Introduction to string arranging

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  • @ralphk.j7809
    @ralphk.j7809 2 роки тому +1

    This video was enough to get me through my string arrangement module at university. Thank you 🙌

  • @nisbahmumtaz909
    @nisbahmumtaz909 11 років тому

    Not only do you show what to do, but clear and concise procedures in doing so!
    Nice!

  • @KevinKerrMusicLessons
    @KevinKerrMusicLessons 10 років тому +31

    I actually have quite an extensive background with music theory and writing and such, but for those who are just starting out and don't know any of that. This is very handy for them to know! Anyone can sit down and play a few chords. But this shows them how to turn it into much more. Great tutorial.

    • @Dojan5
      @Dojan5 10 років тому

      I agree wholeheartedly. I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I learned the basics of piano when I was younger, but other than how to read sheet music and basic piano playing, I'm musically inept.
      This was very interesting to watch, and very inspiring!

    • @effyiew7318
      @effyiew7318 2 роки тому

      lol

  • @bunyaadi
    @bunyaadi 10 років тому +6

    A very comprehensive guide and explained so even an idiot like myself, can understand it. I have a couple of string libraries and have always been quite lazy in the arrangement; partly because I don't now really the best method so I compromise with what I think sounds good.
    It certainly gives me scope and another approach to sound arrangement. Cheers.

  • @Guitaropenmind
    @Guitaropenmind 7 років тому

    Many thanks Pete for providing us substantial Musical information in such a crystal clear presentation.

  • @vineethrajmenon
    @vineethrajmenon 12 років тому

    wow!... really respect artists who take time out to share their knowledge.... much appreciated.. thank you - Vin from India

  • @sergeyauts
    @sergeyauts 7 років тому +1

    It's amazing! This is an orchestration course compressed in 10 minutes! Thank you for this video. It's very helpful for beginning composers! Using different samples for each part is great option!!! I've never used it before!

  • @jhcmusic
    @jhcmusic 12 років тому

    I have a master's degree from Juilliard. I started my professional life doing arrangements for top rock and r&b artist as well as several orchestras in America. And, even I found this incredibly useful. Thx, it's always good to see how another does things.

  • @aninstrumentalvision
    @aninstrumentalvision 9 років тому

    This is the second time I watched this. Once last year and now again. This really helps the beginner arranger! Thanks!

  • @theq937
    @theq937 3 роки тому

    One of the most helpful videos I’ve seen in a while, thank you!

  • @Standbackforscience
    @Standbackforscience 9 років тому +23

    9 minutes, so much useful info in only 9 minutes.

    • @bobrv8
      @bobrv8 7 років тому

      Standbackforscience hear hear - great tutorial Pete

  • @trylawrence
    @trylawrence 12 років тому

    Hi Pete,
    Thank you so much. you have opened my eyes. you are the true teacher. very simple and effective. Once again thank you.

  • @MarkMichalowski
    @MarkMichalowski 12 років тому

    What a clear, straightforward, excellent tutorial. I know almost next-to-absolutely-nothing about string arrangements but this is pitched (hur hur) just perfectly. Thanks Pete!
    Mxx

  • @simoncroft
    @simoncroft 11 років тому

    I found this tutorial very helpful, thank you. I have written string arrangements for my own songs for years, but your approach is so logical, it's given me a new method.

  • @tudore_jams
    @tudore_jams 7 років тому

    Can anyone recommend more videos like this? ie. where someone takes a simple 8 bar arrangement and arranges it to be more interesting. Best way to learn!

  • @blazeanddaze
    @blazeanddaze 13 років тому

    This is so far one of the best musical tutorial I've seen on UA-cam!
    Great job, I learned a lot today from you :)

  • @normvork
    @normvork 8 років тому

    Thank you Pete for making this tutorial. It's really helpful and the best explanation I have seen of how to make midi strings sound "right."

  • @lesliemowatt4224
    @lesliemowatt4224 7 років тому

    Hi Pete, this video has been most helpful as I am doing a remix of my arrangement of Mary Did You Know from several Christmases ago. I recently acquired some new string samples and wanted to split the voicings up on tracks with separate instruments. I also realized that my string parts needed a little more life bred into them. Thanks for the inspiration.

  • @thetej2000
    @thetej2000 2 роки тому +2

    wow ,it helped me a lot sir #respect# ♥️🙂

  • @HimShieMahuNiki
    @HimShieMahuNiki 14 років тому

    Outstanding - I feel like I leapt a few years ahead in learning by wathcing this short video! Thanks so much!

  • @smithwoodmusic
    @smithwoodmusic 12 років тому

    Great video. I enjoy arranging string parts from the keyboard, and this video helps me to understand the ideas that i create.

  • @BrittanaAnna
    @BrittanaAnna Рік тому

    谢谢您,很简洁有用的入门教程,对我们新手刚学习编写弦乐的很友好,思维逻辑清晰,步骤明了。 谢谢

  • @caitiffchoir
    @caitiffchoir 10 років тому

    I wish I could "like" this video 1K times.
    Suuuuper helpful. Thanks Peter!

  • @fredhudson1966
    @fredhudson1966 10 років тому

    Wonderful string arrangement tutorial. Thank you for taking the time to share your perspective.

  • @DrTorture28
    @DrTorture28 13 років тому

    This is great. I was having real trouble writing parts for a Violin and Cello, but now I feel inspired or at least have a direction I can head in. Thanks a lot.

  • @squeezy99
    @squeezy99 2 роки тому

    This is a great video and answered many questions I had about not just arranging for strings (I'm a beginner currently arranging for a quartet), but also wider application for song accompaniment on a single instrument - in my case, my main instrument, English concertina. Using score-based tools alone I struggle to visualise the relationships between chords and how the performance might be improved - I liked the way you introduced elements such as counter melody, passing notes etc. - having the visual relationship is very helpful, so I'm off to give Logic a test drive.

  • @alexanderreyes6874
    @alexanderreyes6874 6 років тому +1

    I wish I saw this back in 2009 but really I wouldn't have got it. After working with some incredible jazz and symphonic composers for hip hop tracks, reading the step notation helped me see what was going on (that's how us fake musicians read). I definitely will add more obstinate to future pads. Thanks!

  • @MrTelemuse
    @MrTelemuse 8 років тому

    Thank you, Pete. very helpful. I've been looking for this type of instruction for some years. Needed to take my strings beyond block chords, I saw several techniques I can use.

  • @TheKnightimeProject
    @TheKnightimeProject 14 років тому

    Really enjoyed watching this tutorial Pete - you've certainly given me some ideas to work with!

  • @quanganhbuingoc
    @quanganhbuingoc 3 роки тому

    Very helpful . Hope you and your family stay safe during Covid Pandemic

  • @bplabs
    @bplabs 8 років тому

    Thank you, Pete. This makes a lot of sense. A good next [step] video might be: 'articulation assignment'.
    By the way: May I suggest you and add a slow release compressor to the background music track and side-chain it to your speaking track? It's a little thing that I think you'll be happy with. There are many tutorials out there for how to do it.

  • @aninstrumentalvision
    @aninstrumentalvision 10 років тому

    That was simple and clear. This is great for the novice! Thanks!

  • @2klodu95
    @2klodu95 10 років тому +1

    How did this get some any thumbs down at all? I hope it's due to fat thumbs. For a free 9 minute intro to string arranging, this is excellent and straight to the point tutorial. I wish I had checked this a lot sooner. Thanks Peter!

    • @DreamlessSleepwalker
      @DreamlessSleepwalker 5 років тому

      Because this tutorial is done in grid editor and is dumbed down to the point that nothing of use can come from this video.

  • @jleb22
    @jleb22 13 років тому

    Enjoyed this Pete, very educational and interesting. I have just bought LA Scoring Strings, hope to use some of your tips! thanks again

  • @Raventhecrow
    @Raventhecrow 7 років тому

    Wow, such a great, well-condensed tutorial, thank you very much!

  • @pwhitfield
    @pwhitfield  11 років тому

    Hi Jaisyn, this is Logic. Most midi recording programmes will let you display midi in both 'piano roll' and notation, though the notation part of the programme is often limited, which is why we use specialist notation programmes like Sibelius and Finale.

  • @pauldevillo
    @pauldevillo 12 років тому

    Well done - a great intro to the subject. This will go a long way in improving some string pads I'm working on!

  • @TomSarracino
    @TomSarracino 10 років тому +1

    Excellent tutorial. Went right from the begining and very clearly spelled it out. Big help if you have had college harmony classes. So many other boneheads on you tube put uptheirown

  • @stkellymusic
    @stkellymusic 15 років тому

    Thank you Pete, I really appreciate you making and sharing this video!

  • @TomKerseycello
    @TomKerseycello 10 років тому +2

    What's up, Pete? I like this video. I'm a cellist and composer, myself, and I think you've clearly and intelligently laid out some helpful tips here for those without extensive knowledge of strings and how to use them. I'm sure you've got a lot of other ideas/textures for strings, too! I'll check out some of your other videos as well. I wish you continued success and fulfillment. - with ardent appreciation for both the music maker and the music lover, Tom Kersey

  • @TheGalant123
    @TheGalant123 8 років тому

    Great tutorial! I learned lots of new things. Thanks for making it, Pete!

  • @danieldoesitall
    @danieldoesitall 11 років тому

    Great video with exactly the thing I'm always after - practical "bullet list" tips

  • @chicodinamita
    @chicodinamita 12 років тому

    Awesome lesson. Thank you for your time and effort. All the best to you.

  • @syahmirh6438
    @syahmirh6438 8 років тому +1

    This video tutorial, REALLY change my mindset to positive attitude! Thank you!!!
    I really appreciate it!! :D

  • @pwhitfield
    @pwhitfield  12 років тому

    Learning cello will be really helpful! It's quite difficult to get started on a string instrument so don't be put off if it takes a while to make a decent sound. Some of the most effective things you can do with strings are really simple - like single held notes that have a natural start and finish, and some basic dynamics (getting louder and softer).

  • @tatybeatz233
    @tatybeatz233 11 років тому

    thanks pete ,this has given me a lot of ideas on arranging my beats.I think this video has a lot of views because you did it in MIDI , it may be easy for you ,but its not everyone who knows how to read music in the staff,etc...Please do more stuffs like this in midi.

  • @volchonokilliR
    @volchonokilliR 10 років тому

    Wow. That's what I was seeking for so long! Thank you alot!

  • @mentonova1483
    @mentonova1483 5 років тому

    Many thanks for that video Mr. Whitfield!

  • @bardhan.abhirup
    @bardhan.abhirup 5 років тому

    This was extremely useful and inspiring! Thanks Pete!

  • @bunyaadi
    @bunyaadi 11 років тому

    Found this useful. I seemed to already some of the methods although there's a few tricks I picked up from here. Good tutorial.

  • @BillGraper
    @BillGraper 4 роки тому

    The last thing with different instruments is genius! I'm going to try it. :)

  • @officialvisaural
    @officialvisaural 9 років тому +11

    Great tutorial! Found that I was doing most of these things instinctively in my string arrangements, but toned it down because the strings' slow attack time made me think they were late to the beat/rhythm of other parts (even if sample attack is set to 0).
    Thanks for the info - you indirectly stated through these techniques that such is normal.

    • @JeremyPigeon
      @JeremyPigeon 9 років тому +8

      Visaural For the strings' slow attack you can have them come in a bit earlier. I found that many people do that but it depends on the samples you use. It's especially useful when you have non-stringed instruments playing along. And if you need a fast and strong attack on the violins, you can just put them quantized on the bar and add another patch of staccato violins play that first note, then you just play around with the velocities. :)

    • @gregoireartiste8080
      @gregoireartiste8080 8 років тому

      +Jeremy Pigeon I was wondering if you know the notation software used in the tutorial, as well as the software used to play back and edit the scores (piano on the left)...?

  • @OdinOfficialEmcee
    @OdinOfficialEmcee 4 роки тому

    This has been so de mystifying! Thank you so much! Before my string parts were bassically happy accidents that just happened to sound good but now I have some practical writing theory to help create more realistic and smooth sounding string parts. Would love of you could do the same thing with horns

  • @JoelEverettComposer
    @JoelEverettComposer 10 років тому +2

    Simple, and well explained - Great job!!!

  • @eggbass
    @eggbass 9 років тому

    Excellent tutorial, Pete!

  • @mel0_archive498
    @mel0_archive498 9 років тому

    Hey-o! I'm a relatively noobish digital orchestral composer, and while your advice applied sounded kind of strange on my string soundfont (freeware; what can you do?) it was absolutely fantastic advice on creating chords and a stable melody in general for more calming pieces.
    I tend to find that music with more erratic and predictable motions reflect well on high energy situations of deep sadness or epic sounds, whilst more complex but flowing movements help take that and tone it down a notch. Probably because you have to spend slightly more time considering what you're hearing.
    Wonderful tutorial nonetheless~

  • @pwhitfield
    @pwhitfield  10 років тому +3

    Hi Devon, the reply option isn't there on your comment for some reason. I would have used something really basic for this - Garritan or a Logic instrument. I don't use sample libraries much, arrangements are played live. When I add a bit of sample is it Hollywood or LASS. All the libraries have their unique qualities.

    • @devonwau
      @devonwau 10 років тому

      Thanks for the reply Pete. I don't know why the reply function is disabled on my account. Sorry if my question was not clear. But I am wondering what vst you used for this particular tutorial. Those strings sound so real. Are you saying that you used Garritan for the tutorial?

    • @pwhitfield
      @pwhitfield  10 років тому

      ***** At around 7'40 I go back to the arrange window and it shows I was using EXS strings, which would be one of the regular Logic string patches - sorry, it was a long time ago and I don't remember for sure! But it certainly isn't one of the posh sample libraries, just a simple string patch.

  • @pwhitfield
    @pwhitfield  11 років тому

    Hi - about instrument ranges. In general violins play the higher notes, violas the middle notes, cellos lower and basses lowest. If you google 'string instrument ranges' you'll find more about that. And I agree, if you make lines for each instrument, even if that is a viola sample patch, it should make the pad sound more musical. I think that's what you were saying!

  • @joecc6
    @joecc6 14 років тому

    Very interesting...nice work Mr Whitfield. Joe in Ireland.

  • @Prospero30820
    @Prospero30820 12 років тому

    Thank you, this is very useful and I appreciate a lot you share your skills with us !

  • @pwhitfield
    @pwhitfield  11 років тому +1

    Hi Leo, as an arranger, I've sometimes felt like I was writing a core part of a track. Where composing ends and arranging starts is a tough one. It doesn't really matter until it comes to copyright and who gets royalties. In this case, I was kind of assuming the chords existed and maybe it was part of a song, and I was just adding some strings.

  • @devonwau
    @devonwau 10 років тому

    I'm sorry Pete. You may already answered this question but what vst do you use for strings. And what do you think about Miroslav Philharmonik and NI Session Strings?

  • @RomiesStudio
    @RomiesStudio 6 років тому +1

    Thank you Pete, I know this is 9 years old bust still helped in 2018 :) Thanks

  • @AndyDrudy
    @AndyDrudy 7 років тому

    Wonderful. many thansk for taking the time to make the video.

  • @DanielRojasSinger
    @DanielRojasSinger 9 років тому +1

    This is simply amazing! Thanks for the great techniques. Do you have more general voicing tutorials? (I0m a singer and I'm trying to learn about musical arrangement to do a cappella renditions all by mself).

    • @pwhitfield
      @pwhitfield  9 років тому +2

      Hi José I haven't tried anything else on voicing but if you are creating vocal arrangements you will learn so much about part writing! For me, the line is king in an arrangement, where each part should be melodic in its own way.

  • @Sixalienasa
    @Sixalienasa 13 років тому

    I like this video but I would love to see a lot more of them. Do you intend to give us further assistence? It would be very much appreciated. Thank you.

  • @JonasLeonardMusic
    @JonasLeonardMusic 7 років тому +4

    Great! I just arranged strings in my own piece of music. I would be very glad to receive some feedback :)

  • @maxwhite7383
    @maxwhite7383 7 років тому

    Love every bit of it. Thanks so much.

  • @pwhitfield
    @pwhitfield  11 років тому

    I'm not sure what you mean, if you could tell me a bit more please. There aren't rules as such for which instrument plays which note in a chord, but there are some techniques that make the strings sound satisfying.

  • @Muzicboy3
    @Muzicboy3 7 років тому

    Hey do you have more stuff like this? Teaching with midi notes. I really understand a lot better when taught through midi. Do you have a online class teaching composition like this?

  • @Tomatofury
    @Tomatofury 11 років тому

    Fantastic tutorial.... Do you have more of these ?

  • @carlborsing7336
    @carlborsing7336 11 років тому

    Not unless you're an old Electric Light orchestra fan like myself. I usually start my MIDI work differently though, typically with a one hand "spider crawl" type chord progression or regression, for lack of a better word, move notes around, change velocity etc and can't wait to start using envelope automated scripts in my favorite DAW Reaper Kontakt 5..

  • @CleisonRodriguesComposer
    @CleisonRodriguesComposer 9 років тому

    Very good sound of this string!
    In my latest composition for orchestra (The Gaia Hypothesis) I used the Factory Kontakt 5.

  • @SanderCurtis
    @SanderCurtis 12 років тому

    What VST are you using for your string sounds please? Btw, what string VST do you recommend? Thank you and keep making good videos.

  • @pwhitfield
    @pwhitfield  12 років тому

    Hi Daniel, Sorry for the confusion! This vid is about music you play into Logic, via a keyboard - midi notes. The Loops packs are something else - pre-recorded elements of audio, like Apple Loops.

  • @Fero631
    @Fero631 13 років тому

    Although, personally, I dislike this way of composing music, I enjoy very much how you make clear what most beginners (me included) tend to forget: That the harmony is just as important as the melody.
    Good work :-)

  • @danielfischer4399
    @danielfischer4399 12 років тому

    Hi Pete,
    I don't quite understand...so you get this screen you have in your video with the notes etc from Apple Logic Studio, right? So is there already everything inside to record music? What are the organic loops packs about (disco strings etc), how can you use them? Can you also use them with other programs? Thanks, Dan

  • @cochi256
    @cochi256 7 років тому

    fluid and clear and full of information! you're a great teacher :) also it's great that you've worked with Judas Priest!

  • @hamburgstudent
    @hamburgstudent 11 років тому

    thank you very much for your reply. I have one more question. How can I split them in to section for example if my song is CM7. How can I split them to viola, contra bass and so on and keep improvising notes? What specific notes do each instruments play?

  • @leoDvincci
    @leoDvincci 11 років тому

    Got You..Thanks. I was confused for a while trying to find out the difference. Some cases It seems like a thin line.

  • @joecc6
    @joecc6 14 років тому

    @pwhitfield
    What samples would most producers use, considering they don't have access to orchestras?
    Also with regards realism to proper string writing..i.e. respecting how they are played in a real situation..would you recommend any books, background reading?
    many thanks,
    nice intro to strings...joe in ireland

  • @galtesler
    @galtesler 14 років тому

    Awesome video. Found you through Gearslutz. Thanks you very much!

  • @hamburgstudent
    @hamburgstudent 11 років тому

    hello sir i have a question. In string pads, how do you know which instruments is which, such as which key from which key is contra bass cello and viola and so on. Also from my experience, string ensemble(or pads) sound so different from once than each different sections played separetely and then played together thanks.:)

  • @CharlesK441
    @CharlesK441 10 років тому

    Brilliant. Simple but very effective

  • @MrMikomi
    @MrMikomi 12 років тому

    Hi, would you not normally use violas and cellos for the lower third and fourth parts? I used to play violin but I don't remember how violin is scored for orchestra. I know there are first and second violins, surely that's just two parts, and you have four there. Would not the violins usually only play two parts? Thanks in advance.

  • @1978Allanc
    @1978Allanc 11 років тому

    Hey man , a quick thanks , lots of helpful advice , Cheers Pete

  • @pwhitfield
    @pwhitfield  15 років тому

    Hi - I'm just using a standard pad string preset in the ESX24 for this (Logic 8). For recordings I use live instruments and the East West sample library.

  • @MacsAMacMan
    @MacsAMacMan 11 років тому

    Hi Peter, thanks for the video! Very handy to tips there. Question for you sir: What is your preference for music arrangements - a DAW (Logic) or notation software (Sibelius or other)? I use Logic but I would and currently play in the parts and edit til they sound right. Are there any advantages to doing this in a notation program so it's correct, then transferring to the DAW? I'm wondering how easy it is to import a QT movie in a notation program vs working in the DAW.

  • @DakotonTV
    @DakotonTV 7 років тому

    you should all just have Pete do the writing and recording for you, it saves you lots of time and he's fantastic :)

  • @FallingIslands
    @FallingIslands 13 років тому

    super helpful. will help me in my uplifting trance tracks!!

  • @HaharuRecords
    @HaharuRecords 3 роки тому

    Nice,. Can you also make a videonon about some cool ideas of making string arrangements

  • @Muzicboy3
    @Muzicboy3 7 років тому

    Thanks for the reply Pete... keep making that good music my guy! :)

  • @pangtaksuen
    @pangtaksuen 12 років тому

    thank you very much,my friend lend me a cello,would learning a cello be less effective? and for the keyboard for chord voicing,it cannot play a chord with two same note at the same time,is it a better way that i should think and play violin 1 and 2 separately instead of playing a chord?

  • @victornoagbodji
    @victornoagbodji 8 років тому

    this is awesome : ) hope you can do more of these.

  • @ArGyProductions
    @ArGyProductions 13 років тому

    Masterful work my friend... and to think i try to play all my melodies when i can just pencil them in lol

  • @pwhitfield
    @pwhitfield  12 років тому

    Hi Mr Mikomi, you are right, the typical string section is violins 1, violins 2, violas and cellos.

  • @vazkopl
    @vazkopl 13 років тому

    So many info in 9 minutes. Just what i was looking for, thanks a lot!
    Do you know any good VST for strings? It has to be external cause i dont use Logic.

  • @Doodle92
    @Doodle92 13 років тому

    Wow, super informative. Helped me a lot, thankyou

  • @gregbrookman
    @gregbrookman 9 років тому

    Very useful, thank you very much Pete

  • @pwhitfield
    @pwhitfield  11 років тому

    Hi, I think whatever work flow feels right for you is what you should stick to. If we all had exactly the same process we'd sound the same! I start on paper, then play into Logic, then transfer to Sibelius. I think you can import QT movs to Sib and Finale, but easier to work with in Logic I think! One other thing I'm careful about, is that a midi part edited to sound right in Logic, doesn't always look right in notation, so I'll edit the midi for sound, then copy and re-edit for look!