Ziggy, Thank you for your interesting contributions to this forum. I especially like your creative modifications. You have imagination and ability to show your creations, in a fun way. We benefit from you. Richard Ceballos
I know this is an old video Ziggy but just found your channel. One suggestion that I found works for me. I had a broken aluminum framing square so I drilled another hole in the tongue end( the 16 inch piece) mounted that to my rudder head so it stuck out a little. Used the same type of paint handle extender though mine gets a lot shorter, think it's three sections. Cut my roller handle to leave part of the roller mount part. I just slip the roller handle through a hole in the square and I can steer from anywhere on the boat, remove it when I'm not using it and also use it as my boat hook. Also, I keep my halyard in a loop, tie the bitter end to the same shackle. I somehow ended up with the halyard being pulled up the mast with no sail attached, not enough weight for it to come back down and had to lower the mast to retrieve it. No more. I also use a jamb cleat for the halyard. Made it just long enough that I hook the shackle over the top of the mast cleat and can stretch the line around the bottom of the cleat for storage when the sails off. When I'm anchored or whatever I often unhook the sail and run a Lucy light up the halyard. Gives nice light, anchor light and attracts the bugs up away from me. Just realized you were from Michigan. One of my favorite spots to sail is out of Sterling State Park, Monroe, sail out to the islands, it's about 30 miles to Bass Island/Put In Bay, state park there with a bay. Always seems the wind doesn't cooperate for the return trip, done that one in the dark a couple times. I have a tent with the same hole/elastic band and a soft kayak cover for the rear. Got a ton of good ideas from your mods, simple and effective. Really appreciate the vids. There is nothing, absolutely nothing half so worth doing as messing about in boats.
All good ideas. I was a liveaboard for 20 yrs in Detroit. Loved sailing Lake Huron. Did the Lake Erie runs many times to.. tha js for the shout. Lots of Michigan sailing on my website. www.ziggyland.com
22:56 I have a GUSTBUSTER umbrella that goes with me when I'm kayaking or on the beach, that thing keeps me shaded in the sun and dry in the rain and the wind just blows right through it.
Hi Ziggy, enjoyed your video , great looking little boat. I have a friend who has a 16 but i think the 17 is the way to go. I will be looking to buy one , but over here in Australia they few and far between. Happy sailing, regards Colin.
Do you have any suggestions regarding info on your electrical system.? I'll go back and watch your vid again but wondered if you had a good resource for smaller systems. Everything I'm finding is for bigger systems. I recognize that charge controller. Do you have a fuse block as well? And thanks for sharing.
I did a video on wiring a while back. Big tips are keep the wires and everything you can up high on small boats. Dryer the better. Feel free to ask me any questions. Here's a link. ua-cam.com/video/21yHvbIGQDc/v-deo.html
I owned a 2002 WR17 before sold it during my divorce and just picked up a 2017 WR17. I am now coming from a 55’ sailboat to a house and this WR17. I wanted to ask what size your display is for GPS. I am looking at the newer a Garmin 7” I think it is a UHD cv model. The small half screen isn’t going to cut it for me out on the Puget Sound. I need to be able to see it well I pretty nasty weather sometimes. I wanted to see what you had onboard so I can get a relative size comparison so I can decide the size. Thanks for everything!
I downsized from 34ft C&C sailboat to the WR17. I bought a Garmin Echomap Plus 63Cv. it has a 6 inch screen and it rocks. Downside is it is a big unit for a small boat. I could've got by with a smaller unit. Being right in front of your face it is bright at night. Upside, it is a big unit.. detail is nice. Most of the guys I sail with use Navionics on their phone but I want a dedicated nav unit. a.co/d/h8eD3vs
I use a Homedepot HDX heavy duty 3 gallon bucket with snap on screw top lids from amazon. Inside I keep Loo bags, I'll put a link at the end. It's a double bagging ziplock bag you open up and line the bucket with then close the bag up when done. about 3 uses per bag then leave it in the bucket bottom and use a fresh bag. a.co/d/1t85txE
@@mikelowmon4666 the Texas 200 kicks off in a few weeks. I like your idea, I may do a piece on how different ppl handle the poop issue all week. thanks!
Hey Ziggy, very nice video, best one I've seen yet. I love the modifications, though I'd do things a little differently. I'm one of those people that wants everything to be measured in grams! Do you know anyone that has a bowsprit modification article or video? Thanks a ton!
Not off the top of my head. There's some YT videos of ppl sailing them but I don't think I've seen one getting into the details of the mechanics. The old windrider forum if it's still accessible would be a good place to start. There is a new forum now started by my buddy Bruce that could give you an answer. windrider.freeforums.net/
@@ZiggyLavengood Great Ziggy, thanks for the link. I have tried to find new content on the old forum, but it seems to be shut down. I think the WR-17 will be an awesome boat for gunkholing in Baja - on the Pacific side in the summer, and throughout the Sea Of Cortez in the winter. Cheers!
@@ZiggyLavengood Hey Ziggy, one other thing (I forgot to mention) looking at the modifications, I was thinking about the additional weight of everything and wondering about other ways to achieve the same outcome. Take a look at this episode of Top Gear, where they show the world's first 3D printed car. The additive manufacturing these guys are doing is insane. One would have to question the logic of going to this extent to save a little weight, but these are really good ideas: ua-cam.com/video/OCto6qSjIXw/v-deo.html
I made lazy jacks and a topping lift. They are a bit redundant. Lazy jacks can be bought from windrider for $90 but the smart money is to go to their website and they have instructions and the measurements to make your own for cheap. www.nickelsboatworks.com/products/lazy-jack The jacks attach to the same ring as the shrouds and jib. The lazyjacks really make life easier. Once you have lazyjacks you really don't need the topping lift but it does come in handy rigging the sail and boom on and off the mast . Let me know if you need more details or anything. Thanks for the shout, Zig.
@@ZiggyLavengood Nice one Ziggy. We have ordered that and looking forward to getting in set up once it arrives. Here's a wee video on our (new) channel (inspired by yours) to share how we are getting on with some mods to our windrider 17. ua-cam.com/video/dWC-JpK3_oU/v-deo.html One other question on the frame you made from UPvC pipe. How did you get the eye bolt held into the pipe (what's keeping it in place)? Cheers
sorry it took so long to reply, some how the comment slipped by me. I drilled a hole in an end cap and bolted the eye bolt through it then cemented the cap to the pipe. easy stuff. good luck on the new channel! looks good. I subscribed and will be following you. Zig
@@ZiggyLavengood - thanks Ziggy... we were at the modifications of the frame today and we are adding electrics this week.. good fun stuff. Just back from driving the north coast 500 so maybe a non-boat video coming if I can get my act together :)
Also, I have a chance at a Windrider with the foils but am concerned they're such a rarity. And they don't hold but I believe 475 lbs.. Looks super fast and fun but just less versatile. Not sure they'd be fun in light winds. I weigh 250. Thoughts?
They rock. I've wanted to sail one for years. Don't think I would buy one just cause it's a special purpose boat. Gotta have deeper water with no obstacles that could tear out the wings. But if you have the right lake it would be a blast. Not many of them left. Parts would be tricky too.
Hi Ziggy, thanks for your advice. You gave me hope in one of your videos when you said you were 6’4”” tall and 300 lbs. I’m 6’2” tall and 266lbs. You said you had raised the seat 3” to make entry into the aft cockpit easier. I tried that but due to the shape of the WR I had to move the seat forward about 6” which meant it was impossible to enter. Did you change the cockpit seat from the original one to a narrower one? What Im asking is we are both big guys but you are a little bigger, what’s the secret of easy entry to the aft cockpit. We are still on lockdown in Scotland. I would like to run up the North Sea coast to Inverness and then down Loch Ness this summer, it’s about 130 miles so a nice trip over probably 4 days weather permitting. One other thing I want to keep the boom rigged. I see you have done that any advice. Thanks Donald Paterson.
Donald Paterson thanks for the shout. I put 2 blocks of a 4x4 crossways. Then I pushed the seat as far back as I could wedging it in. The hinges are in there tight.. The blocks are 3.5 inched square. Maybe that little bit extra made a difference . I'll take a look as it tomorrow and see if it refreshes my memory and snap a pic for you.
I took a few pictures today of where my seat mounted. hope it helps. click on the link to my website and you will see the pics. I can't post pics here. Good luck, Zig. ziggyland.com/WindriderSeat.html
Haven’t seen Ziggy posting for a few weeks (today is 6th June 2021) Does anyone know if he’s ok or not. A bunch of people over here in Scotland miss your postings Ziggy.
Doing great. Had my dad visiting from Massachusetts for a week so I've been tied up cleaning house and entertaining guests. Right after that the creek my cabin sits on flooded twice real bad putting my dock several feet under water. When the water flowed out it took my dock with it. Left the posts though so I can replace it. This week I'm prepping the boat for the Texas 200. That starts next weekend. You will see lots a videos of that. I did take a video today showing my camera set up like ppl have been asking for and will edit it up and post in tomorrow or the next day. Big adventure next week! I will be taking you bastards sailing! Zig...
I have a Rode mic mounted on the backside of the windscreen next to the GPS. keeps it protected from the wind and water and with the dead cat wind cover on it things work well. When I do the non sailing parts the same mic is mounted on the camera. Thanks!
5 t0 7lbs seems to be what I see most guys do. then you got to evaluate you planned use verses room involved storing it too. When I was anchoring my 34 fter it was ib water at least 8 feet deep and sometines as much as 30 so I carried a danforth and a bruce on the bow and a smaller danforth on the stern. The bruce was my go to anchor. But on my windrider I'm anchoring in a couple of feet max and mostly beached and the anchor is set on land. thus I don't get as technical as I use to. Now my main anchor is a 3 foot sand spike with a danforth or 3 put on the beach as back up. Sand spike. amzn.to/3f7c3Gu The sand spike bites into the beach really well. where I can pull a danforth loose with a good yank the spike stays planted. heres a guide to anchor weights fortressanchors.com/selection-guide/fortress/#:~:text=Fortress%20Selection%20Guide%20%20%20%20Boat%20Length,%20%2014-18%20%2018%20more%20rows%20
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Ziggy, Thank you for your interesting contributions to this forum. I especially like your creative modifications. You have imagination and ability to show your creations, in a fun way.
We benefit from you.
Richard Ceballos
Thank you very much. Zig
That was my dad, he recently passed away, left me his WINDRIDER. Your mods are good, I will adapt some.
I know this is an old video Ziggy but just found your channel.
One suggestion that I found works for me. I had a broken aluminum framing square so I drilled another hole in the tongue end( the 16 inch piece) mounted that to my rudder head so it stuck out a little. Used the same type of paint handle extender though mine gets a lot shorter, think it's three sections. Cut my roller handle to leave part of the roller mount part. I just slip the roller handle through a hole in the square and I can steer from anywhere on the boat, remove it when I'm not using it and also use it as my boat hook.
Also, I keep my halyard in a loop, tie the bitter end to the same shackle. I somehow ended up with the halyard being pulled up the mast with no sail attached, not enough weight for it to come back down and had to lower the mast to retrieve it. No more. I also use a jamb cleat for the halyard. Made it just long enough that I hook the shackle over the top of the mast cleat and can stretch the line around the bottom of the cleat for storage when the sails off. When I'm anchored or whatever I often unhook the sail and run a Lucy light up the halyard. Gives nice light, anchor light and attracts the bugs up away from me.
Just realized you were from Michigan. One of my favorite spots to sail is out of Sterling State Park, Monroe, sail out to the islands, it's about 30 miles to Bass Island/Put In Bay, state park there with a bay. Always seems the wind doesn't cooperate for the return trip, done that one in the dark a couple times. I have a tent with the same hole/elastic band and a soft kayak cover for the rear.
Got a ton of good ideas from your mods, simple and effective. Really appreciate the vids.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing half so worth doing as messing about in boats.
All good ideas. I was a liveaboard for 20 yrs in Detroit. Loved sailing Lake Huron. Did the Lake Erie runs many times to.. tha js for the shout. Lots of Michigan sailing on my website. www.ziggyland.com
22:56 I have a GUSTBUSTER umbrella that goes with me when I'm kayaking or on the beach, that thing keeps me shaded in the sun and dry in the rain and the wind just blows right through it.
I'll check them out, thanks, Zig
Good stuff. I just bought an old Windrider 16 I plan to fix up for camping, maybe the Everglades Challenge- we will see how it goes.
awesome! keep me posted on your set up, Zig
Hi Ziggy, enjoyed your video , great looking little boat.
I have a friend who has a 16 but i think the 17 is the way to go.
I will be looking to buy one , but over here in Australia they few and far between.
Happy sailing, regards Colin.
yeah the 17 is the way to go. but grab what you can. Thanks for the shout from way over there, Zig
Nice mods Ziggy, love em
Thanks.
Thanks for posting this video! Even though I don’t have a trimaran you gave me about a half dozen ideas. I really like the umbrella mod for sure.
cool looking fun boat
Thank You. It's so versatile customizing it is half the fun. Zig
Good to see the mods, Waiting to see your next trip!! Still looking purchase a used Windrider 17 until then will be sailing with you!!
Coming soon!
Love the videos! Maybe is see ya around Matagorda/Sargent. My favorite place to fish! Stay safe and keep up the great videos!
Thanks! Gotta love Sargent.
As always great video Señor, I appreciate this and the last video you posted, I got many ideas from you, will make a video shortly
hey brother, good to hear from you again. even gave you a shout out in a video after we last talked. Journey well my friend.
Looks cool
Thanks.
Do you have any suggestions regarding info on your electrical system.? I'll go back and watch your vid again but wondered if you had a good resource for smaller systems. Everything I'm finding is for bigger systems. I recognize that charge controller. Do you have a fuse block as well? And thanks for sharing.
I did a video on wiring a while back. Big tips are keep the wires and everything you can up high on small boats. Dryer the better.
Feel free to ask me any questions.
Here's a link.
ua-cam.com/video/21yHvbIGQDc/v-deo.html
I owned a 2002 WR17 before sold it during my divorce and just picked up a 2017 WR17. I am now coming from a 55’ sailboat to a house and this WR17. I wanted to ask what size your display is for GPS. I am looking at the newer a Garmin 7” I think it is a UHD cv model. The small half screen isn’t going to cut it for me out on the Puget Sound. I need to be able to see it well I pretty nasty weather sometimes. I wanted to see what you had onboard so I can get a relative size comparison so I can decide the size. Thanks for everything!
I downsized from 34ft C&C sailboat to the WR17. I bought a Garmin Echomap Plus 63Cv. it has a 6 inch screen and it rocks. Downside is it is a big unit for a small boat. I could've got by with a smaller unit. Being right in front of your face it is bright at night.
Upside, it is a big unit.. detail is nice. Most of the guys I sail with use Navionics on their phone but I want a dedicated nav unit.
a.co/d/h8eD3vs
I have to ask this question. How do you deal with the bathroom part while out camp sailing?
I use a Homedepot HDX heavy duty 3 gallon bucket with snap on screw top lids from amazon. Inside I keep Loo bags, I'll put a link at the end. It's a double bagging ziplock bag you open up and line the bucket with then close the bag up when done. about 3 uses per bag then leave it in the bucket bottom and use a fresh bag.
a.co/d/1t85txE
@@ZiggyLavengood I know it’s part of the ugly side of this kind of sailing but would be nice to see how it’s pulled off. Might be a new video😁
@@mikelowmon4666 the Texas 200 kicks off in a few weeks. I like your idea, I may do a piece on how different ppl handle the poop issue all week. thanks!
Hey Ziggy, very nice video, best one I've seen yet. I love the modifications, though I'd do things a little differently. I'm one of those people that wants everything to be measured in grams! Do you know anyone that has a bowsprit modification article or video? Thanks a ton!
Not off the top of my head. There's some YT videos of ppl sailing them but I don't think I've seen one getting into the details of the mechanics. The old windrider forum if it's still accessible would be a good place to start. There is a new forum now started by my buddy Bruce that could give you an answer.
windrider.freeforums.net/
@@ZiggyLavengood Great Ziggy, thanks for the link. I have tried to find new content on the old forum, but it seems to be shut down. I think the WR-17 will be an awesome boat for gunkholing in Baja - on the Pacific side in the summer, and throughout the Sea Of Cortez in the winter. Cheers!
@@ZiggyLavengood Hey Ziggy, one other thing (I forgot to mention) looking at the modifications, I was thinking about the additional weight of everything and wondering about other ways to achieve the same outcome. Take a look at this episode of Top Gear, where they show the world's first 3D printed car. The additive manufacturing these guys are doing is insane. One would have to question the logic of going to this extent to save a little weight, but these are really good ideas: ua-cam.com/video/OCto6qSjIXw/v-deo.html
Ziggy do you have another video where you talk about how you keep the boom rigged? Is it lazy jacks if so any recommendations on size for a novice?
I made lazy jacks and a topping lift.
They are a bit redundant. Lazy jacks can be bought from windrider for $90 but the smart money is to go to their website and they have instructions and the measurements to make your own for cheap.
www.nickelsboatworks.com/products/lazy-jack
The jacks attach to the same ring as the shrouds and jib.
The lazyjacks really make life easier.
Once you have lazyjacks you really don't need the topping lift but it does come in handy rigging the sail and boom on and off the mast .
Let me know if you need more details or anything. Thanks for the shout, Zig.
@@ZiggyLavengood Nice one Ziggy. We have ordered that and looking forward to getting in set up once it arrives. Here's a wee video on our (new) channel (inspired by yours) to share how we are getting on with some mods to our windrider 17. ua-cam.com/video/dWC-JpK3_oU/v-deo.html
One other question on the frame you made from UPvC pipe. How did you get the eye bolt held into the pipe (what's keeping it in place)? Cheers
sorry it took so long to reply, some how the comment slipped by me. I drilled a hole in an end cap and bolted the eye bolt through it then cemented the cap to the pipe. easy stuff.
good luck on the new channel! looks good. I subscribed and will be following you. Zig
@@ZiggyLavengood - thanks Ziggy... we were at the modifications of the frame today and we are adding electrics this week.. good fun stuff. Just back from driving the north coast 500 so maybe a non-boat video coming if I can get my act together :)
@@letsdoit8681 that looks like a kick ass road trip!!
Also, I have a chance at a Windrider with the foils but am concerned they're such a rarity. And they don't hold but I believe 475 lbs.. Looks super fast and fun but just less versatile. Not sure they'd be fun in light winds. I weigh 250. Thoughts?
I think it's called a RAVE or something. They discontinued production. Maybe that's a sign..
They rock. I've wanted to sail one for years. Don't think I would buy one just cause it's a special purpose boat. Gotta have deeper water with no obstacles that could tear out the wings. But if you have the right lake it would be a blast. Not many of them left. Parts would be tricky too.
How fast do you go with that motor?
I cruise at 6mph at half throttle on a clam day, rough water of stiff head wind can knock that down.
Wasn’t that long ago most of us old blokes hated plastic (wasn’t very good plastic though) Nowadays it’s the only way to go if you can.
So true... I want a boat built by Rubbermaid! hehe. hose it down and drip dry.
Hi Ziggy, thanks for your advice. You gave me hope in one of your videos when you said you were 6’4”” tall and 300 lbs. I’m 6’2” tall and 266lbs. You said you had raised the seat 3” to make entry into the aft cockpit easier. I tried that but due to the shape of the WR I had to move the seat forward about 6” which meant it was impossible to enter. Did you change the cockpit seat from the original one to a narrower one? What Im asking is we are both big guys but you are a little bigger, what’s the secret of easy entry to the aft cockpit.
We are still on lockdown in Scotland. I would like to run up the North Sea coast to Inverness and then down Loch Ness this summer, it’s about 130 miles so a nice trip over probably 4 days weather permitting.
One other thing I want to keep the boom rigged. I see you have done that any advice.
Thanks
Donald Paterson.
Donald Paterson thanks for the shout. I put 2 blocks of a 4x4 crossways. Then I pushed the seat as far back as I could wedging it in. The hinges are in there tight.. The blocks are 3.5 inched square. Maybe that little bit extra made a difference . I'll take a look as it tomorrow and see if it refreshes my memory and snap a pic for you.
I took a few pictures today of where my seat mounted. hope it helps. click on the link to my website and you will see the pics. I can't post pics here. Good luck, Zig. ziggyland.com/WindriderSeat.html
Haven’t seen Ziggy posting for a few weeks (today is 6th June 2021) Does anyone know if he’s ok or not. A bunch of people over here in Scotland miss your postings Ziggy.
Doing great. Had my dad visiting from Massachusetts for a week so I've been tied up cleaning house and entertaining guests. Right after that the creek my cabin sits on flooded twice real bad putting my dock several feet under water. When the water flowed out it took my dock with it. Left the posts though so I can replace it. This week I'm prepping the boat for the Texas 200.
That starts next weekend. You will see lots a videos of that.
I did take a video today showing my camera set up like ppl have been asking for and will edit it up and post in tomorrow or the next day.
Big adventure next week!
I will be taking you bastards sailing! Zig...
You could use a remote microphone, wearable, to improve sound level. Dan S from Michigan& S. Texas
I have a Rode mic mounted on the backside of the windscreen next to the GPS. keeps it protected from the wind and water and with the dead cat wind cover on it things work well. When I do the non sailing parts the same mic is mounted on the camera. Thanks!
What size anchor is recommended for the 17?
5 t0 7lbs seems to be what I see most guys do. then you got to evaluate you planned use verses room involved storing it too. When I was anchoring my 34 fter it was ib water at least 8 feet deep and sometines as much as 30 so I carried a danforth and a bruce on the bow and a smaller danforth on the stern. The bruce was my go to anchor. But on my windrider I'm anchoring in a couple of feet max and mostly beached and the anchor is set on land. thus I don't get as technical as I use to. Now my main anchor is a 3 foot sand spike with a danforth or 3 put on the beach as back up.
Sand spike.
amzn.to/3f7c3Gu
The sand spike bites into the beach really well. where I can pull a danforth loose with a good yank the spike stays planted.
heres a guide to anchor weights
fortressanchors.com/selection-guide/fortress/#:~:text=Fortress%20Selection%20Guide%20%20%20%20Boat%20Length,%20%2014-18%20%2018%20more%20rows%20
25 WATT solar panel.... Not worth editing the video. thanks.