000 Euros. Be warned.
They are available as EU version with pedal assist only
@@elProducente Gracias, y tiene el certificado de ser pedelec de la fabricante? Y si existe la opción de mantener la velocidad hasta 25kph sin asistencia no conforme a la ley ser pedelec en España. Y si no existe la certificado ser pedelec no conforme a la ley ser pedelec en España tampoco. Ojo la poli me ha explicado muy muy claramente.
It's very different within EU countries. It could be not defined as Pedalec. But in some EU countries a throttle is also allowed and the the e-bike is classified similar compared to an e-scooter, which also has a throttle.
@@elProducente Advice to anybody is check out as a matter of urgency in each EU country. An ebike shop in Valencia confirmed today Pedelec law in Spain. Bottom line if ebike has throttle and can maintain up to 25kph without pedal assist it is a moped-moto and requires registration. The shop and distributor is now dealing with only pedelec compliant product.
Much appreciate your comments and hope the chat is useful to ebike users at large.
You're here on every ebike review with all this. There's something wrong with you!
Ado is junk Don't go anywhere near it 😩
Get a Fiido 😎
I got a Fiido as well (D11) and experienced issues. You can read it on my blog
I've been riding this bike for about a month ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
Thanks for sharing your feedback!