@@Twortortle It's difficult, I've tried. He is on Cameo, but, in order to even be able to send the man a message, which he may or may not see, it costs $30; and that's not even asking for a voice commission, it would be asking him if he would be willing to undertake it in the first place.
Joshua Graham is such an incredible character. Love his story, his wisdom his brutality. There should be a movie about him called “Honest Hearts”, I think it would be cool
I was thinking the same thing, there are so many things you could do with a film like that. It would be awesome to see him fighting one of Caesars many Frumenttari sent to kill him.
or maybe a part of a fallout book/movie 100% dedicated to joshua called "tales of the burned man" also explaining why he's called the burned man and when he served in caesars army. or maybe like you said "honest hearts" being AFTER zion. Reminds me... does anyone know what happens to joshua after the dlc?
New Vegas' got so many characters that should have gotten a lot more spotlight, like, Graham, Ulysses, the dude that explored all the caves in Zion, the Father, can't remember the name, but they all got crazy backstories
Joshua Graham is the only character I've ever interacted with in a game or seen in a movie that made me think religion driven people can be good characters. Usually they're poorly written by religious people, or poorly written by non-believers. Joshua was written to be a good character, not a political mouthpiece. An absolutely incredible character, in an incredible DLC, in an incredible game, in an incredible franchise. Long live Fallout.
The other one I find fascinating is Matt Murdock/Daredevil. I'm not religious but when I completely understand faith through a video game or comic character I know the writers did a good job
Usually, the people who write religious people do so to attack their beliefs somehow, or make them look bad. See Far Cry trying to demonize Christians. I enjoyed the game, and especially the OST, but at its core, that was its core message.
@@willrockurworldppl ironically, I found Jesus through Joshua Graham. Never been much religious but hearing Daniel and Joshua talk about it. It got me curious.
Wow, man, that's epic! I had never given up fully on my faith, but I was acting pretty degenerate and didn't really care about my faith all that much. Joshua Graham opened my heart back to taking my faith seriously, which I eventually did and although I struggle with trying not to do some sins more than others, I am in a much better place than I was. And Joshua Graham is one of my favorite characters, and New Vegas one of my favorite games. It's amazing what God can use to bring us back to Him.
Joshua and Daniel are interesting for being two philosophies out of the same book. "Eye for an eye" and "Turn the other cheek". It was interesting to see that in this game these weren't parodies of faith or strawmen of faith. They were taken seriously and that's what made this the best expansion of any fallout game
Never played a Fallout, but PLEASE tell me Daniel is a legalist (just generally, like a follows the rules to the letter kinda guy). "Eye for an eye" was essentially part of the prescribed Judaic law (Old Testament), whereas "turn the other cheek," was an interpersonal trait given by Jesus in the New Testament. I would find it immensely amusing/fitting if these two were juxtaposed in such a way (not that this Joshua fellow is necessarily the cheek turning type, but he sounds like a guy who's trying his darndest to be something more).
@@asheblackflight1720 Daniel was the Turn the other cheek guy. Eye for an Eye and Turn the Other cheek are both true and biblical and righteous. Eye for an Eye refers to the governments treatment of injustice. Punishment to fit the crime. Turn the other cheek was about interpersonal relations.
@@asheblackflight1720 it’s been a while since I’ve played the expansion, but if memory serves me right, yes Daniel was a more “legalist” in terms of following the letter of law, as it were. There was an interesting dilemma between the two of them
It's the voice. It's just... perfect. Deep, rich, serious. He says these quotes in full faith of them, he isn't pretending, he fully means it and you feel it. Even when he greets you first in the cave, and he says "I pray for all good people who come to Zion", and later "God be with you", you FEEL that this isn't just an empty phrase for him. He is completely serious. And that is what makes him so likable (at least to me). That, even without knowing anything about you, he cares.
Even the opening line: "Hmm. It's been some time since I've visited... civilised places. I don't have fond memories of them. Too much love of money and ownership, not enough love of God and giving." So damn good
I think the reason why Joshua works so well is because he perfectly fits in the world he lives in, a man that has seen the worst of humanity, has felt the worst pain imaginable, has seen how death and suffering is normal in this world. And yet he chose to keep to his faith as a source of light in this very dark world, a light that is nearly out but he does not mind it, he is a man of light in a world that has been plunged darkness and that's why he stands out so much from any other character in the game
Everyone forgets that he was a legate and committed some of the worst atrocities in legion history. He was the devil. Nothing he does after will erase his past. He needs to belive God forgave him because he can't forgive himself.
@@austinmccon2759 depending on how you play that dlc you either help him realize God forgave him a long time ago and it's time he forgave himself and discard the "burning man" or help him steer right back into it. As a man of God myself I like to take the former approach because I find it a very poetic thing, how he discards the hate in him and finds peace at last.
@@austinmccon2759 No one forgets that he was legate, hell he's reminded of his past every second of his life because of his burn wounds and even after all he's done he feels like he still needs to do more. It's not that he can't forgive himself but that the crimes he's committed aren't so easily forgiven in his eyes but how knows that the lord is more forgiving than he and that gives him a light in the darkness.
@@radicalgremlin6440 Yeah i figured this out while meditating alot on myself see we never truly hate ourselves either its just the sin we hate just thought id throw that in your advice is still way better
"Weather there is a god or not his existence doesnt depend on what you believe or what i say" this is a good quote it reminds me of something similar my pastor told me
or have somone who genuinly struggles with the desicions people around them make, just have it be man vs human nature (or that character's struggle be man against man's nature).
Joshua just proves that God loves warriors even the ones who turn their back on his people. Joshua was broken physically by the legion his faith and the love anf faith of his people saved his life bringing him back to the light of God and the truth of where he is needed, God always takes back those who turn there back on him in his eternal love
Take the Book of David. Even after his fall. It's an excellent book to read, for the religious and areligious alike. It has many lessons to give. The bible is not merely a book of superstitions. It is catalogue of the many mistakes we have made as a species and what we have learned from it. We should not take it for granted.
I want more characters written like him. He is like an embodiment of Old Testament wrath and justice. Between Joshua Graham and Randall Clark’s Logs, I’d say Honest hearts had one of the most well written stories in the fallout franchise.
It still blows my mind that New Vegas has a better writing in Clark - a character who never actually shows in the game - than Bethesda has ever put into any of their characters.
He is old testament with new testament values. Remember that, for Jesus loves you and weeps for you when you sin against him. But fear not for he will always forgive you
This is one of the best of the Joshua Graham speech videos (not sure what you'd call them) imo. Gives a coherent message while still capturing the essence of the character, the other ones basically chop up his dialogue to fit a certain theme.
AI voice Ayo, I don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events. If anyone is interested, read on Brothers, what have we done. look at us. look at what we've become. This isn't right. we're wasting time going on about girls and sus drawings that don't give a f*ck about us. What is the point of lust? Why do we do this? This doesn't fix our problems, doesn't make the stress and pain go away. repent to God, friends. We must stay focused, brothers, on what really matters. I'm only 17, but I'm telling you, in the words of johnny cash, "sooner or later God will cut you down." you will lose almost everything important to you. please, for your sakes, repent and turn to Jesus. He is, in the words of Skillet, "better than drugs." He is also better than lust. love > lust. You'll find out that this is true. love may hurt, and same for lust, but lust will keep you chained down, eventually killing you mentally, spiritually, emotionally, and possibly physically. hell was never meant for us, my fellow youtube user. it was for the devil and his squad, and God gave us the Way out of there since we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. God knew we were wack, but He decided He was still come down and help us, despite our unfaithfulness. most relationships (like friendships, romantic relationships) aren't like this. Very few, but not a whole lot. religion (Christianity) is just a relationship with God along with loving others (see james 1:27) also, we have various types of evidence that backs up the Bible. Here's one example: Scientists have discovered that the earth "skipped" a day. The Bible explains how that happened. In the book of Joshua, Joshua asked the sun to stop so he and the Israelites could defeat their enemies. Then in 2 Kings, King Hezekiah learned he was dying, and pleaded to God to not let him die. God sent a prophet to king hezekiah who said hezekiah would live. Hezekiah wanted a sign, and that would be for the sun to defy the law of inertia and go back 10 degrees. NASA confirmed it and did the math (look it up for more info). We also found Noah’s Ark hanging out in turkey, along with anchor stones marked with crosses signifying that it’s a revered place, along with altars and many other things. Look it up, it’s good stuff. more evidence for the Bible concerning cosmology and divine revelation in job 26:7, proverbs 8:27, Isaiah 40:22 (read on) The idea that the earth was round can be dated back to 600 BC in Greece. It was more widely accepted around the 3rd century (300 BC-201 BC) Note: time was “labeled” differently back then. for example, year 3000, year 420, year 69, year 0, year 1, year 2… and so on. Job 26:7: “. . .He [God] hangs the earth on nothing” The book of Job was supposedly written at 2100 BC. Proverbs 8:27: “. . .when He drew a circle on the face of the deep. . .” Proverbs was possibly written between 970 and 686 BC Isaiah 40:22: “it is He who sits above the circles of the earth. . .” Isaiah was written between 739 and 680 BC. This one doesn’t pertain to cosmology, but it refers to divine revelation nonetheless. Isaiah 11:15 “The Lord will dry up the gulf of the Egyptian sea; with a scorching wind he will sweep his hand over the Euphrates River. He will break it up into seven streams so that anyone can cross over in sandals.” Revelation 16:12 “The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.” How did they know about this? You tell me, my fellow Zoomerz. The Holy Spirit exists. I was a slave to s3xual sin for 7-ish d@mn years. Finally at 16, God freed me. Also, look up John Gabbana's (boonk gang) testimony. Dude did a lot of wacky stuff. He's changed now. also, the soul exists. someone i know (i won't say who- privacy reasons) saw their soul leaving their body. like pulling off a band-aid, except it doesn't hurt. I was suicidal for 9-ish months, but then I read John 3:16, and poof- the big sad went away in one night. There are also non-Christian sources who have confirmed the existence and divinity of Jesus, some of which were hostile towards Christianity, such as: Thallus (52 AD), who said Jesus lived, was crucified, and confirmed the darkness and earthquake that followed Christ’s crucifixion; Tacitus (56-120 AD), who called the followers of Christ Christians, confirmed that Jesus was crucified under Pontus Pilate’s command Talmud (400-700 AD), confirmed that the disciples were martyred for their faith, and confirmed Jesus was executed the day before the Passover, and said Jesus had “magical” powers Pliny the Younger (61-113 AD), who said that the Christians thought Jesus was/is God in the Flesh (God the Son) Phlegon (80-140 AD), who said Jesus had the ability to predict the future, and confirmed that Jesus was crucified during Caesar’s reign, confirmed Jesus rose from the dead, and confirmed He showed His wounds to confirm He was crucified. Celcus (175 AD), who said Jesus was born of a virgin, said His father is a carpenter, and confirmed Jesus had miraculous powers (See cold-case Christianity for more details) Here’s the physical evidence of Jesus and His Resurrection: 1) No persecution would have started if He hadn’t come back (the disciples thought Jesus would never resurrect) 2) The Roman soldiers would have paid with their lives if they failed at their jobs 3) there was a 2-4 ton rock that 11-12 guys would have to move (they didn’t have any help. Everyone said “crucify Him”) major L to those opposed to Jesus 4) there was a Roman seal which was a metal pin that sealed the tomb stone 5) Stealing the Jesus’s body isn’t something the disciples would do (besides Judas. Although he hung himself after feeling remorse for betraying Jesus). 6) the disciples wouldn’t die for what they knew would be a lie. (The lie being Jesus never made the ultimate comeback) faith and reason, people hit me up to learn more about how science proves the Bible or just about God in general
The writers for new vegas are absolutely brilliant. I'm not sure if they are, but they certainly understand the roots of the faith and knew how to create a convincing character.
Going on a mission trip tomorrow and this message from one of my favorite characters ever, hit just right. I genuinely wish there were more great Christian characters in mainstream media. So many are watered-down, jaded, or religious fanatics/cult leaders. The good ones stand out, even if you don't share their denomination.
I imagine the Courier sitting in camp with Joshua coming up to talk to them as he sharpens a knife. As he goes on, he and the Courier wander the roads of the Mojave looking at the factions and people who live there. The Courier talks with Graham of their own faith and ideals in the factions or life, and he answers with understanding and support. He relives his fall into the Canyon, and how his love of God persevered through the fire. The Courier shares a similar rebirth where they were struck down, but the flame that they hold is a curious one. Both of these survivors carry on with skills of violence and knowledge, and have the power to reshape entire groups of people. Joshua holds love and justice, while the Courier holds whatever they choose. A burning vengeance for those who wronged them and maybe those who haven't? Or a duty or passion to form the world in their image, for better or for worse? In any case, they sit at the camp looking out on the people Joshua searches to repay and help. In the end, he bids you farewell for both of you still have work to do, and may the Lord be with you. I'm not really a religious person, only really holding onto values of goodwill, but Joshua is an awesome character and if framed right (like this video), he can prove to be a good friend to the Courier, reflecting on their ideals and actions and even how they both carry themselves after both their near-deaths. Now thank you for reading my little speech, and I wish you good luck.
Now, I don’t believe you need to be a believer in any type of religion to be a good person, but I believe that religions form to extoll certain values, and you can certainly pick and choose which values you wish to hold up. That’s fine, for everyone is different and they’re free to choose, and if they’re is any higher power that allowed life to bloom, I believe that it is our most defining features as sapient and sentient beings of having the choice to choose our own path. And I find that with great effort, it gives greater satisfaction in grasping for something that you strive towards and work towards, rather than something given. I may be butchering this quote, but I believe it went like this, “What’s more satisfying to see in a story, a villain that strives to change his ways with difficulty, or a hero that breezes his way through life because he is simply good?” Though some people do not like change, and that is understandable. The cost is always bloody, modern civilization is built upon the bones of those who died to make it happen. There is a reason why people (and indeed living beings in general) have an instinctive dislike of change; change is dangerous, even when the outcome of said change is an improvement. We are imperfect, and I believe that no being can be perfect in this world, and I find comfort within that fact, for the world itself is imperfect. A world is beautiful not because it is a canvas of only light colors, but because the striking disparity between light and dark craft wondrous paintings that show us the multicolored world. We strive and move forward to better ourselves, to change ourselves and the world to our perceived good. Everyone can learn from everyone else. We learn by talking to others, and we learn by observing others. Being human means living without finding answers to all the questions we seek. However, does that mean it would right to say that all our beliefs on this world are good? No, far from it. There is no good or bad judgement, all that is subjective. You could be helping a good person that is secretly a bad person, or hurt a bad person that turned out to be a good person. You wouldn’t know. Either way, people will form their own judgements whether you are good or bad depending on their side of the story. I’m realizing that I’m going too far in a tangent and in my opinion, an arrogant, lecturing tone, so I apologize if you see and construed it that way, so I’ll cut it short here.
I like the analysis, and honestly it’s a good embodiment of God and his wants for humans, as he himself is what gave us free will to follow him, or fulfill our lives in our own ways, be them moral or not, and Joshua can easily represent the God, and the Courier, by default of being ‘us’ is the free will to do as man will, I mean hell in Honest Hearts the fastest way to get out of Zion is murder Joshua, Daniel and the other Sorrows then dip, yet again man having the will to forsake god, or for him to help him and understand him, whether or not they truly care
THIS, as well as Skull Knight’s first conversation with Guts, are some of the best monologues I’ve heard. There’s so much weight behind Graham’s words that it’s almost real. A man of great talent, who lost his way, and is doing his best to amend for his mistakes. Truly an inspiration.
As someone who lapsed into quiet agnosticism years ago, Joshua Graham was still one of my absolute favorite characters in Fallout NV. I’ve known people who share in that unshakable faith IRL, and even if I no longer have the capacity for it, it’s comforting to know that there are those who still keep the faith.
I feel a similar way, don't count yourself out on never feeling that connection again. Some days are better than others and even the most faithful have moments of doubt.
It's my belief that those who do not assume to know who God is end up understanding what I guess you would call His true nature better. It's ridiculous to believe that if there is a force with the attributes of God that we simple creatures could give them a name or a face, and when we do it only serves to aid us and not them.
@@BakaPope we have an image of God with the Bible saying we were made in his image. Whether that's literal or means something else is up to the individual i spose.
@@BakaPope I find the premise of not knowing God being a better way to understand him to be unrealistic. I don't see any logic or evidence for that being the case besides having an open mind leading to more discoveries. We know God because he knows us and that's probably as far as most will get.
Im agnostic for the simple sense of I believe there is a higher power something we do not know but it is there , just religion itself is hypocritical they all are Christianity , Judaism, Islam they all contradict each other and what has that led to ? (War, hate, greed....) Yet they all claim to worship the same god . It has done nothing to help us only destroy us
I am not a man of God but there is logic in what he says and his Wisdom is certainly enlightening Joshua has to be the best character in the entire game
I would like more to be written like Joshua, rather than just a zealot, if you need to make them a zealot for thematic reasons or what have you, at least make them compelling or have some reason. But then you have Joshua who believes and (zealot or not) is a functional person.
@@bigshrimp6458 The thing is, it's entirely ok for science-based reasoning to admit that we simply don't know that. _Yet._ Theories are tested, studies are peer-reviewed, old methods are amended as new discoveries are made. Science admits and understands that human knowledge isn't a be-all, end-all. It is a process. Believers however, claim to have *absolute* knowledge of the nature if the universe. They make all manner of outlandish claims masked with demagoguery and sophistry with no valid evidence to back up ANY of it. Science you can study and verify. It is literal study and advancement. It looks at the verifiable facts and then considers what conclusions could be drawn from them. Faith is unverifiable by design. It is ignorance and regression. It has decided conclusions and tries to cherry-pick whatever mangled remains of facts it can to suit it's narrative while ignoring anything contradictory. How about you instead ask the faith-ridden for evidence of their claims, or about the inherent contradictions in their "moral" philisophies, and so on. _Food for thought._
I try to be a man of God. I don't think I do very well, I fall and struggle with pornography, and everytime I get a victory in my life, there are 10 defeats. But I have faith that God will use my life to accomplish great things, and that he won't give up on me. Still, I ask him everyday to not give up on me.
In my perspective, young it may be, the Father is not disappointed to those that fall, but to those that choose to stay down. The fact that you stand back up after your falls and failures is how I think he wished for our Faith to be, not one of never falling and being impervious to sin and desire but of being able to walk back into his embrace and teachings for when we are in those dark, weak moments that every single soul has and will continue to experience to their dying day.
As long as you don't give up on yourself, God will never give up on you. God put faith in you when he created you by giving you the ability of being in control over your own actions at every moment.
Fun fact. The voice actor is in Batman, The dark Knight. He's the cop who was left in the cell with the Joker, when the Joker says "do you want to know which of your friends were cowards?"
Obsidian put in SO much effort to craft a compelling anti-villain in Joshua, and for all their craft and art they failed utterly... ...what we have instead is a wonderfully sympathetic and charismatic warrior of faith (both martial and spiritual) and I couldn't be happier. They went prospecting for tin and struck straight-up *gold*.
@@MrMortull I definitely see him more as an antihero than a villain given that it's so easy to take his side, and I think that's what his writers had in mind when doing his dialogue, so I wouldn't really call it a failure.
Joshua lost his way trying to Survive the Blackfoot clan, survival shrouding the beliefs of his people to protect himself and the Followers of the Apocalypse who had tried to help the tribals, thereby losing his faith in god. The need to survive lead to training the Blackfoot to fight the other tribes. Defeating the other tribes lead to leading in Caesar’s name because they had been friends. The betrayal of Caesar throwing him into the Grand Canyon should’ve killed him. But it didn’t. Crawling back home to his people, he believed he would’ve been casted out for his crimes. Instead they forgave him and helped him. Rekindling his belief in God. But his time as the Legate of the Legion didn’t simply go away. It remained a part of him. Using the examples of god’s wrath to justify when he felt the same rage that had lead him to leading the Legion’s armies against the enemies of the New Canaanites. But he is still trying to be a better man than what he was. To truly redeem himself. The only way I really see him letting go of his past is to convince him to spare Salt-Upon-Wounds. Showing Retribution and Vengeance can be tempered with Mercy and Compassion. Giving him some peace.
The children of atom hate him because Joshua wasn't claiming a certain religion, he believed in the Creator,God, he believed that yeshua was crucified and died to pay for what horrible sin was to come
I like to think. Meeting Joshua changed something in the Courier. I always got the general sense that Six (for lack of a better name.) Was a force of nature waiting to be unleashed, but he had to get there first. Meet Joshua was that first step in awakening that sleeping beast. Bringing reckoning to Elijah was the next, uniting the big empty, then finally.. Ulysses. A journey to prepare Six. transform him. Into something more than "just another courier." All of it, to make the man into a conduit for power. Just like all the rest, like Caesar, or house, Joshua or Lanius, Kimball or Ulysses. To some a hero, to others a god, and some still a living nightmare. New Vegas is one of the best stories told in gaming hands down.
It is, and I think Courier Six kind of brilliantly fits in the lore, specifically because they're at the center of so many events. I've always felt like the protagonists are kind of like a representation of all the myths and legends and culture that makes up the Wasteland. Everybody has heard of this one monumental figure in one way or another. But thanks to the giant medieval game of telephone that these stories get spread through, we don't actually know what's true, what's exaggerated, or what they even actually did. One person heard they were a tall handsome man, the Chosen One of his tribe on the west coast. Another guy heard they were a Lone Survivor, on a quest in Boston to kill her husband's murderer and son's kidnapper. A traveling merchant from the Mojave stopped in a tavern in Utah and said they were a lonesome Courier, who saw horrors and miracles on his amazing travels. Who was the real figure behind all these stories? What incredible feats did they actually perform to become such a cultural influence? Who knows... must have been a wild ride, whatever it was.
Jesus *said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are those who did not see, and yet believed." John 20:29 *Jesus was talking to Thomas, who insisted on seeing Jesus' wounds after He was resurrected.
you should try warhammer, but jokes aside Clamavi De Profoundus (The profound Cry) does some great work with the music they write, compose or simply accompany and cover.
as an orthodox christian I was always curious what the Orthodox version of him would be like then again it won't matter, he's not a good christian, he is a great and the ideal man of faith.
As someone with blast based ptsd and lots of trauma, I feel the quote “I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me.” Edit: I finally got the quote tattooed on my arm, opposite side of my burns. I hope you all get as much from Joshua Graham’s words as I do.
I wish you all get the point that he’s talking about the fire of the Holy Spirit, and not some edgy “I have a fire inside me 😮”. God bless you all anyways! Hope you all recover from the physical burns.
I spent all of my elementary years in a Christian school and I always found it very wise that Joshua told the player that Gods existence doesnt depend on their religion or what anyone else says, because we dont know jack about where we truly came from. Great video
As a combat veteran, seeing the worse evil that man can do to one another…my faith has always been…let’s just say that I go back in forth with it. Joshua graham is one of the few ppl I feel like I connect with the most. I will try to keep my faith and I pray that whoever is reading this, your fire inside keeps burning 🔥 ✝️
You know, I've listened to this video at least once every day, and typically more, this week. Strangely, this character is one of the few instances that has made me seriously reconsider my faith or lack there of. Perhaps its simply because of the conviction in the character of Joshua Graham, biblically he reminds me a great deal of Paul, a man who did terrible things and was struck down and humbled before God. Changed utterly and for the better, but not forgetting their sins that they committed, and yet hoping, hoping beyond hope, that they, evil men, were redeemed, simply for love, that strange state of being. It definitely makes one think.
That line hits hard "The fire that kept me alive... was love.. their love... gods love. I will never be able to repay the debt i owe to them... but i must try" This for some reason hits hardest, i remember this during my fight with cancer. Even now it still hits me
It's good to know that people love this character. It always irked me a little that Obsidian attempted to subtly portray him as misguided and too violent in his actions. They wanted everybody to view him as a likeable pseudo-villain. Especially when you account for his past. Instead, he's become an inspiration for many and an icon of the righteous warrior spirit that so few possess in today's world.
I don't know, i think they portrayed him pretty well. They didn't portray him as misguided per se, Given how his actions were completely justified in retaliation against the white legs. They portrayed him as someone who was willing to do what needed to be done, For example the white legs wanted to not only wipe out all the local tribes in Zion (and abroad) they also "Salted the earth" as in they wanted to destroy Zion itself. There was no way of making peace with that tribe, And Joshua grahams solution of an eye for an eye was entirely justified. It boils down to the classical debate that is very prevalent in Christian theology, Turn the other cheek, Or an eye for an eye.
@@thedon9247 Right, but again observe what happens in the cutscene if you side with him. The tribes destroy each other because they became "violent". Why does it say they do such a thing? Because they "followed your example".
There's a way you can prevent that actually, you need to either ask Joshua to let salt upon wounds fight back or convince him to spare salt upon wounds, either choice changes the outcome. Joshua is open to letting salt upon wounds fight back, but the other choice requires a speech check.
A video game character restored my faith. Funny how the galaxy works. The only way I can describe it is finally not carrying a heavy burden. I just hope it’s not too late for me. May God be with you all.
My faith has constantly been shifting since 2009, but.. hearing all this, hearing Joshua’s words and beliefs that warriors can be lovers, and sinners can learn to bring themselves and others to salvation.. it gives me hope.
I'm not religious anymore, I lost my faith a long time ago. But this speaks to me. The idea of holding onto a spark of hope with the belief that it will get better is one of the most moving concepts we as humans have. The way he speaks in this video reminds me of that. To keep hoping and to keep fighting for what I think is right, no matter what others think and believe.
You can not simply “lose faith.” The doctrine of “irresistible grace,” in scripture speaks on this. So unfortunately you never truly had it. I encourage you to open up scripture and read the gospels. I hope you the Lord blesses you with the gift of faith through grace🙏
Life sucks and then you die. That is if you don't believe in something greater than yourself. We aren't perfect, the church has done some evil things, but surely, there has to be something better than secular modernity. God is loving, God is just, but one day He'll return to conquer evil, thankfully, He's still giving us a chance to repent. All religions are myths, but mine was also a man. God loves you, there's time, He'll always give you a chance, so give Him one too.
I really like Joshua Graham, and as a fellow Christian I really like how they portray him. From what I’ve seen so far he’s not a hateful person, but he’s devoted to God and His laws. I love how he says “Love the sinner hate the sin.” Many people want to portray Christians as hateful people, or bigots but true believers in Christ no matter what love everybody but hate sin because of how they’ve been deeply hurt by sin. Like for me I struggle deeply with lust, I hate how it makes me feel and I hate how it impacted my decisions. I was down a dangerous path before meeting God, and I see a little bit of myself in Joshua. A man who was down a self destructive path, who was ultimately saved by God and now wants to lead others to God because he was shown a better way to life. God bless you all, and I encourage all of you to read the word of God. Yes we are all sinners, but God so loved the world He gave His only son so that we may be saved. I’m not a perfect person, and I’m not even the best believer but I know with God I’m headed down the right path. I hope this will encourage somebody to seek God like I have, and whatever you’re facing that’s troubling you God is always bigger. He will always honor His promises to you, and He will never fail you. 1 John 4:8 - “Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.” “We loved you so much that we shared with you not only God’s Good News but our own lives, too.” - 1 Thessalonians 2:8 “He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,” - Titus 3:5
I was an avid atheist when I played through HH for the first time. Joshua Graham was the first explicitly Christian Character I didn't hate since becoming a young adult. Now I'm in my late 20's, and haven't played video games in any serious way in years, but the wisdom of this fictional character feels like cool rain pouring over me. A stoic, a believer, a sinner redeemed. In a word, a man; a true man.
Yup. The line that made me a Graham stan was “Waging war on good people is bad for the soul”. Sounds obvious, but the way it was delivered made you feel that you were hearing him speak firsthand knowledge on the topic.
"We have made and kept covenants with our lord god to honor as laws, in exchnage we are promised eternal salvation after this life. In a world full of misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that in the end there is light in the darkness" favorite part
His story of being burned, but the fire inside burning brighter, reminds me of how I have been burning in my sins for most of my life. I have only realized recently that I have been. But the fire of the Lord’s love, and the love of others burns bright inside me, now, and I have survived the fire of my sins. I will never be able to repay God for what He has done for me, for what he pulls me out of, and what he pulls me towards. But I must try.
Its been some time that i visited. . . . Civilized places I dont have fond memories of them. too much love of money and ownership, not enough love of god and giving But i have always seen these places from the outside Any Society that derives its power and authority from the will of man alone, lives apart from god, and wil crumble in the end This way lies the path to hell Of course, love the sinner, hate the sin your not so certain Fair enough we all have doubts blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed, but you can be a thomas for now, and you'll see the truth There is much to be skeptical of in this world, so it nolonger suprises me how many people dont really believe in anything, but i believe that our lord was made flesh as jesus christ and died to redeem me, and you . . everyone i know it may be hard for you to accept or understand in my heart i believe that though i am a sinner, i have been saved, and i believe there is something beyond this rock, and this air, and this water around us, something more that is waiting for us. you can rationalize if you'd like. i understand, the good lord knows i've tried. whether there is a god or not, his existence doesn't depend on what you believe, or what i say. The light of the mind alone can not dispel the whole world's darkness The choice is yours of course, we all go through periods of darkness For many of us the road is a difficult one, but the path is always there for us to follow, not matter how many times we may fall think on it and look in your heart, we have made and kept covenants with our lord god to honor his laws, in exchange we are promised eternal salvation after this life. in a world filled with misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that, in the end, there is light in the darkness. But this is the waking world in which we live, there is no need to cry, no need to dream, a day will come when our lord comes to judge us, until than, we must honor his laws and start others along the path of salvation if we can. i will carry the fire of the holy spirit inside, until i stand before my lord for judgement. I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me. I fell down into that dark chasm. . . the flame burned on and on. the fire that had kept me alive, was love. their love. gods love. i will never be able to repay the debt i owe them, but i must try. thank you for. . . staying with me. tommorow will be here soon, and there will still be much work to be done, god be with you.
"There is much to be skeptical of in this world. So it no longer surprises me that so many people no longer believe in anything." As an agnostic who struggles with the idea of faith, this qoute hits hard.
all the words from 0:24 "It's been some time since I've visited.. civilized places. I don't have fond memories of them. Too much love of money and ownership, not enough love of God and giving. But I have always seen this places from the outside. Any society that drives it's power and authority from the will of man alone, lives apart from God, and will crumble in the end. This way lies the path to Hell. Of course, love the sinner, hate the sin. Huhuhu, you're not so certain.. fair enough. We all have doubts. Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed, but you can be a Thomas for now, and you'll see the truth. There is much to be skeptical of in this world, so it no longer surprises me to learn how many people don't really believe in anything. But I believe that our Lord was made flesh as Jesus Christ, and died to redeem me, and you. Everyone. I know it may be hard for you to accept or even to understand, in my heart, I believe that though I am a sinner, I have been saved. And I believe there is something beyond this rock, and this heir, and this water around us. Something more that is waiting for us. You can rationalize if you'd like. I understand, the good Lord knows I have tried. Whether there is a God or not, his existence doesn't depend on what you believe, or what I say. The light of the mind alone cannot dispel all the world's darkness. The choice is yours, of course. We all go through periods of darkness. For many of us, the road is a difficult one, but the path is always there for us to follow, no matter how many times we may fall. Think on it, and look in your heart. We have made and kept covenings with our lord God to honour his laws, in exchange, we ate promised eternal salvation after this life. In a world filled with misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that, in the end, there is light in the darkness. But this is the waking world in which we live, there is no need to cry, no need to dream. The day will come when our Lord returns to judge us all. Until then, we must honour his laws and start others along the path of salvation if we can. I will carry the fire of the Holy Spirit inside, until I stand before my lord for judgement. I survive because the fire inside burnt brighter than the fire around me. I fell down into that dark chasm.. the flame burnt on and on. The fire that it kept me alive.. was love. Their love. God's love. I will never be able to repay the debt I owe them, but I must try. Thank you for.. staying with me. Tomorrow will be here soon, and there is still much work to be done. God be with you."
My baby sister and my older brother provided me with enough money to get back home from a foreign land. I will repay them one way or another and this video just reminded me of the Debt I owe and the love that was given.
im in a such bad time in my life and everytime i see this video start to cry a lot, it helps me when i want to k me self. i am not a god believer but when i see this man i wish i was. joshua has a big impact in my life, n this video too, god bless the guy who made this video and the creator of character
Brother the dark evil thoughts you hear are not uncommon. You are not alone and if hearing this kind of content brings about a calling in you. If it brings you a certain amount of peace perhaps you should stop fighting it and search more into christianty to know yourself. Never judge yourself what's done is done. If you suffer from certain habits and are sick of the constant sin all around you seek God and christ. I am also currently doing the same.
A major take-away I have had when it comes to Joshua is that even the most sinful among us, can be redeemed in the end. Pretty amazing that a video game character can relay that, isn't it? I have not been a man of God, far from it, but the idea of redeeming myself for God in the end is worth the wait. I just pray that I can do so before my story ends, so that I may show others it can be done.
Same as Paul the apostle in the Bible. Made his living persecuting christians. Killing Christians, burning churches, trying to stomp it out. Yet he was chosen as the founder of the church, the rock on which the church would be built, the foundation. There are no sinners past redemption. All can be forgiven.
The magnitude of the words of this clip`s title is not to be underestimated. Belief is more important than knowledge. Why? Because once you know, you no longer believe. You are a Knower, not a Believer. And you fool yourself into thinking that what you Know you can Understand. You cannot. Life is a test, this Earth is not our true Home. We are here because we are broken, damaged things. We were not made broken. We broke ourselves by our disobedience. But there is a way back. Unto eternity, perfection, truth. So we are not abandoned.
any society that derives its power and authority from man alone lives apart from god and will crumble in the end is such a raw line and so damn true. im not a christian myself but man do i agree when we stopped believing as a nation we began to crumble and the supports are about to fall but if we revert and i mean now we may be able to survive and thrive again. Edit: So your boy has begun going to the Greek Orthodox church in my city now because of the videos like this gave me my push eh nice thanks Joshua
As someone who wants to improve their writing, I really love finding speeches from well-written characters like Graham and turning the captions on to read along, trying to really figure out what makes it "good" writing. Among many other things, I think what make's Graham's speech so moving is that it isn't there to sell the player on his ideology or to make some kind of statement about religion as a whole, but rather it's Graham simply speaking from the heart about how faith shaped his life. It comes off as a very true and believable statement you'd hear somebody like Graham share around a campfire, or maybe just say into the wind if he thought somebody out there was listening. Graham feels like a real person, rather than a vessel for plot. Thanks for putting this together.
I have woken and knowing that this is truly possible for all of us by this just opened this is like no other way I can explain how much I need this Amen
Both Joshua and Daniel are my favorite in the whole game. It always reminds me of when I was a starving college student and I was walking around and smelled good bbq. It was a baptist bbq for the church. I was desperate and hungry so I pretended to be a part of the church. The pastor came over and I thought he was gonna kick me out. He instead came and welcomed me and asked if I was hungry he would be happy to give me a plate. Feeling guilty I said I'm sorry I'm not a part of the faith. His reply? "Don't recall asking if we shared faith just that you were hungry. As a pastor I see it a blessing to feed those seeking help and food. So come eat."
@@henrypaleveda7760 Both. The calmness and the tone of his voice make this relaxing and calming at the same time. For someone who suffers from anxiety it calming to the mind.
The dlc shows that to properly wield a sword, you must wield a faith. It doesn't matter what faith, but you require some motivation to conquer your obstacles
I would pay so much money for his voice actor to to an audio book of the Bible.
Ah,a man of based culture. God be with you.
@@JRBDWD Likewise
His name is Keith Szarabajka, if anyone can get in contact with him, they should ask.
@@Twortortle hoping someone will
@@Twortortle It's difficult, I've tried. He is on Cameo, but, in order to even be able to send the man a message, which he may or may not see, it costs $30; and that's not even asking for a voice commission, it would be asking him if he would be willing to undertake it in the first place.
Joshua Graham is such an incredible character. Love his story, his wisdom his brutality. There should be a movie about him called “Honest Hearts”, I think it would be cool
Would definitely have a lot of Book of Eli vibes, which I think would be cool.
I was thinking the same thing, there are so many things you could do with a film like that. It would be awesome to see him fighting one of Caesars many Frumenttari sent to kill him.
or maybe a part of a fallout book/movie 100% dedicated to joshua called "tales of the burned man" also explaining why he's called the burned man and when he served in caesars army. or maybe like you said "honest hearts" being AFTER zion. Reminds me... does anyone know what happens to joshua after the dlc?
@@PolymurExcel indeed
New Vegas' got so many characters that should have gotten a lot more spotlight, like, Graham, Ulysses, the dude that explored all the caves in Zion, the Father, can't remember the name, but they all got crazy backstories
Joshua Graham is the only character I've ever interacted with in a game or seen in a movie that made me think religion driven people can be good characters. Usually they're poorly written by religious people, or poorly written by non-believers. Joshua was written to be a good character, not a political mouthpiece. An absolutely incredible character, in an incredible DLC, in an incredible game, in an incredible franchise. Long live Fallout.
That's a really good point actually. Rarely do you get a well-developed religious character without any baggage included by the writers.
The other one I find fascinating is Matt Murdock/Daredevil.
I'm not religious but when I completely understand faith through a video game or comic character I know the writers did a good job
Not really religious, but joshua graham as a character can make one believe. such good storytelling.
Usually, the people who write religious people do so to attack their beliefs somehow, or make them look bad. See Far Cry trying to demonize Christians.
I enjoyed the game, and especially the OST, but at its core, that was its core message.
@@willrockurworldppl ironically, I found Jesus through Joshua Graham. Never been much religious but hearing Daniel and Joshua talk about it. It got me curious.
"Most replayed" section:
"Love... their love... God's love... I will never be able to repay the debt I owe to them, but I must try."
Christ is Love. He is Risen ❤️☦️
@@1stdebunker As is true!
No posturing just owning up to mistakes and moving on!
Oops must be mostly me 😅😂
Christ is King!
The conversations with Joshua Graham brought me back to my faith. Incredible writing
Wow, man, that's epic! I had never given up fully on my faith, but I was acting pretty degenerate and didn't really care about my faith all that much. Joshua Graham opened my heart back to taking my faith seriously, which I eventually did and although I struggle with trying not to do some sins more than others, I am in a much better place than I was. And Joshua Graham is one of my favorite characters, and New Vegas one of my favorite games. It's amazing what God can use to bring us back to Him.
@@CaesarGB God be with you, brother.
Love the sinner, hate the sin.
Blessed be, may the good Lord be with you all
@@davegunnir2801 Lordy lordy
@@TheCandidPygmy Sweet baby Jesus.
Joshua and Daniel are interesting for being two philosophies out of the same book. "Eye for an eye" and "Turn the other cheek". It was interesting to see that in this game these weren't parodies of faith or strawmen of faith. They were taken seriously and that's what made this the best expansion of any fallout game
Never played a Fallout, but PLEASE tell me Daniel is a legalist (just generally, like a follows the rules to the letter kinda guy). "Eye for an eye" was essentially part of the prescribed Judaic law (Old Testament), whereas "turn the other cheek," was an interpersonal trait given by Jesus in the New Testament. I would find it immensely amusing/fitting if these two were juxtaposed in such a way (not that this Joshua fellow is necessarily the cheek turning type, but he sounds like a guy who's trying his darndest to be something more).
@@asheblackflight1720 Daniel was the Turn the other cheek guy. Eye for an Eye and Turn the Other cheek are both true and biblical and righteous. Eye for an Eye refers to the governments treatment of injustice. Punishment to fit the crime. Turn the other cheek was about interpersonal relations.
@@blacksheepwall79 only fitting for religion to demand cattle to obey government reign
@@asheblackflight1720 it’s been a while since I’ve played the expansion, but if memory serves me right, yes Daniel was a more “legalist” in terms of following the letter of law, as it were. There was an interesting dilemma between the two of them
His only flaw sadly that I've noticed as a christian: he's a Mormon
everything joshua graham says, goes so unnecessarily hard
It's the voice. It's just... perfect. Deep, rich, serious. He says these quotes in full faith of them, he isn't pretending, he fully means it and you feel it.
Even when he greets you first in the cave, and he says "I pray for all good people who come to Zion", and later "God be with you", you FEEL that this isn't just an empty phrase for him. He is completely serious. And that is what makes him so likable (at least to me). That, even without knowing anything about you, he cares.
He built diffrent
Legit.
Not really
Not if you're a real Christian.
It Is hard. It says that in scripture.
Even the opening line: "Hmm. It's been some time since I've visited... civilised places. I don't have fond memories of them. Too much love of money and ownership, not enough love of God and giving."
So damn good
I think the reason why Joshua works so well is because he perfectly fits in the world he lives in, a man that has seen the worst of humanity, has felt the worst pain imaginable, has seen how death and suffering is normal in this world. And yet he chose to keep to his faith as a source of light in this very dark world, a light that is nearly out but he does not mind it, he is a man of light in a world that has been plunged darkness and that's why he stands out so much from any other character in the game
I think what helped restore his faith was his near death at the hands of Caesar.
Everyone forgets that he was a legate and committed some of the worst atrocities in legion history. He was the devil. Nothing he does after will erase his past. He needs to belive God forgave him because he can't forgive himself.
@@austinmccon2759 depending on how you play that dlc you either help him realize God forgave him a long time ago and it's time he forgave himself and discard the "burning man" or help him steer right back into it. As a man of God myself I like to take the former approach because I find it a very poetic thing, how he discards the hate in him and finds peace at last.
@@austinmccon2759 No one forgets that he was legate, hell he's reminded of his past every second of his life because of his burn wounds and even after all he's done he feels like he still needs to do more. It's not that he can't forgive himself but that the crimes he's committed aren't so easily forgiven in his eyes but how knows that the lord is more forgiving than he and that gives him a light in the darkness.
You could say he was…a light shining in darkness 🙏💙
Joshua Graham isn't religious he's a man of God.
Down Eros, up Mars!
Based. Banish religious spirits and embrace faith.
Well said brother
@@StarboyXL9 fuck your faith. That shit is for smooth brained turds.
A man of God is a god of a man
One of the best well written characters I’ve ever seen
its because hes a properly written Christian
Yes he is. I think a verse many should live by is hate not the sinner, hate the sin. One of his best lines, and how I try to live my life.
@@radicalgremlin6440 Yeah i figured this out while meditating alot on myself see we never truly hate ourselves either its just the sin we hate just thought id throw that in your advice is still way better
Damn I fucking hate myself for speed running dialogue in all dlc.
@@3je29 lol I feel you right now too
"Weather there is a god or not his existence doesnt depend on what you believe or what i say" this is a good quote it reminds me of something similar my pastor told me
how to make a preacher an interesting character
The only other preacher I found interesting in recent years was the one from Grapes of Wrath.
Preacher that packs .45 auto.
Make him cold and angry.
@@Masaki-1334 they do call it the Lord's Caliber. Poetic.
or have somone who genuinly struggles with the desicions people around them make, just have it be man vs human nature (or that character's struggle be man against man's nature).
Joshua just proves that God loves warriors even the ones who turn their back on his people. Joshua was broken physically by the legion his faith and the love anf faith of his people saved his life bringing him back to the light of God and the truth of where he is needed, God always takes back those who turn there back on him in his eternal love
Take the Book of David. Even after his fall. It's an excellent book to read, for the religious and areligious alike. It has many lessons to give.
The bible is not merely a book of superstitions. It is catalogue of the many mistakes we have made as a species and what we have learned from it. We should not take it for granted.
@@TheCandidPygmy thank you I definitely will give it a read
@@TheCandidPygmy what the hell is the book of David, like King David wrote a book?
@@adamf.barbieri8788 The Bible is separated into different chapters called "Books," as it's an anthology of the original spoken tales.
@@shanggodaygang8388 i mean, there's the psalms of David and Samuel which talks about David but there's no book of David by name
I want more characters written like him. He is like an embodiment of Old Testament wrath and justice. Between Joshua Graham and Randall Clark’s Logs, I’d say Honest hearts had one of the most well written stories in the fallout franchise.
It still blows my mind that New Vegas has a better writing in Clark - a character who never actually shows in the game - than Bethesda has ever put into any of their characters.
Well... His skeleton appears, does that count?
He is old testament with new testament values. Remember that, for Jesus loves you and weeps for you when you sin against him. But fear not for he will always forgive you
@Cessna152ful 😢😢😢idk who you are but ty that hit me so hard right here ❤😢😢😢
This is one of the best of the Joshua Graham speech videos (not sure what you'd call them) imo. Gives a coherent message while still capturing the essence of the character, the other ones basically chop up his dialogue to fit a certain theme.
This is much appreciated my friend
@@EggEnjoyer the one with the pink background right?
A sermon my friend, you would call this a sermon.
@@goodfella14 what a day we live in where Joshua is a better preacher than most. Just goes to show how good the writing in FNV is
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Ayo, I don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events. If anyone is interested, read on
Brothers, what have we done. look at us. look at what we've become. This isn't right. we're wasting time going on about girls and sus drawings that don't give a f*ck about us. What is the point of lust? Why do we do this? This doesn't fix our problems, doesn't make the stress and pain go away.
repent to God, friends. We must stay focused, brothers, on what really matters. I'm only 17, but I'm telling you, in the words of johnny cash, "sooner or later God will cut you down."
you will lose almost everything important to you. please, for your sakes, repent and turn to Jesus. He is, in the words of Skillet, "better than drugs." He is also better than lust. love > lust. You'll find out that this is true. love may hurt, and same for lust, but lust will keep you chained down, eventually killing you mentally, spiritually, emotionally, and possibly physically.
hell was never meant for us, my fellow youtube user. it was for the devil and his squad, and God gave us the Way out of there since we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
God knew we were wack, but He decided He was still come down and help us, despite our unfaithfulness. most relationships (like friendships, romantic relationships) aren't like this. Very few, but not a whole lot.
religion (Christianity) is just a relationship with God along with loving others (see james 1:27)
also, we have various types of evidence that backs up the Bible.
Here's one example: Scientists have discovered that the earth "skipped" a day.
The Bible explains how that happened. In the book of Joshua, Joshua asked the sun to stop so he and the Israelites could defeat their enemies. Then in 2 Kings, King Hezekiah learned he was dying, and pleaded to God to not let him die. God sent a prophet to king hezekiah who said hezekiah would live. Hezekiah wanted a sign, and that would be for the sun to defy the law of inertia and go back 10 degrees. NASA confirmed it and did the math (look it up for more info).
We also found Noah’s Ark hanging out in turkey, along with anchor stones marked with crosses signifying that it’s a revered place, along with altars and many other things. Look it up, it’s good stuff.
more evidence for the Bible concerning cosmology and divine revelation in job 26:7, proverbs 8:27, Isaiah 40:22 (read on)
The idea that the earth was round can be dated back to 600 BC in Greece. It was more widely accepted around the 3rd century (300 BC-201 BC) Note: time was “labeled” differently back then. for example, year 3000, year 420, year 69, year 0, year 1, year 2… and so on.
Job 26:7: “. . .He [God] hangs the earth on nothing” The book of Job was supposedly written at 2100 BC.
Proverbs 8:27: “. . .when He drew a circle on the face of the deep. . .” Proverbs was possibly written between 970 and 686 BC
Isaiah 40:22: “it is He who sits above the circles of the earth. . .” Isaiah was written between 739 and 680 BC.
This one doesn’t pertain to cosmology, but it refers to divine revelation nonetheless.
Isaiah 11:15 “The Lord will dry up the gulf of the Egyptian sea; with a scorching wind he will sweep his hand over the Euphrates River. He will break it up into seven streams so that anyone can cross over in sandals.”
Revelation 16:12 “The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.”
How did they know about this? You tell me, my fellow Zoomerz.
The Holy Spirit exists. I was a slave to s3xual sin for 7-ish d@mn years. Finally at 16, God freed me. Also, look up John Gabbana's (boonk gang) testimony. Dude did a lot of wacky stuff. He's changed now.
also, the soul exists. someone i know (i won't say who- privacy reasons) saw their soul leaving their body. like pulling off a band-aid, except it doesn't hurt.
I was suicidal for 9-ish months, but then I read John 3:16, and poof- the big sad went away in one night.
There are also non-Christian sources who have confirmed the existence and divinity of Jesus, some of which were hostile towards Christianity, such as:
Thallus (52 AD), who said Jesus lived, was crucified, and confirmed the darkness and earthquake that followed Christ’s crucifixion;
Tacitus (56-120 AD), who called the followers of Christ Christians, confirmed that Jesus was crucified under Pontus Pilate’s command
Talmud (400-700 AD), confirmed that the disciples were martyred for their faith, and confirmed Jesus was executed the day before the Passover, and said Jesus had “magical” powers
Pliny the Younger (61-113 AD), who said that the Christians thought Jesus was/is God in the Flesh (God the Son)
Phlegon (80-140 AD), who said Jesus had the ability to predict the future, and confirmed that Jesus was crucified during Caesar’s reign, confirmed Jesus rose from the dead, and confirmed He showed His wounds to confirm He was crucified.
Celcus (175 AD), who said Jesus was born of a virgin, said His father is a carpenter, and confirmed Jesus had miraculous powers
(See cold-case Christianity for more details)
Here’s the physical evidence of Jesus and His Resurrection:
1) No persecution would have started if He hadn’t come back (the disciples thought Jesus would never resurrect)
2) The Roman soldiers would have paid with their lives if they failed at their jobs
3) there was a 2-4 ton rock that 11-12 guys would have to move (they didn’t have any help. Everyone said “crucify Him”) major L to those opposed to Jesus
4) there was a Roman seal which was a metal pin that sealed the tomb stone
5) Stealing the Jesus’s body isn’t something the disciples would do (besides Judas. Although he hung himself after feeling remorse for betraying Jesus).
6) the disciples wouldn’t die for what they knew would be a lie. (The lie being Jesus never made the ultimate comeback)
faith and reason, people
hit me up to learn more about how science proves the Bible or just about God in general
"The good lord knows ive tried" the way he delivers that line is perfect
He's so bad ass. Whoever made his character I think was a legit Christian
The writers for new vegas are absolutely brilliant. I'm not sure if they are, but they certainly understand the roots of the faith and knew how to create a convincing character.
Going on a mission trip tomorrow and this message from one of my favorite characters ever, hit just right.
I genuinely wish there were more great Christian characters in mainstream media. So many are watered-down, jaded, or religious fanatics/cult leaders. The good ones stand out, even if you don't share their denomination.
@@NoName-sv7pp be safe and go with God brother
@@justaperson3641 Thank you, brother. I appreciate that. You as well.
Josh Sawyer was/(is?) an Atheist, on his UA-cam channel he talked about all the research he did, so even if he doesn't believe, he very much cared.
I imagine the Courier sitting in camp with Joshua coming up to talk to them as he sharpens a knife. As he goes on, he and the Courier wander the roads of the Mojave looking at the factions and people who live there. The Courier talks with Graham of their own faith and ideals in the factions or life, and he answers with understanding and support. He relives his fall into the Canyon, and how his love of God persevered through the fire. The Courier shares a similar rebirth where they were struck down, but the flame that they hold is a curious one.
Both of these survivors carry on with skills of violence and knowledge, and have the power to reshape entire groups of people. Joshua holds love and justice, while the Courier holds whatever they choose. A burning vengeance for those who wronged them and maybe those who haven't? Or a duty or passion to form the world in their image, for better or for worse? In any case, they sit at the camp looking out on the people Joshua searches to repay and help. In the end, he bids you farewell for both of you still have work to do, and may the Lord be with you.
I'm not really a religious person, only really holding onto values of goodwill, but Joshua is an awesome character and if framed right (like this video), he can prove to be a good friend to the Courier, reflecting on their ideals and actions and even how they both carry themselves after both their near-deaths.
Now thank you for reading my little speech, and I wish you good luck.
You my friend made my Day with that speech
This was as beautiful as the speech itself my friend. Good day
Safe travels friend, may your roads lead you to the right path and give you a full view of the world around you. Peace be with you.
Now, I don’t believe you need to be a believer in any type of religion to be a good person, but I believe that religions form to extoll certain values, and you can certainly pick and choose which values you wish to hold up.
That’s fine, for everyone is different and they’re free to choose, and if they’re is any higher power that allowed life to bloom, I believe that it is our most defining features as sapient and sentient beings of having the choice to choose our own path.
And I find that with great effort, it gives greater satisfaction in grasping for something that you strive towards and work towards, rather than something given. I may be butchering this quote, but I believe it went like this, “What’s more satisfying to see in a story, a villain that strives to change his ways with difficulty, or a hero that breezes his way through life because he is simply good?”
Though some people do not like change, and that is understandable. The cost is always bloody, modern civilization is built upon the bones of those who died to make it happen. There is a reason why people (and indeed living beings in general) have an instinctive dislike of change; change is dangerous, even when the outcome of said change is an improvement.
We are imperfect, and I believe that no being can be perfect in this world, and I find comfort within that fact, for the world itself is imperfect. A world is beautiful not because it is a canvas of only light colors, but because the striking disparity between light and dark craft wondrous paintings that show us the multicolored world. We strive and move forward to better ourselves, to change ourselves and the world to our perceived good. Everyone can learn from everyone else. We learn by talking to others, and we learn by observing others. Being human means living without finding answers to all the questions we seek. However, does that mean it would right to say that all our beliefs on this world are good? No, far from it. There is no good or bad judgement, all that is subjective. You could be helping a good person that is secretly a bad person, or hurt a bad person that turned out to be a good person. You wouldn’t know. Either way, people will form their own judgements whether you are good or bad depending on their side of the story.
I’m realizing that I’m going too far in a tangent and in my opinion, an arrogant, lecturing tone, so I apologize if you see and construed it that way, so I’ll cut it short here.
I like the analysis, and honestly it’s a good embodiment of God and his wants for humans, as he himself is what gave us free will to follow him, or fulfill our lives in our own ways, be them moral or not, and Joshua can easily represent the God, and the Courier, by default of being ‘us’ is the free will to do as man will, I mean hell in Honest Hearts the fastest way to get out of Zion is murder Joshua, Daniel and the other Sorrows then dip, yet again man having the will to forsake god, or for him to help him and understand him, whether or not they truly care
“ _But I believe that our Lord was made flesh as Jesus Christ and died to redeem me. And you. Everyone._ ”
I read this just as he said it. Deep words
THIS, as well as Skull Knight’s first conversation with Guts, are some of the best monologues I’ve heard. There’s so much weight behind Graham’s words that it’s almost real. A man of great talent, who lost his way, and is doing his best to amend for his mistakes. Truly an inspiration.
As someone who lapsed into quiet agnosticism years ago, Joshua Graham was still one of my absolute favorite characters in Fallout NV. I’ve known people who share in that unshakable faith IRL, and even if I no longer have the capacity for it, it’s comforting to know that there are those who still keep the faith.
I feel a similar way, don't count yourself out on never feeling that connection again. Some days are better than others and even the most faithful have moments of doubt.
It's my belief that those who do not assume to know who God is end up understanding what I guess you would call His true nature better. It's ridiculous to believe that if there is a force with the attributes of God that we simple creatures could give them a name or a face, and when we do it only serves to aid us and not them.
@@BakaPope we have an image of God with the Bible saying we were made in his image. Whether that's literal or means something else is up to the individual i spose.
@@BakaPope I find the premise of not knowing God being a better way to understand him to be unrealistic. I don't see any logic or evidence for that being the case besides having an open mind leading to more discoveries. We know God because he knows us and that's probably as far as most will get.
Im agnostic for the simple sense of I believe there is a higher power something we do not know but it is there , just religion itself is hypocritical they all are Christianity , Judaism, Islam they all contradict each other and what has that led to ? (War, hate, greed....) Yet they all claim to worship the same god . It has done nothing to help us only destroy us
I am not a man of God but there is logic in what he says and his Wisdom is certainly enlightening Joshua has to be the best character in the entire game
100%
Lemme ask you, what was before/created the Big Bang. Not trying to bible thump I’m not exactly a man of god my any means but just food for thought.
I would like more to be written like Joshua, rather than just a zealot, if you need to make them a zealot for thematic reasons or what have you, at least make them compelling or have some reason. But then you have Joshua who believes and (zealot or not) is a functional person.
To call this a game because individuals have trivialized and made you realize the rules and hidden programing is kinda incorrect.
@@bigshrimp6458
The thing is, it's entirely ok for science-based reasoning to admit that we simply don't know that. _Yet._
Theories are tested, studies are peer-reviewed, old methods are amended as new discoveries are made.
Science admits and understands that human knowledge isn't a be-all, end-all.
It is a process.
Believers however, claim to have *absolute* knowledge of the nature if the universe. They make all manner of outlandish claims masked with demagoguery and sophistry with no valid evidence to back up ANY of it.
Science you can study and verify. It is literal study and advancement.
It looks at the verifiable facts and then considers what conclusions could be drawn from them.
Faith is unverifiable by design. It is ignorance and regression.
It has decided conclusions and tries to cherry-pick whatever mangled remains of facts it can to suit it's narrative while ignoring anything contradictory.
How about you instead ask the faith-ridden for evidence of their claims, or about the inherent contradictions in their "moral" philisophies, and so on.
_Food for thought._
I try to be a man of God. I don't think I do very well, I fall and struggle with pornography, and everytime I get a victory in my life, there are 10 defeats. But I have faith that God will use my life to accomplish great things, and that he won't give up on me.
Still, I ask him everyday to not give up on me.
In my perspective, young it may be, the Father is not disappointed to those that fall, but to those that choose to stay down. The fact that you stand back up after your falls and failures is how I think he wished for our Faith to be, not one of never falling and being impervious to sin and desire but of being able to walk back into his embrace and teachings for when we are in those dark, weak moments that every single soul has and will continue to experience to their dying day.
Stay Strong, You gonna make it
As long as you don't give up on yourself, God will never give up on you. God put faith in you when he created you by giving you the ability of being in control over your own actions at every moment.
I struggle with the same thing. Hope you make it. It's nice to know I'm not the only one.
Same here friend. Don’t give up. God will give you victory.
Yes youtube, i will take whats basically Joshua Grahm ASMR. I will take it happily.
The gravitas that this voice actor show is astonishing, I could listen to him for hours.
Fun fact. The voice actor is in Batman, The dark Knight. He's the cop who was left in the cell with the Joker, when the Joker says "do you want to know which of your friends were cowards?"
“His existence does not depend on what you believe or what I say” what a great line
So glad to see a new Joshua Graham video still to this day lmao
“The light of the mind alone cannot dispel the WHOLE worlds darkness”
Damn
glad i found this
Dude ! Love your video on Joshua !
omg it’s the OG. I love you
Btw do you know the name of the song you used for your Joshua video? I really love the music
@@basedwave7914 thank you both for your work
@@basedwave7914 Thank you!
Obsidian put in SO much effort to craft a compelling anti-villain in Joshua, and for all their craft and art they failed utterly...
...what we have instead is a wonderfully sympathetic and charismatic warrior of faith (both martial and spiritual) and I couldn't be happier. They went prospecting for tin and struck straight-up *gold*.
What? He's definitely not written as a villain. He's written more like an antihero.
@@D.H.1082 Eh, I see more evil in Joshua than good... but if you disagree then I won't argue with you.
He's a very subjective character.
@@MrMortull I definitely see him more as an antihero than a villain given that it's so easy to take his side, and I think that's what his writers had in mind when doing his dialogue, so I wouldn't really call it a failure.
I see Joshua and Iroh together as fictional generals who fell from their positions of power and became better men.
Joshua lost his way trying to Survive the Blackfoot clan, survival shrouding the beliefs of his people to protect himself and the Followers of the Apocalypse who had tried to help the tribals, thereby losing his faith in god.
The need to survive lead to training the Blackfoot to fight the other tribes. Defeating the other tribes lead to leading in Caesar’s name because they had been friends. The betrayal of Caesar throwing him into the Grand Canyon should’ve killed him. But it didn’t.
Crawling back home to his people, he believed he would’ve been casted out for his crimes. Instead they forgave him and helped him. Rekindling his belief in God. But his time as the Legate of the Legion didn’t simply go away. It remained a part of him.
Using the examples of god’s wrath to justify when he felt the same rage that had lead him to leading the Legion’s armies against the enemies of the New Canaanites. But he is still trying to be a better man than what he was. To truly redeem himself.
The only way I really see him letting go of his past is to convince him to spare Salt-Upon-Wounds. Showing Retribution and Vengeance can be tempered with Mercy and Compassion. Giving him some peace.
Children of Atom hate him! Find out why!
lol
The Children of Atom hate him, because he told them the Truth
The children of atom hate him because Joshua wasn't claiming a certain religion, he believed in the Creator,God, he believed that yeshua was crucified and died to pay for what horrible sin was to come
This is so good, thank you so much for this. God be with you.
Thank you very much ! God bless you
Unironically, thank you for this sermon.
God bless the writer of these lines and whoever made this video.
I like to think. Meeting Joshua changed something in the Courier. I always got the general sense that Six (for lack of a better name.) Was a force of nature waiting to be unleashed, but he had to get there first. Meet Joshua was that first step in awakening that sleeping beast. Bringing reckoning to Elijah was the next, uniting the big empty, then finally.. Ulysses. A journey to prepare Six. transform him. Into something more than "just another courier." All of it, to make the man into a conduit for power. Just like all the rest, like Caesar, or house, Joshua or Lanius, Kimball or Ulysses. To some a hero, to others a god, and some still a living nightmare. New Vegas is one of the best stories told in gaming hands down.
It is, and I think Courier Six kind of brilliantly fits in the lore, specifically because they're at the center of so many events. I've always felt like the protagonists are kind of like a representation of all the myths and legends and culture that makes up the Wasteland. Everybody has heard of this one monumental figure in one way or another. But thanks to the giant medieval game of telephone that these stories get spread through, we don't actually know what's true, what's exaggerated, or what they even actually did. One person heard they were a tall handsome man, the Chosen One of his tribe on the west coast. Another guy heard they were a Lone Survivor, on a quest in Boston to kill her husband's murderer and son's kidnapper. A traveling merchant from the Mojave stopped in a tavern in Utah and said they were a lonesome Courier, who saw horrors and miracles on his amazing travels.
Who was the real figure behind all these stories? What incredible feats did they actually perform to become such a cultural influence? Who knows... must have been a wild ride, whatever it was.
Jesus *said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are those who did not see, and yet believed."
John 20:29
*Jesus was talking to Thomas, who insisted on seeing Jesus' wounds after He was resurrected.
Yet once he saw, he never once doubted. It's not wrong to doubt. It's wrong to refuse the truth.
😢amen
Joshua Graham helped me get back on The Straight and Narrow
God be with you all friends... god be with you all.
Until the very end.
Joshua makes me feel more religious than ever
you should try warhammer, but jokes aside Clamavi De Profoundus (The profound Cry) does some great work with the music they write, compose or simply accompany and cover.
as an orthodox christian I was always curious what the Orthodox version of him would be like then again it won't matter, he's not a good christian, he is a great and the ideal man of faith.
@@AtomescheBaron75 I appreciated that he wasn't the best christian but they still made him good and even in a good light.
@Caleb OKAY yeah I believe every good Christian should try to be like Joshua, nearly perfect. Also that's cool, welcome to the Orthodoxy
God be with you.
As someone with blast based ptsd and lots of trauma, I feel the quote “I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me.”
Edit: I finally got the quote tattooed on my arm, opposite side of my burns. I hope you all get as much from Joshua Graham’s words as I do.
Too
This phrase hits different when you know what you've been through
Be strong, you are not alone 🤝
Hey man, God bless you. You’re very strong and I will be praying for you.
As someone who was set on fire in an ambush, it hit hard
Same internet stranger, Same.
I wish you all get the point that he’s talking about the fire of the Holy Spirit, and not some edgy “I have a fire inside me 😮”.
God bless you all anyways! Hope you all recover from the physical burns.
These videos are literally solo carrying my mental health
I spent all of my elementary years in a Christian school and I always found it very wise that Joshua told the player that Gods existence doesnt depend on their religion or what anyone else says, because we dont know jack about where we truly came from.
Great video
As a combat veteran, seeing the worse evil that man can do to one another…my faith has always been…let’s just say that I go back in forth with it. Joshua graham is one of the few ppl I feel like I connect with the most. I will try to keep my faith and I pray that whoever is reading this, your fire inside keeps burning 🔥 ✝️
Thank you for your service!
“Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed”. 1:22
Glory to Jesus Christ.
You know, I've listened to this video at least once every day, and typically more, this week. Strangely, this character is one of the few instances that has made me seriously reconsider my faith or lack there of.
Perhaps its simply because of the conviction in the character of Joshua Graham, biblically he reminds me a great deal of Paul, a man who did terrible things and was struck down and humbled before God. Changed utterly and for the better, but not forgetting their sins that they committed, and yet hoping, hoping beyond hope, that they, evil men, were redeemed, simply for love, that strange state of being.
It definitely makes one think.
That line hits hard
"The fire that kept me alive... was love.. their love... gods love.
I will never be able to repay the debt i owe to them... but i must try"
This for some reason hits hardest, i remember this during my fight with cancer.
Even now it still hits me
Just put my faith back in God. This is beautiful
Keep seeking him and you will find him. I promise, god bless
It's good to know that people love this character. It always irked me a little that Obsidian attempted to subtly portray him as misguided and too violent in his actions. They wanted everybody to view him as a likeable pseudo-villain. Especially when you account for his past. Instead, he's become an inspiration for many and an icon of the righteous warrior spirit that so few possess in today's world.
I don't know, i think they portrayed him pretty well. They didn't portray him as misguided per se, Given how his actions were completely justified in retaliation against the white legs.
They portrayed him as someone who was willing to do what needed to be done, For example the white legs wanted to not only wipe out all the local tribes in Zion (and abroad) they also "Salted the earth" as in they wanted to destroy Zion itself. There was no way of making peace with that tribe, And Joshua grahams solution of an eye for an eye was entirely justified.
It boils down to the classical debate that is very prevalent in Christian theology, Turn the other cheek, Or an eye for an eye.
@@thedon9247 Right, but again observe what happens in the cutscene if you side with him. The tribes destroy each other because they became "violent". Why does it say they do such a thing? Because they "followed your example".
There's a way you can prevent that actually, you need to either ask Joshua to let salt upon wounds fight back or convince him to spare salt upon wounds, either choice changes the outcome. Joshua is open to letting salt upon wounds fight back, but the other choice requires a speech check.
@@thedon9247 lol seriously?! I always just capped the dude lmao boy do I feel stupid
Honestly I prefer just letting Joshua put a cap In "general gobldigook" but yeah there's a few choices you can make there that change ending you get
It is better to be clean than comfortable.
Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ!
God is good all the time
Glory be unto him for he is Good!
Glory to him! Now and forever we praise him❤
@harryburke1908 and all the time god is good
He is risen!
A video game character restored my faith. Funny how the galaxy works. The only way I can describe it is finally not carrying a heavy burden. I just hope it’s not too late for me. May God be with you all.
"The light of the mind alone cannot dispel the whole world's darkness"
Это лучшее, что мог предложить мне ютуб.
Прекрасная история Нового Вегаса и прекрасный персонаж.
Храни тебя Бог, друг. Спасибо, что сделал это видео!
And I believe there is something beyond this rock. And this air, and this water around us.
god be with you
My faith has constantly been shifting since 2009, but.. hearing all this, hearing Joshua’s words and beliefs that warriors can be lovers, and sinners can learn to bring themselves and others to salvation.. it gives me hope.
I'm not religious anymore, I lost my faith a long time ago. But this speaks to me. The idea of holding onto a spark of hope with the belief that it will get better is one of the most moving concepts we as humans have. The way he speaks in this video reminds me of that. To keep hoping and to keep fighting for what I think is right, no matter what others think and believe.
This is propably the only thing we can do in this world. Finding out what is right for us and chasing it without harming others. Have a good one
at least should you ever decide to regrow your faith you'll know it's true.
I only speak from experience.
You can not simply “lose faith.” The doctrine of “irresistible grace,” in scripture speaks on this. So unfortunately you never truly had it. I encourage you to open up scripture and read the gospels. I hope you the Lord blesses you with the gift of faith through grace🙏
Life sucks and then you die. That is if you don't believe in something greater than yourself. We aren't perfect, the church has done some evil things, but surely, there has to be something better than secular modernity. God is loving, God is just, but one day He'll return to conquer evil, thankfully, He's still giving us a chance to repent. All religions are myths, but mine was also a man. God loves you, there's time, He'll always give you a chance, so give Him one too.
Even if you lose your faith, you can still hold onto that sliver of hope.
"To live is for Christ and to die is gain"
It doesn't matter how many times I listen to this. I always come back.
Especially after sinning.
I gotta say this is about perfect, even the pauses are just the right amount of time its kinda surreal
I really like Joshua Graham, and as a fellow Christian I really like how they portray him. From what I’ve seen so far he’s not a hateful person, but he’s devoted to God and His laws. I love how he says “Love the sinner hate the sin.” Many people want to portray Christians as hateful people, or bigots but true believers in Christ no matter what love everybody but hate sin because of how they’ve been deeply hurt by sin. Like for me I struggle deeply with lust, I hate how it makes me feel and I hate how it impacted my decisions. I was down a dangerous path before meeting God, and I see a little bit of myself in Joshua. A man who was down a self destructive path, who was ultimately saved by God and now wants to lead others to God because he was shown a better way to life.
God bless you all, and I encourage all of you to read the word of God. Yes we are all sinners, but God so loved the world He gave His only son so that we may be saved. I’m not a perfect person, and I’m not even the best believer but I know with God I’m headed down the right path. I hope this will encourage somebody to seek God like I have, and whatever you’re facing that’s troubling you God is always bigger. He will always honor His promises to you, and He will never fail you.
1 John 4:8 - “Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.”
“We loved you so much that we shared with you not only God’s Good News but our own lives, too.” - 1 Thessalonians 2:8
“He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,” - Titus 3:5
" The light of the mind alone cannot dispel the whole world's darkness" this was the most meaningful line in the entire video for me, thank you.
Even as an agnostic, there is still much respect to be had for a man with such drive and passion for what he believes in.
I was an avid atheist when I played through HH for the first time. Joshua Graham was the first explicitly Christian Character I didn't hate since becoming a young adult. Now I'm in my late 20's, and haven't played video games in any serious way in years, but the wisdom of this fictional character feels like cool rain pouring over me. A stoic, a believer, a sinner redeemed. In a word, a man; a true man.
*Based St. Constantine the Great profile pic!
Yup.
The line that made me a Graham stan was “Waging war on good people is bad for the soul”. Sounds obvious, but the way it was delivered made you feel that you were hearing him speak firsthand knowledge on the topic.
Until then... God be with you.
"We have made and kept covenants with our lord god to honor as laws, in exchnage we are promised eternal salvation after this life. In a world full of misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that in the end there is light in the darkness" favorite part
His story of being burned, but the fire inside burning brighter, reminds me of how I have been burning in my sins for most of my life. I have only realized recently that I have been. But the fire of the Lord’s love, and the love of others burns bright inside me, now, and I have survived the fire of my sins. I will never be able to repay God for what He has done for me, for what he pulls me out of, and what he pulls me towards. But I must try.
Its been some time that i visited. . . . Civilized places
I dont have fond memories of them.
too much love of money and ownership, not enough love of god and giving
But i have always seen these places from the outside
Any Society that derives its power and authority from the will of man alone, lives apart from god, and wil crumble in the end
This way lies the path to hell
Of course, love the sinner, hate the sin
your not so certain
Fair enough
we all have doubts
blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed, but you can be a thomas for now, and you'll see the truth
There is much to be skeptical of in this world, so it nolonger suprises me how many people dont really believe in anything, but i believe that our lord was made flesh as jesus christ and died to redeem me, and you . . everyone
i know it may be hard for you to accept or understand in my heart i believe that though i am a sinner, i have been saved, and i believe there is something beyond this rock, and this air, and this water around us, something more that is waiting for us.
you can rationalize if you'd like.
i understand, the good lord knows i've tried.
whether there is a god or not, his existence doesn't depend on what you believe, or what i say.
The light of the mind alone can not dispel the whole world's darkness
The choice is yours of course, we all go through periods of darkness
For many of us the road is a difficult one, but the path is always there for us to follow, not matter how many times we may fall
think on it and look in your heart, we have made and kept covenants with our lord god to honor his laws, in exchange we are promised eternal salvation after this life.
in a world filled with misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that, in the end, there is light in the darkness. But this is the waking world in which we live, there is no need to cry, no need to dream, a day will come when our lord comes to judge us, until than, we must honor his laws and start others along the path of salvation if we can.
i will carry the fire of the holy spirit inside, until i stand before my lord for judgement.
I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me.
I fell down into that dark chasm. . . the flame burned on and on.
the fire that had kept me alive, was love.
their love.
gods love.
i will never be able to repay the debt i owe them, but i must try.
thank you for. . . staying with me.
tommorow will be here soon, and there will still be much work to be done, god be with you.
This was so beautifully written it made me cry. Praise Jesus Christ!
"the light of the mind alone cannot dispense the whole worlds darkness" couldnt agree more.
"There is much to be skeptical of in this world. So it no longer surprises me that so many people no longer believe in anything." As an agnostic who struggles with the idea of faith, this qoute hits hard.
You don’t have to struggle with faith, just have it.
all the words from 0:24
"It's been some time since I've visited.. civilized places. I don't have fond memories of them. Too much love of money and ownership, not enough love of God and giving. But I have always seen this places from the outside. Any society that drives it's power and authority from the will of man alone, lives apart from God, and will crumble in the end. This way lies the path to Hell. Of course, love the sinner, hate the sin. Huhuhu, you're not so certain.. fair enough. We all have doubts. Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed, but you can be a Thomas for now, and you'll see the truth.
There is much to be skeptical of in this world, so it no longer surprises me to learn how many people don't really believe in anything. But I believe that our Lord was made flesh as Jesus Christ, and died to redeem me, and you. Everyone. I know it may be hard for you to accept or even to understand, in my heart, I believe that though I am a sinner, I have been saved. And I believe there is something beyond this rock, and this heir, and this water around us. Something more that is waiting for us.
You can rationalize if you'd like. I understand, the good Lord knows I have tried. Whether there is a God or not, his existence doesn't depend on what you believe, or what I say. The light of the mind alone cannot dispel all the world's darkness. The choice is yours, of course. We all go through periods of darkness. For many of us, the road is a difficult one, but the path is always there for us to follow, no matter how many times we may fall. Think on it, and look in your heart. We have made and kept covenings with our lord God to honour his laws, in exchange, we ate promised eternal salvation after this life. In a world filled with misery and uncertainty, it is a great comfort to know that, in the end, there is light in the darkness. But this is the waking world in which we live, there is no need to cry, no need to dream. The day will come when our Lord returns to judge us all. Until then, we must honour his laws and start others along the path of salvation if we can. I will carry the fire of the Holy Spirit inside, until I stand before my lord for judgement. I survive because the fire inside burnt brighter than the fire around me. I fell down into that dark chasm.. the flame burnt on and on. The fire that it kept me alive.. was love. Their love. God's love. I will never be able to repay the debt I owe them, but I must try.
Thank you for.. staying with me. Tomorrow will be here soon, and there is still much work to be done.
God be with you."
Thank you, now I can practice my impression of him without having to rely on lagged subtitles.
@@mylesayres6060 my pleasure
My baby sister and my older brother provided me with enough money to get back home from a foreign land. I will repay them one way or another and this video just reminded me of the Debt I owe and the love that was given.
That knife sharpening got me, put headphones on and you'll hear how crisp that shit is.
A man who knows who he is, wholely and completely, is a man uncorruptable, untouchable by the world around him
"The light of the mind alone canot dispel the darkness of the whole world"
I suddenly want to thank every positive influence in my life. Every show of love and compassion I'm grateful for.
im in a such bad time in my life and everytime i see this video start to cry a lot, it helps me when i want to k me self. i am not a god believer but when i see this man i wish i was. joshua has a big impact in my life, n this video too, god bless the guy who made this video and the creator of character
There is a plan for you, there is light in the darkness friend
Brother the dark evil thoughts you hear are not uncommon. You are not alone and if hearing this kind of content brings about a calling in you. If it brings you a certain amount of peace perhaps you should stop fighting it and search more into christianty to know yourself.
Never judge yourself what's done is done. If you suffer from certain habits and are sick of the constant sin all around you seek God and christ. I am also currently doing the same.
Hang on, you're not alone, we're all gonna make it
A major take-away I have had when it comes to Joshua is that even the most sinful among us, can be redeemed in the end. Pretty amazing that a video game character can relay that, isn't it?
I have not been a man of God, far from it, but the idea of redeeming myself for God in the end is worth the wait. I just pray that I can do so before my story ends, so that I may show others it can be done.
Surrender to Christ, brother. I believe in you.
Same as Paul the apostle in the Bible. Made his living persecuting christians. Killing Christians, burning churches, trying to stomp it out. Yet he was chosen as the founder of the church, the rock on which the church would be built, the foundation.
There are no sinners past redemption. All can be forgiven.
I listen to this video frequently and everytime I feel emotional.
Unfathomably based.
The magnitude of the words of this clip`s title is not to be underestimated. Belief is more important than knowledge. Why? Because once you know, you no longer believe. You are a Knower, not a Believer. And you fool yourself into thinking that what you Know you can Understand. You cannot. Life is a test, this Earth is not our true Home. We are here because we are broken, damaged things. We were not made broken. We broke ourselves by our disobedience. But there is a way back. Unto eternity, perfection, truth. So we are not abandoned.
any society that derives its power and authority from man alone lives apart from god and will crumble in the end is such a raw line and so damn true. im not a christian myself but man do i agree when we stopped believing as a nation we began to crumble and the supports are about to fall but if we revert and i mean now we may be able to survive and thrive again.
Edit: So your boy has begun going to the Greek Orthodox church in my city now because of the videos like this gave me my push eh nice thanks Joshua
It’s a systematic attack on religion for a gnostic religion based on collective consumerist ethics to replace it.
I listen to this daily to keep my newfound faith in gods Grace, I’m grateful to be able to even be in a position to praise god. Peace be with you 🙏
My father passed a month ago from cancer. I'm glad I was able to show him this before his mind went.
He gave the Gospel so well.
Each time I hear this, I sob ..... thank u for the hope u give .... blessings to all who listen
Joshua Graham and the Survivalist are what made the Honest Hearts DLC so wonderful
We are being purposefully demoralised by the evils in charge.
This is really comforting
As someone who wants to improve their writing, I really love finding speeches from well-written characters like Graham and turning the captions on to read along, trying to really figure out what makes it "good" writing. Among many other things, I think what make's Graham's speech so moving is that it isn't there to sell the player on his ideology or to make some kind of statement about religion as a whole, but rather it's Graham simply speaking from the heart about how faith shaped his life. It comes off as a very true and believable statement you'd hear somebody like Graham share around a campfire, or maybe just say into the wind if he thought somebody out there was listening. Graham feels like a real person, rather than a vessel for plot. Thanks for putting this together.
bro i really would love to be as strong and loving as he is.
I have woken and knowing that this is truly possible for all of us by this just opened this is like no other way I can explain how much I need this Amen
Both Joshua and Daniel are my favorite in the whole game. It always reminds me of when I was a starving college student and I was walking around and smelled good bbq. It was a baptist bbq for the church. I was desperate and hungry so I pretended to be a part of the church. The pastor came over and I thought he was gonna kick me out. He instead came and welcomed me and asked if I was hungry he would be happy to give me a plate. Feeling guilty I said I'm sorry I'm not a part of the faith. His reply? "Don't recall asking if we shared faith just that you were hungry. As a pastor I see it a blessing to feed those seeking help and food. So come eat."
I am not a religious person by any means, but lessening to this is vary relaxing and calming.
Part voice, part in the calmness of the words (or the tone of the words).
@@henrypaleveda7760 Both. The calmness and the tone of his voice make this relaxing and calming at the same time. For someone who suffers from anxiety it calming to the mind.
@@henrypaleveda7760 not to mention the voice actor is solid gold. He says every word with some conviction behind it. No meddling around.
Joshua Graham, Bapitized twice once by water and once by fire, once a legionary now an instrument to god's wraith. such a inspiration.
This turned my soul into fire
The best religious extremist ever written
The dlc shows that to properly wield a sword, you must wield a faith. It doesn't matter what faith, but you require some motivation to conquer your obstacles
Amen.
The strongest warriors always have the deepest insights
A Former Mormon, a Former War Monger, a current Justicar for Peace. Such a Well written Character.
This character relit the fire of the good word in me.