i don’t understand how we are always underrated going into every season. Yes, we haven’t been a real contender for a while, but it feels like every year people think we’re gonna be a bottom feeder and we end up .500 or better
Once again I will say that Miko Florio has practically nothing to offer when he is talking about the actual game of football. He is in the media to cover the business side of the sport.
Yup. His takes on legal issues are interesting cause you can tell they come from an informed place. When it comes to football....well yeah this is what you get.
I'll listen to Florio for a laugh because I find him entertaining. Preseason power rankings are like NFL draft predictions, wildly inaccurate when they include all the teams.
Let people underrate us , we'll show a marked improvement from the last few years , I really feel that way. Another couple of decent drafts and we'll be right up there again. Ay up from soggy Staffordshire. Go Seahawks 💪
I really think it's just a matter of the majority of national media being lazy and not taking the time to actually study teams, other than the handful who get ALL the attention. They just put us in the "new coaching staff growing pains" box and that's the extent of their "analysis".
Agreed. Florio strikes me as the guy who's uncle is an NBC executive, and they couldn't figure out what to do with him after he put in his time in the mail room
I hope they keep it coming! These rankings are only going to alleviate national pressure on us and make us look all the better when we inevitably outperform them!
I feel like I'm the only Seahawks fan who doesn't think 22 is a crazy ranking this year. Everyone else in the fanbase seems to think this team is making a playoff run, but I've got the team going 8-9 this year. Hope ya'll are right!
Most Seahawks fans love Geno’s story so they can’t see his many flaws. The Seahawks will have 6 or 7 wins this year. I’ll be shocked if they get to 9. We have a good receiver/ rb group. Every other group is below average. Some groups WAY below average (o line, linebacker, safety).
I am somewhere between Florio and Rob on this one. The Seahawks mostly have rookie coaches so who knows how that plays out this year. The betting Win Total for the Seahawks is 7.5 everywhere, which indicates that many expect the Seahawks to be a bottom half of the NFL Team. Seahawks look to have a much improved defense. Their Wide Receiver group considered one of the best in the NFL. The Offensive line is probably going to be horendous. Geno is one year older and cannot be expected to have a better season than last year. If the NFL is a Quarterback driven league, then the Seahawks should be considered average.
That list is wild.... but being only one spot above the Broncos is wild..... actually I think that list was made almost 90% from the NFL win total futures chart list now that I actually look at both. NFL win total futures has Seattle at 7.5.... and the Falcons at 9.5.......are the hawks going to have more wins than the Falcons...yes. Bears at 13 is wild..... all they did is draft a QB and WR. Cowboys that low and Eagles low for their schedule.... so lots of ???? and yes power rankings this early is subjective. But yep the guy is projecting a 6 or 7 win season if he ranks at 22....possible yep.
I bet 2 teams in to win the conferences plus all team win over/under plus all division winners. My largest bet (3 times my normal) was on packers over 9.5 wins. I also have packers winning the north and my two teams to win the nfc are 49ers and packers. Green Bay is a SB contender and a top tier team. They have a ton of young talent. We’ll see if Love is real this year. If he is….well at least the Lions got to win the division once this decade.
Magic Mike is focused on restoring this team’s glory 🎉 and I can’t wait to see us outperform expectations. It’s happening. We have excellent talent and coaching. Discipline, determined, dominant & accountable. Oh yeah mates. Bring it on BRUV 💙💚
This is what wrong with US sports, they put so much emphasis on rankings, stats etc when in reality it comes down to the actual dam play/matches which will be the true determining factor. That said, Seattle ain’t 22nd, Florio talking 💩 again.
This is typical and has been for decades. Seattle is always overlooked because most sports writers live and work on the east coast. Seattle barely register on their radar. Also historically they preform best when they are being overlooked and underrated. I think it helps motivate the team. So whenever I see this in power rankings it actually makes me happy and excited knowing its probably going to be a great season.
Jets haven’t seen January football in 13 years but east coast media keep grabbing their ankles for them year after year. Skyline HS or Bellevue HS could beat the Jets
As a jets season ticket holder I’ll just say it’s obvious you’ve never watched a jets game. From Seattle originally so I root for both teams. The jets are WAY better than the Seahawks.
Have the seahawks ever got any recognition from the mainstream media?? I get the impression we got forgotten about, and they just think 'oh stick them in there'
Good point. Even in the AFC West days they would always print our division at the bottom of the box scores. Now they print the NFC West at the bottom of the box scores. Also, S is at the end of the alphabet.
These guys, I'd say, are underestimating Grub and Macdonald and the ability of the whole coaching staff overall that's not even taking into consideration our players are better and more seasoned this year but honestly I like being the underdog gives us something more to rally around like early Carroll years
People don't seem to get that the Seahawks have talent up and down the line-up. I would have them in the top 20 based on the receivers and running backs alone.
So many are sleeping on this year's hawk team. I'm in the strange position of not knowing whether my expectations for this team are a well considered outcome and I'm right to think they're going to be really good or am I affected by homerism? I know I would make a lot of bets on them succeeding above Vegas's expectations.
I think if this "power ranking" is valuable at all, it should be viewed as how the media sees the Seahawks. I am sure if you had someone in the league do this power ranking it would look much different. Also Geno had a pressure rate of 43% and Waldron calling the plays. This year will be so different that I kinda wish we would extend Geno's contract. I Predict 30 touchdowns with 12 picks. For 10 million a year less than a comparable QB. Hawks will make the playoffs and win one game!
Some of the media hacks are sleeping on the Seahawks, but you can bet your ass other teams coaching staffs are not. The talent on this team that has apparently bought into Mike Mac's way will make themselves known.
Love it Rob but unfortunately if you follow any main stream media or main podcasts the Seahawks are overlooked by everyone, do you listen to ‘Heed the call’??? They had the cardinals and rams getting into the play offs over the Seahawks!
I tend to agree. But, maybe Florio is looking at the league in different way than you are. Let's try this. 1. Mahomes 2. Goff 3. Love 4. Purdy 5. Lamar 6. Hurts 7. Burrow 8. Allen 9. Baker 10. Stroud 11. Tua 12. Watson 13. Caleb 14. Aaron Rogers 15. Russell Wilson 16. Cousins/Penix 17. Stafford 18. Herbert 19. Dak 20. Lawrence 21. Richardson What do all of these QBs have in common? They're all better than 2023 Geno. That's it. It's a quarterback driven list, because defenses and coaches don't win championships anymore. Elite QBs do. I'd put the Seahawks around 14-20 myself, but if you go strictly by QB play, this list is about right. That's the explanation.
Like the disrespect on the hawks nationally this off-season feels like almost an all-time high. The biggest thing for me in all these "insider" power rankings, is the fact they are drinking the Jets Green Kool-Aid SO HARD. You're gonna try to convenience the nation a 40 yr old qb that basically has 1 foot out the door, and the other with a recovering acl makes them a top 15 and for some a TEN ranked team?! We have the same core on Offense, brought in some good key pieces to stabilize the D along with new coordinators & team philosophy that wont makes us soo stagnant and predictable that unfortunately happen in the latter part of the last regime.
But Seattle is only 1 place better than the Broncos. Our roster is much better. Chargers are not a good team. These rankings are trash. They only got one correct, Panthers are last.
Bears are grossly overvalued by everyone in the media imo. Browns? Helluva roster but what about the QB? Stealers? Florio is a known stealer homer (and Viking homer) Colts? Spot on Rob. A guy at QB that's played 4 games and a meh roster.
What bothers me is that there is no objective analysis you can point to that would justify it and that reflects poorly on PFT. Anyone who does any research on the state of the Seahawks would know that our weakpoints were all addressed and improved and we upgraded at coaching staff and have an easier schedule than last year. So what evidence is there to support that we are worse than last year. No way that the Bears, Jets and Falcons are better by any measure other than subjective "feels". Like I said though, I don't mind the bias, but this makes me trust PFT even less.
I bet the under 7.5 and feel pretty confident about it. 20-25 in power rankings is fine, maybe a bit high. I watch at least 10 NFL games per week so I know all 32 teams well. Seahawks are definitely bottom 3rd. Why? QB and O line are bad. I know the Seahawks fans love Geno. But he’s…bad. Watch Geno without your fan blinders on and it’s obvious. We got 3 good receivers and a good running back. A good qb would have stats in the top 5 with our weapons. Geno doesn’t. Seriously: DK, JSN, Locket and K9 are better than any other NFL teams guys. Look at some rosters. Yet Geno can’t consistently get us to 24 points. That would be easy for middle guys like cousins or Lawrence. But Geno can’t take advantage of our weapons. Because Geno is bad.
Yes, Aiyuk, Kittle, Deebo, and CMC are as good as the Seahawks. The niners go to the superbowl each year with their weapons while we finish 9-8. Thanks for proving my point.
Love your passion Rob - exposing the Hawk issues and defending when appropriate. Can’t wait to see if the Hawks fulfill their potential this season.
Well said. Looks like bulletin board material for the #Seahawks locker room.
i don’t understand how we are always underrated going into every season. Yes, we haven’t been a real contender for a while, but it feels like every year people think we’re gonna be a bottom feeder and we end up .500 or better
I think the Seahawks should be in the 12-18 range. Seeing teams like the Bears and Buccaneers in their places is LAUGHABLE
Craziest part of the list is Packers at 3
Outstanding Rob!!!!🙂
Damn, this is gettin' me worked up, Rob!
Outstanding Rob
Once again I will say that Miko Florio has practically nothing to offer when he is talking about the actual game of football. He is in the media to cover the business side of the sport.
Yup. His takes on legal issues are interesting cause you can tell they come from an informed place. When it comes to football....well yeah this is what you get.
I'll listen to Florio for a laugh because I find him entertaining. Preseason power rankings are like NFL draft predictions, wildly inaccurate when they include all the teams.
Bears at 13??? ROFL 🤣
Let people underrate us , we'll show a marked improvement from the last few years , I really feel that way. Another couple of decent drafts and we'll be right up there again. Ay up from soggy Staffordshire. Go Seahawks 💪
I really think it's just a matter of the majority of national media being lazy and not taking the time to actually study teams, other than the handful who get ALL the attention. They just put us in the "new coaching staff growing pains" box and that's the extent of their "analysis".
You are so right! My daughter and I were saying many of the things you are!
Agreed. Florio strikes me as the guy who's uncle is an NBC executive, and they couldn't figure out what to do with him after he put in his time in the mail room
I know this is a joke but NBC licenses his content. PFT is technically his own independent brand.
@@11234cheeseman at any rate he sucks and he offers zero insight I couldn't hear at a pee wee game.
I like flying under the radar. Nobody sees you coming...
I like the media underrating the Seahawks. Fuel for the fire.
I hope they keep it coming! These rankings are only going to alleviate national pressure on us and make us look all the better when we inevitably outperform them!
I feel like I'm the only Seahawks fan who doesn't think 22 is a crazy ranking this year. Everyone else in the fanbase seems to think this team is making a playoff run, but I've got the team going 8-9 this year. Hope ya'll are right!
Most Seahawks fans love Geno’s story so they can’t see his many flaws.
The Seahawks will have 6 or 7 wins this year. I’ll be shocked if they get to 9. We have a good receiver/ rb group. Every other group is below average. Some groups WAY below average (o line, linebacker, safety).
Saw this and felt the same way. Maybe it helps to ensure we get out of the gate strong this year, unlike last season?
Go Hawks!
I am somewhere between Florio and Rob on this one. The Seahawks mostly have rookie coaches so who knows how that plays out this year. The betting Win Total for the Seahawks is 7.5 everywhere, which indicates that many expect the Seahawks to be a bottom half of the NFL Team.
Seahawks look to have a much improved defense. Their Wide Receiver group considered one of the best in the NFL.
The Offensive line is probably going to be horendous. Geno is one year older and cannot be expected to have a better season than last year. If the NFL is a Quarterback driven league, then the Seahawks should be considered average.
Thanks Rob
On good morning football two of the host predicted the hawks to be in the playoffs
These rankings are laughably bad 😂
Wild who they put in the top 16. I hope they did it for engagement rather than actually think that way.
That list is wild.... but being only one spot above the Broncos is wild..... actually I think that list was made almost 90% from the NFL win total futures chart list now that I actually look at both.
NFL win total futures has Seattle at 7.5.... and the Falcons at 9.5.......are the hawks going to have more wins than the Falcons...yes.
Bears at 13 is wild..... all they did is draft a QB and WR.
Cowboys that low and Eagles low for their schedule.... so lots of ???? and yes power rankings this early is subjective.
But yep the guy is projecting a 6 or 7 win season if he ranks at 22....possible yep.
GB third is wild
I bet 2 teams in to win the conferences plus all team win over/under plus all division winners.
My largest bet (3 times my normal) was on packers over 9.5 wins. I also have packers winning the north and my two teams to win the nfc are 49ers and packers.
Green Bay is a SB contender and a top tier team. They have a ton of young talent. We’ll see if Love is real this year. If he is….well at least the Lions got to win the division once this decade.
@@jasonandkathleenbarker6306 thank you for sharing your thoughts
The Steelers better than us?! Lmao
Magic Mike is focused on restoring this team’s glory 🎉 and I can’t wait to see us outperform expectations. It’s happening. We have excellent talent and coaching. Discipline, determined, dominant & accountable. Oh yeah mates. Bring it on BRUV 💙💚
This is what wrong with US sports, they put so much emphasis on rankings, stats etc when in reality it comes down to the actual dam play/matches which will be the true determining factor. That said, Seattle ain’t 22nd, Florio talking 💩 again.
its ok they'll know when we finish 11-6
This is typical and has been for decades. Seattle is always overlooked because most sports writers live and work on the east coast. Seattle barely register on their radar. Also historically they preform best when they are being overlooked and underrated. I think it helps motivate the team. So whenever I see this in power rankings it actually makes me happy and excited knowing its probably going to be a great season.
Jets haven’t seen January football in 13 years but east coast media keep grabbing their ankles for them year after year. Skyline HS or Bellevue HS could beat the Jets
As a jets season ticket holder I’ll just say it’s obvious you’ve never watched a jets game.
From Seattle originally so I root for both teams. The jets are WAY better than the Seahawks.
Have the seahawks ever got any recognition from the mainstream media?? I get the impression we got forgotten about, and they just think 'oh stick them in there'
South Alaska Seahawks
There have been a few talking heads and analysts picking us as their team to watch or dark horse team. Only a few though.
@daltonv5206 I see Peter Schrager gave us some credit, but these are very few and far between. Used to annoy me, but come to expect it now.
Good point. Even in the AFC West days they would always print our division at the bottom of the box scores. Now they print the NFC West at the bottom of the box scores. Also, S is at the end of the alphabet.
@@graemekay4816peter picked mike mcdonald as his pick for coach of the year
I love being underrated
These guys, I'd say, are underestimating Grub and Macdonald and the ability of the whole coaching staff overall that's not even taking into consideration our players are better and more seasoned this year but honestly I like being the underdog gives us something more to rally around like early Carroll years
The Seattle Seahawks have always been looked down upon!!
People don't seem to get that the Seahawks have talent up and down the line-up. I would have them in the top 20 based on the receivers and running backs alone.
🎉🎉
So many are sleeping on this year's hawk team. I'm in the strange position of not knowing whether my expectations for this team are a well considered outcome and I'm right to think they're going to be really good or am I affected by homerism?
I know I would make a lot of bets on them succeeding above Vegas's expectations.
I bet it's because he's not a Geno fan combined with the rookie coach thing
I think if this "power ranking" is valuable at all, it should be viewed as how the media sees the Seahawks. I am sure if you had someone in the league do this power ranking it would look much different. Also Geno had a pressure rate of 43% and Waldron calling the plays. This year will be so different that I kinda wish we would extend Geno's contract. I Predict 30 touchdowns with 12 picks. For 10 million a year less than a comparable QB. Hawks will make the playoffs and win one game!
The source is Florio. Nuff said.
nice
Makes you wonder why some people get the big bucks.
Some of the media hacks are sleeping on the Seahawks, but you can bet your ass other teams coaching staffs are not. The talent on this team that has apparently bought into Mike Mac's way will make themselves known.
Love it Rob but unfortunately if you follow any main stream media or main podcasts the Seahawks are overlooked by everyone, do you listen to ‘Heed the call’??? They had the cardinals and rams getting into the play offs over the Seahawks!
I tend to agree. But, maybe Florio is looking at the league in different way than you are. Let's try this.
1. Mahomes
2. Goff
3. Love
4. Purdy
5. Lamar
6. Hurts
7. Burrow
8. Allen
9. Baker
10. Stroud
11. Tua
12. Watson
13. Caleb
14. Aaron Rogers
15. Russell Wilson
16. Cousins/Penix
17. Stafford
18. Herbert
19. Dak
20. Lawrence
21. Richardson
What do all of these QBs have in common? They're all better than 2023 Geno.
That's it. It's a quarterback driven list, because defenses and coaches don't win championships anymore. Elite QBs do.
I'd put the Seahawks around 14-20 myself, but if you go strictly by QB play, this list is about right.
That's the explanation.
You know, you do get to a point where people understand your view on something Mike. We get your thoughts on the QB position. It can get a bit much.
Like the disrespect on the hawks nationally this off-season feels like almost an all-time high. The biggest thing for me in all these "insider" power rankings, is the fact they are drinking the Jets Green Kool-Aid SO HARD. You're gonna try to convenience the nation a 40 yr old qb that basically has 1 foot out the door, and the other with a recovering acl makes them a top 15 and for some a TEN ranked team?! We have the same core on Offense, brought in some good key pieces to stabilize the D along with new coordinators & team philosophy that wont makes us soo stagnant and predictable that unfortunately happen in the latter part of the last regime.
Sorry tried to edit I meant disrespecting not disgusting.
But Seattle is only 1 place better than the Broncos. Our roster is much better. Chargers are not a good team. These rankings are trash. They only got one correct, Panthers are last.
I'm triggered
Cowboys rated pretty low too
Why are the chargers ranked ahead of the Seahawks?
Florio and Simms are NOTORIOUS Seahawks haters.
They aren't, even if this power ranking feels quite a way off reality
Florio is a tool. No one should take anything he says with any seriousness.
Imo Seahawks easily finish better than 9-8
I'm fine with everyone doubting us, just going to suck for the rest of the NFL when we FLY over that radar!
Bears are grossly overvalued by everyone in the media imo.
Browns? Helluva roster but what about the QB?
Stealers? Florio is a known stealer homer (and Viking homer)
Colts? Spot on Rob. A guy at QB that's played 4 games and a meh roster.
Let them sleep on us I guess.
Sweet
What bothers me is that there is no objective analysis you can point to that would justify it and that reflects poorly on PFT. Anyone who does any research on the state of the Seahawks would know that our weakpoints were all addressed and improved and we upgraded at coaching staff and have an easier schedule than last year. So what evidence is there to support that we are worse than last year. No way that the Bears, Jets and Falcons are better by any measure other than subjective "feels". Like I said though, I don't mind the bias, but this makes me trust PFT even less.
Exhibit # 27,451 of why Mike Florio is an overrated analyst.
I bet the under 7.5 and feel pretty confident about it. 20-25 in power rankings is fine, maybe a bit high. I watch at least 10 NFL games per week so I know all 32 teams well. Seahawks are definitely bottom 3rd.
Why? QB and O line are bad. I know the Seahawks fans love Geno. But he’s…bad.
Watch Geno without your fan blinders on and it’s obvious. We got 3 good receivers and a good running back. A good qb would have stats in the top 5 with our weapons. Geno doesn’t.
Seriously: DK, JSN, Locket and K9 are better than any other NFL teams guys. Look at some rosters. Yet Geno can’t consistently get us to 24 points. That would be easy for middle guys like cousins or Lawrence. But Geno can’t take advantage of our weapons.
Because Geno is bad.
Yes, Aiyuk, Kittle, Deebo, and CMC are as good as the Seahawks.
The niners go to the superbowl each year with their weapons while we finish 9-8. Thanks for proving my point.
Hope you don't lose too much on that bet
@@robstatonfootball $10
PFT is so so bad
WTF let’s show them they are totally wrong!