Thank you so much for starting with a warning to protect your Joy, to protect the Hobby. I used to be a circus artist. Went to circus school, worked for Cirque du Soleil, Worked in a swiss touring circus, worked in the German Cabaret circuit, kept that career up for a decade. And after I stopped I did no circus for a good 6 years, because I had crushed every iota of joy that circus once bought me. I only now have gotten back into it as a hobby, and get to do it for fun again, and I don't ever plan on trying to monetize it again.
I so appreciate your perspective on the business of pottery. It aligns with what I have seen in most artistic business pursuits, and is why I have spent 14 years being a hobby potter. I wasn't willing to sacrifice the peace and joy of my passion. But recently I have been CAREFULLY considering making a business of it. I'm watching multiple artists doing it and learning from them. Including you. Thank you! 😊
Hello to a fellow potter. I appreciate your point of view and all the wisdom you are willing to share. Your upbeat attitude is refreshing and encouraging. Your latest video on starting a business was of particular interest to me. I think our nature is to feel that we SHOULD be making money. When, in reality as you so aptly observed : It is perfectly acceptable to have a hobby. Some people golf, or sew,. Why not pottery. I ran a successful Ceramic business in the 80"s when that was a saturated market as well. It was indeed laborious and brutally competative. I began teaching myself pottery 3 years ago. similar to "ceramics, but very different. I really related to the advice to find your own style and not rush to market prematurely . Pottery is a lesson in patience for sure. You helped me to feel satisfied with my descision to remain a "hobbyist" untill I have perfected and honed my craft and developed my own style. Thanks so much. Christine Sanders USA
So appreciated. I feel like that’s the hardest when you start doing something you enjoy then your like oh business.then you start to lose the love. Thank you for this reminder as I start my pottery journey ❤
Thank you for all of this. Started out a printmaker (textiles) and then rediscovered clay in 2018, this time, hand building. Turns out - throwing isn't for everyone. Wanted to do something different, loved repetition and knew I wanted to work in clay in some capacity as my day job... and then found ceramic tiles. If you're new to clay - try everything!
I'm starting a pottery business as a part time thing. I tried to make it as a painter but couldn't sell anything. I ended up giving everything away to friends and family. I've sold a handful of stuff, but that was it. My other job was supporting my art habit. Then I asked a store owner what kind of artwork sells and her answer was useful art. So I was like pottery is useful art. Then I had my first show last year and did rather well. I inherited a kiln and have went from a community studio that was costing me more money to make the pottery than sell the pottery and so I rented a studio from a friend for several months and realized I really needed to have no overhead to sell pottery. So I decided to build a shed on my land and now I have no rent overhead and can actually make a profit selling pottery. I was kinda glad to move out of the community studio. I reallllĺy like being alone. We'll see how that pans out in the future but I'm pretty much happy being a hermit. I live a very isolated life and have social anxiety and can do social settings for a short time and then I'm done. For now it's a real relief and I'm glad to have my own studio.
it makes sense in a way, but I don’t get how anyone survives working a full time job they’re not passionate about with any energy left to spare for hobbies or enjoyment.
i took textiles and ceramics in art college. I was suprised how much i loved textiles, especially the dyeing, shibori, but ceramics was/is my first love for crafting. unfortunately for me I wasnt able to make enough to support my family, looking forward to retirement filled with ceramics .
It’s incredibly difficult to get it to a point where it can find a family. I am not there - I’m just incredibly lucky and privileged to live in a double income home.
Hey, my girl friend wants to start her pottery workshop so I'm looking to help her out by doing researches. In the end I feel like your feedback isn't only about pottery, it's about about rethinking the way you want to live of your passion, and it opened my eyes on the way I want to live that personally. Thanks for this great content !
This was really helpful! And while I have no intention of starting a pottery business I think your advice can easily be applied to other businesses as well (textiles in my case). 😊
thanks for the video, very useful! i have been doing pottery for more than 15 years now - i started off making functional wares and became a sculptor and have been making art ceramics now. i don’t find doing both at the same time a conflict, and you can do both well if worked hard enough - it just means its monumental effort. some of my ceramics sculptor friends they have a functional ware sub brand as their bread and butter to keep their art going and it works! ✨ side note can you tell us a bit more how you find your style? :)
thankyou so much for this video! and thanku for also sharing the somewhat the "bitter" side of being a full time potter, still in my dream bcs most of the obstacle is from financial issues, currently still practicing as a hobby, but who knows someday it'll become full time^^ anyway, best of luck to you!
Very helpful and reassuring for me ❤ my husband suggests I monetize my pieces but my head and heart are in the hobby land. I shall continue on with this hobby and enjoy it 😊
Thank you for sharing! I just started my You Tube channel and am trying to figure out how to fund my hobby. I appreciate your advice to not stress about monetizing it. 😊
Honestly please don’t feel the need to make it into your job! Think of your job as a means to fund your hobby - downtime is so important and as soon as it’s a side hustle it gains so much pressure. 🤍
So helpful but I might need to sign up for your mentoring help. As a relatively new potter I cringe at the quality of my products and worry that I shouldn't be selling yet. I have a distinct style and my Maori patterned functional ware is niche and my market finds me online and they love it and everything sells out instantly - so I wonder if it's just me worrying about quality when actually I feel uncomfortable selling. I don't like selling anything. Maybe I should not ever have pottery as a business. I think I should keep pottery as a hobby...but I already started it as a business... (sorry - that's me talking to myself on your UA-cam Channel). 😅
If you could go back, would you keep ceramics as a hobby then? Knowing that you would not experience the success and all good things you lived with ceramics? Do you think the success you found wasn’t worth the burnt out (knowing that you are on the other side of it now)? Just really curious! Thanks for the video and sharing your experience!
Pottery is NOT a great thing to pick up as a casual hobby because it is very expensive. Even a basic, functional wheel will cost you over £1000 and the kilns are about £2000 upwards. Then you need either your own home studio or to pay for access to a studio. If you don't own a kiln, you have to think finding a studio to fire your work. Sadly, a lot of the arts are for wealthier people and a bit of a luxury to invest in before you can turn it into a career. The best course to join if you want to learn is a longer college course as a lot of the indie courses get really expensive and are v limited.
As a hobby, there are ways to start for free. You don't have to spend hella money. My wheel was $200 and it worked just fine but you don't even need a kiln to get started. You can also fire pottery in your backyard depending on where you live or even outside somewhere in nature for basically free if it's a pit fire and very cheap or even free if it's a brick kiln which can be assembled easily. Clay can be sourced for free virtually anywhere in nature. It's easy to just practice and learn from UA-cam videos as well if you're a beginner. This guy makes videos on how to start for free/cheap: youtube.com/@ancientpottery?si=Kfx2muI-gl0qF5Fs
I'm looking for a ceramic company the USA. So are in the USA or UK? Also do you know of a good company in the USA? Greetings from Nashville Tennessee..
Well said. However, I do see real difference between duplication and replication. Duplication is much more copy paste to me whereas replication is taking an established idea and refining it. As I have been told many times, there is nothing original in ceramics :). Not sure I believe that but would suggest the “new” is just more creativity, and as you say, your voice
I've been told so many times that "everything has been invented already" by people who copy other potter's work. That is just an excuse not to work on your creativity and find your own style. It's the easy way.
@@Hooyahfish you’re in control of your life and have agency over the choices you make. I understand I’m in a very privileged position but I make the life I want to live ✌️
hobby being monetized is the WORST if you love programming, if you love making music, for god sake, don't make yourself hate your passion you will NEVER be allowed to write programs you love at work, you will never be able to engineer what you want; your boss decides T__T I have no solution for this quandry, I do hobbies on the side, work a horrible office job, and wish I didn't
Thank you so much for starting with a warning to protect your Joy, to protect the Hobby.
I used to be a circus artist. Went to circus school, worked for Cirque du Soleil, Worked in a swiss touring circus, worked in the German Cabaret circuit, kept that career up for a decade. And after I stopped I did no circus for a good 6 years, because I had crushed every iota of joy that circus once bought me. I only now have gotten back into it as a hobby, and get to do it for fun again, and I don't ever plan on trying to monetize it again.
I so appreciate your perspective on the business of pottery. It aligns with what I have seen in most artistic business pursuits, and is why I have spent 14 years being a hobby potter. I wasn't willing to sacrifice the peace and joy of my passion. But recently I have been CAREFULLY considering making a business of it. I'm watching multiple artists doing it and learning from them. Including you. Thank you! 😊
You’re welcome! I think if you respect the joy of it first, then it can be very fulfilling. Just make sure to take care with it!
I completely appreciate your advice re continuing the art and fun. Totally changed my plans for today :)
Very helpful tips. So generous of you to share. Guarding the sanctity of the hobby - invaluable.
God bless you
Hello to a fellow potter. I appreciate your point of view and all the wisdom you are willing to share. Your upbeat attitude is refreshing and encouraging. Your latest video on starting a business was of particular interest to me. I think our nature is to feel that we SHOULD be making money. When, in reality as you so aptly observed : It is perfectly acceptable to have a hobby. Some people golf, or sew,. Why not pottery. I ran a successful Ceramic business in the 80"s when that was a saturated market as well. It was indeed laborious and brutally competative. I began teaching myself pottery 3 years ago. similar to "ceramics, but very different. I really related to the advice to find your own style and not rush to market prematurely . Pottery is a lesson in patience for sure. You helped me to feel satisfied with my descision to remain a "hobbyist" untill I have perfected and honed my craft and developed my own style. Thanks so much. Christine Sanders USA
So appreciated. I feel like that’s the hardest when you start doing something you enjoy then your like oh business.then you start to lose the love. Thank you for this reminder as I start my pottery journey ❤
Thank you for all of this. Started out a printmaker (textiles) and then rediscovered clay in 2018, this time, hand building. Turns out - throwing isn't for everyone.
Wanted to do something different, loved repetition and knew I wanted to work in clay in some capacity as my day job... and then found ceramic tiles. If you're new to clay - try everything!
I'm starting a pottery business as a part time thing. I tried to make it as a painter but couldn't sell anything. I ended up giving everything away to friends and family. I've sold a handful of stuff, but that was it. My other job was supporting my art habit. Then I asked a store owner what kind of artwork sells and her answer was useful art. So I was like pottery is useful art. Then I had my first show last year and did rather well. I inherited a kiln and have went from a community studio that was costing me more money to make the pottery than sell the pottery and so I rented a studio from a friend for several months and realized I really needed to have no overhead to sell pottery. So I decided to build a shed on my land and now I have no rent overhead and can actually make a profit selling pottery. I was kinda glad to move out of the community studio. I reallllĺy like being alone. We'll see how that pans out in the future but I'm pretty much happy being a hermit. I live a very isolated life and have social anxiety and can do social settings for a short time and then I'm done. For now it's a real relief and I'm glad to have my own studio.
The quickest way to hate what you love is to do it professionally. The most real statement an artist / artisan could make.
it makes sense in a way, but I don’t get how anyone survives working a full time job they’re not passionate about with any energy left to spare for hobbies or enjoyment.
@@jasperl1531if you don’t have the energy to do something you love, you don’t love it. Diet and developing advantageous values also helps.
Bravo!!!!! Agree. I see this so often. Just enjoy and when you want to make this a career, business plan and practice!
i took textiles and ceramics in art college. I was suprised how much i loved textiles, especially the dyeing, shibori, but ceramics was/is my first love for crafting. unfortunately for me I wasnt able to make enough to support my family, looking forward to retirement filled with ceramics .
It’s incredibly difficult to get it to a point where it can find a family. I am not there - I’m just incredibly lucky and privileged to live in a double income home.
Super valuable insight from a fellow artist. I appreciate your wisdom. Thank you:)
Hey, my girl friend wants to start her pottery workshop so I'm looking to help her out by doing researches. In the end I feel like your feedback isn't only about pottery, it's about about rethinking the way you want to live of your passion, and it opened my eyes on the way I want to live that personally. Thanks for this great content !
Thank you for that kind of video
This is super helpful! Thank you! 💖
This was really helpful! And while I have no intention of starting a pottery business I think your advice can easily be applied to other businesses as well (textiles in my case). 😊
thanks for the video, very useful! i have been doing pottery for more than 15 years now - i started off making functional wares and became a sculptor and have been making art ceramics now. i don’t find doing both at the same time a conflict, and you can do both well if worked hard enough - it just means its monumental effort. some of my ceramics sculptor friends they have a functional ware sub brand as their bread and butter to keep their art going and it works! ✨ side note can you tell us a bit more how you find your style? :)
thankyou so much for this video! and thanku for also sharing the somewhat the "bitter" side of being a full time potter, still in my dream bcs most of the obstacle is from financial issues, currently still practicing as a hobby, but who knows someday it'll become full time^^ anyway, best of luck to you!
Great tips!
Thank you so much, very helpful!! Have a wonderful weekend :)
Great video, thanks!
Very helpful and reassuring for me ❤ my husband suggests I monetize my pieces but my head and heart are in the hobby land. I shall continue on with this hobby and enjoy it 😊
Thank you for sharing! I just started my You Tube channel and am trying to figure out how to fund my hobby. I appreciate your advice to not stress about monetizing it. 😊
Honestly please don’t feel the need to make it into your job! Think of your job as a means to fund your hobby - downtime is so important and as soon as it’s a side hustle it gains so much pressure. 🤍
So helpful but I might need to sign up for your mentoring help. As a relatively new potter I cringe at the quality of my products and worry that I shouldn't be selling yet. I have a distinct style and my Maori patterned functional ware is niche and my market finds me online and they love it and everything sells out instantly - so I wonder if it's just me worrying about quality when actually I feel uncomfortable selling. I don't like selling anything. Maybe I should not ever have pottery as a business. I think I should keep pottery as a hobby...but I already started it as a business... (sorry - that's me talking to myself on your UA-cam Channel). 😅
This is beautiful by the way Mae is Portuguese means mother❤
I want to continue pottery as a hobby but I don’t know what to do with it all!!
Congratulations on your decade anniversary
If you could go back, would you keep ceramics as a hobby then? Knowing that you would not experience the success and all good things you lived with ceramics? Do you think the success you found wasn’t worth the burnt out (knowing that you are on the other side of it now)? Just really curious! Thanks for the video and sharing your experience!
How much do you make? That is the question
Great ❤
My plan is to have another job that will be my source of income and also make a little bit of money from my pottery
Pottery is NOT a great thing to pick up as a casual hobby because it is very expensive. Even a basic, functional wheel will cost you over £1000 and the kilns are about £2000 upwards. Then you need either your own home studio or to pay for access to a studio. If you don't own a kiln, you have to think finding a studio to fire your work. Sadly, a lot of the arts are for wealthier people and a bit of a luxury to invest in before you can turn it into a career. The best course to join if you want to learn is a longer college course as a lot of the indie courses get really expensive and are v limited.
I’ve spent about $1,000 in supplies and am almost ready to sell my first pieces.
It’s not that expensive.
One of the cheapest businesses to start.
hi there! local potter in the US- globally? definitely a tricky market- but there are markets in the US for sure! :)
As a hobby, there are ways to start for free. You don't have to spend hella money. My wheel was $200 and it worked just fine but you don't even need a kiln to get started. You can also fire pottery in your backyard depending on where you live or even outside somewhere in nature for basically free if it's a pit fire and very cheap or even free if it's a brick kiln which can be assembled easily. Clay can be sourced for free virtually anywhere in nature. It's easy to just practice and learn from UA-cam videos as well if you're a beginner. This guy makes videos on how to start for free/cheap:
youtube.com/@ancientpottery?si=Kfx2muI-gl0qF5Fs
I'm looking for a ceramic company the USA. So are in the USA or UK? Also do you know of a good company in the USA? Greetings from Nashville Tennessee..
Well said. However, I do see real difference between duplication and replication. Duplication is much more copy paste to me whereas replication is taking an established idea and refining it. As I have been told many times, there is nothing original in ceramics :). Not sure I believe that but would suggest the “new” is just more creativity, and as you say, your voice
I've been told so many times that "everything has been invented already" by people who copy other potter's work. That is just an excuse not to work on your creativity and find your own style. It's the easy way.
How did you decide on Mae Ceramics? Your name is Lilly, right?
My name is Lilly! My last name is Maetzig, so it comes from that 😌
If turning your passion into a business makes you hate your passion, imagine working 30 years in a job you hated to begin with.
@@Hooyahfish you’re in control of your life and have agency over the choices you make. I understand I’m in a very privileged position but I make the life I want to live ✌️
I feel like I've been snapped back to reality. Thank you...I think.
hobby being monetized is the WORST
if you love programming, if you love making music, for god sake, don't make yourself hate your passion
you will NEVER be allowed to write programs you love at work, you will never be able to engineer what you want; your boss decides T__T
I have no solution for this quandry, I do hobbies on the side, work a horrible office job, and wish I didn't