What is Happening with Raw Beauty Kristi - (An Educator's Perspective)

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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  • @MikasRhetoric
    @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +226

    CORRECTION: ** Kristi’s sister had a stillbirth, the other child is fine. All I was finding when reading was ‘her sisters child passed’ but I never even heard that she was pregnant again, so I misunderstood. Will also correct verbally in next video! **

    • @melissagayheart7716
      @melissagayheart7716 2 місяці тому +3

      @MikasRhetoric that's understandable, lol it's hard to keep track or research every little thing I'm sure If I was a utuber I'd be getting a lot of stuff wrong lol 😁

    • @SarahMargaretMullen
      @SarahMargaretMullen 2 місяці тому +5

      I actually made the same assumption at the time.

    • @jamielaufenberg4043
      @jamielaufenberg4043 2 місяці тому +2

      She covered it when she said why she's gaining weight. It was the video when she said she'd start being healthier

    • @SarahMargaretMullen
      @SarahMargaretMullen 2 місяці тому

      @@jamielaufenberg4043 I stopped watching her about 2 or 3 years ago. I couldn't put my finger on it at the time, but I had a weird gut feeling something was off. I didn't enjoy watching her anymore.

    • @SarahMargaretMullen
      @SarahMargaretMullen 2 місяці тому

      @@jamielaufenberg4043 I stopped watching her about 2 or 3 years ago. I couldn't put my finger on it at the time, but I had a weird gut feeling something was off. I didn't enjoy watching her anymore.

  • @toericabaker
    @toericabaker 2 місяці тому +1336

    she's not a "homesteader" she's a millionaire cosplayer that's cosplaying a country life

    • @zebrachickie0016
      @zebrachickie0016 2 місяці тому +75

      beauty guru kid rock lol

    • @Keepitpink
      @Keepitpink 2 місяці тому +130

      Not a Kristi defender by any means, but country life isn’t synonymous with being “poor”. There are plenty of wealthy people who choose to live a life outside of the city. Ranch owners and those who run successful farms and homesteads can be extremely wealthy.

    • @once.upon.a.time.
      @once.upon.a.time. 2 місяці тому +11

      What would qualify as a homesteader to you then? Or someone who lives a country life?

    • @toericabaker
      @toericabaker 2 місяці тому +66

      ​@@Keepitpink I disagree. IMO homesteading is pioneering and working a piece of land yourself...it's tough work, and yeah, poor work. Otherise you're just a LAND DEVELOPER with $$$$$$$

    • @hemlocklatte
      @hemlocklatte 2 місяці тому +22

      When I toured Versailles, the tour guide basically described Marie Antoinette's fake farm village that way lol

  • @ophie-dokie
    @ophie-dokie 2 місяці тому +257

    RIGHT THERE WITH YOU HOMESCHOOL HATER. thank you bestie lmao. I was homeschooled the entire way through, no preschool no high school. I hate how much people feel the need to soften on homeschooling just because public schooling isn't great. It's definitely better than people who didn't have to have any training being the only adult their kid is ever around. So many people homeschool just so their kids aren't ever around a mandated reporter, 100% the case in my experience.

    • @ophie-dokie
      @ophie-dokie 2 місяці тому +32

      the worst teacher goes in with 10x the knowledge Kristi does YES

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +33

      Where I live homeschools MUST follow provincial curriculum with 2 monthly check ins at a local board or certified educator. So that type isn’t the end of the world, but there is still all the isolation issue stuff

    • @ophie-dokie
      @ophie-dokie 2 місяці тому +20

      @@MikasRhetoric it's so state to state here what kind of guidelines there are for homeschoolers that I was "graduated" down in Arkansas where there's absolutely no standards and you don't have to have any kind of curriculum or proficiency tests but then I moved up to the northeast and tried to apply to community college and they were like "Okay, so this is just a printed off piece of paper, where's the certification?" and wouldn't let me apply!! I have to get my GED now because even though I asked my parents to let me keep taking the grade tests as soon as you age out of needing to do that in like middle school in Arkansas all you have to do is let the superintendent of the local school know your kid won't be there and nobody checks in at all. And even when we lived in a state where they did make you take end of grade tests, they would just mail them to us and we would do them at home, honor system that they're timed or not looking up the answers or whatever as far as them getting sent out and then returned because we didn't have to go take them at a center or anything, and I distinctly remember my sister getting a 0 on her math portion and nothing was done to hold her back or make sure she learned, she "graduated early" the next year because all homeschool kids "graduate early" because it means our parents got sick of pretending they were doing school lol

    • @ophie-dokie
      @ophie-dokie 2 місяці тому +12

      "theyre probably just going to teach them how to pray and hate gay people" 😭😭😭😭😭 absolute banger of a video i love your homeschool takes this is so fun to hear someone say from the educator perspective because I'm always saying similar from the kid who didn't get to have an education perspective when I complain about this shit in my real life lol

    • @ophie-dokie
      @ophie-dokie 2 місяці тому +2

      oh i love seeing your notes your handwriting is very nice this video is great. Just commenting as I watch because the friend I usually watch videos with is at work lol thank you for this video it's really great

  • @jacquelineegomez
    @jacquelineegomez Місяць тому +3

    saying this as someone whose parents are preachers and I was raised in church, I am dyslexic and they “healed” me with prayer and never gave me appropriate therapy. I just got into UCLA and believe me when I say I had to fight like hell to retake classes and fix old bad grades to get where I am now. They severely handicapped me in a way I need therapy for today.

  • @jkopf927
    @jkopf927 2 місяці тому +4

    I watched Peter’s and Audra’s videos (both great) but really enjoyed your perspective. Beyond the exemptions you mentioned, children don’t need to be homeschooled. It screams indoctrination.

  • @JenniferKingStudios
    @JenniferKingStudios 2 місяці тому +2

    I was homeschooled, it held me back so much in life.

  • @emmabrigham4211
    @emmabrigham4211 2 місяці тому +2

    LOVE THIS VIDEO LOVE LOVE LOVE!!!! You are speaking about something that is so unbelievably important, as an educator it’s so disheartening to see how little respect we are given when we are the foundation of America. “Do you want a doctor who never went to school?” THIS!!!! People assume doctors are smarter than teachers because they “went through more school” and have a higher paying job but they literally couldn’t have done that without teachers!!! It’s exhausting how little respect educators are given when they are literally forming each of their students into intelligent, well rounded individuals. None of us would be here without teachers, I wouldn’t even be able to type this without teachers and it’s really crazy to me how little people understand that.

  • @alexismerlo4521
    @alexismerlo4521 2 місяці тому +2

    The almond / crunchy mom to antivax to alt right pipeline is so real and SO FAST.

  • @vapiddreamscape
    @vapiddreamscape 2 місяці тому +2

    low-key shocked no one will pay for a diss on this topic. honestly give it a couple years imo

  • @greeneyedsoutherngirl6468
    @greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 2 місяці тому +3

    Had to come here after Peter’s video. It didn’t disappoint ❤️

  • @AceyBeeArt
    @AceyBeeArt 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't work in education and don't have any children in my life so this isn't something I've really thought about. Thanks for talking about it! Feel like I really learned something and really do appreciate you're take on this. Homeschooling did always feel weird to me. My parents could barely help me with homework, let alone teach me much past the basics of any subject.
    Feel bad for these kids. They are being set up for a mess of an adulthood

  • @sofiesusi
    @sofiesusi 2 місяці тому +2

    I was literally about to google if homeschooling is legal in germany as you said it isn't
    I was pretty sure it wasn't since germany has anyway strict school laws. Also my sister is an educator in germany and it literally took 7 years for her to be allowed to teach a class and 3 more for her to be allowed to teach alone without supervision

  • @fizzy8367
    @fizzy8367 2 місяці тому +1

    So true! Homeschooling is scary especially when I meet parents who don’t know basic things about the world around them and I learn they are teaching their children. Just cause you can do something doesn’t mean you can do it well or even understand the reason why you are doing it. I encounter this with my profession too because yes, everyone can garden but my job exists because there is science in horticulture and people don’t understand it a lot of times. A lot of people dont think that I had to get a degree to have my job because there is a lack of respect or understanding for the process of some things.

  • @erika2m16
    @erika2m16 2 місяці тому +2

    Love the Trevor Project. They're a great organization! You're an angel

  • @shoopidly5249
    @shoopidly5249 2 місяці тому +769

    My husband's mom didn't want him to have meds for his ADHD as a kid, so she gave him a natural supplement and convinced him he was allergic to coffee and mint for a decade bc they would conteract the supplement. Due to intense bullying in kindergarten, she homeschooled him until 10th grade. He had never written an essay longer than 3 sentences until then and barely passed his senior "thesis" (it was a glorified book report). He wasn't allowed to learn anything about chemistry bc his mom was too afraid he'd be competent at it and start making explosives or something. The person teaching can just determine so much.

    • @rachaeld8544
      @rachaeld8544 2 місяці тому +45

      Oh wow this sounds a lot like my little brother who was homeschooled (I was too). I hope your husband overcame this and is doing better now!!

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion 2 місяці тому

      It's weird how Christian fundie homeschooling regimes are so ignorant they're barbaric. Reminds me of how Furiosa was treated or sumn wild like that

    • @baddie1shoe
      @baddie1shoe 2 місяці тому +2

      👀

    • @littleblackpistol
      @littleblackpistol 2 місяці тому +13

      How did he right himself after all this? Did he have to attend intensive re-education courses as an adult to make him literate enough to work in the adult world?

    • @coffee8599
      @coffee8599 2 місяці тому

      YES. I can't stand uneducated people homeschooling kids to keep them isolated.

  • @isuck200
    @isuck200 2 місяці тому +321

    I was homeschooled and failed severely. My mom couldn't raise two babies and an autistic kid grades behind where he should've been. I still suffer greatly from it in my 20s.
    I also don't get how these parents think they can guard their kids from topics like racism and LGBT+, their kids will find out. I was the only kid in my entire family to be " homeschooled" and ended up being the most queer one. Sheltering your kids does way more damage than parents realize.

    • @baddie1shoe
      @baddie1shoe 2 місяці тому +1

      ☠️

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 2 місяці тому

      It's so disturbing how all these conservative, homeschooling parents think they can hide and protect their kids from everything they themselves disagreee with. They're just raising illiterate kids, homeschooling should be illegal, I mainly see crazy, narcissistic, controlling, abusive parents honeschool. They really think they can control their kids rest of their lives, I hope all these kids rebel because of the control.

    • @alexismerlo4521
      @alexismerlo4521 2 місяці тому +2

      Right? Unless you keep your child locked away forever with zero access to novels, Internet, news, friends, and TV, there is no way they will not be exposed to it. Why do they act like it's so contagious? Is it because they know they're wrong somewhere deep down and know their child will realize it if they're exposed, and then see their parent in a negative light?

    • @baddie1shoe
      @baddie1shoe 2 місяці тому +4

      @@isuck200 honestly homeschooling causes gayness I read

    • @ashleyduckworthyt3224
      @ashleyduckworthyt3224 2 місяці тому +1

      @@baddie1shoethis made me laugh so hard 😂

  • @dianapacilio2729
    @dianapacilio2729 2 місяці тому +744

    ngl she gave me the ick when she would constantly complain about infertility and refused to even consider adoption, saying she'd never be a "real mom." I understand the struggles of fertility and do not diminish those who want biological kids, but stating that "real" motherhood is only through biological children is just disrespectful. Idk.

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk 2 місяці тому +138

      Most people are like her. They just want biological miniatures and not the experience of raising a child.

    • @dianapacilio2729
      @dianapacilio2729 2 місяці тому +45

      I'm also a service coordinator working with kids who fall through the cracks like this and have a masters in social work. Everything Mika says is 100% correct and I'm grateful she is able to speak on this from such a high level place. (just finished the video :))

    • @LedyE
      @LedyE 2 місяці тому +63

      Is this some conservative virtue? My mother thinks that too and she's deep into the christian right.
      But also they want to ban abortion letting all those unwanted babies to be born yet they doesn't want to adopt

    • @dianapacilio2729
      @dianapacilio2729 2 місяці тому

      @@LedyE it’s definitely a talking point for TERFs and pro lifers so I wouldn’t be surprised.

    • @MeghanBean
      @MeghanBean 2 місяці тому +13

      @@Aster_Risk always the people no one needs more of too 🙄

  • @grittysurrealism
    @grittysurrealism 2 місяці тому +834

    Naomi Klein called it “wellness eugenics” and Natalie Wynn called it “granola fascism”. Im glad to see you covering how it’s linked to homeschooling without throwing disabled people under the bus

    • @wooogie672
      @wooogie672 2 місяці тому +121

      “granola fascism” is very fitting because the inventor of granola was a well-known eugenicist 😭

    • @grittysurrealism
      @grittysurrealism 2 місяці тому +30

      @@wooogie672 that makes it even better! I’m gonna assume Natalie Wynn knew that when she picked it, but I didn’t

    • @mayaswaminathan8023
      @mayaswaminathan8023 2 місяці тому +58

      The podcast Maintenance Phase has an episode where they talk about the Wellness to Qanon Pipeline, which is a topic that is tangential to this.

    • @grittysurrealism
      @grittysurrealism 2 місяці тому

      @@mayaswaminathan8023 it's a good introduction! I'm disabled so I have just become very good at picking up on the eugenics lol

    • @bonebae8173
      @bonebae8173 2 місяці тому

      @@mayaswaminathan8023 I really have to get on this podcast train. I've seen this one recommended a couple of times now, and particularly this episode you mention.

  • @oberyncarzer5620
    @oberyncarzer5620 2 місяці тому +658

    Thanks for covering this, Mika! Her behaviour and unhinged descent into fundie crunchy mom territory has been horrifying to watch.

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +62

      It’s has been shocking for sure

    • @MylingCyrus
      @MylingCyrus 2 місяці тому +87

      Once she gave birth and immediately started to be a mommy vlogger I dipped immediately. I knew her intentions from there

    • @ZayabelDraga13
      @ZayabelDraga13 2 місяці тому +36

      @@MylingCyrusyeah I cringed about it. I wanted to support her as she was going through her post partum, but I stopped liking her videos after a while. Especially pertaining to her connections with certain beauty creators.

    • @elinorbee6693
      @elinorbee6693 2 місяці тому +3

      @@MylingCyrusexactly what i did too i didn’t watch any beautytubers other than he bc she was so funny and relatable while she did her makeup and stories, her pregnancy was such a inspiring moment however quickly fell off after the mommyvlogging just rly put me off

  • @xjustxjustinex
    @xjustxjustinex 2 місяці тому +717

    I truly believe there is an epidemic of untreated, severe postpartum mental illness that is making new moms fall down the crunchy/conservative rabbit hole.

    • @Lilah-Violet
      @Lilah-Violet 2 місяці тому +111

      That makes so much sense, especially for people who had their babies during the pandemic like Kristi did. Uncontrolled fears and anxieties just spiraling into conspiracy theories and extreme measures.

    • @thatgirlbrinna7927
      @thatgirlbrinna7927 2 місяці тому +35

      @@Lilah-VioletI strongly disagree agree. There are so many women of color living in the hood and witnessing violence every day and a lot of them very young mothers. And there not conservative, or don’t act this way.

    • @Yamainthejar
      @Yamainthejar 2 місяці тому

      Mental illness doesn't magically make you racist or bigoted. She had previous controversies over racist behaviour, not to mention she had no issue hanging out with other racists, and people like you always downplayed it by insisting "it was so long ago and not that big of a deal". Funny how people always manage to come up with a way to excuse bad behaviour instead of holding bigots responsible for the things they say and do.

    • @MeghanBean
      @MeghanBean 2 місяці тому

      yep yep yeppp

    • @Alayne985
      @Alayne985 2 місяці тому +52

      @@thatgirlbrinna7927right. When you witness violence every day, you are desensitized to it.
      That is a completely different situation to having postpartum anxiety and then having a super easy cultural pipeline from being an anxious, super crunchy mom of a baby, to homesteading, to anti-vax, to super conservative conspiracy theorist.
      That isn't a pipeline that exists in the situation you are talking about.

  • @bugbug75
    @bugbug75 2 місяці тому +1191

    Once she refused to speak against James Charles plus her clear slip into conservative homesteader content, it was clear she wasn't who she used to be.

    • @user-mv5zt8qd9l
      @user-mv5zt8qd9l 2 місяці тому +179

      The weird nature of conservative-leaning people simultaneously being upset at LGBT "grooming" of kids while also refusing to speak out against the _real_ grooming of kids (IE, James Charles being boastful of liking younger men and then getting caught sexting them repeatedly) is still bizarre to me, just in how universally it appears.

    • @FabiolaRVela
      @FabiolaRVela 2 місяці тому +75

      Maybe she was this way all along? And just hid it well 🤷‍♀️

    • @elvingearmasterirma7241
      @elvingearmasterirma7241 2 місяці тому +103

      @@user-mv5zt8qd9l Its because they dont actually care about the safety of kids. They just use kids as a political tool

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 2 місяці тому +7

      Dramageddon Ouroboros Omni-Shambles ripple onward!

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion 2 місяці тому

      ​@user-mv5zt8qd9l the same people who want to eradicate public education funding and hoard wealth instead of donating to the homeless lol. They care about THEIR kids (most of the time)

  • @amandabasinger7978
    @amandabasinger7978 2 місяці тому +179

    Mika’s fan base should be referred to as the homeschool hater army. I’m a proud hater of homeschools too

  • @wiltedpetals
    @wiltedpetals 2 місяці тому +209

    my god i had no idea this was going on and i know this video is going to break my heart. back when i was a closeted teenager kristi was one of the youtubers i watched, her personality was so inviting her makeup videos truly felt like just having a chat with a friend

    • @trip7002
      @trip7002 2 місяці тому +1

      Literally.

    • @nbla39
      @nbla39 2 місяці тому

      Same.

  • @stephaniecruz3164
    @stephaniecruz3164 2 місяці тому +142

    Thank you for highlighting the Trevor Project in response/opposition to the hateful LGBTQIA+ retoric ❤️❤️❤️

  • @Hotelyorba
    @Hotelyorba 2 місяці тому +380

    She was so likable and unproblematic for a long time. This is wild.

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +92

      No beauty guru is safe clearly

    • @Hotelyorba
      @Hotelyorba 2 місяці тому +38

      @@MikasRhetoric you got it, Mika. Although, I don’t think Kristi has been a beauty guru since the second she announced her pregnancy.

    • @queentrinicorn9441
      @queentrinicorn9441 2 місяці тому +7

      @@Hotelyorbapersonal beliefs aside… that’s gotta be tough knowing how long ago the journey started, how badly she wanted to be a mom, and how she just wants to get back to feeling that way. I’m not sure if we can 😢

    • @Hotelyorba
      @Hotelyorba 2 місяці тому +31

      @@queentrinicorn9441 I was thrilled for her when I learned that she was pregnant! I really didn’t think she’d have the trajectory she has had at all. I thought she would have her baby and maybe have a video once in a while about baby stuff, but stick with beauty.

    • @notshardain
      @notshardain 2 місяці тому +6

      @@Hotelyorba yeah same. this is so disappointing.

  • @cupcakesoup
    @cupcakesoup 2 місяці тому +157

    Thank you for mentioning the exponential growth of literacy gaps! I feel like it isn't talked about enough. I am a children's librarian in a fairly low-income area, and so many parents think that in order to catch their children up, it's all about pushing "more difficult" higher lexicon books - not about the habit-forming that needs to happen. My late stepfather grew up in the foster care system and moved so much that he fell behind on reading at a young age and never really caught up. He was determined to make sure that his youngest daughter, who was struggling due to a learning disability, never suffered the same fate. I worked with her all summer when he first approached me about her falling behind, and both of them were surprised to learn that a huge part of it was just repetition and finding content she enjoyed. Reading IS fundamental, and it makes my heart hurt that so many people claim that they have never read a book since high school. I'm so happy when I can direct the parents toward starting again and making those memories as well. I'm happy to report that she opted not to start traditional college, but she is starting trade school, and she reads all the time now! She prefers the Kindle because you can change the font and spacing - another issue I have with homeschool curriculum. There's so little flexibility and accessibility, even when they claim to be more helpful for students with different learning needs. This got long, but this was a fantastic video. Please keep your head up if you do start teaching again, and any teachers in these comments, keep up the good work 💗

    • @knitwitchpgh
      @knitwitchpgh 2 місяці тому +11

      I HATED reading until my gram gave me the first harry potter book, and learned i loved fantasy lore books. I had to find my interest and in 5th grade went from a 3rd grade reading level to 9th grade in one school year because i started reading weirder book 😂

  • @lemonmuffin2656
    @lemonmuffin2656 2 місяці тому +179

    I'm someone who was homeschooled for a period of time, and you totally hit the mark. I had to unlearn the hateful teachings and conspiracy theories from my dad. I also had to to do extra classes because my reading and math were not at the level it was supposed to be. I grew up Christian but now im an atheist. Also that period of time that i was home schooled, i was in isolation and was very socially awkward because of it. So i say homeschool sucks.

    • @meagangarrison9066
      @meagangarrison9066 2 місяці тому +7

      I went from homeschool to public school in 5th grade and I didn’t even know my times tables. My math was so bad. My mom literally sent me to school because she knew she wouldn’t be able to teach me anymore…or ever really but ya know. It’s wild.

    • @rachelbowlow9925
      @rachelbowlow9925 2 місяці тому +2

      I was homeschooled until 8th grade. Didn’t know what a fraction was. Had never written an essay.
      My parents weren’t home all day. Didn’t learn anything until I started public school.
      I would sit and read encyclopedias on my own for hours.

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 2 місяці тому +1

      I just don't understand why parents do this, if you're going to do zero effort to teach your kid why not just put them in school, why such a need to abuse your kids.

  • @PinkLemonArtStudio
    @PinkLemonArtStudio 2 місяці тому +462

    As a certified early childhood education teacher, I feel so torn about homeschooling. Secular homeschooling, i should clarify. Christian based homeschool programs that spend half the day learning scripture and ignoring science are absolutely never ok. Anyway, Public schools here in america are in absolute shambles. They are underfunded, leading to program cuts, particularly art and music. The teachers are overworked and underpaid, and we are losing the best of them faster than they can be replaced. The classrooms are insanely overcrowded-- 25 to 30 kids is quite standard in my area. The entire school year is based on hitting certain marks on standardized testing rather than providing a well-rounded, enriching education. All of that on top of a paralyzing fear of school shootings... Secular homeschool co-op programs are looking pretty great to me.
    But I so agree that the children should not be isolated, and the parent should be required to achieve some sort of degree or certification to prove they are able to be a competent, effective teacher. It's scary how unregulated this is.

    • @piratereject
      @piratereject 2 місяці тому +22

      Agreed, I'm a former unschooler and I was advanced to start taking college classes when I was still in high school. I wish secular unschoolers had more awareness out there for how it's NOT impossible with programs, freedom (I was able to volunteer at the zoo during the day for a few hours a week to explore an interest), extracurriculars that expand past what school can offer, and so much more. Formulaic learning can be condensed for the "pass tests" stuff.

    • @cally9336
      @cally9336 2 місяці тому +64

      I think the other really scary part is that teachers are often the only mandatory reporters in a child's life. Parents actively under investigation for abuse can pull a student out of school and that lifeline is lost.

    • @piratereject
      @piratereject 2 місяці тому +16

      @@cally9336 Fair, but abuse will happen at home during the day at ANY time, and most abuse victims are groomed not to speak to other adults, schooled or homeschooled. I do 100% believe that homeschooling should NOT be isolated to the home and the students should take full advantage of volunteering, library classes, etc. (which are also good spaces for kids to find other adults who can help!).

    • @cally9336
      @cally9336 2 місяці тому +40

      ​@@piraterejectTeachers are trained to recognize signs of abuse. The student doesn't necessarily need to verbalize it. I could be wrong, but librarians etc are not trained in the same way.
      But that's beside my original point. Homeschooling rules in the US are so lax a student can be pulled out of school to be homeschooled during an active investigation. That's directly putting children at risk.

    • @ashleyduckworthyt3224
      @ashleyduckworthyt3224 2 місяці тому +10

      @@cally9336All school staff are trained to look for abuse. Librarians at local libraries are not. But most people in that field are perceptive and would also know what to look for. Librarians are a special breed of person and I have yet to meet one that wasn’t a wonderful, kind, educated person. ❤ so hopefully they would see the signs and report.

  • @faceofvision
    @faceofvision 2 місяці тому +455

    Bro, anti lgbt after she was dragged for supporting James Charles??? What's going on 😭😭

    • @alyssabrown-carleton6173
      @alyssabrown-carleton6173 2 місяці тому +52

      I think it might have been a career move or to cover up her beliefs. 'Look I support James Charles, I can be homophobic'

    • @faceofvision
      @faceofvision 2 місяці тому +16

      @@alyssabrown-carleton6173 that would be a weird move, because it was basically just a follow and like as I remember, an nobody was accusing her of being homophobic before it happened ☠️

    • @starbird3939
      @starbird3939 2 місяці тому +28

      @@alyssabrown-carleton6173
      Yup. Just like racists who go “I can’t be racist. I vote for Obama/I have a black friend!”
      It’s a cover.

    • @FabiolaRVela
      @FabiolaRVela 2 місяці тому +3

      @@faceofvisionyou underestimate those weirdos 😂😅

    • @commercialgirl24
      @commercialgirl24 2 місяці тому +11

      ​@faceofvision I take it that you have never met a " I can't be (fill in the blank-ist) because I have a ( person I have internalized ism against) in my family or friend. I was married to a person I didn't realize had internalized racism until later, that's why he's an ex. It does happen

  • @Kimber2011
    @Kimber2011 2 місяці тому +120

    Your comments on AA are SO real. My mom was an alcoholic and died from it when i was 18 so as an adult trying to go cope with it i went to an Al-Anon meeting which is the sibling group to AA based on thrt same principals, for family members of alcoholics. As an atheist i felt so uncomfortable and ostracized in that group. Also... its SO victim blamey?? They had us go around the room and say what we did to enable the alcoholic and i had to be like "...i was a child? Did i do something wrong???" And i almost broke down before they were like "uuuuh wait no this one doesnt apply to you" lmao.

    • @meganivanyos3232
      @meganivanyos3232 2 місяці тому +1

      I’m sorry you had a bad experience in Al-anon. Unfortunately, the communities aren’t varied and large everywhere. I’m an atheist in the program and it took me a while to get my head around it, but have now. There’s many of us and it works.

    • @turdleyurtle
      @turdleyurtle 2 місяці тому +7

      @@Kimber2011 oh God yeah. I am also an ACOA but am Jewish and even just the r/Al-Anon subreddit was....so frustrating to me. I don't want the Christianity infusion in it. I did like the sub's stance that "you didn't cause it, you can't control it, and you can't cure it." Because yeah, I *didn't* cause my dad being an alcoholic, I can't control his grown adult behavior, and the only person who can decide to get better is him.
      BUT....like you, I super agree that Al-Anon is like...fundamentally not designed for children of alcoholics or addicts. And historically, it isn't. It's basically something that was created in a time where people (usually women) had to stay married to alcoholics because they had few, if any, other options. I say "usually women", because it's important to remember that women across the world weren't guaranteed the right to open up checking accounts in their own names without a man (husband or father) signing off on it until like, after the 1960's. In the US this was guaranteed as a right in 1974 under the Equal Credit Opportunity Act. I believe the UK and Canada guaranteed these rights around the same time, +/- a few years. Before these kinds of rights started to be enshrined, it was variable between banks and localities.
      So like, fundamentally AlAnon was made in a time where if you were a woman married to an alcoholic man, it could be extremely difficult to divorce and/or gain some measure of financial independence from him. So the whole program's foundations (in 1951) are more about like...a society where many people were just surviving their situation and had far less rights and recourse to do otherwise. But it's very much targeted at partners and spouses and not (adult) children.
      I also found it super triggering/upsetting to hear a bunch of parents justify staying with an alcoholic spouse by saying the kids didn't know what was going on and that it would be fine, or claiming the divorce would hurt their kids (more than living with the alcoholic??) or just...outright describing parental neglect from the alcoholic (at BEST) and then acting as if their kids weren't being actively traumatized. Hooboy. Then they tell you not to "give advice," but then they put me, the person with an alcoholic parent, in the metaphorical room with a bunch of people desperately clinging to their marriage and insisting their kids are doing fine/are unaware/whatever because they LOOOOVEEEE their spouse when they're not drinking (which is almost never, because alcoholism is a progressive disease) and their kids would be "SO sad about a divorce." It was infuriating and maddening. I couldn't do it and say nothing when people kept justifying keeping their children in a traumatic environment even when they could (financially) manage alternatives.
      Not to mention the amount of times I would see clearly abusive situations (mental/emotional/financial) where you are supposed to be allowed to give advice (in cases of abuse, to get out), but most of the other people would say n o t h i n g. Like it seemed to just...not register.
      I sometimes watch the Put the Shovel Down channel now (I wish she covered children of-- a bit more but I like her mostly), and maybe browse r/adultchildren, but that's about it. I can't do alanon. It was actively making everything feel way worse for me. Solidarity for that experience.

    • @turdleyurtle
      @turdleyurtle 2 місяці тому +5

      @@meganivanyos3232 I mean good for y'all, but some of us /fundamentally object/ to the s the 12 step of Al-Anon. I am also the (now adult) child of an alcoholic. I have never been "powerless over alcohol." So what is the point of step 1? What moral wrongs do I have to admit to (step 5) because my father is an alcoholic. How is that my fault? What did I do wrong? Is this just "think about anything bad you ever did?" Because how does that help me? Like, just to be clear, steps FOUR through TEN imply I have done something wrong, need to apologize/make amends, and have character defects and flaws that harm *other people* SIMPLY because my parent is an alcoholic. Now, I am not a perfect person, I definitely do make mistakes, accidentally hurt people, need to make amends, etc. but NONE of those things are directly related to my dad being an alcoholic. Or indirectly. Why do I need to make a list of people I've hurt because my father is an alcoholic? I'm Jewish. If I want to go around making amends and atoning for the things I've done, I will do that for Yom Kippur, not because my dad has a substance use disorder.
      Like great, glad it helps some people. But since I did NOTHING WRONG when it comes to my father being an alcoholic, and *I* am not "powerless over alcohol" (unless we mean "I cannot drink due to my medications, and also I didn't enjoy drinking before that.")
      - I fundamentally cannot benefit from the 12 steps of AlAnon.

    • @Kimber2011
      @Kimber2011 2 місяці тому +1

      @@turdleyurtle the fact that I attended this meeting in the Florida panhandle probably doesn't help with the religious aspect! They were definitely all in on the Christian fascets of the program. Thank you for such a long and thoughtful response -- and I also read your comment to the other person and everything you said was exactly how I felt. I feel bad I can't respond with anything just as interesting but I just wanted you to know I appreciate your comment!!

    • @turdleyurtle
      @turdleyurtle 2 місяці тому

      @@Kimber2011 thanks! Solidarity for "that thing doesn't work for everyone." Haha.

  • @HarryButtz
    @HarryButtz 2 місяці тому +440

    RELEASE THE PAPER MIKA WE NEED YOU TO COOK

    • @spacecat7864
      @spacecat7864 2 місяці тому +14

      @@HarryButtz that PHD rant would be the “ok that’s it I’m joining the Patreon” video for me 😅

    • @DiMagnolia
      @DiMagnolia 2 місяці тому +2

      I GOTTA REAS THIS

  • @Lizzie_04
    @Lizzie_04 2 місяці тому +74

    Something that gets me about these fundamentalists is that they don't need to pull their children out of school to give them "religious and moral instruction." They can send their kids to bible study and have them participate in church activities. Home schooling for those kids just means their parents want to keep them in a little indoctrinated bubble.

    • @grimmgoosegoose216
      @grimmgoosegoose216 2 місяці тому +10

      Yup... It's the stated goal of SEVERAL prominent homeschooling curriculum to "protect kids from the sinful world" and at least 2 I have personally been taught from explicitly attempt to train children into absolute parental and church obedience. Its really difficult to explain, especially to people who haven't interacted with it, but you are exactly correct that it's to isolate. However bad you think it is, it is worse

    • @EmoNekoChan101
      @EmoNekoChan101 2 місяці тому +2

      They could also send their kids to a Christian private school, which isn't great either but at least the kids will be taught by actual teachers and will be around other children their age. You're 100% on the mark that it's about control and indoctrination.

    • @ginao6810
      @ginao6810 Місяць тому +2

      I don’t see why they need to reinvent the wheel. There are countless curriculums out there that already exist. There are international ones that exist for expats.
      Also, building curriculum is so labour intensive. It shows how little they even know of education systems, they don’t even realise what they have signed themselves up to do!
      Which tells me it’s not about concern for education quality, it’s about control. It’s not about the kid’s development, it’s about the parent’s ego.

  • @faceofvision
    @faceofvision 2 місяці тому +96

    As a teacher, people setting up "schools" making dumb grammatical mistakes just drives me crazy 🤠

    • @faceofvision
      @faceofvision 2 місяці тому

      If my foreign ass can do it, so can these alleged "educators" ✋✋✋

  • @ciaociara
    @ciaociara 2 місяці тому +122

    I love how a “quick video” is 48 minutes 💗

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +20

      STOP I TRIED

    • @WitchOracle
      @WitchOracle 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@MikasRhetoricno you don't understand, we genuinely, sincerely love it lol

  • @0threnody070
    @0threnody070 2 місяці тому +178

    This is my time to shine! I was homeschooled and let me tell you, I was NOT prepared for life. I was “homeschooled” until 14 and my mom just decided she was done with it and printed out a certificate from the government that said I graduated high school. I got enrolled in college at 17 and it was so incredibly hard. I placed into remedial math because my mom just didn’t teach me and had to learn everything from scratch starting with long division. Luckily, I loved reading, so I did fine in reading and writing, but I had no idea how to write an essay. I had never sat in a class, never had to collaborate on projects. I had to learn social skills at the same time as learning all of the other skills that kids my age had learned years ago. I worked three times harder than everyone in my class because so many classes operated on the assumption that you had assumed knowledge because so many topics were covered in middle school or high school.
    My parents loved to point out that I graduated college with a very good degree as evidence that they homeschooled successfully but they didn’t. My siblings after me didn’t learn to read until they were above age 12 because my parents gave up homeschooling and there was no oversight to verify that they were keeping up with curriculum. I hate the fact that I was homeschooled. People can instantly clock me because I’m weird and not in the fun quirky way. I lagged behind other people for years. I felt isolated from my peers for YEARS because they were so far ahead of me in knowledge and social skills. I just couldn’t interact. It was awful. I’m better now, but because I was forced to adapt.
    My parents were also religious and I cannot tell you the damage that religious homeschooling did. Part of the reason I struggled was because my “homeschooling” consisted of learning to cook, clean, and be submissive. Homeschooling should be illegal and I will forever side eye anyone who wants to do it. You are readily admitting you want to hinder your child and make their life harder in every way and you should not be allowed to decide unilaterally to ruin your child’s life before they can even make decisions for themselves.

    • @JenniferKingStudios
      @JenniferKingStudios 2 місяці тому +6

      My situation was similar. Homeschooled up until college and was completely unprepared for life.

    • @trip7002
      @trip7002 2 місяці тому +4

      Specifically parent taught homeschooling, teachers go to college for a reason !! I don’t see an issue in homeschool in certain cases, but there has to be a professional in the room.

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 2 місяці тому

      Wtf why are parents allowed to just print out a certificate and lie their child graduated? I though there where some graduation tests you would have to do first? It's 100% child abuse, human interaction is one of our basic needs, to depride your child from that is just evil, all those parents can go to hell.

    • @becks9922
      @becks9922 2 місяці тому +2

      Dang you just almost described my childhood to a T😅 I had very similar experiences, and was SO unprepared for college & the “real world”. Plus I was also raised in the whole patriarchal fundamentalist BS too. Now that I have a daughter I could never imagine isolating her the way I was. My husband is mindblown at some of the stories I share.
      I just want to scream at these moms heading down this path that I’ve been there, done that for my whole childhood and it SUCKS and will almost definitely f*ck up your kids.

  • @bebel0ck
    @bebel0ck 2 місяці тому +103

    Omg!!! I’m so glad you’re covering this - I just found out about this a few hours ago. I was homeschooled and I am also a trained educator; what she’s doing is something I’m super familiar with. I will say, what they may not realize is that a lot of kids that come out of what she’s doing end up gay and leftist (me) lol so kind of self defeating as far as stated goals, but not without a ton of trauma that will take a long time to unpack!

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +21

      I love that you turned out that way icon

    • @lic.5085
      @lic.5085 2 місяці тому +10

      Me too! I grew up extremely fundamentalist Christian, homeschooled, etc., and ended up leftist and nonbinary. 😂

    • @grimmgoosegoose216
      @grimmgoosegoose216 2 місяці тому +3

      Eeeeey me three!

  • @jmicha91
    @jmicha91 2 місяці тому +61

    I don't understand American homeschooling as a whole. I'm Polish and I had to be homeschooled for a semester due to mental health issues. What it meant was that teachers from my school came to my home to have lessons with me. There was no way my parents could (even if they'd want to) teach me themselves and have that count as education.

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 2 місяці тому +2

      If you do homeschooling right, then this actually can be an option in the US. But that isn't what most people do...

    • @TychoKingdom
      @TychoKingdom 2 місяці тому +2

      What kinda privileged bs is that? The teachers in America dont have time for that. How many students do yall have at the school 3? When I was in high-school we had like 3 thousand kids.

    • @jmicha91
      @jmicha91 2 місяці тому +13

      ​@@TychoKingdomWell, universal access to education (and health care for that matter) should be covered by your taxes. I guess USA is really a third world country.

    • @sharonharris9782
      @sharonharris9782 Місяць тому

      ​@@TychoKingdomyeah,imagine another country getting it right, and here you are shitting all over it. Take an L.

    • @nikkinj
      @nikkinj День тому

      @@TychoKingdomthey do that it NJ & lots of other states. If the child has a medical condition for example and needs temporary attention home schooling, the teacher can be paid to go to the students home after school hours to private teach them. Sort of like tutoring. It doesn’t happen often but it does happen.

  • @nora4642
    @nora4642 2 місяці тому +56

    I studied anti vaccination among rural parents in grad schoool…… it’s a lot

  • @AriccaChristine
    @AriccaChristine 2 місяці тому +67

    I tried AA to get clean, it worked for me when I was beginning my sobriety but I agree that the religious aspect of it made me very uncomfortable so I quit going but I’m lucky enough that I stayed sober 🎉

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +10

      Amazing congratulations!!!

    • @CapitalismSuxx
      @CapitalismSuxx 2 місяці тому +3

      Oh thank all deities that you keep on going sober! So happy for you!

    • @knitwitchpgh
      @knitwitchpgh 2 місяці тому +5

      Congrats friend! 🎉

    • @abbymyers5072
      @abbymyers5072 2 місяці тому

      There are alternatives that are secular, highly recommend doing some googling for options in your area ❤

  • @catarcela1997
    @catarcela1997 2 місяці тому +44

    I think it is important to remember that most of the abuse (sexual, physical, emotional) that children face occurs at home. School is a lot of times a safe place for those kids, and teachers can help recognize students that are going trought a rough time at home and help make their situation better. This combined with how abuse and domestic violence is highly common (and hidden) in extreme religious communities like these... I get really sad and angry about how many kids could get stuck in an abusive environment and have literally no escape or nobody to ask for help.

  • @Chelseabee55
    @Chelseabee55 2 місяці тому +144

    ABUSERS USE HOMESCHOOLING TO HIDE ABUSE.
    I wish I could shout it from the rooftops. Now I don’t think Kristi’s child is being abused, but that reason alone is good enough to not allow homeschooling. Homeschooling should be signed off my a social worker for cases like disability, neurodiversity where the school can’t meet the child’s needs, etc. those children should be on a curriculum and have house checks. SO many abuse cases use homeschooling to get their children away from mandated reporters. This is also very common in fundie families.

    • @kaykayyyyymwaa
      @kaykayyyyymwaa 2 місяці тому

      Fundy family?

    • @giladadadada1614
      @giladadadada1614 2 місяці тому +16

      not to mention how harmful the isolation is. whether these types of parents like it or not kids growing up around different types of children is so important for social development

    • @Chelseabee55
      @Chelseabee55 2 місяці тому +4

      @@kaykayyyyymwaa fundamentalist families. In this context mostly Christian or Mormon but could apply to others

    • @taurusgirl240
      @taurusgirl240 2 місяці тому

      So schools indoctrinating children with leftist Marxist garbage like “if a boy likes pink and playing with Barbie’s he’s really a girl” ISN’T abuse?? LMAOOOOO

    • @MadamMonchimonchi
      @MadamMonchimonchi 2 місяці тому +11

      RBK seems so overbearing, I think her son is going to A) fully believe everything she’s into and become a whipped mommas boy or B)fully rebel against it due to his mom being up in all aspects of his life. I know she has traumas (we all do) but her kid shouldn’t be the one to carry her through them

  • @saigeferko6035
    @saigeferko6035 2 місяці тому +59

    This is such an upsetting turn 😔 I started watching her content during her pregnancy journey bc I'm a social worker and loved how openly she talked about mental health, gentle parenting, PPD/PPA, health anxiety, etc. (plus I wanted drama-free makeup content at the time) but I only causally view her Instagram stories so I didn't know about any of this. It's so sad bc she seemed like such a positive, open-minded content creator

    • @haleyselene
      @haleyselene 2 місяці тому +4

      For real! I've watched her for a long time and remember SOBBING at her pregnancy announcement. She was an oasis for me as a young person. I always hoped that her saying "but you do you!" stuff was just her trying not to get into drama... How sad. My mom grew up on a Christmas tree farm in the country and I would LOVE to have the resources to be a homesteader. Its so hard to find homesteading or gardening channels that aren't right wing nonsense. Let me be a crunchy leftist goblin in the woods!

  • @debbir1575
    @debbir1575 2 місяці тому +568

    As someone who is heavily into the UA-cam gardening community, I got a quick education into the problematic nature of the mindset of many homesteaders.
    My tolerance for woo, religion and alternative bs is extraordinarily low.
    AA NA are ABSOLUTELY problematic.

    • @Thenewboidahlia
      @Thenewboidahlia 2 місяці тому +36

      THISSSS so much this!!! And a heavy agree on AA and NA being absolute bullshit

    • @elvingearmasterirma7241
      @elvingearmasterirma7241 2 місяці тому +58

      Another real short pipeline I noticed thats genuinely hilarious to me is the start from "Divine feminity" to "Christian fundie"

    • @AKbaby89
      @AKbaby89 2 місяці тому +37

      @debbir1575 yeah I'm a recovering addict, and I was VERY into NA until my sponsor told the entire group my 5th step (when you write down and then go over everything you've ever done wrong and what's been done to me) and told everyone about my SA and R, and blamed me.
      I will never go back after that happened.

    • @elvingearmasterirma7241
      @elvingearmasterirma7241 2 місяці тому +13

      ​@@AKbaby89 ... Wat de fok

    • @elvingearmasterirma7241
      @elvingearmasterirma7241 2 місяці тому +21

      ​@@AKbaby89 Like I knew that NA and AA is really into the whole shame thing but thats... A whole 'nother level

  • @markushamilton-mn6vj
    @markushamilton-mn6vj 2 місяці тому +38

    I had to stop watching her a little while ago because I was just constantly hearing her complain about everything. I knew more about her health issues more than my own it felt like, her insta stories were just full of her complaining about her health and her life. Every single day. She is big on living a natural, gentle life, but how has that worked for her? Living a normal life, with a normal job, with normal everyday responsibilities teaches you discipline. I feel so awful for her son, if she actually follows through with this- he is going to be paranoid, uneducated, and sheltered.

    • @WhiteRabbit89
      @WhiteRabbit89 2 місяці тому +1

      Yep her whiney complaining made me unfollow her years ago

    • @tyrsis
      @tyrsis 2 місяці тому

      For somebody like Kristi who is so wildly out of control with her obsession about ‘health and natural’, she is completely not healthy herself.
      She has said her anxieties include her son having to live without her if she passed away - and still is NOT healthy. She isn’t. Both her and her husband are overweight.
      Pot meet kettle. FFS.

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 2 місяці тому

      It isn't discipline, it's just giving yourself other stuff to worry about. I have terrible anxiety and thank God for work.

  • @elvingearmasterirma7241
    @elvingearmasterirma7241 2 місяці тому +288

    Everytime homeschooling is brought up I feel like someone dunked ice water all over me.
    We moved a lot due to my father's job. We lived on a mining town for a year or maybe two years then we would move. And it was just easier for her to homeschool us than to have us placed in a school, taken out of a school and our education suffering. Even worse when we showed up in the middle of the school year and my autistic self would just have breakdowns due to being overwhelmed.
    HOWEVER. And this is the cincher. In South Africa the governemnt doesnt let you do whatever you want with homeschooling. You need to register with the provincial education department and you must offer lessons that follow the compulsary phases of education. And the exams you get are the same that kids in a traditional school setting gets.
    Its why my brother and I could easily slide into distance learning and just continue on.
    And "Unschooling" is illegal!
    America's homeschooling scene scares me tbh

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +58

      Quebec also regulates homeschooling through licensed educators

    • @elvingearmasterirma7241
      @elvingearmasterirma7241 2 місяці тому +58

      @@MikasRhetoric Strict regulation and keeping religion far away from it is the only way to make homeschool even a little bit viable.
      And... Yea. We also got real lucky with my mum who was very practical. She sought out advice from licensed educators and followed that advice. The moment she found a good distance learning option she signed us on so she could be sure we were on track education wise.
      She did not once consider herself as a replacement for an actual teacher.

    • @QTpatootie95
      @QTpatootie95 2 місяці тому

      Ahh South Africa, the country with the highest incident of sexual violence/rape, highest unemployment rate, highest incident of people suffering with migraine, top ten crime rate if not number 1 (I'm too lazy to look that one up) in what universe do you think you're a country anyone should model themselves after?

    • @QTpatootie95
      @QTpatootie95 2 місяці тому

      Also have you been formally diagnosed or did you just decide you had autism in 2020 with every other low achieving emotionally abusive person lmao

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion 2 місяці тому

      ​@@elvingearmasterirma7241shout out to all the good moms keeping the country afloat. We wouldn't have gotten this far without em. Makes me feel like a generous 23% more hope read these stories.

  • @AKbaby89
    @AKbaby89 2 місяці тому +46

    Uh oh, idk what's going on. I used to watch Kristi, but I stopped when she got pregnant cuz I can't have kids, and I just am not into pregnancy content. I'm pan, soooo I don't think I'm gonna be very happy about this one. Thank you for covering it though❤

  • @lauraodero9675
    @lauraodero9675 2 місяці тому +62

    I dipped out on Kristi during the James Charles mess when someone mentioned the ultra far right accounts Zack was following on Insta. I spent an evening scrolling through his follows and I was sick to my stomach. For me, if the husband is that far right, the wife has to be, too. She just can’t be open about it because she’s a public figure whose livelihood relies on her being palatable.

    • @Sleipnirseight
      @Sleipnirseight 2 місяці тому +8

      Jesus, I had no idea until yt recommended this very video to me. Glad I saw it and your comment. You are 1000% correct - if one spouse subscribes to bigoted ideals, they both do.

  • @Baby.Puss.In.Boots.
    @Baby.Puss.In.Boots. 2 місяці тому +31

    I lost one of my best friends to the crunchy alt-right pipeline and she also decided to homeschool her children. (Instead of Christian to crunchy to alt-right she went spirituality to crunchy to alt-right) And at one point she admitted to me that her reasoning for switching her kids from public school to home school was to limit and control what her kids learned and saw. She was completely aware of how her children were struggling and suffering from being taken away from public school and switching to home schooling, she didn't care she wanted to isolate amd control them. 🙃
    Edit for spelling

  • @mothman69420
    @mothman69420 2 місяці тому +41

    "Your job is book, your job is read." SO fckin funny, loving this channel and your work, keep it up!

  • @mahogara
    @mahogara 2 місяці тому +134

    Honestly, I've forgotten about her. Here to learn everything I've missed.

    • @toltorg
      @toltorg 2 місяці тому +10

      @@mahogara I really had too. I stopped watching her when she refused to end her relationship with James Charles. It’s so disappointing to find out what’s gone on since then.

    • @mahogara
      @mahogara 2 місяці тому +7

      @@toltorg I've stopped watching her way before the James Charles thing just because I've lost interest in the beauty channels and the community itself. But I remembered her as one of the good ones (remembered being really happy for her when I came across that she was finally pregnant) till that James Charles thing came out. At this point, I just wonder if there was any decent person in that beauty community from that era.

    • @toltorg
      @toltorg 2 місяці тому +1

      @@mahogara I think they were all just so focused on the money they made when the collaborated that it didn’t matter.
      James got views regardless of where he was posted or who he was with and everyone used that whether they didn’t like him or changed how they felt about him later.

  • @Jamieleanne1985
    @Jamieleanne1985 2 місяці тому +6

    Dangerous culty vibes. Huge fan of kristi for such a long time, will be unsubscribing asap. How can she be doing a Go Fund Me for her anti LGBT sister FROM HER FOLLOWERS WHO ARE LARGELY LGBT??? Awful, just awful. Peter monn sent me here! ❤

  • @rizzbusiness
    @rizzbusiness 2 місяці тому +141

    IF HOMESCHOOLING HAS NO HATERS I DIED!!!!!! This is such an interesting video to me. Hi, I’m 22 and was homeschooled my entire life before college. My mom was crunchy and anti-vax, but we were not religious. My surrounding community was heavily religious homeschoolers and their freak parents. I used to watch Kristi a few years ago before she was pregnant. I wish I’d been able to go to school. It wouldn’t be until I was in my twenties that I figured out I had dyslexia and ADHD, things I could’ve been screened for earlier in school. My learning disabilities made me impossible for my mom to teach, unlike my brother, who did fine. The 2008 recession resulted in my mom having to go back to work, which meant my schooling was abandoned. I’ve recovered academically, most kids will, but my insecurities about my intelligence and schooling resulted in me not pursuing my interests of science when I had the chances to. If I’d been allowed to flourish outside of my home, I think I’d know myself more today. Identity formation is as much about time given to you to develop yourself, as it is about time spent with others to learn who you are.

    • @phoenixgirl70
      @phoenixgirl70 2 місяці тому +4

      You’re only 22. Life is full of surprises and you can pursue science at any age! You may even be able to take a night class here and there. I did it while working full time. Never give up you’re dream. Keep learning. Reading. Watching educational videos. Maybe you can take high school night school science classes? I’m wondering if there’s an organization for kids who were homeschooled and they can help maybe with you’re feeling behind or however you would describe it to them. There has to be something because there seems to be a lot of kids who were angry, rightfully so that can help. I wish you the best going forward. Oh there could be online support groups too! Sorry I’m just trying to think of anything that will bring your confidence up and be able to study what you’d like even if it’s slowly.

    • @rizzbusiness
      @rizzbusiness 2 місяці тому

      @mintermintcat I didn’t say I was unbiased nor objective. I was literally explaining my experiences. You are illustrating a fundamental ignorance to nuance and choosing to be insensitive to what I’ve shared. L

    • @rizzbusiness
      @rizzbusiness 2 місяці тому +1

      @@phoenixgirl70 Thank you! I really appreciate your hope and kindness. I am considering taking classes on my days off, just so I can work towards it in some way. :)

    • @phoenixgirl70
      @phoenixgirl70 2 місяці тому

      @@rizzbusiness I hope you do. There were people of all ages in my college classes and it’s easier to apply for things as an adult. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. I wish you all the best. Believe in yourself. I’m excited for you!

  • @lauryntonio
    @lauryntonio 2 місяці тому +69

    Ah, I love hearing an educated takedown of some harmful, popular topic 😌
    also was RBK like a beauty guru who had some quiet alignments that she's been displaying more often lately? or was it a Fell Down a Pipeline kind of situation?? or a combination where it's gotten more extreme? im not super familiar w her

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +24

      I feel like it’s pipeline

    • @CapitalismSuxx
      @CapitalismSuxx 2 місяці тому +15

      RBK was wonderful the days leading up to her move into the woods. I loved her content for her gentle humour, her amazing makeup skills and her fun and laid back personality, always keeping it real, not stressing about being the popular girl.
      I was so happy to see her preg announcement but when she started to vlog her homesteading it kind of went south... I liked her being open with mental health struggles because PPD is so misunderstood and also very dangerous.
      When I learned she would not quit breastfeeding her baby "until he himself is ready to quit" I knew something was way waaaaayy off kilter and I never seeked out her content after that. Parents that don't teach healthy independece to their kids WILL end up raising hell.

    • @lauryntonio
      @lauryntonio 2 місяці тому

      @@CapitalismSuxx thank you for the insight!!! I first heard about her through Peter Monn saying she wouldn't denounce James Charles and yeah
      Also super duper respect the last part abt children and independence - there's a middle ground between coddling and negligence that would really enlighten family influencers to figure out

  • @kristenclark82
    @kristenclark82 2 місяці тому +19

    You got a Peter shoutout in todays raw beauty Kristi update video. Do your thang girl! You deserve it! You bring such an intellectual and nuanced take to subjects! 😊

  • @awhartig5847
    @awhartig5847 2 місяці тому +21

    "Do you want a homeschooled Dr.?"
    No Ma'am, I want a higher skill level than *_Operation_* & Dr Google accreditation

  • @julianapurvis3461
    @julianapurvis3461 2 місяці тому +19

    A quick note about AA: they are religiously ambiguous and structure programs so that people can work with the higher power of their choice- just something larger than yourself. Just didn’t want anyone looking for help to be afraid of meetings for that reason- I surely was at first. 14 years without alcohol and counting. Sending love to those who are struggling with addiction. ❤

    • @glennrose3388
      @glennrose3388 2 місяці тому +2

      yeah they say that but often close with the lord’s prayer

  • @Jess1013
    @Jess1013 2 місяці тому +55

    Kinda heartbreaking because Zach and Kristi’s dream of moving into the wilderness existed before the surprise pregnancy. I imagine the fear of losing the son she never thought she would have has turned her to the extremes and unproven to protect him and their family. I know in her postpartum videos she talked about an almost unbridled fear of him dying or experiencing the same heartbreak of parental death that she did with her mom. Now knowing that her niece sadly passed, and witnessing her sister experience that pain, I’m sad to say that the granola fascism pipeline was calling her name. As much as I have empathy for a desperate, scared mom I can’t continue to support her with this new information. I didn’t even know about her supporting James Charles, so yikes.
    Side note: I fear this is where Tati is going in her efforts to get pregnant with a carnivore diet and cultish religiosity.

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +11

      YES IVE TALKED ANOUT THAT TATI STUFF BEFORE - I think she’s even talked about ions in makeup or smth

    • @trip7002
      @trip7002 2 місяці тому +6

      @@MikasRhetoricthe “vitamin” brand was enough for me lmao

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 2 місяці тому +6

      The carnivore diet and pregnancy just seems like a bad idea

    • @AdamantErinyes
      @AdamantErinyes Місяць тому +1

      ​@@rosesweetcharlotteYeah, that sounds like a great way to end up with a folic acid deficiency.

  • @themorrigansoracle
    @themorrigansoracle 2 місяці тому +10

    “Homeschooling” for my parents was just an excuse for my dad to make me work in his businesses at age 11

  • @GivesMelissasABadName
    @GivesMelissasABadName 2 місяці тому +73

    33:51 I’m a historian and spent 5 years in grad school and even still wouldn’t presume to know how to teach history to a high school student without further training or education. Teaching is its own specific skill set.

  • @leximor
    @leximor 2 місяці тому +34

    sometimes you make videos that feel perfectly catered to me LMAO this scratched my brain perfectly thank you

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +2

      You’re so welcome I was messy yesterday

  • @Kayla_P99
    @Kayla_P99 2 місяці тому +89

    I have mixed feelings about almost requiring a masters for teachers but that has more to do with teacher pay than with thinking a masters is not worthwhile knowledge.

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +22

      I AGREE 10000%

    • @Kayla_P99
      @Kayla_P99 2 місяці тому +16

      Also to your point to the tail end of the video, there are more learning disabilities than people realize and I would consider the average parent unprepared to recognize issues, especially if they are undiagnosed themselves.

  • @mimido23
    @mimido23 2 місяці тому +24

    As a parent I went through a crunchy phase and it is a pipeline for sure. When I came to my senses i actually came out further left than I've ever been. Giving birth can mess you up as well, not an excuse, but I really wasn't fully there for 2 years.

    • @SailorSaiyan9000
      @SailorSaiyan9000 Місяць тому

      Birth is so traumatic and especially during the lockdown, I had my daughter at the height of it in April 2020 so only my husband was allowed to be there, and a bunch of other stuff that was just not at all in my birth plan 😅😢

  • @reneeofficial679
    @reneeofficial679 2 місяці тому +13

    Teacher here: saw a video a few days ago of this mom homeschooling. Her kindergartener going into first grade could not write letters. Pre alphabetical. First grade. And she was proud of their demonstration of motor skills. I was so freaking mad. Like the social and educational damage you’re doing to your kid over unfounded, unethical beliefs is so absurd to me

  • @JaimeBush1
    @JaimeBush1 2 місяці тому +33

    I contended at a town hall meeting that a high school diploma is insufficient for qualifying someone as an educator. Nevertheless, my parish's school board in South Louisiana permitted individuals with only a high school education to apply for teaching positions due to a shortage of teachers, which stemmed from inadequate treatment during the pandy. A member of the school board defended this decision by likening it to homeschooling, which incensed me, particularly because I have nieces and nephews. I have two years of a bachelor's degree in biology, live in South Louisiana, and even I know better. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

    • @sarahsarahsarah9093
      @sarahsarahsarah9093 2 місяці тому +1

      I feel you! I live in Cenla and it’s roughhhh down here, for real!

  • @ajjconcertat2am
    @ajjconcertat2am 2 місяці тому +79

    my roomate is a highschool teacher and we live in texas... he keeps up with the school board meetings and shows me the footage from them and these homeschool anti book freaks are there every god damn time because they cant handle the concept of a gay person its insane

    • @knitwitchpgh
      @knitwitchpgh 2 місяці тому +12

      I wish i had the free time the hateful have.

    • @TychoKingdom
      @TychoKingdom 2 місяці тому

      Mmmh that's weird. But I guess it's the area. I live in Texas when I was in school they had the gay straight alliance. And kids could make clubs as long as they got a teacher and a few members, so there was a lot of gay stuff. Tbh I'm not sure the parents knew.

  • @PanickinSkywalker
    @PanickinSkywalker 2 місяці тому +24

    I’m 33 now, was homeschooled from 2nd through 9th grade. And I’m STILL dealing with the repercussions of having a poor education and social upbringing. Also I’m super low contact with my parents because of it as well. I’ll never get to forgive them because they’ve certainly never tried to apologize.

  • @nik1128
    @nik1128 2 місяці тому +5

    I unfollowed Kristi when she droned on and on about infertility, magically got pregnant, then complained non stop about the birth and being a mom. Bye.

  • @Kiputytto_minis
    @Kiputytto_minis 2 місяці тому +24

    There's an old anti MLM creator that fell down the pipeline after she got covid and lost taste/smell. She started doing all these weird woo woo practices to try and get her taste and smell back, which I understand but I didnt follow her on tiktok where she appreantly went waaayyy off the rails. Reminds me a lot of this case.

    • @Kiputytto_minis
      @Kiputytto_minis 2 місяці тому +12

      Jessica Hickson is her name took me a minute to remember. I don't know what she's up to now or if she's still into the woo woo stuff since I unfollowed her a while ago.

    • @Feynix4
      @Feynix4 2 місяці тому +3

      I remember that! Jeez that was wild

    • @wership
      @wership Місяць тому +2

      Look, when the medical establishment cannot or will not help you its easy to go down that path. I spent tens of thousands of dollars on my undiagnosed endometriosis over 20 years. They prey on people in agony with no end in sight.

  • @turdleyurtle
    @turdleyurtle 2 місяці тому +47

    Honestly THANK YOU for identifying the antisemitism behind all this shit. I get so tired of people discussing these pipelines to extremism and conspiracy but ignoring or just not stating the antisemitism behind it (see also: scentbird CEO). Im bisexual and jewish and it's just...tiring when no one recognizes what is going on.

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +11

      I’m so annoyed that the scentbird stuff came out JUST after I worked with them. Promise I won’t again tho it was awful

    • @turdleyurtle
      @turdleyurtle 2 місяці тому +3

      @@MikasRhetoric honestly I don't blame anyone for working with them or not knowing until like...very recently. It's not something I would think to look up - to see if the CEO is like, espousing woo and antisemitism like that. I certainly didn't know, and while I've never bought scentbird, it's an ideal ad for someone like me because I actually really do like perfume! It's moreso that I'm grateful people are calling part of the ceo's ideology antisemitic instead of just....not mentioning it or recognizing it. It's often frustrating or like...disheartening when this happens and it's obvious (like Ms scentbird talking about Hitler...)
      But then also it's worrisome when I realize people just have no idea how to recognize antisemitism and/or it's never mentioned in the popular discussion. Another example - that football player who gave a speech at a Catholic University in the US? Harrison Butker? The news/social media was filled with scathing responses to his misogyny/sexism and how awful the speech was when he transitioned to speaking about his girlfriend (wife? Idr). But I looked up his speech and quickly realized it was riddled with *wildly* antisemitic dogwhistles WELL before he implied women are meant to be (exclusively) good wives and mothers. I was like "oh....oh non-jewish folks do not realize how much worse this speech was than they thought. This had...an entire additional layer of badness that had me offended as a Jewish woman before the other stuff."
      ...another thing I think about as a Jewish woman is how intertwined transphobia/homophobia and antisemitism have been in history. Lots of liberals know that the Nazis burned the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (institute of sexology)'s books and therefore one of the biggest repositories of LGBTQ books in the world at the time, but how many know that it was targeted because the founder, Magnus Hirschfield, was a gay Jewish man? When people act homophobic towards men who are too "feminine" or who are transphobic towards trans men - I wonder how much overlap is coming from centuries of antisemitic canards/tropes that claimed Jewish men menstruated "like women", that characterized Jewish men as effeminate, impotent - and therefore deserving of disdain and violence at the hands of "properly masculine," Christian men? (Similar connections are made between islamophobia/orientalism and homophobic tropes in history and through today as well.) when people join groups that want to claim there's an agenda (by what they would claim or deep-down believe are "effeminate men,") to lure in good Christian children and make them trans, "corrupt them" to "deviant" or "ungodly" ways , to sexually prey on christian children - I see the homophobia and transphobia. But I also see the history of blood libel wherein Christians claimed Jews (who were being characterized as incorrectly performing Christian gender norms) were trying to lure/entrap/prey on good Christian children for various nefarious purposes. It feels like the same thing twice. I've seen some papers about the similarities- even a few articles discussing this transphobia rhetoric calling this a modern day blood libel conspiracy (the claims about kids being indoctrinated into being trans or whatever).
      (Whole side tangent here about scentbird)
      Just before Covid hit, I got really into buying Indie brand perfumes talked about over on r/indiemakeupandmore (IMAM for short). I think if I didn't know how easy it was to buy perfume samples and how much more affordable non-designer perfumes were, I would've like...already signed up for scentbird pre-finding this shit out. The company is doing something really smart bc they're in a niche of being able to afford to market aggressively to people who aren't familiar with perfume already but would be interested in buying it and just see super expensive FS bottles of designer scents. Before finding out about the CEO, the only reason I hadn't bought scentbird is because I knew about LuckyScent samples, Ajevie & other decanters, and IMAM swaps/sales. You can get 1 - 3 ml samples of indie/niche (aka small business, not designer) perfumes for /really/ cheap online. If you don't like the little vials they come in, buying bulk perfume rollerballs is also cheap and easy. So scentbird was targeting the right demographic (with me) but I just happened to already discover cheaper, better alternatives to designer perfume first so never spent any $$$.
      It's a shame scentbird is being run by this lady, because it's clearly a smart place to be market-wise with more funding than small business perfumeries can afford for advertising, but cheaper than full size designer perfume.

  • @BistrosHouse
    @BistrosHouse 2 місяці тому +41

    I think homeschooling should be illegal unless the person teaching has at LEAST a college degree. Great point about teachers only being able to teach certain subjects based on their specialties in college yet we let people that barely passed high school teach students 💀 actually insane.

  • @KaseyWithers
    @KaseyWithers 2 місяці тому +68

    On one hand im shocked at where shes at now, but at the same time it totally makes sense looking back. I began watching during the home renovations and the very beginning of homesteading, went back and watched her beauty vids, but dipped back out once she started talking about medical stuff. Its good to be cautious with Doctors, asking questions and speaking up for yourself is good, but when you begin denying medical science there is something deeper going on.
    Ive noticed with almost everyone whos fallen down the "crunchy" pipeline is they already dont trust the government or doctors, and theyve almost always been through a trauma with their baby. Those two things mixed make you very vulnerable. Of course she is still on the hook for her beliefs and actions, but i swear the crunchy pipeline targets parents who 1)distrust the government and 2)have been through a medical trauma.
    I feel like on some level they probably held center/right leaning beliefs before now, they are landlords after all, but the birth reinforced some core beliefs of distrust and they went further right afterwards like most "crunchy" parents. As always, amazing video. Loved this one.

    • @r.h.1988
      @r.h.1988 2 місяці тому +8

      I have to agree. My family has seen a lot of medical negligence and trauma and that has definitely formed a lot of their opinions. When you lose someone because doctors screwed up, you develop a distrust in them. Its really prevalent, at least in online spaces, with POC and minorities because they have a genuine historical reason to distrust the government and be wary of western medicine.

    • @martynaaaaaaajl
      @martynaaaaaaajl 2 місяці тому +2

      Absolutely. My dad was really sick all his life and eventually passed in the hospital. She somehow demanded an autopsy and got one and they found a deeply untreated stomach ulcer. She's never trusted medicine since :/

    • @AdrianDiaz-u9l
      @AdrianDiaz-u9l Місяць тому

      idk Ive had plenty of medical trauma, hate the government and I'm not a malignant asshole. I think we give bigots far too much leeway

  • @carolynwisser3322
    @carolynwisser3322 2 місяці тому +27

    Love the coordinated eye and sweater look. I’m excited to hear your opinions because I definitely have my own about this lol

  • @PaigeChristieUK
    @PaigeChristieUK 2 місяці тому +7

    ok im late but im here...

  • @solarmoth4628
    @solarmoth4628 2 місяці тому +12

    I’m not completely against homeschooling but I think that it’s too unregulated in the states. It creates an environment for educational neglect and abuse. The current homeschooling system in the US is so entangled with conservative christian groups that lobby against any type of regulation that I don’t think it’s a safe option for most kids. I don’t think you can homeschool effectively with highschool diploma. I’m teaching kids rn and they’re so complex. A lot of parents don’t know what to look out for developmentally and ignore any delays until the school forces them to address it. Most Unschooling is just an excuse for educational neglect.

    • @user-mv5zt8qd9l
      @user-mv5zt8qd9l 2 місяці тому +2

      For me, it's the argument that parents are unteaching their kids the "indoctrination" from public school that frustrates me. As if a child is less susceptible to being brainwashed from expsorue to only one family's ideals compared to going to school and being constantly surrounded by dozens of peers from varying backgrounds.

    • @solarmoth4628
      @solarmoth4628 2 місяці тому

      @@user-mv5zt8qd9l You’re so right. I don’t disagree that some schools try to indoctrinate kids but it’s often using conservative values like describing enslaved people being “workers”. But at least at school their peers might call out the textbook while at home, kids are insulted by their parents views.

  • @AkiraTanaka11
    @AkiraTanaka11 2 місяці тому +60

    Both my parents are university art teachers. I think the last thing either of them would push was to raise me and my siblings through homeschooling. As kids, their parents and them lived during the last years of a long-lasting, catholic-fascist dictatorship in Portugal, which frequently censored and controlled all media & arts, and punished resistance. Thankfully, in 1974, them and many others saw the end of it - but even though we live in a small country, the social media right wing christian conservative phenomenon has influenced many people here too, young and old. My parents aren't one of them, and many of us don't want to see the country return to the outdated, oppressive ''values'' of christian-fascism.
    People like RBK like to preach about ''freedom of parents to do what they want'' and that ''school and teachers are corrupting our children''. Teachers and students during that dictatorship in Portugal were some of the first to try and speak out against the regime. Many were brutalized by police and imprisoned, which mirrors a lot of recent school protests and how brutally they are treated. Abusive teachers and bad school systems exist of course, but in education there's so much growth, a broadening of horizons, the possibility of finding community and a purpose worth fighting for because you took the time to inform and educate yourself. Even the worst teachers I had, by them being so awful, led me to stand up for myself. But if information and education is controlled, either by a christian leaning government, or in a oppressive christian household, that is how personal and collective freedom is restricted the most.
    I really like your videos, but this one specially struck a chord with me due to my family's history and my parents pushing me and my siblings to follow and study arts like they did, because through it you can learn so much about humanity as a whole... science, education and the arts are always the first things to be censored or distorted, art specially is often decried as 'degenerate' and 'corrupting' by fascists. So I suppose, thank you for exposing so well why teachers and public education is so crucial, and why christian homeschooling is so toxic in the long run; it had me comment about some personal stuff, and lowkey kinda spout a manifesto, which I don't usually do on youtube.
    Keep up the great work, Mika! You always are concise, well informed and well spoken, and even jokes about allegedly in minecraft and the like supply your videos with a lot of charm too. Love your channel!
    EDIT: Forgot to say I'm autistic too, but only was diagnosed when I was in my 20s, and as you can imagine, I don't blame my parents for not suspecting much when I was a kid since information about autism during the 2000s in Portugal wasn't as widely known in educational spaces for even teachers to have noticed early on.

  • @MusicOfKatfish
    @MusicOfKatfish 2 місяці тому +19

    This entire video really makes me consider doing my 2nd masters thesis on qanon, crunchy culture, toxic masc + femme and how it always starts with the simpliest things of "clean" beauty/food for femme/afab and "being tough" or a "social loser" or gen metal health for AMAB (still figuring this one out as im AFAB). I've done serious amounts of research, but theres still so much here.
    how dare you make me rethink my potential thesis that should be a PHD
    thank you for making these videos, and having sources and the like, I greatly appreciate it!!

  • @Notliketheothergorls
    @Notliketheothergorls 2 місяці тому +21

    I just gotta say videos like this are very reassuring. My friends and I are like a semi crunchy moms with ND kids, but they all home school. I’ve felt genuine guilt that l’ll be sending my kid to public school

    • @lady8jane
      @lady8jane 2 місяці тому +11

      I'm ND with semi crunchy parents and also went to public school. I think it really helped me with learning how to socialise with people. As long as you keep an eye on your kid and check in with them on a regular basis that they don't get bullied, you should be fine.

    • @Dr.PicklePh.D.
      @Dr.PicklePh.D. 2 місяці тому +1

      I was homeschooled until the end of high school by a semi-crunchy mom and now have a bachelor's degree. Every kid is different, and even with the world's best homeschool curriculum, the most perfect parents, and regular socialization, there are still kids who will just do better with the structure and social opportunities that public school provides. Public education is so varied in the U.S. that I can't really speak to your district, but unless it truly is one of the really bad ones, you don't need to worry about doing wrong by your kid. And if at some point in the future you do decide to give homeschooling a shot for whatever reason, remember there are tons of options out there. There's usually some way to sign your child up for sports, activities, or classes in your local school without enrolling them fully. A lot of the homeschooled friends I had growing up did that with subjects they were especially interested in, and they really enjoyed it.

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 2 місяці тому

      Just remember, you are doing your best. Homeschooling isn't for everyone, especially if you can't afford it financially or timewise

  • @arianaw6513
    @arianaw6513 2 місяці тому +14

    I know this wasn't the point of the video, but I've never heard anybody else say that about AA. I'm not Christian, and when I attended a group (as part of my degree) I was struck by how religious it is! I know there are other options for sobriety support groups that are not AA and not related to religion, they just aren't as well known. (long story short, if you're reading this and feeling like you need sobriety support but worried about religious aspects, there are free resources available for you)

    • @crunchycarl
      @crunchycarl 2 місяці тому

      Hi!! I’m a certified alcohol and drug counselor and in my 7 years of practice peoples thoughts on AA are they really love it or they really hate it. It’s not for everyone and I’m always upfront with people about that. There are absolutely a ton more resources out there! SMART Recovery is one! They are an evidence based program, that offer secular groups. A lot of my colleagues recommend it to people who are not wanting religious based groups but looking for extra support.

  • @LangkeeLongkee
    @LangkeeLongkee 2 місяці тому +69

    I feel like home schooling is such a broad concept cause home schooling can mean a mum who works from home teaching their kids how to spell, or someone who has an actual tutor, or multiple tutors, come to their home and actually teach in an environment for teaching like an "office" space. People who are professional educators that is. I guess this falls under disability but public schools can suck, and if your child can be professionally educated in an environment they're more comfortable in, I support that.
    The average parent doesn't even remember most of what they teach in school, let alone being qualified to teach that in context that is developmentally appropriate. I'm not an educator, I'm a psych major. But I did do my practicum in a prep school for neurodivergent kids. Especially adults who have no regular interaction with children weighing in on this, y'all kids are just... You really do have to respond to them in a specific context, because it's crazy how at different ages they literally cannot conceptualize certain things. And just their actual mental and physical ability cause they're still defining their motor skills and such. I also feel parents home schooling will neglect certain things that don't seem "educational" but are necessary for development.
    I agree with you. Teaching is sooooo important, we literally would have nothing without teachers. And the fact that teachers are so disrespected and some random Conservative parents who never went to college thinks they can just do that job with no training? Wiiiild.
    Edited because you spoke facts and I added lol

    • @patb6650
      @patb6650 2 місяці тому +2

      That’s what get me about home schooling in US. It’s dumbing down citizens. Basically „you don’t need to know chemistry and physics but Lord and saviour is more important than your family” 🤦‍♀️

    • @LangkeeLongkee
      @LangkeeLongkee 2 місяці тому +1

      @@patb6650 wild. Because those things ARE helpful. In my case, I didn't get to do biology in late secondary school, and I'm upset about it to this day. While I'm a psych major, and I love the study itself, I'm not that fond of the actual field. If I had done biology in late secondary school, I would be able to study biology. But because I didn't, if I wanted to study biology know I'd have to pay for classes to do standardised tests or take 2 years of extra classes in university.
      I did do chemistry however. And I still use random things from class to like, clean my bathroom or something. Even though I didn't formally study chemistry furthur, I still found it useful.

  • @jyt74
    @jyt74 2 місяці тому +15

    Public school teacher here--thank you for your accurate comments. Also, I'm horrified by the teacher(s) who were so hateful to you. I'd never let a colleague do that on my watch. You are a truly gorgeous true intellectual!

  • @plumdutchess
    @plumdutchess 2 місяці тому +6

    She is taking away any chance that little boy has to become a well-rounded, functioning member of society. It's sad.

  • @nailinthefashion
    @nailinthefashion 2 місяці тому +8

    Don't you mean CookedCrustyKristi? Don't you mean BakedOffputtingKristi? Don't you mean BurntUnsavoryKristi? I can do this all day, we've come a long way since her Maleficent cosplay.

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +6

      My bf is calling her Raw Bussy Krusty

  • @zellynmermaid9326
    @zellynmermaid9326 2 місяці тому +17

    IF HOMESCHOOL HAS NO HATERS I’M ALSO DEAD!

  • @CHiCguitar
    @CHiCguitar 2 місяці тому +10

    You're speaking a lot on the developmental and intervention aspects of teaching, which I didn't get a lot of in my education process to become a science teacher here in the US. I think that is SO critical, especially for younger students.
    Here in the US, a lot of post-secondary education is taught by people with ZERO pedagogical instruction, and we lose out a lot here because of that. We're being taught by experts who don't know how to teach. So we teach ourselves. I'm not sure if that's the case in other places in the world. As someone with pedagogical instruction it's physically painful sometimes to watch some of these people try to teach. Even being an expert in something doesn't necessarily make you a good teacher. I don't understand how, like you said, people who are not experts with NO instruction on how to teach are able to cover everything from Pre-K through high school graduation. It's terrifying.
    Also - homeschool kids are weird. And when they enter the world as adults, they know it too. They lose out on so much more than literacy and math education.

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +1

      In most of Canada you need to do either a dedicated bachelors of education that is one year longer than other bachelor’s programs, or you do a full bachelors and 2 year teachers college/master in education

  • @TinniestBore
    @TinniestBore 2 місяці тому +15

    clicked off the video I was watching for this OMG

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +3

      I hope it’s worth it bestie

    • @TinniestBore
      @TinniestBore 2 місяці тому +1

      @@MikasRhetoric always bestie!!!! I am here to watch this I have been waiting for this deep dive from someone. And from you? Chef's kiss! Happy Friday!

  • @mfuentes4961
    @mfuentes4961 2 місяці тому +37

    As someone who used to watch her for years, it’s so disheartening and disappointing to see how Kristi and her husband are falling down the Christo-nationalist/fundamentalist cult hole. I’m scared for the wellbeing/safety of their son and the other children that are attending that school because the public has seen what can happen when fundamentalists try to control their children’s lives and schooling. I’m very worried that this could get very dangerous very quickly and turn into another 8 passengers/Ruby Franke case.

  • @mellybean1718
    @mellybean1718 2 місяці тому +5

    I... I saw where she lived in rural Washington State and made some assumptions. It was when she shouted out James Charles that I unfollowed. Stick to yer conservative values and protect the children, lady

  • @Jenibean371
    @Jenibean371 Місяць тому +4

    Wow! You are a breath of fresh air! The irony of homeschooling christians not being able to form a coherent sentence!

  • @mirandajj18
    @mirandajj18 2 місяці тому +12

    Would love to point out that private Christian/religious schools in the US do not have to provide any accommodations, modifications, therapy, or supports for disabled students either. If private schools and home schooling have no haters, I am no longer with us.

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 2 місяці тому +3

      I worked at a public school for a few years and this is something people don't get. Kids would get dumped from these schools and end up with us, then we would have to figure out what was wrong with them because they would come with no records.

    • @mirandajj18
      @mirandajj18 2 місяці тому +2

      @@rosesweetcharlotte literally they get kicked out for “behavior” but have no supports or ways to communicate

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 2 місяці тому

      Why don't they have to follow same rules, weird?

  • @imiiallen9681
    @imiiallen9681 2 місяці тому +13

    Oh wow 😲 my eyebrows were up in my hairline when you started, I’m really disappointed 😢

  • @vickyevan2279
    @vickyevan2279 2 місяці тому +14

    I so appreciate you calling attention to how difficult literacy is to 'make up for' later on. Not to mention that illiteracy is often a tool used to manipulate the underprivileged. Can not believe people like this who don't give their children the gift of a proper education.

  • @nonfictionfeminist
    @nonfictionfeminist 2 місяці тому +4

    Agreed, homeschool is not it. I understand it for specific situations/abilities, but there's WAY too much potential for manipulation

  • @claras1401
    @claras1401 2 місяці тому +45

    With you bringing up Christi’s part in the Jaclyn Hill saga, it reminded me of Alex from Pretty Pastel Please and how she recently passed away.
    Alex had a fairly popular video in the similar vein to Christi’s on the Jaclyn subject and her recent passing has been kinda a shock to me.

    • @MikasRhetoric
      @MikasRhetoric  2 місяці тому +16

      Yes I know, may she rest in peace

    • @missmatti
      @missmatti 2 місяці тому +10

      Oh no! Alex passed? 😧Her poor parrot will miss her dearly.
      Edit: This is slightly OT but I searched on UA-cam about it and why is YT recommending me COLLEEN BALLINGER "emotional 4th of July vlog" when I want to learn about Alex? Last week I looked for Chappell Roan inspired looks and who does youtube show me... Colleen who I never ever watched. 😣 Rant over.

    • @thegrimlooper
      @thegrimlooper 2 місяці тому +4

      @@missmattiThis happens to me too. I’ve never even searched up Colleen, and I’ve only ever watched videos about her done after the drama. And even then, it’s been almost a year. (I’ve watched Alex for years and years so her passing was so unexpected and so sad. I hope Archie is doing okay)

    • @Hailey-bz2ym
      @Hailey-bz2ym 2 місяці тому +4

      This is how I found out oh my god my heart dropped.

    • @starrwinter
      @starrwinter 2 місяці тому +2

      @@missmattisadly Archie has not been living with her for a long time. She moved to Tasmania after her divorce and a bird behaviourist has had him since that move. Tons went on no one 100% knew what was going on, but just sad all around.

  • @mrs_moose3546
    @mrs_moose3546 2 місяці тому +4

    Totally sucks. Liked her quite alot for being a down to earth beauty guru. Whatched her first couple of "homesteading" videos and saw the writing on the wall. Such a shame she went down the deep end

  • @JB-cb7dx
    @JB-cb7dx 2 місяці тому +5

    Im right there with you in being a homeschool hater. I see soo many moms in my local mom group discussing it and im in a fairly liberal state. It blows my mind. I agree it's acceptable in certain circumstances but absolutely not all. I think I'm relatively smart, I have a bachelor's, but I am NOT a teacher by any means and truthfully I dont want to be.

  • @marleyrivera6808
    @marleyrivera6808 2 місяці тому +9

    im in my twenties now but being homeschooled stunted me socially to the point where i can’t tell if im on the spectrum or was just homeschooled or both. i will never subject my children to that.

  • @juliemorris6916
    @juliemorris6916 2 місяці тому +8

    I have never found RBK to be very stable.

    • @lookitsgrandma
      @lookitsgrandma 2 місяці тому +2

      Even went she went after the furry lipsticks, which I admittedly found interesting, I felt something was _off._ Get the same vibe from Tati.

  • @earthfa333
    @earthfa333 2 місяці тому +16

    I HAVE BEEN BLESSED BY THE ALGORITHM TO BE THIS EARLY

  • @mudkipmillie5216
    @mudkipmillie5216 2 місяці тому +9

    I remember watching Kristis vlogs riiiight about when she started to vlog a lot about moving to the woods, and it was quite clear to me at the time that she was experiencing some kind of psychosis. However, at that time it seemed like her husband was still relatively normal and was trying to “ground” her in reality a bit. (Please keep in mind this is all from a long time ago and very much anecdotal.) The thing I am the most confused about with all of this is the husband. I don’t really understand how he went from attempting to call her out on her illogical/disoriented thought patterns (which is what she used to describe in her old videos) to playing along with this enough to allow their kid to be swept up in it. The whole situation is very bizarre.

    • @mudkipmillie5216
      @mudkipmillie5216 2 місяці тому

      ALSO to the homeschool point: I 100% agree with you as someone who has evangelical borderline fundamentalist christian relatives. I have this cousin whose wife is homeschooling their children and I truly fear for their future. It is absolutely one HUNDRED percent a fascist indoctrination system. Homeschooling should be illegal and I will die on that hill!!! It places people into an echochamber where they lose their grip on reality because the viewpoints they hear on a daily basis are so far removed from reality, and yet they think that “everyone” thinks that way! Ugh!

  • @thedevilwearspress-ons
    @thedevilwearspress-ons 2 місяці тому +5

    Hey babe! Just wanted to pipe in about the NA thing 😽 (from an addict), so NA actually isn’t religious at all they just recommend you connect to YOUR higher power…and that can literally be your hello kitty plushie or your front door 😆 just SOMETHING that you can connect to and that is greater than yourself. Some people choose god, some people choose their plushie. I actually don’t go to NA or AA bc I don’t feel I need it but just wanted to mention that for anyone that might not know and that could get thrown off from a good thing if they think it’s a religious type thing 😘🫶🏻💕
    On another note, this whole thing is so crazy! I’ve been trying to get more info about all of this so thank you to actually explaining what this “schools” beliefs are. Nobody else is explaining any of this.