It is not that Buckley was always incorrect, it is that he approved of the primary fallacy of both parties--that government was a "solution" to anything.
By "conservative" do you mean conserving the rights of a free people, or conserving authorities vested in the civil service during the Progressive Era and beyond? Because, logically speaking, adherence to the founding vision is perhaps the most conservative position one can reasonably take in America.
It's a good day for America, but not for Libertarianism. I think this movement has been set back at least a generation. Populism. Nationalism. Statism. Will anyone who grows up admiring Trump ever read much less comprehend Rothbard or Mises or Hayek?
Of coarse they won't. Then they'll have no idea where the failure comes from. Then they can keep blaming everyone and everything else. Then rich pimps can keep selling them the swill this country is addled on.
I thinks it's because of the constrained vision of human nature that conservatives tend to resonate with, makes them distrustful of libertarian views and societies when it comes to law and ethics.
Wow, brilliant. I used to be a Left-wing liberal. My Trotskyite friends converted to neo-con after that I embraced anarchism. I vote on the "right-wing" side of things. I really like your ideas, but they ultra liberal gay trans agenda keeps me from joining libertarian party.
I think there’s two sides to the libertarian party the left leaning side which is tad too obsessed with trans agenda and woke bs but the right leaning side isn’t like that at all mises is better representation of right leaning side so maybe you’d just prefer the right side.
So you're *against* the only redeeming quality of libertarianism? One of the main issues this last election was women's bodily autonomy, which it sounds like libertarianism is for, but you make that sound like it's a bad thing.
@robertridley9279 You're so dumb. Take your strawman fallacy and shove it. Admit to yourself you like forcing children to call obviously male teachers a woman. Admit to yourself how much you love that nake pervert men get to shower with little girls in gyms and schools. It turns you on that companies force employees to call the dude next to them a woman. Convince troubled teen girls to sterilize themselves. Freaking woke wacko
By the way, I have read Pat Buchanan's book, "The Unecessary War," and I find his interpretation of events leading up to World War II very interesting. The Treatsie of Versailles was awful of course, and it played an important part in the tragic scenario that unfolded. Overall, I agree that our military adventures abroad more often lead to bad outcomes for everyone involved.
So in your analysis, you said Rep was big gov from 1860-1929 Then became small from 1933-1950 then big from 1950-2016 then small 2016-now. And the Dem was small from 1860-1898 then big from 1898-now That means, the only presidents we've had since before Lincoln to be from a small gov party were Grover Cleveland and Donald Trump.
@arbendit4348 both are wrong. Government that tries to control everything for everyone is a weak government. Big government does not mean strong government. A strong government is one that exercises full power on a very restricted range of responsibilities.
@stanleyshannon4408 So a Government that can't do almost anything but basic services? That's a weak government, also even a weak government is not the consensus in your ideology as many libertarians want no government at all.
@arbendit4348 I'm not a libertarian. I'm a federalist. Some level of government should be empowered to fulfill essential responsibilities, but no level of government should assume the power to do everything for everyone.
Well, I've always been a big fan of Albert Jay Nock. If discovered him around 22-23 years old in an anthology by William F. Buckley Jr., "Did You Ever See a Walking Dream.". I mistakenly assumed that Buckley agreed with Nock, because he used to also occasionally quote him. Well, they were absolutely right about World War I. We should have left that war to the Europeans to sort out, they were all nearing the end of their capacity to continue fighting. My grandfathers were fighting on the other side, not the German Army but the Austrian Hungarian Army. My family were from Banat, a province north of Belgrade, which was once the frontier of the Empire in the Balkans. They arrived there in the middle of 18th century from the Stuttgart area at the invitation of the Austrian Monarch, who gave them free land. World War II was a different story. Skipping over some essential aspects to the narrative of m parents, they lived in Germany outside of Hanover from 1941 to 1951, when they came to the US. They were listening to the BBC, and despite the fact that my two aunts were surviving casualties of the bombing of Hamburg, my parents were cheering on the advances of the Americans and British and anxiously waiting to be liberated from the Nazis. So, I would say those on the Old Right who opposed entry into World War II were dead wrong. As for the New Deal, eliminating Social Security is nowhere on the radar screen of the vast majority of Americans... I don't think all these issues between old right, Trump and Neoconservatives are in reality so black and white. You can make them black and white in your own head and on paper, but that way of looking at the tensions on the Right is not the way the overwhelming majority of Americans think about these matters. I'm philosophically libertarian, or perhaps more appropriately classical liberal, but I also am pragmatic and I make attempts at Realism.
This is yet another example of the mixing and using of terms, like conservative and right in useless ways. Use of these terms confuse the issues and obfuscate what is currently happening. What is useful is returning to the discussion that were occurring at the founding of our country, the meaning and intent of the constitution. And understanding that despotism was present even then (eg with the differences between Hamilton and Jefferson). The shift today is one of a rejection of despotism, the attacks not only on foreign wars but a declaration of war against the American People. The rise of Trump is no different then the rise of the revolutionaries against the despotism of England.
@@robertridley9279 Oh no. It’s the ghost of Fascism. Trump is not the painter. Trump can get a crowd fired up, but can he truly command a crowd like the painter? I don’t think so.
You guys really need to be more international and stop constantly talking about the US. Is called Austrian economic, not American. What about the economy in china? An objective Austrian perspective would be interesting. What about Europe?
The entire idea is to escape the globalist mindset, that somehow there is some kind of universal political ideology that Americans are obligated to bestow upon humanity. Work things out for yourself and stop annoying us.
100% it's crazy how so many are fooled. I have a video response I made to a trump supporter who would not let me speak after challenging me to come on his show. I show that everything he was calling propaganda, I actually had video and news articles to back it up. Trump promoted boosters in the 2015 Republican primary. I show that. Trump, several times, talked about SPEEDING up vaccines. Trump was involved in creating it on Jan 13 2020, BEFORE the WHO announced it was transmitted person to person (Jan 20).
It is not that Buckley was always incorrect, it is that he approved of the primary fallacy of both parties--that government was a "solution" to anything.
govt / the state is a necessary evil, libertarianism is a deluded day dream / cannot work in reality.
I'm not any kind of libertarian, but this analysis was very good.
The paleolibertarians/Hoppeans are insightful. Austrian economics as science is a useful tool.
By "conservative" do you mean conserving the rights of a free people, or conserving authorities vested in the civil service during the Progressive Era and beyond? Because, logically speaking, adherence to the founding vision is perhaps the most conservative position one can reasonably take in America.
Conserving racism, misogyny, Islamophobia, and homophobia/transphobia
Well stated, sir. Well done. Joe Sobran is looking down from heaven and smiling.
Something else that's not new: libertarians trying to be relevant and failing miserably.
It's a good day for America, but not for Libertarianism. I think this movement has been set back at least a generation. Populism. Nationalism. Statism. Will anyone who grows up admiring Trump ever read much less comprehend Rothbard or Mises or Hayek?
I am a Rothbard and Hayek fan and I love Doanld Trump. Trump is basically a Libertarian now.
Libertarianism needs to go away so that traditional American conservatism can be reestablished.
Of coarse they won't. Then they'll have no idea where the failure comes from. Then they can keep blaming everyone and everything else. Then rich pimps can keep selling them the swill this country is addled on.
I thinks it's because of the constrained vision of human nature that conservatives tend to resonate with, makes them distrustful of libertarian views and societies when it comes to law and ethics.
who cares? libertarainism is bollocks / cant work in reality and will never happen,
Wow, brilliant.
I used to be a Left-wing liberal.
My Trotskyite friends converted to neo-con after that I embraced anarchism.
I vote on the "right-wing" side of things. I really like your ideas, but they ultra liberal gay trans agenda keeps me from joining libertarian party.
I think there’s two sides to the libertarian party the left leaning side which is tad too obsessed with trans agenda and woke bs but the right leaning side isn’t like that at all mises is better representation of right leaning side so maybe you’d just prefer the right side.
Yea..that whole thing is kind of glowy.
libertarians pander to the left too much
So you're *against* the only redeeming quality of libertarianism? One of the main issues this last election was women's bodily autonomy, which it sounds like libertarianism is for, but you make that sound like it's a bad thing.
@robertridley9279
You're so dumb.
Take your strawman fallacy and shove it.
Admit to yourself you like forcing children to call obviously male teachers a woman.
Admit to yourself how much you love that nake pervert men get to shower with little girls in gyms and schools.
It turns you on that companies force employees to call the dude next to them a woman.
Convince troubled teen girls to sterilize themselves.
Freaking woke wacko
Absolutely great video. Thank you for this concise and helpful overview.
By the way, I have read Pat Buchanan's book, "The Unecessary War," and I find his interpretation of events leading up to World War II very interesting. The Treatsie of Versailles was awful of course, and it played an important part in the tragic scenario that unfolded. Overall, I agree that our military adventures abroad more often lead to bad outcomes for everyone involved.
Mises institute......nough said.
So in your analysis, you said Rep was big gov from 1860-1929 Then became small from 1933-1950 then big from 1950-2016 then small 2016-now. And the Dem was small from 1860-1898 then big from 1898-now
That means, the only presidents we've had since before Lincoln to be from a small gov party were Grover Cleveland and Donald Trump.
People are still Libertarian after 2020? Dam
Yes, clearly the lesson to be learned from 2020 is that we need more government
@@thebadger1993weak government has not solved a single problem because it's too weak to do anything in the first place, thus it's inefficient.
@arbendit4348 both are wrong. Government that tries to control everything for everyone is a weak government. Big government does not mean strong government. A strong government is one that exercises full power on a very restricted range of responsibilities.
@stanleyshannon4408 So a Government that can't do almost anything but basic services? That's a weak government, also even a weak government is not the consensus in your ideology as many libertarians want no government at all.
@arbendit4348 I'm not a libertarian. I'm a federalist. Some level of government should be empowered to fulfill essential responsibilities, but no level of government should assume the power to do everything for everyone.
Well, I've always been a big fan of Albert Jay Nock. If discovered him around 22-23 years old in an anthology by William F. Buckley Jr., "Did You Ever See a Walking Dream.". I mistakenly assumed that Buckley agreed with Nock, because he used to also occasionally quote him. Well, they were absolutely right about World War I. We should have left that war to the Europeans to sort out, they were all nearing the end of their capacity to continue fighting. My grandfathers were fighting on the other side, not the German Army but the Austrian Hungarian Army. My family were from Banat, a province north of Belgrade, which was once the frontier of the Empire in the Balkans. They arrived there in the middle of 18th century from the Stuttgart area at the invitation of the Austrian Monarch, who gave them free land. World War II was a different story. Skipping over some essential aspects to the narrative of m parents, they lived in Germany outside of Hanover from 1941 to 1951, when they came to the US. They were listening to the BBC, and despite the fact that my two aunts were surviving casualties of the bombing of Hamburg, my parents were cheering on the advances of the Americans and British and anxiously waiting to be liberated from the Nazis. So, I would say those on the Old Right who opposed entry into World War II were dead wrong. As for the New Deal, eliminating Social Security is nowhere on the radar screen of the vast majority of Americans... I don't think all these issues between old right, Trump and Neoconservatives are in reality so black and white. You can make them black and white in your own head and on paper, but that way of looking at the tensions on the Right is not the way the overwhelming majority of Americans think about these matters. I'm philosophically libertarian, or perhaps more appropriately classical liberal, but I also am pragmatic and I make attempts at Realism.
This is yet another example of the mixing and using of terms, like conservative and right in useless ways.
Use of these terms confuse the issues and obfuscate what is currently happening.
What is useful is returning to the discussion that were occurring at the founding of our country, the meaning and intent of the constitution. And understanding that despotism was present even then (eg with the differences between Hamilton and Jefferson).
The shift today is one of a rejection of despotism, the attacks not only on foreign wars but a declaration of war against the American People.
The rise of Trump is no different then the rise of the revolutionaries against the despotism of England.
Actually the rise of trump is similar to the rise of, Franco, Mussolini, and you-know-who from Germany.
@@robertridley9279 Oh no. It’s the ghost of Fascism. Trump is not the painter. Trump can get a crowd fired up, but can he truly command a crowd like the painter? I don’t think so.
You guys really need to be more international and stop constantly talking about the US. Is called Austrian economic, not American.
What about the economy in china? An objective Austrian perspective would be interesting. What about Europe?
The entire idea is to escape the globalist mindset, that somehow there is some kind of universal political ideology that Americans are obligated to bestow upon humanity. Work things out for yourself and stop annoying us.
Because it's a very America-centric world view. It has never been popular outside of the US because no one takes its naive assumptions seriously.
Ginger 😡 AF.
Don't get your hopes too high up, lol...
👏
The battle on the right is between covert racists and overt racists
RACISM! RACISM! Just give it a rest already.
Cry me a river.
Trojan horse Trump
It’s a possibility.
100% it's crazy how so many are fooled.
I have a video response I made to a trump supporter who would not let me speak after challenging me to come on his show. I show that everything he was calling propaganda, I actually had video and news articles to back it up.
Trump promoted boosters in the 2015 Republican primary. I show that.
Trump, several times, talked about SPEEDING up vaccines.
Trump was involved in creating it on Jan 13 2020, BEFORE the WHO announced it was transmitted person to person (Jan 20).
You’re a FED
@@donaldlawson9799 no, he is 100% right. I have clips on my cannel to prove it. I'm intentionally misspelling or my comment won't post
People voted trump because he validated their racism, but they're going to end up getting screwed by him too, not just black people.
greg kaza needs to learn to write.