She went from performing for her mother to performing for the public. I just hope she is genuinely happy and has therapy with someone who can help ground her into real life
100% this. Without infantilizing her, I think she had very little opportunity to become acclimated to internet culture and dangers before prison. For an average person the sudden internet fame after isolation would be dangerous, but extremely so for someone high-profile with a past of munchausen by proxy abuse
It’s an eye-opening realization when you do consider the fact that her possibilities, more than anything professionally, are so limited. I think we forget that she’ll most likely struggle to find her grounding in the world, and I can only hope that she can heal and live peacefully. She’s complex and layered, so nobody has the right to expect anything from her. Especially since she’s already gone through enough. Excellent video, always a delight!
i think true crime (trauma and pain of others) shouldn’t be dramatized. not in tv shows, movies, or dramatic true crime content. this is someone’s pain. what gives these people the right to create narratives out of the pain of others. it’s disgusting to the victim or survivor. i like factual true crime that isn’t dramatized. anyways random tangent, thanks for reading.
18:25 i find it strange that many people gloss over the guy being disabled. two (iirc) different times he was screened for mental illness he was diagnosed with asd-2 and limited capacity to make decisions due to low iq and other factors. not saying it absolves him of whatever he did, he has to deal with consequences of his own actions, but it's weird how very few people in the true crime realm mention that he has technically limited capabilities to make informed decisions. so saying 'my husband would call cops and not help me kill my mother' when you're aware the guy who agreed to help you is not on the same level of independent thought as most adults. if that makes any sense... i know the whole genre is poisoned by ableism, bootlicking etc, so i guess it's not really that surprising... there's a lot of nuance in this whole thing and i feel like social media discourse very much is not a place to hold nuanced discussions. it's all very b&w, good people can do no wrong, bad people are bad 100% and can't be reformed etc
The idea of the "perfect victim" reminds me a lot of Jaycee Lee Dugard's case. Her first book after being found alive and the trials for her kidnappers was very well received; she talked about her 18 years of being kidnapped, SAed, abused, everything. In her second book though, she wrote about trying to build a life for herself, and doing a lot of things for the first time that most people take for granted; this book was not well received. I think when you're a victim, there is a loud minority (maybe majority) in the true crime space that has expectations of you, and when you don't meet them, then they turn on you. It's cruel and it's performative on the part of the audience to act caring, but ultimately want something from victims. You also see it a lot when victim's family members don't act "sad enough" or give emotional queues at the "right times."
The case of Gypsy Rose lived rent free in my head for years. I was happy to see her get out of prison. But, this? This influencer life? I'm frightened for her. She didn't experience social media's growth organically like many of us have. I can't even imagine how this all feels for her. Losing the right to vote for felons is different in different states. Additionally, in two states, they can vote from prison. Awesome video, thanks!
I feel bad for her. I don’t support her actions but I don’t hate her either considering what she experienced. That being said the best thing for her is for her to be free now that she’s out, but with ALL this attention on her I don’t know if that’s possible. If I were her it would overwhelm me and I’d HATE it. She went from being under her mother’s control to now being under the microscope of millions. I can’t imagine how that would feel
You covered exactly how I felt. While we can sit here and say she didn't deserve any of the abuse, to say what she did was right is also not correct OR what Gypsy seems to want. I saw a tik tok she'd made where she talks about regretting what she did. Any interview of hers she says she misses her mom. I think she is performing in a similar way she did for her mom. Like a trauma response. I fear the same fate for her as parts of Jaycee Dugard's story where she struggled with healing because of the hyper televised response to everything she did. Gypsy doesn't believe what she did was right, and it's weird for people to try to praise her for that.
Also what I feel like is commonly ignored is while you can feel sympathetic to Nick and feel she misled him, he essentially also groomed her and I feel it's safe for her to have those feelings of not necessarily sympathy.
i saw someone be mean to her about buying Zara clothing (i think they support isr*el) like do we really need to expect her to be politically up to date on things she's been kind of busy? and she's not an influencer who we 'need to expect' these things from like she's had a messed up life 😵💫
She's been out of prison for like a day. How dare she not keep up after a decade behind bars Like cmon there needs to be a realistic expectation. Not too highly or too bad
People do that all the time and it pisses me off when they do it to regular everyday people as well. We can't all know everything about every company we make purchases from. Seems like a wierd thing for people to demand accountability for. I understand when its an influencer that's doing a sponsorship or something because they should do research as part of their job, but a middle aged mother of 2 ordering some bibs from an online vendor that once donated to an organization that is anti planned parenthood is crazy lol.
If you guys havent already gypsy rose just released a docu series on lifetime that goes in depth on her life and her story finally told by her Edit: people need to stop asking her to go on trisha paytas podcast thats the last thing she needs ever
It’s insane that people expect her to not regret what happened to her mom, I agree that it was a form of self defence and her mom was a horrid abuser but being involved in taking anyone’s life, especially someone you know very personally would take a huge mental toll on anyone. Idk it just seems obvious that she viewed it as a last resort
thiss. after being so isolated, feeling trapped, afraid that all the meds & surgeries will eventually cause her death.. she might've believed there was no other option at the time. especially after seeing how easily her mother could manipulate family, neighbors, doctors-even the police-with her medical knowledge + a bunch of falsified documents. but at the end of the day, she was still involved in her mother's death. that'll weigh heavily on anyone, no matter how despicable their loved one may have been. some people may be coming from a place of hope, from wishing that their own abusers would meet the same fate somehow bc freedom & justice can be pretty hard to get.. but glorifying actions Gypsy Rose herself, an actual real life person, regrets, calling it 'mothering' & stuff is a bit disturbing.
I really appreciate this balanced look at the situation, especially with the coverage of her ex. There’s so much out there already as a counter narrative about him that because he is autistic he is an innocent that she used as a tool. People love stripping the agency from others and holding up media figures as innocent or guilty when most people are a complex mix of personality and experiences. People love to create a victim or a villain as if the lives of these figures are not real.
Whoa okay-- somehow I missed the aspect of Dee-Dee's infantilization tactic to keep control over Gypsy Rose 😮 I don't remember ever having heard about her mother literally keeping the girl from knowing what her actual own age was 😢 that's so insane and a whole new level of Devious, damn...
She needs a therapist to help guide her through this. This is the first time she has legitimate freedom. She needs to set boundaries and let people know what she needs..
I truly feel like because gypsy was so sheltered that people in the entertainment/ Hollywood/ celebrity industry would use that to there advantage and manipulate gypsy into doing stuff she doesn’t want to. Hopefully if something like that happened her husband would stand up for her
I'm going to predict that the Internet will turn on her eventually. Its what always happens with these Stan-ified mini celebrities, and I really hope it won't effect her too much
I appreciate an actual interesting take on the topic. I also think it's weird that so much of the true crime stuff exists about the case yet I think it's weird no one talks about some of the elements of the case that could help create a change for vulnerable children and adults like Gypsy. For example: I've read some interesting things in the psychology sphere about munchausen by proxy, it seems to be the only condition that is solely a label for a very specific type of abuse that person does which seems weird and damaging. In the UK we had a new precedent set for victims of coersive control where a woman's sentence was changed from murder to manslaughter. It was originally murder because she planned his murder. Its not widely known by our law enforcement yet but coersive control is a type of abuse and hopefully going forward it will mean people like Gypsy get better sentencing.
In at least one children’s hospital they don’t call it that anymore! They call it medical child abuse (in a situation with minors) which is much more descriptive and correct. They are abusers, and they are using both medicine and medical systems to perpetrate it. For adults I think it would simply be medical abuse.
I don't know if this makes anyone feel better but we did have case questions in my countries medical state exam specifically about identifying Münchhausen by proxy for the past few years and we not only discuss this in psychiatry but also pediatrics. If this helps one child from being abused then it is very much worth it.
great video! i think you brought up some great points. i'm also wishing the best for gypsy rose blanchard going forward, but her 'influencerification' is weird and must be incredibly jarring to her as someone coming out of prison into the regular world. in a way, she's not getting the 'normal life' she's expressed she wants any time soon - she was horribly abused, went to jail, and now has the spotlight on her whether she wants it or not :// i hope the internet and the media keep treating her kindly and learn some boundaries. let the woman live!
It's always refreshing to hear abt your views on things! It´s so easy to get carried away mindlessly consuming, but the structure of your videos is always thought provoking
Great points- you nailed it. I hope that she can build a successful platform for her advocacy, and people in her corner will watch out for her and her online virality. (PS in Oregon, where I am from, felons can vote when they are released regardless of their parole status, but not while incarcerated)
I’ve seen a lot of people also turning against her. Which I think is insane because she did her time and she’s a victim. I’ll never understand the expectations people put on victims of this scale that gain crazy publicity. I expect nothing from her other than her finding herself and finally being happy and finding her footing in society.
Ooooo you are spot on Mika! Her cycle is circling around fast. 😮And while i dont think its fair to “stan” her is sucks even more yo watch the turn on her happen so fast.
THis is in general such an interesting case. And I do kind of understand her way of thinking. It is kind of similar to when you are depressed and can only see death as a solution because you are so deep in depression that everything you think and your perception are distorted. With that upbringing - her whole life was a lie - that sort of distortion is bound to happen. I am happy to see though that she could grow from that mess and got some education as well! I hope she continues on this path of growth
I first heard about her story on Kendall Rae’s channel it absolutely broke my heart. Gypsy didn’t deserve the abuse. The whole thing was so heartbreaking.
Felons also have issues with rental applications as well so unless you can buy property (which most won’t be able to even if they can get a job after prison) you’re going to have a rough time with housing as well
I have Watched Tons of UA-camrs Videos on Gypsy Rose, and They are all really saying the Same Exact things Rehashing her Story??? Everyone on SM already knows all of that, What im Saying is Yours Is One of the Best i have Seen Good Job for being different and Better😊
I find this conversation so interesting, and yet the comments saying "she needs to be away from the Internet" are doing _the exact same thing._ Like I get it she hasn't had the time to get used to the Internet but she will. Don't complain about people infantilising her only to do the same thing
the. way my jaw dropped when u said they takes the polls to the jails/prisons in canada. It’s sooooo bad over here in the states if ur a felon it’s automatically can’t vote for life
In Norway there are election debates held in prisons, where the politicians meet for debate in a prison (and it's streamed live at other prisons). You don't really have a right to vote if it can be taken away, and that you can lose your right to vote permanently is wild.
Im go glad to see you uploading content again. Thank you for creating this content & sharing on YT! Your makeup looks hella cute too. I adore the blue eye shadow. It compliments the pink really well.
I have similar story as Gypsy Rose. Mine is a lot less horrific. I ended up falling out with my family and ended up homeless for a little while at 25. I felt free for the first time in a homeless shelter, it was actually a great experience for me. I had huge regrets about not leaving myself and going there earlier. My high school advisor actually recommended it to me, but I was too afraid to leave what I know.
I always find it uncomfortable to talk about G's case simply because her name is a freaking slur. It's not her fault of course, that was one of he rmother's many very bad decisions. But I still cringe so badly anytime I hear or see her name.
when critiquing The Yassification of Matricide™, please allow for the possibility that behind the dark humour of “slay queen” cheers, a lot of the people rooting for Gypsy are themselves victims and/or survivors of ab*se at the hands of their parents/caregivers. there is a vicarious thrill that some “stans” might be experiencing in Gypsy’s personal triumph, as it offers a glimmer of hope, a dream of freedom and justice, for those who feel powerless. for all her flaws, Gypsy is a legitimate hero to many, and they want to embrace her (without condoning or excusing her actions, obviously).
@@MikasRhetoric I just finished the video and I did like your thoughts! You expressed several things I've also noticed or worried about e.g. the stan culture language and fancams, as well as the potential influencer cycle/backlash GRB may receive. I am a victim of abuse from my mom (to a much lesser degree) and have always had sympathy for GRB while understanding that she was involved in a murder. I'm happy that she's out of jail and I think she's doing great at healing and telling her own story! I hope nothing but the best for her and I pray the internet doesn't chew her up and spit her out for not "performing" correctly. Great video, Mika! 🥰
10:25 it's an edit ☝🏻🤓 fancams are videos of k-pop idols performing taken by fans (we use it for videos uploaded by weekly music shows, festivals, concerts, award shows, etc. too)
Humans are capable of understanding context, particularly with names. Her other name is also a plant, should we rip out all the rose gardens in the world? I’m not trying to be mean, just introduce the concept of depth in language and communication. It’s not linear or one-dimensional. Even the n-word does not conform to the parameters you are claiming, as it has acceptable applications in certain contexts.
@@creatrixZBD ... Why the fc would you equate a word used to demean a whole group (that is still being kept from schools, jobs and homes) with _roses_ What. _what_
@@creatrixZBD Also yea language isnt linear but the Rromani sure as sh it are still being oppressed. To the point they cant get schooling. And get hate crimed for wearing their national dress! And still get called that slur instead of ya know. Their actual term! Rromani/Romani! Sir. Ma'am. Mx. Whatever your gender is. I dont... No. N o. Just. _??????_
This perfectly encapsulates that Brooklyn 99 meme, "cool motive, still murder." I think it's wild people are putting her on a pedestal when she egged on her boyfriend to commit murder for her.
I did see a similar-ish reaction when the guy who tried to assassinate Reagan got released but that was mostly jokes and bits, this definitely seems more “””sincere”””
The whole situation is disturbing. Yes she came from an abusive situation, but she DID plan a murder and manipulated someone with a very low IQ to do her bidding. Now people are standing her and calling her queen? It’s horrible. She needs to just live her life in private.
The sheer scale of interest social media has been showing in her has not been sitting well with me. I'm a true crime nut, so it's not like I don't get that aspect of it. But this is surreal to watch in a way. What does this say about us as a society.
This is where an over-interest in “true crime” leads. The “true crime” genre has created this culture of toxic boundary-crossing and entitlement to a say in others’ personal lives. It’s sick.
@@creatrixZBD I really hope she's getting therapy. About her privacy... That's where it gets slightly dicey. She's going to be followed by the media constantly from now on, she has no choice in the matter. Sigh.
As someone who likes true crime, I sometimes hate the community. They remind me of sharks out for blood. They don’t seem to care about victims (not for this case mind you) or the feelings of others in the situation, it’s more the high of accusations and pointing fingers. When I watch or hear about some cases, I need breaks in between due to how much they affect me. I don’t talk to anyone about them either, I stew on it myself. I silently listen and watch and hear their stories. If only more people showed compassion as opposed to a sheer curiosity of morbid fascination. Mind you morbid fascination is normal but when people try to conspire, bud into victim’s lives, or put murderers on pedestals, it’s creepy.
You can’t vote while you’re in prison, but each state varies by when you regain your voting right back after you are released. Some states are longer than other. But it is damaging to say felons can’t vote . More accurately it’s inaccessible/prohibited for a time.
There are a couple of states where you still never gain it back, hence why it varies. And several other states still limit it depending on the crime, where something like murder and/or accessory would seemingly limit that ability. Sorry for my misunderstanding
I’m not a fan of hers she manipulated a slow boy to 86 her mother instead of just getting up out of her wheelchair in front of people and saying something. He’s doing life in prison and she’s out to make a lot of money for herself and I’m sure not help slow boy in anyway. And she was a victim of this woman but there were plenty of other things she could have done besides what she planned and did .
She still participated in a horrible act and crime. She had choices. She chose the most despicable action to give her freedom. Gypsy should still be in prison in my opinion and im disturbed at everyone cheering on Gypsy being in spotlight and her release. She chose to plan un-aliving her mom over any other choice. Very scary state of the world. The last humans we need as influencers are un-alivers and manipulators.
I wonder how long it will be till GRB pulls a George Santos and starts a Cameo and/or OF's ps: I know you're not American, but you've got to know about George Santos if you're at all online.
She went from performing for her mother to performing for the public.
I just hope she is genuinely happy and has therapy with someone who can help ground her into real life
You got a weak mind it’s sad to see when I read your comment
I think it's pretty natural that she would like the attention but privacy is definitely what she needs, the Internet is not safe.
100% this. Without infantilizing her, I think she had very little opportunity to become acclimated to internet culture and dangers before prison. For an average person the sudden internet fame after isolation would be dangerous, but extremely so for someone high-profile with a past of munchausen by proxy abuse
It’s an eye-opening realization when you do consider the fact that her possibilities, more than anything professionally, are so limited. I think we forget that she’ll most likely struggle to find her grounding in the world, and I can only hope that she can heal and live peacefully. She’s complex and layered, so nobody has the right to expect anything from her. Especially since she’s already gone through enough. Excellent video, always a delight!
The Internet tends not to do nuance very well, and this story is full of it.
i just want the best for her truly. she seems so kind for someone who has suffered so much. i hope the internet remains kind to her.
i think true crime (trauma and pain of others) shouldn’t be dramatized. not in tv shows, movies, or dramatic true crime content. this is someone’s pain. what gives these people the right to create narratives out of the pain of others. it’s disgusting to the victim or survivor. i like factual true crime that isn’t dramatized. anyways random tangent, thanks for reading.
18:25 i find it strange that many people gloss over the guy being disabled. two (iirc) different times he was screened for mental illness he was diagnosed with asd-2 and limited capacity to make decisions due to low iq and other factors. not saying it absolves him of whatever he did, he has to deal with consequences of his own actions, but it's weird how very few people in the true crime realm mention that he has technically limited capabilities to make informed decisions. so saying 'my husband would call cops and not help me kill my mother' when you're aware the guy who agreed to help you is not on the same level of independent thought as most adults. if that makes any sense... i know the whole genre is poisoned by ableism, bootlicking etc, so i guess it's not really that surprising... there's a lot of nuance in this whole thing and i feel like social media discourse very much is not a place to hold nuanced discussions. it's all very b&w, good people can do no wrong, bad people are bad 100% and can't be reformed etc
Omg I got two membership mentions? Yassing LOL
Don’t worry they’ve moved on to the snark sub now for her.
For Gypsy Rose??
The idea of the "perfect victim" reminds me a lot of Jaycee Lee Dugard's case. Her first book after being found alive and the trials for her kidnappers was very well received; she talked about her 18 years of being kidnapped, SAed, abused, everything. In her second book though, she wrote about trying to build a life for herself, and doing a lot of things for the first time that most people take for granted; this book was not well received. I think when you're a victim, there is a loud minority (maybe majority) in the true crime space that has expectations of you, and when you don't meet them, then they turn on you. It's cruel and it's performative on the part of the audience to act caring, but ultimately want something from victims. You also see it a lot when victim's family members don't act "sad enough" or give emotional queues at the "right times."
I'm happy that she's free, but the internet is waaaay too obsessed with her. What she needs right now is privacy and therapy.
Don’t worry, here at the internet, we the audience never have to take accountability for ourselves. It’s the ultimate power move 😅
@@creatrixZBD😭😭😭
She's free to stop doing SM & interviews 😉
The case of Gypsy Rose lived rent free in my head for years. I was happy to see her get out of prison. But, this? This influencer life? I'm frightened for her. She didn't experience social media's growth organically like many of us have. I can't even imagine how this all feels for her.
Losing the right to vote for felons is different in different states. Additionally, in two states, they can vote from prison.
Awesome video, thanks!
@@simeongates2489 I, sadly, saw at least one in this comment section.
Influencer culture is hard for people who have been around for it's development. She doesn't have a chance.
I feel bad for her. I don’t support her actions but I don’t hate her either considering what she experienced. That being said the best thing for her is for her to be free now that she’s out, but with ALL this attention on her I don’t know if that’s possible. If I were her it would overwhelm me and I’d HATE it. She went from being under her mother’s control to now being under the microscope of millions. I can’t imagine how that would feel
Like you I remember when it happened and have followed along. Gipsy said it herself to Dr Phil she never got the help she needed I prison.
You covered exactly how I felt. While we can sit here and say she didn't deserve any of the abuse, to say what she did was right is also not correct OR what Gypsy seems to want. I saw a tik tok she'd made where she talks about regretting what she did. Any interview of hers she says she misses her mom. I think she is performing in a similar way she did for her mom. Like a trauma response. I fear the same fate for her as parts of Jaycee Dugard's story where she struggled with healing because of the hyper televised response to everything she did.
Gypsy doesn't believe what she did was right, and it's weird for people to try to praise her for that.
Also what I feel like is commonly ignored is while you can feel sympathetic to Nick and feel she misled him, he essentially also groomed her and I feel it's safe for her to have those feelings of not necessarily sympathy.
i saw someone be mean to her about buying Zara clothing (i think they support isr*el) like do we really need to expect her to be politically up to date on things she's been kind of busy? and she's not an influencer who we 'need to expect' these things from like she's had a messed up life 😵💫
She's been out of prison for like a day. How dare she not keep up after a decade behind bars
Like cmon there needs to be a realistic expectation. Not too highly or too bad
People do that all the time and it pisses me off when they do it to regular everyday people as well. We can't all know everything about every company we make purchases from. Seems like a wierd thing for people to demand accountability for. I understand when its an influencer that's doing a sponsorship or something because they should do research as part of their job, but a middle aged mother of 2 ordering some bibs from an online vendor that once donated to an organization that is anti planned parenthood is crazy lol.
If you guys havent already gypsy rose just released a docu series on lifetime that goes in depth on her life and her story finally told by her
Edit: people need to stop asking her to go on trisha paytas podcast thats the last thing she needs ever
People trying to arrange their entertainment. Such entitlement
People need to leave that woman alone and let her heal. Seeing people call her "mother" irks me.
people won't do that alot of people don't support what she did
It’s insane that people expect her to not regret what happened to her mom, I agree that it was a form of self defence and her mom was a horrid abuser but being involved in taking anyone’s life, especially someone you know very personally would take a huge mental toll on anyone. Idk it just seems obvious that she viewed it as a last resort
thiss. after being so isolated, feeling trapped, afraid that all the meds & surgeries will eventually cause her death.. she might've believed there was no other option at the time. especially after seeing how easily her mother could manipulate family, neighbors, doctors-even the police-with her medical knowledge + a bunch of falsified documents.
but at the end of the day, she was still involved in her mother's death. that'll weigh heavily on anyone, no matter how despicable their loved one may have been. some people may be coming from a place of hope, from wishing that their own abusers would meet the same fate somehow bc freedom & justice can be pretty hard to get.. but glorifying actions Gypsy Rose herself, an actual real life person, regrets, calling it 'mothering' & stuff is a bit disturbing.
I really appreciate this balanced look at the situation, especially with the coverage of her ex. There’s so much out there already as a counter narrative about him that because he is autistic he is an innocent that she used as a tool. People love stripping the agency from others and holding up media figures as innocent or guilty when most people are a complex mix of personality and experiences. People love to create a victim or a villain as if the lives of these figures are not real.
Whoa okay-- somehow I missed the aspect of Dee-Dee's infantilization tactic to keep control over Gypsy Rose 😮 I don't remember ever having heard about her mother literally keeping the girl from knowing what her actual own age was 😢 that's so insane and a whole new level of Devious, damn...
“But she likes the attention!”
No, she likes not being isolated for the first time in her goddamn life, LET HER BREATHE.
She needs a therapist to help guide her through this. This is the first time she has legitimate freedom.
She needs to set boundaries and let people know what she needs..
I'm so worried about the inevitability of people turning on her for some misstep
I truly feel like because gypsy was so sheltered that people in the entertainment/ Hollywood/ celebrity industry would use that to there advantage and manipulate gypsy into doing stuff she doesn’t want to. Hopefully if something like that happened her husband would stand up for her
I'm going to predict that the Internet will turn on her eventually. Its what always happens with these Stan-ified mini celebrities, and I really hope it won't effect her too much
I appreciate an actual interesting take on the topic. I also think it's weird that so much of the true crime stuff exists about the case yet I think it's weird no one talks about some of the elements of the case that could help create a change for vulnerable children and adults like Gypsy. For example:
I've read some interesting things in the psychology sphere about munchausen by proxy, it seems to be the only condition that is solely a label for a very specific type of abuse that person does which seems weird and damaging.
In the UK we had a new precedent set for victims of coersive control where a woman's sentence was changed from murder to manslaughter. It was originally murder because she planned his murder. Its not widely known by our law enforcement yet but coersive control is a type of abuse and hopefully going forward it will mean people like Gypsy get better sentencing.
In at least one children’s hospital they don’t call it that anymore! They call it medical child abuse (in a situation with minors) which is much more descriptive and correct. They are abusers, and they are using both medicine and medical systems to perpetrate it. For adults I think it would simply be medical abuse.
@@tvcity56 that is really promising to hear 👏
I don't know if this makes anyone feel better but we did have case questions in my countries medical state exam specifically about identifying Münchhausen by proxy for the past few years and we not only discuss this in psychiatry but also pediatrics. If this helps one child from being abused then it is very much worth it.
great video! i think you brought up some great points. i'm also wishing the best for gypsy rose blanchard going forward, but her 'influencerification' is weird and must be incredibly jarring to her as someone coming out of prison into the regular world. in a way, she's not getting the 'normal life' she's expressed she wants any time soon - she was horribly abused, went to jail, and now has the spotlight on her whether she wants it or not :// i hope the internet and the media keep treating her kindly and learn some boundaries. let the woman live!
It's always refreshing to hear abt your views on things! It´s so easy to get carried away mindlessly consuming, but the structure of your videos is always thought provoking
mika gurl ur channel is criminally underrated ! i can’t stop watching ur vids
Great points- you nailed it. I hope that she can build a successful platform for her advocacy, and people in her corner will watch out for her and her online virality. (PS in Oregon, where I am from, felons can vote when they are released regardless of their parole status, but not while incarcerated)
I’ve seen a lot of people also turning against her. Which I think is insane because she did her time and she’s a victim. I’ll never understand the expectations people put on victims of this scale that gain crazy publicity. I expect nothing from her other than her finding herself and finally being happy and finding her footing in society.
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Ooooo you are spot on Mika! Her cycle is circling around fast. 😮And while i dont think its fair to “stan” her is sucks even more yo watch the turn on her happen so fast.
THis is in general such an interesting case. And I do kind of understand her way of thinking. It is kind of similar to when you are depressed and can only see death as a solution because you are so deep in depression that everything you think and your perception are distorted. With that upbringing - her whole life was a lie - that sort of distortion is bound to happen. I am happy to see though that she could grow from that mess and got some education as well! I hope she continues on this path of growth
Gypsy said it herself to Dr. Phil she didnt get the help she needs, To me. Thats where she needs to start. Not on utube tik tok or where ever.
I first heard about her story on Kendall Rae’s channel it absolutely broke my heart. Gypsy didn’t deserve the abuse. The whole thing was so heartbreaking.
Felons also have issues with rental applications as well so unless you can buy property (which most won’t be able to even if they can get a job after prison) you’re going to have a rough time with housing as well
i didn't have 'nick viall of bachelor (in)fame will interview gypsy rose blanchard on his (medicore af) podcast' on my 2024 bingo card
I have Watched Tons of UA-camrs Videos on Gypsy Rose, and They are all really saying the Same Exact things Rehashing her Story??? Everyone on SM already knows all of that, What im Saying is Yours Is One of the Best i have Seen Good Job for being different and Better😊
I find this conversation so interesting, and yet the comments saying "she needs to be away from the Internet" are doing _the exact same thing._ Like I get it she hasn't had the time to get used to the Internet but she will. Don't complain about people infantilising her only to do the same thing
Hmm that is a good point that I've not come across yet.
the. way my jaw dropped when u said they takes the polls to the jails/prisons in canada. It’s sooooo bad over here in the states if ur a felon it’s automatically can’t vote for life
In Norway there are election debates held in prisons, where the politicians meet for debate in a prison (and it's streamed live at other prisons).
You don't really have a right to vote if it can be taken away, and that you can lose your right to vote permanently is wild.
Im go glad to see you uploading content again. Thank you for creating this content & sharing on YT! Your makeup looks hella cute too. I adore the blue eye shadow. It compliments the pink really well.
Thank you so much 🥹🥹🩷🩷🩷
I have similar story as Gypsy Rose. Mine is a lot less horrific. I ended up falling out with my family and ended up homeless for a little while at 25. I felt free for the first time in a homeless shelter, it was actually a great experience for me. I had huge regrets about not leaving myself and going there earlier. My high school advisor actually recommended it to me, but I was too afraid to leave what I know.
15:18 Since Charles Manson wasn't meant to profit off of his legacy and many others have and will he has mentioned this before.
I always find it uncomfortable to talk about G's case simply because her name is a freaking slur. It's not her fault of course, that was one of he rmother's many very bad decisions. But I still cringe so badly anytime I hear or see her name.
same. roma activists have been trying to educate people to stop using it... for decades :(
I fully read “satannification” and was like, why did she spell it with 2 n’s ahahhaa
your eye makeup always eats but today it really licks the plate clean, thank you
Any chance she gets she throws Nick under the bus.
Off topic, but your makeup looks really beautiful today! The colours are super cute
Good video. Nice tone and depth on this one ❤
when critiquing The Yassification of Matricide™, please allow for the possibility that behind the dark humour of “slay queen” cheers, a lot of the people rooting for Gypsy are themselves victims and/or survivors of ab*se at the hands of their parents/caregivers. there is a vicarious thrill that some “stans” might be experiencing in Gypsy’s personal triumph, as it offers a glimmer of hope, a dream of freedom and justice, for those who feel powerless. for all her flaws, Gypsy is a legitimate hero to many, and they want to embrace her (without condoning or excusing her actions, obviously).
I hope she knows she doesn't have to do all this.
I sang a little song when I got the notification for this! Ever since you mentioned this on stream, I've been eager to hear your thoughts!
I hope you like my thoughts!!
@@MikasRhetoric I just finished the video and I did like your thoughts! You expressed several things I've also noticed or worried about e.g. the stan culture language and fancams, as well as the potential influencer cycle/backlash GRB may receive.
I am a victim of abuse from my mom (to a much lesser degree) and have always had sympathy for GRB while understanding that she was involved in a murder. I'm happy that she's out of jail and I think she's doing great at healing and telling her own story! I hope nothing but the best for her and I pray the internet doesn't chew her up and spit her out for not "performing" correctly. Great video, Mika! 🥰
10:25 it's an edit ☝🏻🤓
fancams are videos of k-pop idols performing taken by fans (we use it for videos uploaded by weekly music shows, festivals, concerts, award shows, etc. too)
Pumped to hear your thoughts on this!!
Thank you!
Letsgoo mika video!
I'm excited for you to talk about this!!
Thank you!!
Her name is like being drop kicked everytime. Because g psy is a slur so ita a bit like
Ya know, the n word being someone's name-
Humans are capable of understanding context, particularly with names. Her other name is also a plant, should we rip out all the rose gardens in the world? I’m not trying to be mean, just introduce the concept of depth in language and communication. It’s not linear or one-dimensional. Even the n-word does not conform to the parameters you are claiming, as it has acceptable applications in certain contexts.
@@creatrixZBD ... Why the fc would you equate a word used to demean a whole group (that is still being kept from schools, jobs and homes) with _roses_
What. _what_
@@creatrixZBD Please. Please explain to me how ROSES can be equated with RACIAL AND ETHNIC SLURS
@@creatrixZBD Also yea language isnt linear but the Rromani sure as sh it are still being oppressed. To the point they cant get schooling. And get hate crimed for wearing their national dress!
And still get called that slur instead of ya know. Their actual term! Rromani/Romani!
Sir. Ma'am. Mx. Whatever your gender is.
I dont... No. N o. Just. _??????_
@@creatrixZBDyou are unhinged.
This perfectly encapsulates that Brooklyn 99 meme, "cool motive, still murder." I think it's wild people are putting her on a pedestal when she egged on her boyfriend to commit murder for her.
I did see a similar-ish reaction when the guy who tried to assassinate Reagan got released but that was mostly jokes and bits, this definitely seems more “””sincere”””
I been waiting for u to make a video on her but all I could focus on was ur eye makeup miss ma’am u look saur good!
I clicked so fast! Lmao.
Be back to comment more after I watch
I’m waiting eagerly 🫡
mika ur makeup is always so good babes
your makeup in this video is so cute! i lovelovelove
It feels like a super dark episode of Black Mirror
This eye look on you is 😍
The whole situation is disturbing. Yes she came from an abusive situation, but she DID plan a murder and manipulated someone with a very low IQ to do her bidding. Now people are standing her and calling her queen? It’s horrible. She needs to just live her life in private.
The sheer scale of interest social media has been showing in her has not been sitting well with me. I'm a true crime nut, so it's not like I don't get that aspect of it. But this is surreal to watch in a way. What does this say about us as a society.
This is where an over-interest in “true crime” leads. The “true crime” genre has created this culture of toxic boundary-crossing and entitlement to a say in others’ personal lives. It’s sick.
@@creatrixZBD I really hope she's getting therapy. About her privacy... That's where it gets slightly dicey. She's going to be followed by the media constantly from now on, she has no choice in the matter. Sigh.
As someone who likes true crime, I sometimes hate the community. They remind me of sharks out for blood. They don’t seem to care about victims (not for this case mind you) or the feelings of others in the situation, it’s more the high of accusations and pointing fingers. When I watch or hear about some cases, I need breaks in between due to how much they affect me. I don’t talk to anyone about them either, I stew on it myself. I silently listen and watch and hear their stories. If only more people showed compassion as opposed to a sheer curiosity of morbid fascination. Mind you morbid fascination is normal but when people try to conspire, bud into victim’s lives, or put murderers on pedestals, it’s creepy.
Am I crazy or does the thumb nail not read correctly
I fixed it 👀
You can’t vote while you’re in prison, but each state varies by when you regain your voting right back after you are released. Some states are longer than other. But it is damaging to say felons can’t vote . More accurately it’s inaccessible/prohibited for a time.
There are a couple of states where you still never gain it back, hence why it varies. And several other states still limit it depending on the crime, where something like murder and/or accessory would seemingly limit that ability. Sorry for my misunderstanding
I’m not a fan of hers she manipulated a slow boy to 86 her mother instead of just getting up out of her wheelchair in front of people and saying something. He’s doing life in prison and she’s out to make a lot of money for herself and I’m sure not help slow boy in anyway. And she was a victim of this woman but there were plenty of other things she could have done besides what she planned and did .
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She still participated in a horrible act and crime. She had choices. She chose the most despicable action to give her freedom. Gypsy should still be in prison in my opinion and im disturbed at everyone cheering on Gypsy being in spotlight and her release. She chose to plan un-aliving her mom over any other choice. Very scary state of the world. The last humans we need as influencers are un-alivers and manipulators.
Creepy and telling, it’s just a step under the Chris Watts fan girlies. She deserves privacy and should run to it imo.
Did you really just compare this to fans of a family annihilator???
@@aliceincompton I think romanticizing violence and trauma is wrong and people making it anything less than pain and horror are weird af
I wonder how long it will be till GRB pulls a George Santos and starts a Cameo and/or OF's
ps: I know you're not American, but you've got to know about George Santos if you're at all online.
I know about George unfortunately
@@MikasRhetoric*unfortunately* 💯 exactly. I'm English. I also know about George unfortunately.