It's Finished! The Homemade Superbone
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
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This is perfection in the trombone world, no further improvements or leaps forward can be made
a 4th valve
@@big.poppa0615 trueee
Put the slide into 6th position, that will act as the 4th valve for the valve block
Compensating valve block.
@@donkultgen4643 compensating 4 valve block + both bass trombone valves
It's been awhile since I tuned in for one of these and dang, Trent! You're cutting quite the handsome figure these days! Whatever you're doing, keep up the good work!
I was just about to comment the same thing
Was just looking at thumbnails to get a time lapse of his face width. I just worry about the rebound. If you read this Trent don't forget to take breaks where you just maintain your weight for a little.
Same I haven't seen his videos in like 3 years and he slimmed down a lot
About to say the same thing!! Looking great Trent, keep up the solid horn content :))
Great job Trent! This was a difficult project but you pulled it off well. My high school band had one of the original Frank Holton Superbones in the instrument closet. It wasn’t in great condition but it was fun to play. It’s surprisingly ergonomic since they designed the valves to sit shorter and be easier to reach. We used it as a bass trombone replacement. Personally I loved it for jazz playing, if I had the money for one I’d try and get one of the Schagerl rotary models.
You should record a short piece written for instruments in various keys, Bb trumpet, F Horn, C trombone… but every part is played on this bone with slide transposition. No pesky rewriting or mentally transposing. Set the slide, play what’s written.
We really DO need to return to the days of composing songs for unorthodox instruments and instruments in rare/unusual keys. Guitar and bass seem to be the only ones using funny tunings and weird bells and whistles (string specific "benders" for example, or specific string count). The classics (and their composers) became such because of the perpetual experimentation and pushing the instruments and their players to the limits. Players of classical instruments need to reclaim that crown from the worlds of Rock-'n'-roll and Metal.
Ooh! Please build a trumpet which has ad-hoc transposition capabilities. No more difficult keys!
Might as well step up to making a Firebird then. It's the trumpet version of a Superbone, but the slide only has 4 positions.
Reminds me of the original design of the French horn, the natural horn. It could only play the natural harmonics, but you can change keys by changing the crooks and “transposing” the harmonics. Something like that but for the trumpet family would be interesting
I always learn something from your videos, Trent. Today I learned “ad hoc” means “out of tune.” Latin is no longer taught so much here in the United States of Americaland, so it’s good to pick up that phrase and I can’t wait to sprinkle it about in conversation with my friends down at the center of our culture, the 7-11 parking lot.
I might be misinterpreting sarcasm, but "ad hoc" doesn't mean out of tune at all, it means "exactly for that purpose"
@@xaitatYeah, I was trying to signal sarcasm through context, like the 7-11 line, but it’s tough in comments. Seriously, for all you know I do think of a Blueberry Slushie as haute cuisine.
@@waynesteffen3262 i realized a few seconds after posting that it was 100% sarcasm
Well done! Your deadpan voice sarcasm is so good sometimes I cannot tell which of you remarks are serious and which are not... Nonetheless good job on the instrument.
Hey Trent, haven’t seen one of your videos in awhile. Just wanted to let you know how much you impacted my inspiration when I first started out playing trombone. Also, you look amazing, I hope you enjoy the holiday season.
try changing the levers on your USSR cornet to be able to play it horizontally instead of vertically
Trent, you have amazing abilities how to totally bodge up successfully made instruments. I love your superb sarcasm!!! Keep it Sir. We need to see you on a daily basis with something new, if you can facilitate that!..... Kind regards from England. Den Finch.
It is in fact a perfect instrument
This is amazing! Could you play a song while slowly extending the main slide, to give a "falling" feeling?
OMG! After demonstrating every rare and weird brass instrument ever made, you are now developing your very own weird and wonderful creations to elevate the glory of lip-wind instruments to musical heights hitherto unimagined. Priceless.
I'm thinking: 7 valve positions x 7 slide positions = 49 possible ways to play a wrong note. Fun!
except a slide can have infinite in between positions, so 7 x infinity ways to play wrong notes
@@VVarlock_ You are correct. I was thinking of a reasonably proficient player...😁
@@VVarlock_ Come to think of it, you can half> valve notes on the valve side, too. That gives us an infinity of wrong notes on both sides of the horn. My head hurts!
There's no such thing as a wrong note, if you play it loud enough, everyone will think that was what's written...😄
Shagurl in Eastern Europe make a super bone using rotary valves that is quite spectacular. You can view its demonstration here on you tube. The valves are located near the front brace bt your left ear. James Morrison demos the instrument for all to hear.
Pretty dang spiffy.
It would be neat to see some attempts to clean up the cosmetic issues. This type of DIY brass instrument repair is pretty tricky and often yield results that make the overall appearance of an instrument go down rather than up despite the intent. So this is the perfect test bed for experimenting with such techniques since it might actually be impossible to make this ugboniphone look worse at this point.
It has been really cool to see you branch out into taking apart and resoldering brass instruments, and more of this would be great on some of your other project horns. But cosmetic repairs, refinishing/laquer would be fun to watch too.
Yes please, I really hope he sees this and takes it into consideration. Refinishing and lacquer is always fun to watch
That looks ace! Now all you need is to add a quarter-tone valve and it will be ready for the orchestra outing!
Did you lose weight Trent?
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It is impossible to change the primary key with a slide.
When the key is lowered by a semitone, the length of the tube required to lower the key by another semitone increases.
The 1-2pos length and the 2-3pos interval are longer in the latter.
It makes more sense to change the key with the valve and adjust the difference in spacing with the slide. Same for 7pos (2pos) fine adjustment when using the F valve.
(Sorry. I use Google traansrator.)
Simply incredible work!
They used to call me the superbone back in college but not because I was a band geek
(But seriously tho, this is such an incredible project! Amazing work, now make a supersousaphone 🤪)
I just subscribed after watching this video. It's been a while since I watched one of your videos and I didn't recognize you. Great job on the weight loss. It will be av great benefit as you get older. Trust me.
Might it be possible to flip the second valve back around and tuck its slide in between the valve block and the bell section? That would take the big lump out from under your palm, which I think would go a long way toward making the instrument not feel like a prototype. It would be worth it, because it sounds fine and that's always the most important part to solve.
Needs a percussion attachment
Maybe a bell or drum
honestly, get a stamp that says "New Zealand Custom" or something that sounds fancy, and sell it! ;) :P
Market it but place the joint that had been left out, in order to make it more robust, sound, and stable.
Bro how do you homemake an instrument? This is actually really impressive!
I see now why rotation about the longitudinal axis would have been silly.
All I see is a trumpet with a slide, or I guess a trombone with valves since that’s basically the only difference between the 2
Great work. But a "superbone" with only one bell? There's room for improvement there. Why settle for one bell when you can follow Adolphe Sax's fine example and make a trombone with not one, not two, but seven bells? Surely that will be true perfection.
This fenagled instrument is really quite interesting! It needs an interesting moniker....bass trombovalvophone....there you go....just like Santa....on the house!! Have fun!
Are you selling this? I need it for research purposes. I wanted to write a paper for my Trombone History class on Contemporary Trombone makings in the works. I think this is a prime exmaple of innovative design in the Trombone world. You are a leading inventor for us all keep up the great work.
I was laughing so much I had to rewind a couple of times to hear what you said next. Have you considered doing stand up comedy? I'm sure you'd be great at it with that deadpan sarcastic delivery.
It is perfect in every conceivable way...
Except in every way.
You could even transpose the trombone using the valves (sort of)
Hey Trent great video but I was watching some of your old videos and I just wanted to say how much better you look and well but also the confidence you’ve gained over the last 5 years or so, thanks for the vids
So I’ve been wondering about the possibility of making a soprano superbone. As far as I know, no one has made one. I’m thinking that a pocket trumpet may be the right thing to add to the slide section of a soprano trombone…what do you think?
Mr. Hamilton, I just want you to know how good you look sir, whatever you have been doing it’s working, you look amazing
he had a tapeworm apparently
Never have I wanted to play brass more. Can you play a tune with the trumpet bit while slowly detuning with the trombone like your batteries are falling 😃
have a plunger on a flap spring connected to the bell. rig up a trigger to you thumb so you can wah wah and superbone at the same time.
I was never a fan of the valve trombone. There are plenty of trumpets that can give you the same sound and tone quality. Other than the transposition option.
I love niche UA-cam stuff like this!
I mean this in the nicest yet funniest way... This is Andrew Garfield Spiderman if he was into music instead of being Spiderman.
Dang, I have a trombone and a trumpet that I would *LOVE* to merge!!
i honestly dont care if it looks like it is the creation of a trumpet and a trombone, i want it
Most of my superbones are homemade to
I can't get over the fact that I'm looking at skinny Trent now. xD
buy the largest indian sousaphone 25 inc. they became cheaper and began to cost $ 300. There are no reviews on youtube)
Add bass trombone triggers lol
This was super cool. I would love to see more experimental instruments in the future.
Next get a three trigger bass trombone and challenge yourself to trying to play higher tenor literature through only using the triggers and not the slide.
Trent what was the piece you played when shown your finished super bone?
Not knowing diddly over squat about playing (much less overhauling) brass instruments, I suppose I'll just have to take your word on this one
ah, so I can now play 144bpm 2/4 semiquavers with ease now. perfect. might throw in a few glisses here and there.
Make a trombone with a multi-wrapped slide? I once made a double wrap tenor, and it brought the fundamental down to D quarter flat. Using calculus, I estimate a third slide length would bring it down to Ab0 (so its pedal notes would begin right below the range of the piano.) Ab contrabass trombone. Then a fourth slide length would lower it to the E quarter flat below. You'd just have to figure out how to hold four adjacent slides and attach a sufficient counterweight for your E quarter flat subcontrabass trombone.
Perhaps making left handed superbone would allow not modifying the trumpet body so much.
Ultimatetrombone!
That's right people. Trombone. The sexiest and most virile of instruments...
Damn, you lost som weight, good for you man.
As a non trombonist the standard reply as to what you should do to improve the tone would be to launch it down a very deep pit followed by a few tonne of ballast! Other than that it seems quite a successful amalgamation of brass parts!😂
Up there with the Guttenberg Bible, and Neil Armstrong's hike on the moon.
early for yet another masterpiece
Totally insane, but so cool
I honestly want one I would genuinely pay good money for something so beutiful
Great job! It sounds great and this should be done for the trombonist who wants this variety of trombone.
is there room enough to graft a trumpet on for that multi-capable musician?
Congrats that's epic that you finished such an undertaking of a project!
You should try adding a rotary trigger to make it that much better. But other than that I think it's perfect.
That is gorgeous, you could make a business and sell these if you really wanted to! Can’t wait to see your other ideas!
Christ, what an abomination! 😂 utterly brilliant.
I like this
Looking good Trent! Been a while sense I watched you
Oh yeah I totally have a tromboner right now
Holy shit, I haven’t watched your videos in a while and I hardly recognized you because of how much weigh you’ve lost. Congratulations!
Also the instrument is amazing, great work
It's a trumbone a trumpet and a trombone!
should get james morrison to try it
Move aside, Schagerl. There's a far superior model in town now!
“what are you doing” “oh just blowing my superbone”
ok man.
For real though how much would you charge to do something like this if I supplied the instruments
Is it possible to play a chord?
THE NAME😆
Functional comparison between a straight tenor, an f attachment tenor, a two valve bass, and THAT
Would it be possible to place the valve block on the slide? I know that the trombone needs to slide but it would be really cool
Possible? Yes, if it is placed at the go around bit at the end of the slide. This as the slide consists of a tube sliding over an inner tube, which wouldn't be working if it is interrupted by a valve section.
What would be possible is having the valve section placed a little more in the direction of the slides and have that end earlier on the way to the bell. I think that's how other superbones work
Reveiw a plastic tuba I know they've made them
DUDE YOUVE LOST SOME BLOODY WEIGHT!! GOOD FOR YOU! that is so awesome. i see it, i recognize it, and i 👏 for you. your efforts have not gone unnoticed!
would a Super-Bass-Bone make any sense? like with a 4th valve?
Don’t wanna be that guy, but wouldn’t it have been easier to just use the slide with your left hand, (using the trombone mirrored to what you normally would, with the counterweight behind your right shoulder), rather than reorganising all of the tuning slides? Then you’re also using the valves with your right hand which is the more common approach to use for most brass instruments (everything apart from French horns off the top of my head).
Also, instead of rings or hooks for your pinky and thumb, maybe a bar that could join to the valves replicating the tubing you hold on a tuba?
Just a thought, that’s all
YOOOO A EUPHONIUM SHOUT-OUT BECAUSE OF THE ONE IN THE BACK. I feel so accomplished and honored
Off subject but good job on the weight transformation brotha. 💪
Could you please do a video reviewing and giving the backstory of loud mouthpieces(actual company name) they are really unique mouthpieces which play like no other
Hey I love your brown rusty tenor flugelhorn in background! These isntruments are great and missing in UK!
I wonder if...
You could use the Valves as like an F Attatchment.
it’s pizza time
My friends plan on life is to make a Cyber trombone. A trombone that is bassically automated to your skill level tunes to the temperature empty’s spit on its own. And has its own ability tune along with being able to change keys without pressing a button
No offense but I haven’t watched your channel in at least a year and you look like you have lost weigh. If you’re trying to lose weight good job keep up the good work.
@Trent Hamilton
Auction it for charity or something. I’d love to see what it sells for!
I once had a Holton Superbone and my trombone teacher told me it was an abomination. The sound was actually quite stuffy.
Can I have it? I’m a tuba playing looking for something more convenient to play in my back yard and annoy my neighbors.
What is the song played at the end and this is truly amazing
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Is this a "trum-bone" Or a "trom-pet"?