Instead, we hardcore fans who wants has to resort to fanfiction cuz DC is too busy wasting with giving lame characters series first like Kite man, ooof.
Considering how badly live action dc adaptations have been with the exception of nolan (bless him), id much rather he not get one. I do hope he gets an animated one tho
However, she does not lord this over him or disrespect him either, not publically or privately. She may not always agree with him, but she always has his back.
They were the best. I hate they didn't use that part for the story outside of the comics, because it's essential for Damian's development that Dick was the first one to train him rather than Bruce. Just like Bruce, Damian needed Dick to keep him from the darkness.
As a testament to Batman's parenting, when a Superman of another Earth was trying to convince Batman to join him to replace the current Earth as it has become "too dark and less heroic", Bruce only asked one question, "Was Dick Grayson a worst man on my Earth than he was in yours?". This alternate Superman had to agree that Grayson was as good and heroic (maybe better) on this Earth as he was on the alt Earth. This gave Batman the right push to fight for his current Earth's survival (source: Infinite Crisis)
That was the original Superman...who had forgotten who he was...because he'd been hanging around Alexander Luthor too much, same with Superboy-Prime. Superboy-Prime wanted to have fun again and live happily ever after and so did the original Superman, but the whole mess was started simply because Alexander Luthor was bored so he decides to ask Superboy-Prime if he wants to play a new game...called "Does Superboy want to be a villain?" Superboy-Prime ever over-eager while being down in the dumps agrees...and drinks villain-soda.
It’s totally okay to be introverted but make sure u define what the means, and introverted person doesn’t need to be an isolated person, introversion means you gain emotional energy from being in a more comfortable intimate environment such as your room, and house. You can be social and be an introvert it’s just being aware when that social battery is running low! Self awareness is key. You’ve got this!
There’s nothing wrong with introversion! Be what you like! But there’s also no denying that building bonds with healthy people and have healthy relationships is very beneficial to anyone
That exchange where Dick is like, “Damian I’m not interrogating; just taking an interest,” and Damian just pauses and is like, “Oh.” Is so fucking wholesome because it implies a lot about what Damian typically gets from Batman, which is controlling tendencies focused on permission. Damian is like, “Hey, maybe my brother really isn’t my dad, he’s something cool that I don’t have to constantly compete with for authority over my life.” It’s very wholesome and shows why Dick is the best character. I love him so much.
And that is literally what a hero is supposed to do, inspire people and give them hope. That’s why Batman said his biggest achievement was Dick Grayson
I love how you mention and state the fact that Dick is also a big brother figure, not just a leader or a fighter, he plays a important role in many of the titans characters stories, be platonic or romantically.
When we talk about "toxic masculinity" is not that all masculinity is toxic. Is just that certain imposed aspects that btw also make men miserable. There is not a single or correct way to "be a man". There is nothing wrong with showing feelings or expressing vulnerability, etc.
Even thought Bruce Wayne/ Batman didn't really have the potential to fully become an integrated man/ individual, he was nonetheless able to raise one with Robin/ Dick Grayson. He knew what to pass on to his adpoted son to help him succeed him as a hero and as a man, and what to protect him from so that he didn't become a repeat of himself, or something even worse.
I had this massive crush on Dick Grayson when I was a preteen, and he's still one of my favorites DC characters. I can picture various formations of the Titans, but I can't picture one Dick's not in it. I also don't understand why some people try to make him the heir of the Batman mantle, he's not Batman, and that's not a bad a thing at all.
It's not that he isn't this own hero. It's that he is the natural heir of the Batman family because honestly he is a better hero than Bruce. Bruce, for all that he sacrifices, is such a flawed man. He took in those kids so they wouldn't become that scared kid who doesn't really know happiness. Now don't get me wrong neither man would be who they become without Pennyworth.
he isn't batman, which is why he can make batman better. he can make batman the hopeful figure bruce wants him to be more so than bruce does. he genunely is the hero that gotham doesn't deserve but needs & he was since he was robin.
@mus7c but since its comics and they need to sell their garbage bruce will never fully have this kind of developpement The same way criminals break out from the asylum
The fact that there are now more villain based shows out or shows coming out than there are about the parts of the Batfamily that aren’t Batman or characters like Nightwing who actually deserve a show
Fantastic video essay, I find the discussion around Masculinity such an important conversation to have in our current social climate. Society changes often and to not lose yourself within that change is videos and discussions like this.
The Ninja Turtles would be fun to go over, each of them in their own video or analyzing each of them in one video. For my entire life it's been hard to pick a favorite, I've strongly related to all of them at different points and I'm very similar to the Turtles without even trying to be, likely from growing up with them since I was too young to remember.
I know this is mostly Nightwing centered (which i totally agree, i love him so much, he's amazing) but it says a lot about Batman's character how he fully saw himself reflected in Richard and instead of taking the boy in the same path as him, he worked into trying him to be, not just a better version of Batman, but be his best person, to understand his own lackings and try for Richard to be better than that.
Love this channel, it really challenges, my preconceived, notions and beliefs…I may not initially agree with everything you present, it really challenges me to think outside my box
hey, thank you for this video about one of my favorite characters! your thoughtful, measured analysis gave me a whole new appreciation for dick grayson. i also appreciate seeing content creators out there shining a light on positive representations of masculinity. it's a gap that desperately needs to be filled.
i think what makes Nightwing such a fan favourite (and Bruce's as well) is the fact that we as a generation grew up with him, watching him grow from Robin to Nightwing and his journey to step away from being Batman's side-kick. Even more, i think its his Eldest-brother syndrome and his constant care for the other bat siblings which make him someone who challenges masculinity. theres this issue where a grown up Dick asks Bruce why he adopted Jason and Tim but not him; and he tries to be this constant companion for the other Robins in ways that Bruce (just in his 20s) couldnt be for him
I’d like to see you tackle JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure one day. Possible characters include Jonathan, Dio, Jotaro, Joseph, or even Bruno. The Pillar Men are interesting characters to explore too. But other than that, great video as always!
THIS. For a while, I’ve considered this concept: What is a man actually supposed to be/do? A man is meant to be strong yet gentle like Jonathan Joestar A man is meant to be smart, clever and tactical yet allowed to express his emotions and be vulnerable like Joseph Joestar A man is supposed to act with justice, not using their power to dominate the weak, but using their power to protect the weak and take down the evil, like Jotaro Kujo A man is meant to be compassionate and prioritise family and community like Josuke Higashikata A man is supposed to have ambition but also temper that ambition with honour and care like Giorno Giovanna
Nightwing is my favorite character from DC, what I like about him the most is what I saw in the Gotham Knights game(I think it was there), he's everything you said in the video AND he even destroys the concept that bisexual men are not "masculine enough" or "less man that a straight man", he displays every quality you've shown in this great video and even adds this cool and much needed representation. (and everyone talking about how he has a huge ass is so fcking funny).
@@Zer01-f6s also in gotham knights there's a cutscene where he drinks out of a mug with the bisexual pride flag on it. even if it isn't canon, there are definitely folks behind the scenes who resonate with that identity for nightwing. :) also, to the people who are so threatened/triggered by the idea, consider this: he is a fictional character. people taking what they want or projecting their own selves on a fictional character will not detract from your preconceptions or your enjoyment. i promise.
I wish I could be positively masculine instead of toxic as well toxin. I also could never date someone taller than me I feel annoyed when I see someone taller than me and feel inferior even with men.I am 5'10 but still. Oh,well...maybe in the next time.
joking help...I am a hobbit and that it is only "cute" if you are looking for a date, my hobbit ways are being mad in my own house cause I do not reach almost any of the ligth bolds in the house, but it is what it is, and like a hobbit I will still enjoy life with a litthe of sarcasm, it is good for the soul
Whats crazy is, being with a baddie taller than you should not immaculate you at all. Other ignorant men may make fun of you, but so many people dont even have a partner. Let alone a partner who actually loves them. Height and gender norms are social contructs anyway. Kori and Dick are the ultimate power couple😅
...other ignorant men make fun of you, but it's because they aren't with her - YOU are.....AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. That's what is really funny. Their jealousy, immaturity, insecurity and ignorance is why she rejects THEM, but chooses YOU. They are their own worst enemy. They get what they deserve - nothing.
Unpopular opnion:I think that DC comics Should Make Dick Grayson Bisexual and Tim Drake Robin Normal sexualty because rhe personalitys don't fit with Sexual preferences Dick is more Funny and Premiscuo and almost have Sex Everybody in DC comics and Tim is more Serious and more Smart.
Tim shouldn’t like men because he’s serious and smart? You realize that the man considered the father of computer science, the first creator of a computer, the man who cracked the ‘uncrackable’ nazi code, Alan Turing, was a gay man. A serious, genius, gay man.
@@jeangreyfan4148 I’m pointing out that what you’re saying makes no sense. Tim being smart doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be bi. There is no basis for your statement at all besides pure homophobia.
Batman has not failed any of his "children", though some have done better than others. Unfortunately, he ran out of time to help Jason, as he died in the line before he could gain the full benefit of Batman's wisdom. Prior to the New 52, Batman had found in Tim Drake his eventual successor. Tim is in his own way as dark and isolated as Batman, while also being given to the formulation of contingency plans for everyone around him. His development is such that he has impressed the likes of Lady Shiva, Deathstroke, and Ras A'Ghul, with the last giving him the appelation of "Detective" which peior had been reserved soley for Batman. He may be the least physically capaple of every Robin except Stephanie Brown, but he is their intellectual superior and the most like Batman. Damian is still a work in progress but is on a trajectory to follow Jason Todd, though if he ascends to the leadership of the Assassins, he may yet make a respectable institution of them thanks to his training with Batman.
you cant praise khabib dude who legit condoned beheding of a french teacher who took money from olygarchs and married his cousin, despicable human being when the vail of media gets uncovered him and connor the same
He needs his own film.
Agree, or at the very least a tv show or something
Definitely. He is a big enough hero to deserve a film and got some good enough villains like Deathstroke and Talon
Instead, we hardcore fans who wants has to resort to fanfiction cuz DC is too busy wasting with giving lame characters series first like Kite man, ooof.
Heck yeah he does
Considering how badly live action dc adaptations have been with the exception of nolan (bless him), id much rather he not get one.
I do hope he gets an animated one tho
He is not just comfortable with a woman taller than him, but with one that is much more powerful than he is.
However, she does not lord this over him or disrespect him either, not publically or privately. She may not always agree with him, but she always has his back.
@@jayt9608 Yes! Love how she and everybody else respects him even when heis the only one without powers!
....utimate sign of a secure, confident man - the OPPOSITE of a narcissist.
I'd argue a confident man has to narcissistic to a certain extent to be any of that @@c16621
to be fare kori and all tamaran is full of gigants
Nightwing is such a good guy even Damian quickly respected him.
Only person he has called the best
I love Dick and Damien’s relationship so much.
They were the best. I hate they didn't use that part for the story outside of the comics, because it's essential for Damian's development that Dick was the first one to train him rather than Bruce. Just like Bruce, Damian needed Dick to keep him from the darkness.
As a testament to Batman's parenting, when a Superman of another Earth was trying to convince Batman to join him to replace the current Earth as it has become "too dark and less heroic", Bruce only asked one question, "Was Dick Grayson a worst man on my Earth than he was in yours?". This alternate Superman had to agree that Grayson was as good and heroic (maybe better) on this Earth as he was on the alt Earth. This gave Batman the right push to fight for his current Earth's survival (source: Infinite Crisis)
awe, i love that!
That was the original Superman...who had forgotten who he was...because he'd been hanging around Alexander Luthor too much, same with Superboy-Prime. Superboy-Prime wanted to have fun again and live happily ever after and so did the original Superman, but the whole mess was started simply because Alexander Luthor was bored so he decides to ask Superboy-Prime if he wants to play a new game...called "Does Superboy want to be a villain?" Superboy-Prime ever over-eager while being down in the dumps agrees...and drinks villain-soda.
What issue is this? I wanna read it
Nightwing be making me wanna be more social and open, cause I’m the total opposite and I use my introverted personality as an excuse.
It’s totally okay to be introverted but make sure u define what the means, and introverted person doesn’t need to be an isolated person, introversion means you gain emotional energy from being in a more comfortable intimate environment such as your room, and house. You can be social and be an introvert it’s just being aware when that social battery is running low! Self awareness is key. You’ve got this!
There’s nothing wrong with introversion! Be what you like! But there’s also no denying that building bonds with healthy people and have healthy relationships is very beneficial to anyone
you should, it changed my life
Maturing is realizing it's more admirable to look up to and aspire to be someone like Nightwing than Batman
Both are inspirational.
So freaking true!
@@eoinoconnor5783 he didn’t say they weren’t. Stop looking for shit that’s not there.
Hell even Bruce says Grayson is better than him
Taking care of Dick and watching him grow into a great person is one of the few things Bruce can be proud of doing while just being Bruce Wayne.
That exchange where Dick is like, “Damian I’m not interrogating; just taking an interest,” and Damian just pauses and is like, “Oh.” Is so fucking wholesome because it implies a lot about what Damian typically gets from Batman, which is controlling tendencies focused on permission. Damian is like, “Hey, maybe my brother really isn’t my dad, he’s something cool that I don’t have to constantly compete with for authority over my life.” It’s very wholesome and shows why Dick is the best character. I love him so much.
To hear Batman say he's proud of Dick Grayson was definitely one of Dick's biggesr dubs
Why would he say that? Is he stupid?
i love dick
Nightwing makes me wanna be better at pushing through adversity and being there for the people in my life.
And that is literally what a hero is supposed to do, inspire people and give them hope. That’s why Batman said his biggest achievement was Dick Grayson
I love how you mention and state the fact that Dick is also a big brother figure, not just a leader or a fighter, he plays a important role in many of the titans characters stories, be platonic or romantically.
When we talk about "toxic masculinity" is not that all masculinity is toxic. Is just that certain imposed aspects that btw also make men miserable.
There is not a single or correct way to "be a man". There is nothing wrong with showing feelings or expressing vulnerability, etc.
Even thought Bruce Wayne/ Batman didn't really have the potential to fully become an integrated man/ individual, he was nonetheless able to raise one with Robin/ Dick Grayson. He knew what to pass on to his adpoted son to help him succeed him as a hero and as a man, and what to protect him from so that he didn't become a repeat of himself, or something even worse.
I had this massive crush on Dick Grayson when I was a preteen, and he's still one of my favorites DC characters. I can picture various formations of the Titans, but I can't picture one Dick's not in it. I also don't understand why some people try to make him the heir of the Batman mantle, he's not Batman, and that's not a bad a thing at all.
My sister likes him too she's like "starfire is lucky to have him"
It's not that he isn't this own hero. It's that he is the natural heir of the Batman family because honestly he is a better hero than Bruce. Bruce, for all that he sacrifices, is such a flawed man. He took in those kids so they wouldn't become that scared kid who doesn't really know happiness. Now don't get me wrong neither man would be who they become without Pennyworth.
he isn't batman, which is why he can make batman better. he can make batman the hopeful figure bruce wants him to be more so than bruce does. he genunely is the hero that gotham doesn't deserve but needs & he was since he was robin.
@mus7c but since its comics and they need to sell their garbage bruce will never fully have this kind of developpement
The same way criminals break out from the asylum
The fact that there are now more villain based shows out or shows coming out than there are about the parts of the Batfamily that aren’t Batman or characters like Nightwing who actually deserve a show
Make one about Red Hood next and how he shows perseverance and redemption
Fantastic video essay, I find the discussion around Masculinity such an important conversation to have in our current social climate. Society changes often and to not lose yourself within that change is videos and discussions like this.
Best DC character or atleast my favourite one
Both for me.
4:05 Now if the Tower of Babel is anything to go by, Batman takes time to know his fellow leaguers very well lol
The Ninja Turtles would be fun to go over, each of them in their own video or analyzing each of them in one video. For my entire life it's been hard to pick a favorite, I've strongly related to all of them at different points and I'm very similar to the Turtles without even trying to be, likely from growing up with them since I was too young to remember.
Nightwing is so cool, loved the video. My father does compare to Nightwing with how we are. I always enjoyed his character.
I know this is mostly Nightwing centered (which i totally agree, i love him so much, he's amazing) but it says a lot about Batman's character how he fully saw himself reflected in Richard and instead of taking the boy in the same path as him, he worked into trying him to be, not just a better version of Batman, but be his best person, to understand his own lackings and try for Richard to be better than that.
Now i definitely been waiting for this one
I love Nightwing he is one of my favorite characters in comics and in fiction.
Nightwing has always been my favorite superhero since i first saw him in the late 90s on The New Batman Adventures.
Love this channel, it really challenges, my preconceived, notions and beliefs…I may not initially agree with everything you present, it really challenges me to think outside my box
hey, thank you for this video about one of my favorite characters! your thoughtful, measured analysis gave me a whole new appreciation for dick grayson.
i also appreciate seeing content creators out there shining a light on positive representations of masculinity. it's a gap that desperately needs to be filled.
8:49 hot??? captions???
*HURT
Yeah that was a crazy mistake on my part lmao
The best Robin is Dick Grayson. Undisputed.
Hey man!
I frikin love nightwing.
Also, id like to suggest some characters for future videos.
Deadpool
Red hood
Winter soldier
Thor
Gambit
The flash
i think what makes Nightwing such a fan favourite (and Bruce's as well) is the fact that we as a generation grew up with him, watching him grow from Robin to Nightwing and his journey to step away from being Batman's side-kick. Even more, i think its his Eldest-brother syndrome and his constant care for the other bat siblings which make him someone who challenges masculinity. theres this issue where a grown up Dick asks Bruce why he adopted Jason and Tim but not him; and he tries to be this constant companion for the other Robins in ways that Bruce (just in his 20s) couldnt be for him
no wonder batfleck was so full emotional & rage this what happened after dick Grayson died
I’d like to see you tackle JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure one day. Possible characters include Jonathan, Dio, Jotaro, Joseph, or even Bruno. The Pillar Men are interesting characters to explore too.
But other than that, great video as always!
THIS. For a while, I’ve considered this concept:
What is a man actually supposed to be/do?
A man is meant to be strong yet gentle like Jonathan Joestar
A man is meant to be smart, clever and tactical yet allowed to express his emotions and be vulnerable like Joseph Joestar
A man is supposed to act with justice, not using their power to dominate the weak, but using their power to protect the weak and take down the evil, like Jotaro Kujo
A man is meant to be compassionate and prioritise family and community like Josuke Higashikata
A man is supposed to have ambition but also temper that ambition with honour and care like Giorno Giovanna
@@theguy8594 You said that perfectly!
@@bucciaratisimpWhy, Thank You Friend 😎👍🏽
@@theguy8594 A man is meant to get turned on by mosquito bites, like Johnny Joestar.
Keep doing ur series 🔥🔥🔥
Nightwing is my favorite character from DC, what I like about him the most is what I saw in the Gotham Knights game(I think it was there), he's everything you said in the video AND he even destroys the concept that bisexual men are not "masculine enough" or "less man that a straight man", he displays every quality you've shown in this great video and even adds this cool and much needed representation.
(and everyone talking about how he has a huge ass is so fcking funny).
Is it really canon that he is bisexual?
@@devonxxxx He is on the covers of some pride-edition comics (so it is kind of an assumed thing?) but has never been explicitly stated :>
Dude had to make it weird
@@Zer01-f6s also in gotham knights there's a cutscene where he drinks out of a mug with the bisexual pride flag on it. even if it isn't canon, there are definitely folks behind the scenes who resonate with that identity for nightwing. :)
also, to the people who are so threatened/triggered by the idea, consider this: he is a fictional character. people taking what they want or projecting their own selves on a fictional character will not detract from your preconceptions or your enjoyment. i promise.
@@Zer01-f6sisn't that Timmy? He's openly bisexual now
Dick has always been the best Robin, I love him…unironically
What a nice video. Well done.
Great video, thank you
I realized that your thumbnail WOULD MAKE THE BADDEST A55 T-SHIRT!!!!
Make a T-Shirt outta that!!! I'll buy one fur suuuureeee!
Thanks! But I'm not too sure about the legalities regarding it though.
Does batman and robin radiat a father and son relationship or do they radiate a brotherly relationship
Father-Son
Father-son. The brotherly relationship is more of him and the robins after him
great video essay
He's nice.
Another good video. Since people are suggesting characters for the next video I'm gonna stick with Saitama.
Another great video man! Could you do Alfred Pennyworth when you have the time?
I hope matt reeves cast the right actor to play nightwing, he need to be played by a very young athletic actor who knows martial arts
Another Good Work Man ! Can You Do Jon Snow Next ?
can u do one on captain america 🥺also great video man 🗣️
nc vid, subscribed
They need to make Batman half the Man Nightwing is.
I wish I could be positively masculine instead of toxic as well toxin. I also could never date someone taller than me I feel annoyed when I see someone taller than me and feel inferior even with men.I am 5'10 but still. Oh,well...maybe in the next time.
joking help...I am a hobbit and that it is only "cute" if you are looking for a date, my hobbit ways are being mad in my own house cause I do not reach almost any of the ligth bolds in the house, but it is what it is, and like a hobbit I will still enjoy life with a litthe of sarcasm, it is good for the soul
Then grow as a man, until it doesn't bother you anymore.
anyone can tell me where is the art shown at 4:26 from?
Whats crazy is, being with a baddie taller than you should not immaculate you at all.
Other ignorant men may make fun of you, but so many people dont even have a partner. Let alone a partner who actually loves them. Height and gender norms are social contructs anyway.
Kori and Dick are the ultimate power couple😅
...other ignorant men make fun of you, but it's because they aren't with her - YOU are.....AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
That's what is really funny. Their jealousy, immaturity, insecurity and ignorance is why she rejects THEM, but chooses YOU.
They are their own worst enemy. They get what they deserve - nothing.
Yes.
his the perfect Batman would become..the kind one
Have you ever thought about doing a masculinity video on optimus prime?
Do Thor next please ❤
And please don't stop making videos ❤
Invincible would be an interesting video
Would you makes any videos about the show Titans?
You should do a video about Optimus prime
Unpopular opnion:I think that DC comics Should Make Dick Grayson Bisexual and Tim Drake Robin Normal sexualty because rhe personalitys don't fit with Sexual preferences Dick is more Funny and Premiscuo and almost have Sex Everybody in DC comics and Tim is more Serious and more Smart.
Tim shouldn’t like men because he’s serious and smart? You realize that the man considered the father of computer science, the first creator of a computer, the man who cracked the ‘uncrackable’ nazi code, Alan Turing, was a gay man. A serious, genius, gay man.
@VampireBabysitter is unpopular opinion of course you have your point but hey is just opinion.
@@jeangreyfan4148 I’m pointing out that what you’re saying makes no sense. Tim being smart doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be bi. There is no basis for your statement at all besides pure homophobia.
Can u do one on tony stark
idk what to make of this video tbh
Only good type of masculinity
Why would he have so much resentment towards Batman for being in his shadow if he just wants to save people and do good?
Great video it's sad that you must have been demoneytized bc of the use of Disney properties
Batman has not failed any of his "children", though some have done better than others. Unfortunately, he ran out of time to help Jason, as he died in the line before he could gain the full benefit of Batman's wisdom.
Prior to the New 52, Batman had found in Tim Drake his eventual successor. Tim is in his own way as dark and isolated as Batman, while also being given to the formulation of contingency plans for everyone around him. His development is such that he has impressed the likes of Lady Shiva, Deathstroke, and Ras A'Ghul, with the last giving him the appelation of "Detective" which peior had been reserved soley for Batman. He may be the least physically capaple of every Robin except Stephanie Brown, but he is their intellectual superior and the most like Batman.
Damian is still a work in progress but is on a trajectory to follow Jason Todd, though if he ascends to the leadership of the Assassins, he may yet make a respectable institution of them thanks to his training with Batman.
Did he truely know jason before the pit
Batman might actually be TOO masculine; almost overbearing.
Bro my name is imran Two
Hello Imran
Bro having a gf taller than you is a positive tho???
Some people are insecure of this
you cant praise khabib dude who legit condoned beheding of a french teacher who took money from olygarchs and married his cousin, despicable human being when the vail of media gets uncovered him and connor the same
nice video essay but it aint that deep sometimes
What is bro talking about
NOBODY MESSES WITH NIGHTWING ❤